UK prison: No to crucifixes; Yes to Muslim footbaths

An imam advised the prison chaplain that a "toned-down" wooden cross would be less offensive to Muslim prisoners. "Prison chapel not to have a crucifix," by Tom Whitehead for the Telegraph, December 15:

A new prison chapel has been stopped from having a crucifix in case it offends Muslims.

The multi-faith room at HMP Lewes will have footbaths installed so Muslim inmates can wash their feet before prayers.

For Christians, however, there will now only be a plain wooden cross and a portable altar which can be removed if other faiths are using the room.

The new £200,000 development at the East Sussex jail has been designed as a multi-faith room with the space split into two.

One side is dedicated to Christian worship and the other is for other faiths in the 485 inmate category B jail.

But a spokeswoman from the Independent Monitoring Board (IMB) revealed the traditional Christian crucifix depicting Jesus nailed to the cross will not be used.

After discussions between the prison chaplain and Muslim imam it was agreed a toned-down wooden cross would be used instead of a crucifix.

Zsa Roggendorff, chair of the nearby Ford HMP IMB, could not understand why the crucifix has been taken out of the chapel.

She said: "At Ford we have a multi-faith chapel and all are prisoners are allowed to use it.

"We still have our cross and we have the altar. All the other faiths have got their own special rooms in huts to use which are part of the main prison."

A portable alter will also be used at HMP Lewes so it can be removed when it is not needed while footbaths have been installed so Muslim inmates can wash their feet before prayers.

Amanda Hamblin, chair of the Lewes IMB, said: "We see this as a vastly improved facility and very much welcome the fact that the prison has an imam...

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They allowed a cross? I'm surprised. That's definetly progress.

/sarcasm off

Just goes to show that the UK's screwed. Don't say we didnt tell you so, old chaps.

quick! someone call the Interfaith Council for advice...

By the way...

Vote Paul McCartney for Anti Dhimmi Internationale!!!!

Cue sarcasm.......The UK should cut to the chase and surrender its sovereignty. The country should adopt Sharia law and become an Islamic nation. After all, democratic institutions are offensive to Muslims.

I weep for the United Kingdom. It is truly said to see it 'toning-down' what made it great.

I'm glad Winston Churchill is resting in peace because if he were alive, he'd be speechless at what his own country is doing to destroy itself at a horrific pace.

There is a special place in hell reserved for the despicable quislings who are so shamelessly surrendering the Christian heritage of the western world to a pack of disgusting, unintelligent savages. Roast, traitors!

Well it's not like we don't have it here in America.

At VA Medical centers, you can't leave a Bible on the altar in the chapel, lest it 'offend' someone. If you want to read it, you have to find a chaplain to go get you one.

"A portable alter will also be used at HMP Lewes so it can be removed when it is not needed while footbaths have been installed so Muslim inmates can wash their feet before prayers."
-- from the article above


Errata Sheet:

Alter that "alter" to "altar."

Are we sure those are footbaths? Might they not be urinals?

note: having a crucifix hanging on a wall is too much "in your face religion" for the diversity specialists.

note: having a crucifix hanging on a wall evokes, not only anger from the mosque (because they've learned to BE angry), but also indicates the depths of their fear that their truth is NOT.

note: the multiculturalist celebrates their success at ushering cultural utopia, where all kinds of culture groups live in harmony,like in a prison. these intellects are thinking nothing about the imperialist tendencies inherent in full practice of Tawhid and Sharia.

Muslim footbaths

I have heard and I do stress this is only 10th hand gossip, that if footbaths are not provided our muslim citizens use the handbasins. As these are not designed to have the weight of a foot/leg in them they are frequently broken. Hence the rush to provide footbaths everywhere muslims go.

Seems to me a simple metal pan should do.
Fill the pan from a hose bib and set it on the floor where everyone ha been pissing

The big problem is that prisons have been converted into hotels with privileged guests.

It all started several years ago when someone left the door open, no prisoners escaped, but lawyers and social workers wandered in.
The end results of that so far is foot baths and prayer rooms. But never fear, these 'guests' will have further demands of the management, and those same lawyers and social workers will back them up.

Solution...Get rid of those social engineers and make them take their tennis courts, swimming pools, and bingo games with them...

A prison without a tennis court is...lets face it, a prison...

I offer to donate the "plainest" Buddha and Shiva statues I can find. Also, a nice, plain pentagram for the flooring.

How 'bout a nice toned down statue of Charles Manson or Anton LeVey to compliment the pentagram?

Just say that they hated Jews and the Muslims'll be just fine.