A charity as a front group for jihadist activity: Funny how that keeps happening.
"UN says Pakistan charity front for terrorist group," by John Heilprin for the Associated Press, December 10:
UNITED NATIONS – A U.N. Security Council panel has declared a Pakistan-based charity a front group for the terrorist organization blamed in the attacks on Mumbai that killed 171 people.
In a move sought by India and the U.S., the panel said the charity Jamaat-ud-Dawa was a front for the Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and subject to U.N. sanctions on terrorist organizations. It also designated four suspected plotters of the Mumbai attack as terrorists subject to sanctions.
They include Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Lashkar's operations chief, whose arrest was announced Wednesday. The others are Muhammad Saeed, the group's leader; Haji Muhammad Ashraf, its chief of finance; and Mahmoud Mohammad Ahmed Bahaziq, a financier with the group.
Looks like we just established another definition to add to those already recorded in the Islamic Dictionary for Infidels.
Charity = money for jihad.
By the way: for those who visit this site who do not normally read at Frontpage as well, I do recommend that you check out a little article there, by one Henry Kadoch, entitled 'Islam-Speak'.
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CB861004-4459-4E25-932B-6029CBC8BA9D
Anybody notice Bush allies in 'war-on-terror' (front for Iraq war) are terrorists themselves. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan gave birth to Al-Qaeda and Taliban. So, what was Bush thinking? Or was he merey paying back his Wahhabbi masters for funding his and his daddy's business ventures? Also, how much of the aid to 'ally' Pakistan, went into terror attacks on India? Will Congress / Condi stop the jizya / aid to the 'charity fronts' of terror? Or are they too dumb/yellow to stop the thick flow of jihad-finance, lest the Arab street / OAU and other thugs turn on USA?
Also, will Congress investigate Bush lies into the failed Iraq war, which he started as 'war-on-terror'?
Oh oh, white house stinks of aiding terrorists Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (Wafa Sultan noticed this: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52962 )
.. but what could Bush's do but repay their terrorist friends and family in Al-Riyadh. for the petro-dollars in Carlile Group, Arbusto and Harken energy? Ofcourse, congress did not see any conflict-of-interest in the Bandar-Bush 'family & friends' ( http://mattwelch.com/NatPostSave/bandar.htm ) program.
Cosmetic. Name change, and back to jihad as usual.
With Islamic finance and the obligatory zakat we will end up financing the global jihad and thereby our own demise...
Dear Robert,
As you already know, Pakistan has refused to hand over the 20 terrorists that India has demanded. These individuals are only the leaders and “master”-minds of their respective terror organizations, each having carried out massive terror attacks on Indian soil, and each employing possibly hundreds of “mujahideen.” India has demanded to the UNSC that Jamaat ud Dawa, the front for Lashkar e Taiba, be banned internationally. These measures are fine, but as we all know they will remain ineffective, as once the hype is over, the same people will sprout again under another name, and will then freely roam Pakistani streets. The world needs no further proof that attacks such as Mumbai may not be directly backed by the Government of Pakistan, however ISI which can be considered a “non-state” actor in fact controls and runs the country. The trigger was pressed by the Pak U.N. ambassador recently speaking at a special session on terrorism at the Security Council, when he began by saying he was “deeply troubled” by what had happened in Mumbai. “The best outcome of the tragedy,” he said a few seconds later, “would be the resolution of the issue of Kashmir.”
While in India, in the last 4 years since the Congress has come to power, India has been victim to no more and no less than 28 terror attacks. This party is a slave to Muslims and has done absolutely nothing to curb the root cause of these attacks, which always always, always, and without any exception, leads to Pakistani terror outfits. We have so many infiltered Pakistanis now living in Kashmir, that wht they term “freedom struggle” is indeed cross border, and now “on-Indian-soil” terrorism. The Kashmiri Pundits, the true inhabitants of the Kashmir Valley for 5,000 years have been ethnically cleansed by infiltered Pakistani terrorists - as recently as 1990, when mosque loudspeakers screamed for them to go away, leave forever, or face being butchered. The Muslims again did what they do best.
This has resulted in the tragic, pathetic situation of Kashmir today, as it is filled with Pakistanis and their sympathisers, who have since, illegally occupied much of the Kashmir valley. They are pro-Pak and anti-India, and do not allow the passing or ratification of any measures that allow for the rehabilitation of Kashmiri Hindus back to their 5,000 year old homeland. Even when the government has made half-assed efforts to rehabilitate, ie. have the Pundits return to their homes, there have been mass killings by Pak-terrorists and each time several dozens of Pundits have died in the violence (Please read http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/kpsgill/2003/chapter9.htm ">thisarticle - the rest of the website is also very informative about Pak sponsored terrorism). The non-violent nature of the Pundits has meant that they have left without retaliation, and now live in sorry refuge camps in Jammu, and some have moved to Delhi, and other countries. The Indian government during this Ethnic Cleansing of Infidels by followers of the Islamic faith has remained quiet, and so the world has not heard about this story. Other cases of ethnic cleansing in the world, on smaller levels, have received much media coverage, but this remains a marginal and undiscussed issue. (I wonder if Obama’s administration is aware of this).
On the other hand, the Congress Party, currently in power, as I mentioned in another thread, is impotent to take measures against Islamic violence, such as in Kashmir. The reason is their vote-bank is majority Muslim. If they take one step in the right direction, and the entire Muslim mob will be out on the streets to protest.
However, the Islamic problem, which in itself is grave, is not India’s gravest problem. India’s gravest problem is a substantially large pool of self-proclaimed “intellectuals” (majority of whom are Hindu), who draw their inspiration from Nehru’s left-leaning style of pseudo-secular governing. They intend to foster a pseudo-democratic environment that has been manufactured and sustained by members of a school of thought that owes its allegiance to the Nehru-Gandhi family. We all know Nehru’s inspiration came from Leninist and Marxist (communist) ideology. During his time, the favourite past-time of people became Hindu-bashing. Nehru's faith in Soviet-style plans placed inexperienced bureaucrats to run industries, usually leading to inefficiency and incompetence. Curbs on the private sector restrained business, redirected entrepreneurial energy to the wrong areas and bred corruption. (It wouldn’t be going too far to say that corruption, which is the prime cancer of Indian politics, can be traced back to this Communist-style management that Nehru brought in).
Non-Indians may be wondering, what is pseudo-secularism? This I believe is an exclusively Indian concept. After white-washing textbooks of heinous Islamic crimes for over a hundred years now, and instead painting a picture of amiable existence between Hindus and Muslims in their 500 year history together, these pseudo-seculars pretend that Islamic is a peaceful religion, and that it is Hindus and others who speak up against Islam and its violent ideology, who are intolerant. They have gone so far as to label people like me (the great majority of Indians) all things from Hindu Nationalist (which is a term I am proud to accept), to “Hindu-Fascists,” “Hindu-Extremists” and lately we’ve heard the terrorists themselves referring to us as “Hindu Zionists.”
This is an extremely dangerous trend, because it is practically considered a crime to speak up against Islam and its black track record. I don’t know if India is going to launch an offensive attack against Pakistani terror camps or not, but what I do know that in May of 2009 we are going to throw the Congress out, and bring in the BJP (the Hindu Nationalist Party) who will take necessary measures. At that time, I hope that countries who are terrorist targets should all come together, and take the following measures:
1. Firstly, Pakistan should be declared a terrorist, law-less nation. There is little scope for doubt in this matter, the civilian government led by Zardari has no power whatsoever. Even if they did, they cannot take concrete and effective measures against terrorists, as being a Muslim state, these terrorists were only fighting their jihad, legal according to the Shari’a and therefore will soon be seen walking around Karachi and Lahore, absolutely scott-free. This ofcourse, is unacceptable to countries like India, the US, Israel, the UK, and other liberal democracies that are their prime targets.
2. Launch an offensive attack on Pakistan, surrounding it from all sides, so that terrorists cannot escape anywhere. All sea ports and routes should be blocked (the US army supplies can easily pass through Indian ports, instead of depending on Karachi – it may take longer to reach Afghanistan, but the point is to completely cut off any dependence on it). The countries to launch this land, sea and air attack would be those primarily affected by Pakistani terrorism, namely India and the other countries I mentioned above. Whether this happens sooner, or later, the important thing is to carry out this attack correctly and effectively. All the main terrorists of the world will thus be blocked, as 99% of them operate out of this country. They should be treated in the same way as Saddam Hussein, ie. given a chance to accept their guilt, and then executed.
3. Pakistan is and always has been a failed state. When the ideology for the birth of a nation is hatred (in this case for India), then that country cannot survive, and certainly not prosper for too long. After the invasion, Pakistan will be unable to function as an independent nation state and should then be dissolved (its backbone, the ISI will be eliminated and most of its members would not exist). There will arise the region of Baluchistan which should become independent, as they have never shared in the extremist Sunni philosophy of the Pakis anyway. This is the region where Sufism was born, and are known to be followers of the mystic credence of Islam, not engaging in violence (except for the BLA, although its goal as militants is the liberation of Baluchistan from Pakistan, and the establishment of a sovereign Balouch state). The Federally Administrated Tribal Areas (FATS) should go to Afghanistan (however, they should not remain “federally administered” instead they should have strict Afghan and Allied force armies overseeing the establishment of this region into a full-fledged area of Afghanistan. The regions of Sindh, Punjab, and Pakistani Occupied Kashmir or PoK - historically Hindu/Sikh regions for over a 5,000 year history, forming the Indus Valley Civilization, the birthplace of Vedic Culture - along with other in-between areas, should be absorbed by India. Those Pakistanis living in Kashmir in houses left behind in the Ethnic Cleansing of the Kashmiri Pundits, should then be asked to return to where they came from (whether that happens to be the present Pakistani Punjab, or other tribal regions currently in Pakistan). Unless these people agree to vacate houses they have illegally occupied, and then build their own housing in allotted regions and agree to live in peace with the natural inhabitants of Kashmir, they should me made to return to where they have come from (they can’t say they have no where to go, as they occupied Kashmir in 1990).
Once these three steps are in place, we will have achieved a very significant portion in our fight against extremist Islamic terror. These three main steps should be complemented by close observation of mosques (it would be better to shut down currently operating madrassas), and all funding arriving from Saudi Arabia, and other international Islamic organizations to mosques and Islamic centers be carefully monitored (atleast in India) to ensure that sympathisers for the cause of Jihad do not prosper. Children should only be allowed to have religious teaching, if it is complementary to their normal school curriculum, ie. Islamic teaching should not become exclusive.
I am aware the US has its own fight against the Jihad ideology, some of it already on American soil. My humble point of view is merely from the aspect of terror organizations who aim to destabilize the world in the form of attacks and mayhem. However, the “silent invasion” that Islam has launched on the West and the world at large, requires other solutions, which can only be made at the highest government levels, and once they are recognized as being an issue.
I apologize for a wordy post and thank those who have sat through it.
DesiGyrl: Interesting post. Thank you. A question and a comment. Assuming the BJP comes into power in 2009 as you asserted, how will this affect Muslims in India? I can only hope that Indian-American relations improve in the ensuing years. These two countries have a common enemy-----Islamic supremacism.
DesiGyrl it seems your elites have been successful of whitewashing the atrocities of the islamic evil past.
They have to go, that is thrown out of the elected offices and replaced with people who are Hindu minded and wanting a real free economy. The pak you can tell is very jealous of the booming economy India has had and like all other islmaic failed states, as there is no other, want to shift the blame to others in order to keep their people in line and remain in power, that is the clerics.
What a surprise!
Not that the charity is a front for funding jihad, but that the UN actually acknowledged this fact!
Charity = money (zakat) for jihad. - dumbledoresarmy
Exactly. Now to get the financial nitwits to fully comprehend ramifications of Sharia compliant finance and it's mandate for zakat.
DESI GYRL
Unfortunately americas been neutralized the average dumb downed american voted in the muslim plant we could not take out saddam and not have half this nation up in arms and by the way to the dummies who say iraq was not neccessary.
SADDAM has attacked us for years the removal of saddam was completely needed start at assination attempy of ex pres what does this show us in two ways.
First it shows us even after getting his butt wooped saddam was not scared of us but needed revenge the mind of the arab is interesting.
Awcond that muslim properganda on the simple minded american has been completely successful.
I cannot paste my compouters messed up SO I WILL WRITE OUT SEVERAL GOOGLE SEARCHEWS ON SADDAM TO GET YOU GUYS TO LOOK UP WHAT YOU HAVE NOT OBVIOUSLY LOOKED UP.
CNN INTERVIEW FBI LEAD AGENTS ON OKLAHOMA CITY BEFORE CLINTON SILANCED THEM.
TWO SADDAM TAPES TRANSLATED THESE ARE TAPES ABC BROADCAST ON NIGHT LINE LARGELY IGNORED BY PRESS ONLY SEEN ONCE ON TV FOR HALF HOUR AND STILL WHERE NOT FULLY TRANSLATED BUT TALKS ABOUT SADDAM ATTACKING US THREW PROXY SADDAM IN HIS OWN WORDS WITH HIS WAR GENERALS.
THREE CZECH INTREL SAYING CIA LIED ABOUT IT NOT BEING ATTA IN PRAGUE THAT CIA COVERED UP CAUSE CIA GOT THROWN OUT OF INVESTIGATION BY CZEZCHS CAUSE THEY THE CIA GOT ONE OF THERE AGENTS KILLED.
4 WEAPONS ON MASS DESTRUCTION GOOGLE IRAQI GENERAL GEORGES SADA ANOTHE IGNORED PRESS STORY SEVERAL IRAQI GENERAL TELL HOW WMDS WAS MOVED OUTR WITRH RUSSIAN HELP AND AN SYRIAN JOURNALIST POIINTS OUT ON MAP WHERE WEAPONS WHERE BURIED.
5 NEWS STORY ON WEDDING IN JORDAN WHERE AL QUADA WANTED TO SET OFF VX GAS CAUGHT AT JORDANIAN BORDER 50 TONS OF GAS ABOUT 93 HAD IRAQI MARKINGS ON IT.
6RAMZI YOPUSEFF AND FIRST WORLD TRADE BOMBERS HE WAS A BELUSSIAN A PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSASINS IN IRAQI IRANIAN MOUNTAINS SADDAM USED TIME AND AGAIN TO ASSASINATE PEOPLEMOST USED IRAQI DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
7YOUSEFF BEFORE FLIGHT 800 THE DAY BEFORE A MAFIA MOLE INSIDE WITH HIM TELLS FBI HE SAYS THERE WILL BE A AIRPLANE SHOT DOWNM NEXT DAY OVER LONG ISLAND.
tHERE IS MUCH MORE BUT RESEARCH THESE THINGS AND COMPLETELY STOP LISTENING TO MAIN STREAM MEDIA NOT ONLY DO THEY LIE THEU LEAVE OUT VOLUMES OF TRUTH EVERY DAY THEY SIDED WITH THE JIHADU TO FILL THYERE AGENDA.
Also saddam on tapes translated stateing he new we had wrong guy on anthraxing he knew who did it and that he was fighting a wae with us useing proxy against us [basically terro=rists to hit us] then theres the northern kurd group in iraq he used to fight the kurds we backed they where al quada group so .
STOP LISTENING TO NEWS AND START GOOGLEING TRUTH
Pakistan is doing all the mischief by projecting so called "Kashmir" bogey. To India , even legally and otherwise, Kashmir is what " Alaska " is to USA. USA got it as a purchase deal from Russians way back in Czar time. Similarly the Maharajah of Jam-mu and Kashmir got J&K in a purchase deal from the British.
So what is the difference ?. If it is OK for USA then it is OK for India too.
Muslims in J&K have been agitating from the time of Shaikh Abdullah supported by Muslim Ummah by projecting the original deal of J&K of Maharajah as 'bad'. For them then even 'Alaska Deal' of USA with Russia is 'bad'.
Muslims just keep inventing thesis of 'Victimology' and pursue 'Jihad' in that garb.Muslims are so well off today that there is no room for any grouse.
Even if they get Kashmir , they will look for more.
KASH
I am all for making muslims victims but heres the point every land they want as muslim land they make up being victims every where.
We are in the world in extremely bad trouble america elected a muslim plant if this guy muslimbama gets to finish being pres the world is truly screwed.
With all the Mohammadan charities claiming to help
poor and distressed Mohammadans, there should be no poor or distressed Mohammadans.
But we see how the receivers of jakat and jizya 'donations' spend those winfall bucks.
All Islamic charities should be suspect...
DesiGyrl,
Fascinating stuff. When I searched the topic I found several articles documenting Amnesty International avoiding the subject of the Pundits in Kashmir, despite being given documentary evidence of Islamic ethnic cleansing.
Are the Kashmiri Pundits abandoned Dregs & Derelicts?
by V. Sundaram
Much further down in the article:
Muslim 'charity' is very successful at buying opinion makers. Helping the poor? Not so much.
Other than jihad, Muslim 'charity' keeps US universities in the da'wa business, American corporations in the sharia business, and former American presidents in pocket money.
Kashmir is just the excuse of the day - everyone who's sensible in India knows that. If it weren't Kashmir, it'd be "oppression of Muslims" or "discrimination" or "grievances" of some sort or the other. Anything that allows forcing Islam onto others through murder.
Unfortunately, 80% of Hindus in India are still asleep and buy into the "let's all live together in peace" philosophy, not knowing that India will only be at peace from the Muslim pov when it's Islamic and under Sharia Law.
Thanks for your comments. In answer to Wellington's question: If the BJP is brought into power, they will launch a war against Pakistan – no questions asked. I am not a war-monger, and I often get weird looks when I say this out loud to my friends (I live in socialist Spain), but I don’t see any other solution.
As to how Muslims react to the BJP, or what effect a BJP government would have on Muslims – the BJP is known to call a spade a spade. Muslims ofcourse are not fond of the party for that reason, but there are certain Muslims to be found in the BJP nonetheless. Former President of India Abdul J Kalam (who the radicals believe is not a true Muslim because he is not radical enough about Muslim issues and also because he reads the Bhagwad Gita, the sacred text of the Hindus) is part of the BJP for instance. The BJP is fond of non-psycho Muslims, basically.
Anyway, one of the best BJP leaders Narendra Modi has been defamed by Leftists to such extent, that when he was invited to attend a conference of Non-Resident Indians in the US a few years ago, he was denied a visa (by pressure on US authorities by popular media), as he is blamed for the "Godhra Incident." The leftist media exaggerated the Godhra death toll to 2,000, while the actual figures were closer to between 800 and 900. It was a retaliation by Hindus, to Muslim violence when they burned a train that carried Hindu pilgrims. They were all burnt alive. Hindus responded with anger killing about 800-900 Muslims, and the Leftists have somehow managed to place the blame squarely on Narendra Modi. Its funny, because this incident sky-rocketed his popularity and he is at present serving his third term as Chief Minister of Gujrat, and many Indians on JW want to see him as the next PM of India.
DESI SMALL WONDER ANOTHER PLACE THE LEFT HELPS DEALS WITH AND IS A WILLING PARTNER OF JIHAD FUNNY THEU WOULD BE FOREST ONES KILLED BY THOSE THEY PROTECT
Indeed. Pakistan has put the leaders of Jamma-e-dawa on HOUSE ARRESTS. Three months after that they will be set free to plan mischief and mayhem. Back to square one...!!!
Thank you Beagle. That was heart-wrenching. I say if the Pakistanis want a resolve to the Kashmir issue, we should resolve it for them. India, the US, Israel, Britain... the UN forces in general - kill these Mujahideen and free Kashmir of Islam.
I am baffled that Amnesty International would do such a thing. That’s going to be one charity I’m never contributing to.
Why is she smiling in that photo, she just got arrested?
While Pakistani Daily 'Dawn' has reached Ajmal Kasav's family in Faridkot: http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/12/top6.htm
Foreign minister Qureshi says "No proof": http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pak-sings-old-tune-says-no-proof-from-india/80367-2.html
Go figure!