The U.S. is still throwing money at its duplicitous friend and ally Pakistan, but at least is not waiting for it to act.
"Eight dead in Pakistan missile strike," from Agence France-Presse, December 22:
A SUSPECTED US missile strike on a Pakistani tribal area known as a hub of Taliban and al-Qa'ida activity killed at least eight militants, officials said...."It was not immediately clear if the twin strikes, only minutes apart, targeted any senior Taliban or al-Qa'ida fugitives,'' a senior security official told AFP.
let us hope so...
We keep this up, and sooner or later they are going to announce the tragic death of Zawahiri.
When is America going to do the same here in the UK? There are lots of Islamists and terrorists that are planning the destruction of the UK and the USA, although our government is unwilling to act.
When is America going to do the same here in the UK?
Probably when the people of the UK actually get of their backsides and do something. The thing is though, I doubt it will be the Islamists the US will target.
km
And what do you mean by such a statement km? How can the people get off their backsides when the government has carefully indoctrinated the youth at school as well as brainwashed them via the media and Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation?
Our own government continually states Islam is a Religion of Peace and gives the British people no reason to see them as their enemy. This is then emphasised throughout the UK media outlets.
And when Britain gets up off its arse it will vote for the Conservatives and remove NuLabour, who will continue their love affair with the Saudis and state Islam is a Religion of Peace.
Like I said, when will the US do the same as they have in Pakistan in the UK? These Islamists and terrorists are a threat to them also.
Sadly Richard you are more than probably right.
I am never failed to be amazed by the apathy and short sightedness of the British public and our politicians.
We wouldn't want to miss an episode of X-factor now would we.
Only six man I was hoping for more Islamic Jihadis killed. These hit and run tactics into Pakistan has to be followed with full scale bombardment of the lawless areas of Pakistan that harbors the Jihadi training camps.
I wonder what it costs to kill eight average Taliban with a missile?
km,
As you rightfully said "we wouldn't want to miss an episode of X-Factor now would we"?
8 million people voted in the final of X Factor km. That's the equivalent of all the people who voted for Labour in the last election. However you can be sure that many of these people never actually voted in the general election. They will of course have been the 'yoof' who are not interested in Politics, look upon them as liars and corrupt(don't we all) but then complain when they're lives go belly up, because of pathetic policies.
The government has created this apathy km. They have brought this about in their carefully constructed plan as they see their future in the minorities and immigrants whom they make their policies for as well as allow into the UK to vote for the people who have given them a 'new life'.
It is all rather insidious from NuLabour. They have kept the public interested in entertainment reality TV, addressing the main problems in life not with better education and more jobs, but through more game shows and reality TV, making people believe that forget about a career, go on a gameshow and win cash or appear on X Factor and become a famous singer(always ends up in failure and dejection especially when people have tasted fame, lose it and know they'll never get it back).
Britain really is in a mess and I really don't think there's any resolve for it. I think the wound that has been inflicted by NuLabour is far too deep and we will only see the real damage in years to come.
Britain really is in a mess and I really don't think there's any resolve for it. I think the wound that has been inflicted by NuLabour is far too deep and we will only see the real damage in years to come.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart
That is why it is up to the people to bring change about, if that is what they really want. Do people (everywhere, not just Britain) want change or just a reason to complain?
It might take the country hitting rock bottom before people accept what is before their eyes. Then the only question is how they will react. Will it be constructive or destructive? How did the British people take the loss of empire after WWII and the bombing of London? Did they lash out at the world or did they set about rebuilding their nation?
What will we in the US do when our government finally files for bankruptcy? It can't be that far off in the future. We're spending trillions of dollars on bailouts. Can quadrillions be far behind? Baby boomers won't just drain Social Security. We'll bankrupt the entire economy when it's our turn to collect the benefits set up by the government over the last seventy-five years.
No matter if anyone was killed, this strike will be cited the next time al Qaeda or another Muslim terror group launches an attack.
It's too bad we can't quarantine Pakistan. No one should be allowed to enter or exit but the layout of the land makes that hard to do.
I don't know, Nulabor, or the conservative party, what does it matter?
Isn't Number Ten Downing Street a sub office of Brussels run by the EU?
Haven't we signed away our sovereignty? I thought we did.
Well, nor we, but Mr Brown.
Remember the British war-time complaint about the Yanks? "They're overpaid, over-sexed, and over here!"
The same could be said these days about the Pakistanis in Britain: overpaid, with all their welfare benfits and council housing; over-sexed, the older ones with their multiple wives and the younger ones with raping British girls; and over here, in their too many hundreds of thousands.
The Brits have got to get control of their own country again. If that means pulling out of the EU, then so be it. I've often thought the the U.K. would have been better off working out some sort of union with the "Anglo" countries of the Commonwealth -- like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand -- than joining the EU.
Britain's position as an island preserved it for centuries from many of the evils of the continental countries, such as large standing armies, and the taxes to pay for them, bloated bureaucracies, and state-directed economies. The policy of separation from the continent served Britain well for several centuries, maybe they should try it again.
PMK,
It is very, very different looking at the situation in the UK from America. I'm certainly not saying that all things are rosy in the USA, far from it, but to truly understand the situation in the UK, you have to fully understand it.
The point of view that you put across is one that still maintains a loyalty, patriotism and love of the UK its history and heritage, however it couldn't be farther from the truth. I have already written countless times on here that the Britain American's believe is legend and where all legends are - in the past.
Already, our middle classes are leaving the UK in their droves to move to better climes. Many have moved to Australia, Canada and of course America.
More importantly, one thing that is oh so different in British society compared to 20 years ago, was the teaching of love for one's country. The socialists/communists have managed to completely annihilate that teaching and in its place imposed the love of other cultures over our own. Therefore, we have people born in the UK who are foreigners in their own country.
Only today I read that the government is to grant powers of access to bailiffs and restraint over those whom are in debt - here. We are turning into an even more fascist society, where people will not bother to repel this as unless it affects them they couldn't care less. This is our society PMK. We no longer live in a selfless society but an exceptionally selfish one.
The fightback against the destruction of the Empire and the standing strong of the British down to their unique ability of community and surpassing overwhelming odds against them. They had love for one another, their King and their country. What will happen now when our society goes belly up, where there is no community but in its place a fragmented society of multi cultures all segregating themselves off from one another, having been allowed to do so by the government and local councils?
I really do wish that Americans would throw away this 'love affair' they have for the British. As much as I respect America and Americans and look upon them as our allies, the majority of people in the UK, hate the USA as they do Israel in support of Palestine. Britain is not what you think it to be it makes me sad to see that Britain does not show the same respect back to the Americans as they do us. At least in the past we had future generations growing up who were British, now we do not have that thanks to ZaNuLabour. It makes no difference whatsoever if you vote for Conservatives or Liberal Dems. That is if people vote.
There rally is only one way of saving the UK and these are as follows:
1. Remove all Muslims and illegal immigrants and immediately end all relationship with Saudi Arabia and Muslim Nations.
2. Immediately institute British Culture back into schools and pride in being British.
3. Bring back treason laws.
4. Immediate removal from the EU including all trade agreements.
5. Reconstruct traditional trade agreements with commonwealth countries.
6. Immediate withdrawal from the UN.
7. Form a new alliance of Nations between America, Australia and NZ, Canada and other Commonwealth countries.
8. The promotion of British Culture and British Heritage would always be above all others here in the UK.
Unless strict measures are secured to bring back our culture then the UK will become a state of the EU and then Islamised as the EU welcomes Muslim Nations in as well as parts of North Africa as the EU expands its borders.
Ebonystone,
Your above post has mirrored mine and Wellington's words in a previous discussion BBC "favorite" Muslim-spokesman: "Any Muslim killed fighting Israel goes to paradise".
I will not divulge as you will understand when you read our discussion, before the thread was hijacked by Fancy that is.
"Unless strict measures are secured to bring back our culture then the UK will become a state of the EU and then Islamised as the EU welcomes Muslim Nations in as well as parts of North Africa as the EU expands its borders."
that is inevitable, the bureaucrats of brussel are already working to create a federal europe ..... unless the paranoids are right and 2012 is the end of the world
Péguy,
I read your other article and agreed on your beliefs on Europe(my discussion with Wellington). The EU supranation's wheels were set in motion in the 20's by Monnet et all - a Frenchman.
Sarkozy is keen to continue this and you are very correct he is Faux right wing. Another socialist in disguise.
Already they want a European Army, where our regiments are being disbanded all over the UK, no more so than up in Scotland. They have their own Socialists up there in the guise of Alex Salmond's SNP(Scottish Nationalists Party).
You are correct, as am I. Europeanisation is inevitable unless a Nationalist government is voted into power. And I mean not just in the UK but all over Europe.
8 jihadists killed ! whoopee! is that supposed to make us happy? Is this a numbers game? so the more jihadists we killed the more we think we are winning the war aginst radical islam? does this mean we must keep sending our hard earned dollers to kill even more of these jihdis? Don't these fools know that there are at least 16 more jihdis just itching to take their place. That there are more muslim boys on their way to follow in the jihdis's footsteps. That jihad is part and parcel of islam and you can't eliminate it by killing off some jihadis. that almost all muslim pakistanis support jihad in one form or another. that the billions of our dollers being sent to pakistan only ends up supporting more jihad. I for one knows that 8 dead jihdis mena nothing, it just means that you have 8 families celebrating their son's wedding to the virgins of paradise.
Probably when the people of the UK actually get of their backsides and do something. The thing is though, I doubt it will be the Islamists the US will target.Posted by: km
That is what I have jokingly maintained. However, given the habitual support of the US, for Muslims in conflict with others, that should come as no surprise. Of course they will be supported by the BBC and other Lefties, and all national patriots will be painted as Nazi BNP types. That is what happened to Milosovitch, as Bosnia was ripped apart and handed over to the Muslim invaders.
Not so long ago, Sarajevo was a Christian city. Now it is 90% Muslim. And oh yes, one must not forget, at this time of the year, that little town of Bethlehem - it is also Muslim majority.
" I wonder what it costs to kill eight regular Taliban with a missile?"
post above
Respectfully..I think a lot less than replacing the highly trained American heroes that they could kill. Taliban recruits can also begin to see a missile in their own futures.
RtL's right. Being American one has a different political worldview. Brits, and Europeans more generally, have no more concept of either sovereignty or the individual. The don't believe in statism, and when that's the case, there really is no more nation to believe in or work for. The individual has long since gone out the window. Europeans are entitled, and they pay for it. But now that money has run out. They work 35-hour weeks, have 6-week vacations, have government healthcare, government housing, government childcare, government to take care of their old people, government to ensure that, God forbid, nobody should ever live in poverty (which does away with the incentive to ever work hard, leaving the nation essentially communist, as do ridiculous taxes), and this all leads to an Islamic-style lack of responsibility lack of accountability, and outright decadence.
The only way to fix that is to scrap it and start all over, which is really hard to do when one is faced with the largest senior citizen demographic in history, who actually fought and paid through the nose to build up that state. The UK needs to refigure its entire line of thinking. In the US we have only one of these suicidal institutions, Social Security, and that's already screwing old people and will continue to do so forever. Multiply that situation by 1000, socialize it all, and you have Europe. It's a recipe for suicide. Will Britain change once it becomes Italy and nobody can ever get a job and move out of their parents' house? We'll see, but I doubt it. This precludes one's ability to rely on the next generation, because there won't be one at this rate. Nobody can settle down and have kids unless they're willing to do it Islamic-parasite-style.
Furthermore, Britain is unsure of itself. It has come to believe that its culture is evil and that all cultures are equal, which is just untrue. Muslims are very secure in their cultural identity. Soft cultures get annihilated by hard cultures.
Maybe Britain needs a real war to rally the people. They also need to get rid of Maoist government propaganda.
"In the US we have only one of these suicidal institutions, Social Security"
posted by jdamn
I'm not sure what your criteria are when you say we have only one of these "suicidal institutions". What about Medicare, Medicaid, public housing, food stamps, and Aid to Dependent Children? Then another ticking fiscal time-bomb is the federal employees' pension plan: like Social Security, but unlike virtually all private pension plans, it has a generous cost-of-living clause; so that for many civil-service retirees, it doesn't take too many years before their pensions are larger than their salaries ever were.
As you say, it's suicidal. Especially when aliens can come here illegally, have a child here, and then qualify for the full range of benefits.
The junior Taliban need to be obliterated just as much as the senior.
Get 'em all.
Retrograde baboons.
Richard,
I think you are proving my point. You illustrate how bad things are in Britain and then list what must be done to change things.
So what about it? Are the British people going to abandon the islands in droves? Then Britain is no more and there is no reason to worry about it.
Is the indoctrination of the last twenty years irreversible? I hope not. If it is, then you just need to let us know when you move.
It's not a love affair or a romanticization of Britain that I feel. My family is Irish and German. I can't speak for others but I can only say I look at Britain almost as the canary in the coal mine. Britain's fate could befall America if we are not careful.
You closed by saying:
Unless strict measures are secured to bring back our culture then the UK will become a state of the EU and then Islamised as the EU welcomes Muslim Nations in as well as parts of North Africa as the EU expands its borders.
So what will Britons do? Either you go along with globalization and political correctness and allow British culture to be subsumed by the EU and the African countries or you fight back.
You vote for the people who are selling out Britain or you vote for someone else. It's not enough to say that NuLabour is too strong. It's too strong only because no one will vote for someone else. The change has to come from the bottom up. Have the Britiah people reached the point where they are forever incapable of fighting back? If so, then Britain is already lost.
PMK,
I write what I do on here to warn America at the car crash that is Great Britain and take heed. Britain is already lost. You ask if the indoctrination of the last 20 years is irreversible and unfortunately it is. Let's make an analogy, if you plant a tree and do not protect it in a cage, then it will grow crooked. This tree can never be straightened as it's already on its path. If you grow up in a country where you are told to hate it for its past and ally with all its enemies then what kind of a person are you? You become a foreigner in your land of birth. It's not just the Muslims who hate the UK but much of today's youth, who have now adopted a Black American Hiphop/Rap gang culture as there own. Britain is the canary and the gas is killing it.
The majority of British people haven't got a clue about Europeanisation. They are fed the same bullsh*t about it on a daily basis as they are of Islam. Why on earth would a government promote anti European propaganda when it's in bed with it? Brown promised the people a referendum on Europe and never delivered because he knew they'd vote no and then went ahead and signed the Lisbon Treaty, effectively handing over control of the UK to Brussels.
Those who are standing up against Europeanisation and Islam are the BNP, but they have carefully been lambasted and sullied over a period of time, that the word BNP automatically is equated with racism.
It's not so much that the British people have reached a point that they won't fight back. They've reached a point where everything the older Brits took for granted is completely alien to them. I've said it many times over that people born in the UK are not British or English as they do not grow up with the culture. They are foreigners in their own country. They've been fed with so much anti West propaganda that they hate their country of birth, choosing to side with every minority in the UK, regardless of their regime/culture and support them. Many are even buying into conspiracies that Mugabe's Zimbabwe is under secret attack from the British who want to colonise it again.
PMK, the UK is lost because they have managed to successfully brainwash the youth into hating their country. That is where the success is. It doesn't matter what I think as I have no sway over the youth, who will procreate and the hatred for the country and British heritage will be passed down and down.....
People in the UK, have no idea about their past. They have no idea of the scheming Europeans whom many feel closer to than America or the Commonwealth. The UK is f*cked. I'm trying to get out and the sooner the better.
The game in Pakistan is getting very dangerous. US drones are targeting and neutralizing Jalaluddin Haqqani, Mullah Omar and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, which the Pakistani military considers as assets. Musharraf had signed peace deals with those men. That will leave the Mehsud clan in control of NFWP and FATA. The Mehsud clan has already declared jihad on Pakistan. The Pakistani army are good at training jihadis to fight unarmed civilians of Mumbai but is afraid of fighting trained fighters. They have already lost control of Swat, FATA, and large parts of Balochistan and NFWP. Sooner or later, Peshawar will fall to the Mehsud clan. Already, the English learning children of the hypocritical and clean shaven jihadis are afraid to go to their private schools because the school buses are being burnt in Peshawar by the jihadis who want real shariah. ANP pakhtuns and MQM mohajirs are fighting turf wars in Karachi and have loaded up on their weapons. Its scary to see them openly display their weapons on the main roads of Karachi on youtube videos. An urban civil war can break out any time between them and it will be bloody, very bloody. The balochis aren't going to forget the murder of Nawab Bugti by the Pakistani army and an obvious ploy to convert them into a minority in Gwadar. They want their independence from the arrogant Punjabis. Pakistani army's attempt to burn NATO supply lines using its own masked fighters will only cause them more trouble because US will now say that drones are attacking in the areas where Pakistani state has already lost control. The 'house arrest' of Mumbai terrorists, which even the Interpol and FBI cannot verify, is sure to cause escalation even with a dhimmi Indian government. Their national dream of establishing an Islamic caliphate with Pakistan as a center, as espoused by their national poet, Ulema Mohmmad Iqbal, forces them to support worldwide jihad. And it is consuming them from inside and outside.
'Already, our middle classes are leaving the UK in their droves to move to better climes.'
True Richard but only to find Islam is already taking hold in these foreign climes as well. In New Zealand for example Islamic organisations have been set up, they are advising the government of their special needs, universities are running courses in Islamic studies, droves of young Asians are coming into the country on student visas, and mosques are proliferating at a rapid rate. In a country the size of New Zealand, with only 4-million people, Muslims will soon outnumber the rest and where do you go from there?
Naresh C. l would only hope the pressure is kept on the pak, and will bring it to a head, and where India and the West can bring ruin on islamists once and for all.
Tommo,
Of course they are, they're conquering the Western World by stealth Jihad as you well know. However people are leaving the UK, because they know that the police and judicial system in NZ is a lot fairer than the UK. You do not have CCTV's all over the place to watch your every move. You have not yet sold out on your promises to your people as NuLabour have. NZ maybe only 4 million people, but think about it. If people are moving from the UK to NZ, because of Islamisation then you have more people to fight for your cause.
If you grow up in a country where you are told to hate it for its past and ally with all its enemies then what kind of a person are you?
Chateaubriand said something like this : the first sign of the illness of a nation is the hate for his past.
Intellectuals (epigones of Nietzche, Marx etc and "deconstructionists" of all sort) since the 60's want the destruction destruction of the Judeo-Christian foundation
Schools are re education camps , cultural relativism is now a dogma, history is rewritten to fit political correctness.
(eg. in the middle ages euros were savages , while arabs were greatly civilized. Except that 50 years before the first arabic (Al Kindi) philosopher existed, Charlemagne had already created the "Palatin School" in Aix-La-Chapelle where savants and theologians/philosophers such as Raban Maur, Alcuin and Fridugise -and latter John Scot Erigene- taught neo-platonician doctrines. Then there is this LIE on the "muslim roots of europe", still taught on our schools, spread by this disgusting nazi orientialist Sigrid Hunke who thought that europe had been corruped by judeo christianity)
Already in France kids are taught in history class that Sharia is an egalitarian law.
I guess they just want to make the ground fertile for an islamic state
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Intellectuals (epigones of Nietzche, Marx etc and "deconstructionists" of all sort) since the 60's want the destruction of the Judeo-Christian foundation of our civilization
I like your posts Péguy. I am unfortunately not as 'savvy' on French history as you are, but I certainly know, having read Nietzche and Marx, what you're on about.
I've always been a believer in change and the questioning of our past, but only if that brings about a positive change and not a negative one.
I too have read about the 'new' indoctrination from Islam that European history has Islam to thank for a lot.
There certainly is a big problem in France with Islam, that's for sure. Your Muslim population is spiralling but then I believe that has a lot to do with your old Muslim colonies in North Africa. I always thought that the Netherlands would be the first Islamised country in Europe, however I am now considering France.
for France it is certainly too late ; we have like 5 to 8millions of mohamedans who do not want to integrate unlike chinese or indian immigrants. Mosques with minarets are being built all over the country with public funding while churches are destroyed. In 10 years we will hear the call to prayer in the streets, that is a certainity
Péguy
Well, if that is the news from a Frenchman then who am I to disagree?
You know my stance on France from my debate with Wellington which you to partook in. However you will know that my argument is not so much with the French people but with the French establishment. You also know as well that I and Wellington are correct in France's utter contempt for the British even though they helped them in WW2. You will also know as well that the drive for a European Federation of States has been from the French as well, who have benefited from EU subsidies. No other animosity has been as great as the English/French rivalry because of our turbulent history, but regardless, I will be sad to see France Islamised.
You say you have 5-8 million Mohamedans and I believe we are not far behind you in the UK. It is sad to see as well that although your countryside still remains idylic and historically French, the cities, as here in the UK are the breeding grounds for Islam.
Will the French fight back against Islamisation? Will Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National gain a large portion of the vote as Sarkozy's party is certainly not what people imagined it to be. Then again, what do you expect when his hero is Tony Blair.
Good luck in your fight Péguy, I hope, like the British people, the French fight back.
Correction :
I hope, that the British and the French fight back
"You also know as well that I and Wellington are correct in France's utter contempt for the British even though they helped them in WW2."
yes, France has always seen the UK has the hereditary enemy since the middle age (the hundred years wars etc passionating stories)
"It is sad to see as well that although your countryside still remains idylic and historically French, the cities, as here in the UK are the breeding grounds for Islam."
in The Ile-de-France (Paris and its suburbs, the historical France, the land of the great Capetian dynasty) Mohamed is already the most popular name given to newborns
"Will Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National gain a large portion of the vote as Sarkozy's party is certainly not what people imagined it to be. Then again, what do you expect when his hero is Tony Blair."
JM Le Pen is a complete moron, an holaucost denier. With his anti-semitic jokes nationalism has no credit anymore; he probably hates jews more than islam. His party probably won't survive his death
And french Conservatism (gaullisme) has been killed by Jacques Chirac (he admitted being a closet socialist lol how sad is that ...)
There are still some people worth of interests but sadly they have too little influence.
I have nothing else to add , i admit France has played the first role in this fiasco, our "elites" (i hate using this word for people who have no respect for culture and history) have started a cultural suicide.
Next step is Turkey joining the E.U.
Péguy
That's Paris and its suburbs but not the idylic parts of France spread all over. There is no doubt that Paris and its suburbs are the most densely populated area for Islam
Maybe so, but when it comes to saving France from Islamisation he's your best hope. As has been said in many previous posts on Nationalist parties, it's best to vote in one that may be racist and anti-semetic but one that will preserve that countries tradition, histories and culture over another. More importantly, you still have a chance of changing to another party once they get in unlike with Islam which won't.
Can't say I've any admiration for De Gaulle, but understand why the French do. He hated the British and set about screwing them in the EU. It was odd as a Nationalist, De Gaulle allied with the Supranationalists(who wanted to end all nationalism and sovereignty) in order to shaft the UK and benefit France with EU subsidies. He was a hypocryte of the highest order. As for Chiraq, well, you said it. What do you expect? The French have been the driving force behind the creation of the EUSR and the destruction of Nationalism and sovereignty in all European countries. How ironic that the country that chose to destroy European Nations and dismantle their borders, sovereignty and Nationalism be the first to fall to Islamisation.
France didn't just play the 'first' role in this fiasco. They've been the driving force behind the whole fiasco Péguy. Oh yes, Turkey will of course be next into the EU. This will immediately flood 20 million Muslims into Europe as well as a steady flow of millions from the Middle East to further bring about Islamisation. Turkey is the gateway to the Middle East. Who would have thought this 20 years ago? In fact why did Europe bother defending against the Ottoman Empire? Why did Kosovo and the Serbians bother, when they were so badly betrayed by Europe and America in their abandonement of their Christian people in favour of the Muslims and the creation of the first Muslim state in Europe? It won't stop at Turkey. Soon Europe will expand East into the Middle East and South into North Africa. It really wouldn't surprise me when the 'Stan' group of countries become part of Europe. By that time Europe will be Eurabia.
"Can't say I've any admiration for De Gaulle, but understand why the French do. He hated the British and set about screwing them in the EU."
well the french conservatives back in the day didn't really like the U.K to say the least
(and i must say it is still somewhat true for various "philosophical" reasons)
Also at that time the predominant opinion was that the UK wasn't really concerned about the UE
Now i feel that both "capitalistic" forces and socialists are unified to screw us, the first are happy with the U.E as they want a giant free market with no borders where capital and workforce can circulate freely; the second are just plain traitors. Globalization and internationalism look very similar to me.
The situation is worse than the fall of the Roman Empire, there's no one to fight the fight, those who do -like Geert Wilders- are labeled facist,racist by the leftist media/intellectuals.
I'll never forget Sarkozy saying Arabic is the language of the futur. What a traitor.
I really hope for Serbia it does not join the E.U,
hopefully they are not convinced that a EU membership would be a blessing
Let's just symbolically burry the western europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGYQtNAHbX4
Péguy,
it wasn't that the UK wasn't really concerned with the UK as much as it didn't want to lose control of its government and borders, losing its sovereignty. It was in fact Churchill who called for a United Europe after the War but with each country remaining sovereign to itself. As you know the socialists whose plan for a united Europe was its complete opposite. This is why I was surprised with de Gaulle, a nationalist in what he did allying with the Socialist belief in a supranational Europe. He was certainly a true French patriot and Nationalist.
I would tend to agree with you there. It is however the elites who really have nothing to lose and everything to gain that are the biggest winners. Regardless of economic markets, they'll still make a killing and retire on their six figure pensions with luxurious surroundings and capital in the bank. Then again as you know, there are conservative, liberal and socialist capitalists. There are capitalists in all walks of life. The Muslims are in fact using a form of capitalism with which to expand their 'empire' as such.
If Sarkozy said that Arabic is the language of the future then that just goes to show his true intentions. He should have been nominated for the international dhimmi awards. Arabic, the language of the future? It should be a dead language.
I hope Serbia and Ireland don't join the EU. I hope the west wakes up and helps Serbia get Kosovo back. I hope a National party wins in the UK and breaks away from Europe. I hope for many things. Who knows....
I am inclined to agree with the 10 suggestions by Richard the Lionheart to preserve not only the UK but all the nations in the West from Islamic aggression.
But, who will listen?
None got guts to implement his suggestions. They all are afraid of Islam and Muslims.
The WEST is headed Islam-way.
kokamal,
If the West is going to defeat Islamisation it first has to see that Radical Islam is NOT the real problem here - ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM
Just to let you know, I have posted on the Spectator(Melanie Phillips blog) under various guises and I always get to a stumbling block when I equate the problem to Islam. The moderators always end up not publishing the post and I am banned for a while posting, where I leave it for a while then come back under a new name.
The latest was Melanie's blog on Prosecute him. She has written a piece on Asghar Bukhari who did an TV interview stating that Palestinians got to heaven for killing Jews. I believe there was an article here. I posted no different than I do here, but it was as usual deleted. The British press do not allow anything that puts Islam in a bad light, thanks mainly to the Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill, saving themselves from prosecution from the authorities. This is paralleled throughout the British Media kokamal.
It's not that they are scared of Islam or have the guts of implementing such suggestions as mine, however, they do know that doing so would end them with a libel action and a heavy court settlement to said Muslims. They of course would also be liable for stirring up racial and religious hatred and face a prison sentence.
The government will continue in its stance, because it is doing everything necessary to continue its lucrative relationship with Saudi Arabia. Anything that the British Media publishes that is defamatory to Islam, the Saudis will see and end their 'love affair'(control and Islamisation) with the UK.
I have said this before many times and will continue to do so. If countries are to defeat Islamisation they must first believe again in their Nations, look back to their history and realise that when faced with cultural oblivion and foreign control, the only way of defeating this is to unite as a people and go to war against the invading force.
There will be bloodshed, much of it. This could easily have been avoided had the British & European governments, not admitted so many Muslims into their countries. They also should have ended their addiction to Oil and invested billions on converting to Nuclear Power.
Now we have a real problem in the UK. If we end our relationship with Saudi Arabia for Oil then we have millions of Muslims, all possible terrorists who will be a problem for the safety of Nuclear Power stations. We all saw what happened in Chernobyl and that would be like a picnic compared to what potentially could happen.
Britain and the EU simply opened the flood gates and everyone poured in.
You are correct that the West is f*cked totally. America may be very well be the only Nation in the West that isn't Islamised but the prospect of having an Islamic Canada, Europe and South America with guns and missiles pointed against them from all angles is a dreadful thought and they will eventually succumb to Islamisation, especially when Nuclear Submarines will be crossing the Atlantic and launching at mainland USA.
This fight is a world fight. It poses a greater threat to world freedom that Nazism ever did and until the world wakes up and sees that Islam is the threat and Islam hasn't been hijacked but instead is the problem then all hope of a defence against them is futile.
I can't really say any more as the only place a Brit can voice his opinions at Islamisation of the UK is on an American website. How dreadful that the mainstream press suppress freedom of speech, especially in this most dangerous time.