One of the heroes of our age
When Colin Powell endorsed Obama in October, he went out of his way to criticize those who were troubled by the idea of a Muslim President. Hugh Fitzgerald explained what was wrong with Powell's analysis in his article "Colin Powell and Jihad: A dereliction of duty." And now the heroic Wafa Sultan contributes some observations of her own: "Contemplating Islam," by Wafa Sultan in Hudson New York, December 15 (thanks to Pamela):
If we consider the Islamic texts, their content and the devotion that so many Muslims - including in America - attach to them; if we consider the tragic upshot of these teachings in terms of our current world’s security, is it not a duty for each one of us to view Islam not frivolously but in a most serious manner?There was an episode during the current Presidential election that greatly disturbed me. It was former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s interview on “Meet the Press.” For me this interview was a defining moment. He expressed his displeasure at some of his colleagues’ accusations that Obama might be a Muslim, and stated: “And what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim?”
Mr. Powell’s admonition at others who dare questioning Muslims, or Islam and its implications, in particular, people like me, who suffered immensely precisely because there is “something wrong with being a Muslim,” would indeed be disheartened. If Powell doesn’t understand what may be the dire consequences for being a Muslim, then who should understand? The man, who once held the post of American Secretary of State, asserts categorically that there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim, even though the country he led has been suffering immensely from Muslim terrorism and has paid a high price because of it.
I appreciate that Powell, who has been nurtured by the American moral code, refuses to judge people on the basis of their religious affiliation. That is his right. But he does not have the right to nonchalantly disregard people’s apprehensions of Muslims, especially at those of us who have lived in Muslim countries. We have risked our lives to escape from them, and are now risking our lives again to speak up against the harm they cause, induced by Islamic theology and culture.
In order to understand my perspective one would have to be a woman, living in Syria, my birthplace, or any other Arab Muslim country.
Since immigrating to the United States more than five presidential elections ago, I always regarded American politics as a luxury that did not concern me. Living in the US was enough to satisfy me emotionally, physically and intellectually. Anything beyond that was more than I required.
I came to regard America’s might as much greater than any president that happened to be in power - Democratic or Republican. Hence, I assumed that any person, who attained the rank of presidential candidate, regardless of party affiliation, was capable of safely leading this great nation. Because of that, I never took the trouble to inquire which candidate was more worthy of victory; for me it was a mere toss-up.
However, the events of September 11th, 2001 stripped away my confidence. I began wondering how well Americans understand Political Islam - the underlying cause of this and other heinous attacks and how willing are we to probe into its ideology or comprehend its objectives. The events surrounding the most recent election have increased my doubts and my concerns for this country, which I love with all my heart.
So what is the problem? During and after the recent election, my fear for America was that Obama’s victory could breathe fresh life into the further rise of Islamism, including Islamic terrorism.
Why?
Islamists’ psychology is worlds apart from that of Westerners. They believe in absolute terms in their divine mission to submit the world to Islam. They are engaged in a constant search for divine meaning and inspiration - even in mundane matters.
First, there was Senator Obama’s Muslim background. It is well known that Mr. Obama was born to a Muslim father, spent part of his early life in Indonesia - a Muslim country - and attended a Muslim school there. Almost every day my inbox was flooded with e-mail rumors about Obama which reflected many American citizens’ fears regarding the Democratic candidate’s Muslim background.
But Mr. Obama reassured us that he is a Christian and that was enough to dispel the doubts I might have had about him being a Muslim. I let go of my fear for America should Obama win. For now, I regained my confidence in him.
However, Salafists interpret even daily events in a way that may not necessarily appear significant to Westerners. In this context some Islamists go so far as viewing the Islamic background of Obama as a heaven-sent confirmation of the first step in realizing the dream of submitting the West to Islam. The mere fact that American president bears a Muslim name like Hussein is enough to assure them that Islam is marching into America and has already infiltrated the White House.
Once, I was browsing through a website in Arabic and came across a news item announcing that the American actress Halle Berry gave birth to a daughter whom she named Nahla; an Arabic name meaning “bee”. I then read readers’ comments on this piece of news. A considerable number of them were jubilant, since they regarded this report as a God’s sign that Islam had begun to advance into America, because the word nahla is mentioned in the Koran.
As for Mr. Powell, does he understand that Islam is not just a religion but a political doctrine that seeks to impose itself on non-Muslims even by force? If he does, why should people not be doubtful?
This is not an Islamophobic prejudice I present. Muslims, like any other national group, can be either good or bad, and the best among them do not act in accordance with Islam’s political ideology, either because they are not familiar with it, or because they have deliberately progressed beyond it. But how are we to scrutinize the good from the bad when a high level political official like Mr. Powell undermines the questioning of any concerns related to this issue?
Certainly, Mr. Powell knows that Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, is most revered among Muslims. Does Mr. Powell realize that it is incumbent upon every devout Muslim male to emulate Muhammed’s ways? If so, has Mr. Powell studied the life of Muhammad as it is recounted in the original Arabic sources, as I learned it in my schooldays?
One particular part of the prophet’s historical account I studied in third grade at primary school. We read with pride how Muhammad beheaded eight hundred Jews from the Bani Quraiza tribe in one night, then took their wives and children hostage and spent that same night with a Jewish woman Safia, whose husband, father and brother he had just killed. This wretched story is only a drop in the ocean of numerous Arabic narratives written about Muhammad’s misconduct.
Moreover, according to Islam’s most revered jurists, a true Muslim must believe in Islam as both religion and a political entity. A committed Salafi Muslim does not recognize the American constitution. His willingness to live under that constitution is, as far as he is concerned, nothing more than an unavoidable step on the way to that constitution’s replacement by Islamic Sharia law.
The Koran states: “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their numbers. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers” (5:51). Is it legitimate for Christians and Jews to be concerned about this tenet?
American government officials must spend funds to interpret Arabic texts word for word, without distortion or falsification. Among other illuminating tenets they may find, is the concept of taqqia (literally, “caution, prudence, dissimulation”). It allows a Muslim to conceal his true cherished beliefs when he feels that non-Muslims around him have the upper hand, while at the same time working secretly to achieve his “noble” objective, so that he can attack them when the time is ripe....
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I think you might want to fix that headline.
Sorry, I realize it posed as a question.
One of the heroes and heroines of our age.
There are many Christians praying for this woman. Many first heard about her when a video was published by mermi.org where she confronted an Iman on Al Jeezeera TV in 2006.
She is definitely a heroine in my eyes. Thank God for her.
Who knew that General Colin Powell could be such a complete PC idiot?
I was shocked, as was everyone else.
I couldn't care less he's a 4-star General. If he was standing in front of my face, I'd say, "You're an imbecile concerning Islam."
If even a name given to a child, most probably because it sounds exotic than anything, sends some arabs in such frenetic delight and engenders in them a convoluted sense of victory over the kufar, what must have they thought of pictures of Pope John Paul II kissing the quaran?
"...pictures of Pope John Paul II kissing the Qur'an?
Posted by: Hermit at December 16, 2008 6:00 PM
He did that? I've lost all respect for him. Disgusting.
She is definitely a heroine in my eyes. Thank God for her.
Posted by: Pamela
Yes indeed...A leftist I was discussing worldly matters with, tried to smear Wafa...I fixed that with a double swami wami.
It didn't hurt him much, he will be able to walk erect again in a few months...
I never did like Powell...I soured on him when I found out he was a member of the CFR...but so many are...
In that same interview with "Meet the Press" Powell also defended the honor of the "Moslem American Soldier" explaining how proud he was of them.
General Powell didn't realize how many Moslem Americans he offended by saying that. A large majority of Moslem Americans (And most Moslems in general) really believe the US Military is in a "War with Islam" (At least that is their dream)
In fact it is Islam that is at war with everyone else, and always has been......
On a side note: Didnt Colin Powell receive a brand spankin new Jaguar (Automobile) as gift from one of the Princes of Saudi Arabia, a couple of years back?
On a side note: Didn't Colin Powell receive a brand spankin new Jaguar (Automobile) as gift from one of the Princes of Saudi Arabia, a couple of years back?
Posted by: Deus_Vult! at December 16, 2008 6:17 PM
His wife did - from Prince Bandar.
Of course it will never happen, but if I could come face-to-face with Powell, I'd call him a "Whore to Islam."
For darcy's eyes only:
http://www.bible.ca/catholic-pope-kissing-koran.jpg
Warning: you may need psychological treatment after seeing this image.
I agree, she is a hero and a lady who knows the score.I am proud to call her an fellow American. I have spent several years in the Middle East and I am glad she has escaped to here. These liberals who regard Islam as a "religon" should read this article, and I wish it was published on the front page of every newspaper in America(if Ms. Sultan could be in a safe-house!). GOD keep her safe.
"Who knew that General Colin Powell could be such a complete PC idiot?"
Posted by: darcy
That seemed pretty clear during Gulf War I under Bush I. Powell was just one of dozens of Pentagon political generals of no particular distinction, obviously chosen by Bush I to be chairman of the Joint-Chiefs because he was black, as a PC sop to black voters. The gesture gained Bush no traction among black voters, and did Powell no good, either, as he was immediately labelled as an "Uncle Tom".
Why is it that Islamic apostates have much more realistic views on the threat of Political Islam than our political, intellectual and military leaders?
Read the Qur'an and understand that - “We have to defend ourselves.”
Ebonystone,
In addition to the points you raised, it also must be pointed out that in the deliberations leading up to 'Desert Storm' in the Bush White House, Powell was a consistent advocate of "letting sanctions work". How ironic that he was subsequently hailed as such a great military leader.
If Powell had had his way, Saddam would never have been expelled from Kuwait.
Wafa Sulta is far from alone, I too was deeply troubled by the comments of a man I had come to admire over the past twenty years, a man that I would have voted for in a heart beat for president if he chose to campaign for the job. Why has this understanding of Islam escaped General Powell after all these years? Was it that he has spent to much time being coddled by the elites of the Islamic World, always being subjected to the charming conversations of the various leaders of these Muslim countries? was it that he has sadly excepted gifts from the Saudis as has the antisemetic Former President Jimmy Carter when Rudy Guilliani turned them down from the same Saudi? I thought that Colin Powell clearly understood the risks of President Bush making the decision to go into Iraq after he viewed it as a potential civil war building in the country, Saddam or no Saddam in charge in his Powell Doctrine. But he was the good soldier when President Bush along with Scowcroft,Cheney, and Rumsfeld overruled the former top military commander and where convinced that Iraq would be a cake walk. Still even for Powell there exists this naive knowledge of the scourge that is political Islam. I thought he may have read enough of the jihadist versus in the Quran, the espousing surahs, and hadiths that should have been thoroughly inculcated into his views of Islam, but it appears we where wrong.
Here we stand as Wafa Sultan does feeling lost and misguided by are elected leaders who have gotten the ear,and been wined dined by these propagators of deception, and lies and somehow we find them looking through rose colored glasses at the Islam they perceive. The blind leading the blind again and again. Did they read Bat Yeor? If not it should be mandatory.
Wafa Sultan you are far from alone my brave friend
Here is an art project for Fawstin, perhaps, or even for gravenimage, or perhaps for aspiring photography portraitists among us...
Who will consider doing a series of classic portraits of The Defectors from Islam, The Apostates?
Imagine a gallery with the faces of Taslima Nasreen, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Magdi Cristiano Allam, Patrick Sookhdeo (in the full ceremonial get-up of an Anglican Canon), Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Daniel Shayesteh with his wife and daughters, Abdul Rahman (the Afghan who converted to Christianity), and (I am sure) so many, many others.
I think it would make a very arresting book, if one included, with the paintings or photographs, a personal statement by each of the people concerned - e.g. Ms Sultan's article as posted here today, or Nonie Darwish's speech at Berkeley in 2007.
Those who - with or without divine assistance as a Christian would see it, fight their way free of Islam, deprogram themselves, even in a sense exorcise themselves - are remarkable people.
One thing I have noticed is that none of them wastes words. They spent so many years trapped inside the madhouse, the hall of mirrors that is Islam, where anyone can say anything, where reality is ignored, where denial andlies are nested within lies, that they seem - having escaped that labyrinth - to take a positive relish in the saying of That Which Is. Their pleasure in saying something that is TRUE, and saying it well, shines out of every sentence.
As does their deep anxiety for the preservation of the haven - the world of light and life - that they have found, and which they now see mortally threatened by the monster from which they thought they had escaped.
Colin Powell isn't alone. The entire West, predominantly christian, never cared much about Islam and its doctrine. "oh.. it is one of Abraham's faith" is all that West read into Islam [Recall Pope's words about Islam and Muslims].
Nor, the West saw any reason to be alarmed by incidents of clashes between Muslims and non-Muslims elsewhere in the world, especially in Asia/Africa. Why?.. because those far-off places didn't "touch" the West.
Has West really cared about the Islamic doctrine of TERROR, it would have taken Pakistan, the fountain-head of Islam, to task.
The ex-Muslims gave the most authentic account of Islam and its doctrine. The West, which has moved beyond Church and evolved into a free world was caught up in the whirlpool of it's various freedoms and liberties. The west became so liberal that it allowed and IS allowing, rather stupidly, the 7th-century totalitarian Islam to make inroads into their lands. Islam - which rejected Christianity totally as a false religion - theologically, spiritually, politically and in every other way.
It is NOT Islam that is to be blamed, but, the West that has extended reach of Islam beyond the area of influence. Even now, West continues to extend "Human-Rights" to mujaheddin - the army of Islam. So much for the humane face of West and Christianity!
Don't blame Islam for what West is doing, PLEASE.
The predicament of Wafa Sultan has to be viewed in this backdrop. As some commentators have called her, she, indeed, is a real hero!
Even while "war-president" Bush was engaged in the phony "war-on-terror", where allies are terrorists themselves, Wafa Sultan noted that Bush was empowering terror:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52962
Wafa Sultan came to the U.S. and fell in love with it - in spite of the early horrible teaching she received in Syria grade school. Does anyone know exactly what and why this remarkable conversion came about? Her prose is breathtakingly powerful. Her understanding of the situation stellar. Hey out there, can someone send her article to Colin Powell?
Wafa Sultan came to the U.S. and fell in love with it - in spite of the early horrible teaching she received in Syria grade school. Does anyone know exactly what and why this remarkable conversion came about? Her prose is breathtakingly powerful. Her understanding of the situation stellar. Hey out there, can someone send her article to Colin Powell?
angryamerican: I heard Wafa speak when she came to Australia earlier this year 'under the radar' and her conversion seemed to come about simply by watching and listening. She saw men standing back to let women walk through doors they'd opened for them, she saw and heard men listening to and taking seriously the conversations/ideas the women were putting to them. WHen a Jewish woman at the kindy where Wafa's daughter was enrolled wanted to give the little girl a gift, Wafa was horrified and refused this, believing that Jews were wicked and evil. She says that incident is now a deep shame in her, but that's the level of the hateful indoctrination she'd undergone.
Every British and American Newspaper, TV, and radio editorial staff should receive copies of Wafa Sultan's brilliant article.
Posted by Willis Page
There are literally hundreds of generals/admirals in the military. Anyone familiar with their capabilities can see that Powell is utterly mediocre among them in personality, knowledge and competence. That's still saying a lot, but it ain't saying all the overblown things said about him. He was a C student at a marginal school, an average infantryman in Nam before it had heated up for America, and a decent organizational leader with a reassuring commmand voice. That ain't no four star material. That's one star at most, when he's up against A students from the academies, the Ivy League, etc. who often had far more combat and command experience. Powell is a perfect example of someone promoted beyond his competence level due to affirmative action. He's been being exposed for years now with his silly/poor statements and actions.
l have the most respect and admiration of a person such as Wafa Sultan, where as Colin Powell he is noting more than a spoiled man child such as BO will prove to be.
For darcy's eyes only:
http://www.bible.ca/catholic-pope-kissing-koran.jpg
Warning: you may need psychological treatment after seeing this image.
Posted by: Hermit at December 16, 2008 6:29 PM
How horrible.
Here's who needs psychological treatment - the West.
"He was a C student at a marginal school"
-- from a posting above
I don't know how Powell did in college, nor if it should count for much -- there are many people who are as mindless on this matter as Powell, but who have done splendidly, been straight-A students, at the so-called best schools. And besides, Colin Powell did attend a very good high school -- the Bronx High School of Science -- that is, until he flunked out.
But that's not the main point. The point is that Powell speaks with assuranceon a matter -- Islam -- that he obviously has not studied, and in doing so, he relies on ancedotal evidence (that photograph) to make assumpations about Islam based on a mother's grief, and a handful of Muslims who have enrolled in the American military (I am excluding Black Muslims, who are a special case), and who as a result have not been lionized by other Muslims but rather ostracized. Compare, for example, the highly-decorated regiment (442, I think) of Japanese-Americans and the much that was made of them by other Japanese-Americans at home or, for example, the proud displays in barbershops and shops in Little Italies all over the country, displaying front and center photographs of uniformed boys from the area who were fighting -- in the Pacific Theatre, or the Euroepan. That is what counts: celebration and pride in one case, ostracism (even worries about physical security) in the case of the nearly-infinitesmal group of American (Non-Black) Muslims who have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, which tells us a good deal about loyalties, the inculcated, highest and even sole loyalty, to Islam and fellow Muslims, and the nearly non-existent loyalty to an Infidel nation-state if that nation-state is seen to be fighting Muslims or Islam.
Colin Powell merely expressed the sentimentlaity and feel-bood banalities of the age, but this kind of thing can be fond all over Official Washington, and elsewhere too, and among those who were good students at schools that are so good at marketing their own presumed prestige. Wafa Sultan knows about Islam, has grown up within Islam, and in America discovered a different world, and so she asks Powell, rhetorically and sweetly, on what basis he does so. I made the same point in the piece I posted here in October, in immediate response to Powell, but did so in an unsweetend version. Wafa Sultan supplied the sweetened one. The menu here offers everything.
Look, I am very conscious of the dangers of an anti-western Islamic take-over in the United States. But in America, to hold one religion or one ethnic group to special consideration, be it for the good or for the evil, is against our mores and traditions. If Muslims are held in disregard, why not Catholics, or Jews, or whatever religion is out of favor at the moment. I am old enough to remember hearing "if a Catholic is elected president the Pope and his legions will be here to take over the country." We must be extremely careful not to let that sentiment or a similar one become our mind set.
I firmly believe immigrants must adapt to the culture, not the reverse. That being said, I do not want to become like England and make special accommodations i.e. no guide dogs because they might offend Muslims. In the end, if we are to remain Americans one American must be treated exactly like any other American or we have lost.
Halle Berry named her daughter "Nahla" either because it means "gift" in Swahili or because she doesn't know what it means and that's the name of the girl lion in "the Lion King."
Later in the article Dr. Sultan wrote:
After the events of September 11th, I watched a press conference with an American general whose name I can no longer recall. In the course of the conference, he shared that he had read the Koran twice. One of the reporters asked him, “What conclusion did you reach after you had read it?” He bowed his head for a moment before replying, “We have to defend ourselves.”
I wish I knew who said that. When I google it all I come up with is this article.
Hermit, are you Arab? I have to ask because you wrote "most probably." I have never heard anyone but FOB Arabs use that expression, the same ones who try to sound tough by talking like Oliver Twist. It just struck me as very, very weird.
Bravo Wafa!
The world needs more gals with the like tempers of Wafa, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Oriana Fallaci (r.i.p.), Talisma Nasrin and all other good heads. Wake up men!
"However, Salafists interpret even daily events in a way that may not necessarily appear significant to Westerners. In this context some Islamists go so far as viewing the Islamic background of Obama as a heaven-sent confirmation of the first step in realizing the dream of submitting the West to Islam. The mere fact that American president bears a Muslim name like Hussein is enough to assure them that Islam is marching into America and has already infiltrated the White House."
It takes someone who grew up in the opressive Muslim mindset to comprehend the real problem with Obama's election. It doesn't matter what his true beliefs are. I suspect that he doesn't have any; he joins a Black liberation theology Christian sect with a rabidly anti-American pastor, only to throw his reverend-uncle under the bus when required for political expediency. The real problem is that his mere election will raise the morale and provide encouragement to the 7th century atavists worldwide.
Bravo Wafa!
The world needs more gals with the like tempers of Wafa, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Oriana Fallaci (r.i.p.), Talisma Nasrin and all other good heads. Wake up men!
Posted by: Platypus at December 17, 2008 8:55 AM
Actually, since she's female, it's "Brava Wafa!"
And you're so right about all the "gals," including Taslima Nasrin, who speak their minds about the horrors of Islam! Don't forget Nonie Darwish and Brigitte Gabriel!
"I firmly believe immigrants must adapt to the culture, not the reverse. That being said, I do not want to become like England and make special accommodations i.e. no guide dogs because they might offend Muslims. In the end, if we are to remain Americans one American must be treated exactly like any other American or we have lost.
Posted by: eneri at December 17, 2008 8:14 AM
I agree with you, eneri.
America must remain America. If someone can't adapt to American culture, they better stay away.
By the way, I'm no American.
If Muslims are held in disregard, why not Catholics, or Jews, or whatever religion is out of favor at the moment."
-- from a poster above
What an absurd remark. Islam is not like these other faiths called religions. It purports to, and does, offer a politics and a geopolitics. Jihad, in its primary meaning, is all about land -- the taking over, or dominating, of large land areas, by Islam, and the imposition of rule by Muslims, and -- ideally -- of the Shari'a. Just because this or that faith is called a "religion" does not make it equivalent - this is the mistake of the sentimental, the lazy, the weak-minded, for whom All Religions Are The Same and People Are The Same The Whole World Over. It's nonsense.
Simply replace your word "Muslims" to create variants that will put into relief (bas or haut, take your pick) the silliness of the remark. E.g.: "if Communists are held in disregard, why not Democrats or Republicans" or "if Nazis are held in disregard, why not Freemasons"?
Furthermore, that phrase you use about "whatever religion is out of favor at the moment" is an equally idiotic way to refer to Islam, which is hardly "out of favor" despite the most fantastic crimes committed by Muslims, against Infidels, everywhere in the world, and which show no signs of letting up. It is not a question of Islam being in or out of favor; it is, rather, a question of Infidels learning about the contents and meaning of Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, and relating the perceived behavior of Muslims, today and over the past 1350 years, wherever Muslims have come into contact with, or lorded it over, non-Muslims, to the doctrines, the texts, the tenets, of Islam. This is not a matter, as you suggest, of simply passing fancy, some kind of temporary aberration. Islam is not out of favor enough, but as the doctrines and practice of Islam are more and more understood, it will be.
Can somebody give a hint to the long legged Mack Daddy and tell him that he really should consider giving Wafa a high position in national security?
Maybe we can start a petition before it is too late.
Dumbledore's Army wrote:
Here is an art project for Fawstin, perhaps, or even for gravenimage, or perhaps for aspiring photography portraitists among us...
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Dumbledore's Army--wow. I have been casting around for some time--far longer than is seemly, given the urgency of the matter--for a project I could do that would be useful in the stand against Jihad.
Last year, when cartoonists Cox and Forkum were unable at the last moment to commemorate the winners of the JW awards, I did offer my services. David Washburn did the final image--he is a much better charicaturist than I am. I hope he does the honors again this year.
And of course, Bosch Fawstin has his powerful "Pigman" comic.
more:
Who will consider doing a series of classic portraits of The Defectors from Islam, The Apostates?
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Maybe something larger, like "Heroes Against Jihad"? We could include other stalwarts, such as Oriana Fallaci, Pamela Geller, Dr. Daniel Pipes, Mark Steyn, and of course Robert Spencer, perhaps each with a pithy quote from their work. Historic figures might be worth including, as well.
more:
Imagine a gallery with the faces of Taslima Nasreen, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Magdi Cristiano Allam, Patrick Sookhdeo (in the full ceremonial get-up of an Anglican Canon), Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Daniel Shayesteh with his wife and daughters, Abdul Rahman (the Afghan who converted to Christianity), and (I am sure) so many, many others.
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The only caveat I would include here is that I would only feature images of the bravest--those whose faces are known. Many apostates, because of the threat of violence, are intent on keeping a low profile. I believe, for instance, that Abdul Rahman falls into this category. In addition, some people want to keep their families safe, so I would be a bit leery of including images of an apostate's family.
In any case, DDA, this is, I think, a fantastic idea. I'll see if I can do some work-ups by the new year.
THANK YOU HUGH for your answer to eneri! I knew his/her viewpoint was skewed, but I couldn't express my disagreement as well as you do.
eneri -
"If Muslims are held in disregard, why not Catholics, or Jews, or whatever religion is out of favor at the moment."
I am going to assume you are new to this site.
Where do we see followers of Catholicism or Judaism or any other religion doing what the followers of Islam are doing, as far as violence, threats of violence, intimidation and all the rest?
And that would be because no other religion has the teachings that Islam has.
JEWCAT! Thanks for the brief about our heroine Wafa Sultan.
angryamerican/JEWCAT
Sultan stated that she was shocked into secularism by the 1979 atrocities committed by Islamic extremists of the Muslim Brotherhood against innocent Syrian people, including the machine-gun assassination of her professor, Yusef al Yusef, an ophthalmologist renowned beyond Syria, in her classroom in front of her eyes at the University of Aleppo where she was a medical student. "They shot hundreds of bullets into him, shouting, 'God is great!' " she said. "At that point, I lost my trust in their god and began to question all our teachings. It was the turning point of my life, and it has led me to this present point. I had to leave. I had to look for another god."
It would be great to have an online gallery for artists to express how they feel about the mounting threat of Islam. If any of you who can do websites know of one or will make one let me know at maunalioart@aol.com
To: eneri
You cannot treat every American exactly the same because your Immigration Department has given green cards and citizenships to some people who don't agree with your principles. They lied when they were sworn in because they are loyal to Islam, Quran and sharia. They are not loyal to the country, flag or Constitution. They are not here to assimilate but they are here to conquer by any strategy or deception. They are compelled to do this by the Quran and the example of the Prophet. If you treat them all the same then you have lost because they will use your system against you. You give them the freedom to beat you. They will give you the freedom to submit, convert or die.
To: kokamal
We must blame Islam/Mohammad/Quran. These three don't deny their purpose and they are not apologizing for their attempt to dominate the world. Some Muslims may not understand what they were born into but Mohammad knew what he was doing. Blame the West for being ignorant, uneducated and asleep. But stop blaming the victims. The West is not the same as the elected officials of the West. They deserve blame for taking the blood/oil money and betraying their own people. Bush took the money. Cheney got super-rich. Powell took the Jaguar and whatever else we don't know. Clinton took the donations. They are not suffering but the American people are suffering for their betrayal. Don't forget Condolezza Rice.
The Muslims who commit terrorist acts do not deny what they have done. 911, London buses, Spanish trains, Mumbai, etc. They are proud of what they have done because they are being good Muslims following the Quran and Mohammad. They are celebrated for their deeds. They danced in the streets of their countries while Americans cried for 911. Don't apologize for Islam or Muslims. Don't deny them their glory. They earned it.
I wish the best for USA and Canada in their struggle against Islam. I would like to live in a better country one day.
jamaicaninfidel,
"I wish the best for USA and Canada in their struggle against Islam. I would like to live in a better country one day."
What exactly USA and Canada is doing in their struggle against Islam? Is allowing shari'a, hijab, Islamic Personal Law and Muslims [with their loyalty to none other than Allah, Muhammed "prophet" and Qur'an AND JIHAD] in their free world is struggle?
You call that struggle against Islam?
Posterity will call it criminal dereliction of their duty.