A tooth for a tooth
Last March al-Sadr said: “I have failed to liberate Iraq, and transform its society into an Islamic society.” But he has not given up. The theology of jihad doesn't allow him to give up.
"Iraq: Cleric urges 'revenge operations' over Gaza," from AP, January 7 (thanks to Sr. Soph):
NAJAF, Iraq – Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on the Iraqi resistance Wednesday to stage "revenge operations" against American forces to protest Israel's Gaza offensive.The statement issued by his office in the Shiite holy city of Najaf came as criticism is mounting over civilian deaths in Gaza.
The State Department dismissed al-Sadr's calls, describing them as "outrageous."
"Any call for attacks against Americans is outrageous and, frankly, not worthy of much more comment," deputy State Department spokesman Robert Wood told reporters. "Outside calls to attack Americans for what's going on in the region are outrageous."
Al-Sadr also urged that Palestinian flags to be raised on mosques, churches and buildings in Iraq in a show of solidarity and that all countries close Israeli embassies.
The cleric issued a statement last month calling for protests, and his followers have complied with rallies against the offensive.
But he said more steps are needed "due to the continuation of Arab silence and the massacres committed by the Zionist enemy under U.S. and international cover."
"I call upon the honest Iraqi resistance to carry out revenge operations against the great accomplice of the Zionist enemy," he said, using rhetoric referring to the United States and Israel....
If that fatso were funny, he could be on the next cover of Mad magazine... The picture caption is damn funny though.
Why doesn't this guy strap on a vest? "Hey Al, the virgins are waiting, blow yourself up already."
Walterc, Pat Condell once said that it was really ironic that such clerics never blew themselves up but kept "selflessly" urging their followers to do it, so they could get on a fast track to meeting the 72 virgins and the boys that look like well-hidden pearls.
Indeed, such selflessness on their part is really touching...
Breaking news...........
Israel Dismantles; World's Problems End
Persistent rhetoric coming from concerned progressive critics worldwide has finally convinced Israeli officials that the state of Israel has no moral right to exist. "That's it," Prime Minister Ariel Sharon explained at a press conference. "We are dismantling the Nation of Israel. I'm leaving for Poland next week."
"My cabinet and I had long discussions about world troubles, and we concluded that our critics are right - all the troubles can be traced back to us. So, in order to resolve these issues, we felt it would be best to extend our withdrawal beyond Gaza to include the West Bank and Israel proper," Sharon said. "The Gaza pullout was only a test, and the ensuing waves of peace and brotherhood it had triggered in Palestine and beyond, encouraged us to disband altogether. Without us here, people of the world will finally be able, once again, to live in permanent harmony and understanding - just like they all did before Israel's founding nearly sixty years ago."
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=307
It's a bit old. And then again......
At the microscale-level at which al-Sadr operates this is slightly OT, but at the macroscale Stratfor's contextual analysis on the Israel/Hamas conflict is interesting. From this it would appear al-Sadr isn't even a player. Does anyone know anything about the authors Bokhari and Bhalla?
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January 7, 2009
By Kamran Bokhari and Reva Bhalla
Fatah, Hamas and the Struggle for the PNA
Israeli-Palestinian Geopolitics and the Peace Process
Israel is now in the 12th day of carrying out Operation Cast Lead against the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas in the Gaza Strip, where Hamas has been the de facto ruler ever since it seized control of the territory in a June 2007 coup. The Israeli campaign, whose primary military aim is to neutralize Hamas’ ability to carry out rocket attacks against Israel, has led to the reported deaths of more than 560 Palestinians; the number of wounded is approaching the 3,000 mark.
The reaction from the Arab world has been mixed. On the one hand, a look at the so-called Arab street will reveal an angry scene of chanting protesters, burning flags and embassy attacks in protest of Israel’s actions. The principal Arab regimes, however, have either kept quiet or publicly condemned Hamas for the crisis — while privately often expressing their support for Israel’s bid to weaken the radical Palestinian group.
Despite the much-hyped Arab nationalist solidarity often cited in the name of Palestine, most Arab regimes actually have little love for the Palestinians. While these countries like keeping the Palestinian issue alive for domestic consumption and as a tool to pressure Israel and the West when the need arises, in actuality, they tend to view Palestinian refugees — and more Palestinian radical groups like Hamas — as a threat to the stability of their regimes.
One such Arab country is Saudi Arabia. Given its financial power and its shared religious underpinnings with Hamas, Riyadh traditionally has backed the radical Palestinian group. The kingdom backed a variety of Islamist political forces during the 1960s and 1970s in a bid to undercut secular Nasserite Arab nationalist forces, which threatened Saudi Arabia’s regional status. But 9/11, which stemmed in part from Saudi support for the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan, opened Riyadh’s eyes to the danger of supporting militant Islamism.
Thus, while Saudi Arabia continued to support many of the same Palestinian groups, it also started whistling a more moderate tune in its domestic and foreign policies. As part of this moderate drive, in 2002 King Abdullah offered Israel a comprehensive peace treaty whereby Arab states would normalize ties with the Jewish state in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to its 1967 borders. Though Israel rejected the offer, the proposal itself clearly conflicted with Hamas’ manifesto, which calls for Israel’s destruction. The post-9/11 world also created new problems for one of Hamas’ sources of regular funding — wealthy Gulf Arabs — who grew increasingly wary of turning up on the radars of Western security and intelligence agencies as fund transfers from the Gulf came under closer scrutiny.
Meanwhile, Egypt, which regularly mediates Hamas-Israel and Hamas-Fatah matters, thus far has been the most vocal in its opposition to Hamas during the latest Israeli military offensive. Cairo has even gone as far as blaming Hamas for provoking the conflict. Though Egypt’s stance has earned it a number of attacks on its embassies in the Arab world and condemnations in major Arab editorial pages, Cairo has a core strategic interest in ensuring that Hamas remains boxed in. The secular government of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is already preparing for a shaky leadership transition, which is bound to be exploited by the country’s largest opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood (MB).
The MB, from which Hamas emerged, maintains links with the Hamas leadership. Egypt’s powerful security apparatus has kept the MB in check, but the Egyptian group has steadily built up support among Egypt’s lower and middle classes, which have grown disillusioned with the soaring rate of unemployment and lack of economic prospects in Egypt. The sight of Muslim Brotherhood activists leading protests in Egypt in the name of Hamas is thus quite disconcerting for the Mubarak regime. The Egyptians also are fearful that Gaza could become a haven for Salafist jihadist groups that could collaborate with Egypt’s own jihadist node the longer Gaza remains in disarray under Hamas rule.
Of the Arab states, Jordan has the most to lose from a group like Hamas. More than three-fourths of the Hashemite monarchy’s people claim Palestinian origins. The kingdom itself is a weak, poor state that historically has relied on the United Kingdom, Israel and the United States for its survival. Among all Arab governments, Amman has had the longest and closest relationship with Israel — even before it concluded a formal peace treaty with Israel in 1994. In 1970, Jordan waged war against Fatah when the group posed a threat to the kingdom’s security; it also threw out Hamas in 1999 after fears that the group posed a similar threat to the stability of the kingdom. Like Egypt, Jordan also has a vibrant MB, which has closer ties to Hamas than its Egyptian counterpart. As far as Amman is concerned, therefore, the harder Israel hits Hamas, the better.
Finally, Syria is in a more complex position than these other four Arab states. The Alawite-Baathist regime in Syria has long been a pariah in the Arab world because of its support for Shiite Iran and for their mutual militant proxy in Lebanon, Hezbollah. But ever since the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, the Syrians have been charting a different course, looking for ways to break free from diplomatic isolation and to reach some sort of understanding with the Israelis.
For the Syrians, support for Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and several other radical Palestinian outfits provides tools of leverage to use in negotiating a settlement with Israel. Any deal between the Syrians and the Israelis would thus involve Damascus sacrificing militant proxies such as Hezbollah and Hamas in return for key concessions in Lebanon — where Syria’s core geopolitical interests lie — and in the disputed Golan Heights. While the Israeli-Syrian peace talks remain in flux, Syria’s lukewarm reaction to the Israeli offensive and restraint (thus far) from criticizing the more moderate Arab regimes’ lack of response suggests Damascus may be looking to exploit the Gaza offensive to improve its relations in the Arab world and reinvigorate its talks with Israel. And the more da mage Israel does to Hamas now, the easier it will be for Damascus to crack down on Hamas should the need arise.
With Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Syria taking into account their own interests when dealing with the Palestinians, ironically, the most reliable patron Sunni Hamas has had in recent years is Iran, the Sunni Arab world’s principal Shiite rival. Several key developments have made Hamas’ gradual shift toward Iran possible:
Saudi Arabia’s post-9/11 move into the moderate camp — previously dominated by Egypt and Jordan, two states that have diplomatic relations with Israel. The collapse of Baathist Iraq and the resulting rise of Shiite power in the region.
The 2004 Iranian parliamentary elections that put Iran’s ultraconservatives in power and the 2005 election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose public anti-Israeli views resonated with Hamas at a time when other Arab states had grown more moderate.
The 2006 Palestinian elections, in which Hamas defeated its secular rival, Fatah, by a landslide.
When endowed with the responsibility of running an unrecognized government, Hamas floundered between its goals of dominating the Palestinian political landscape and continuing to call for the destruction of Israel and the creation of an Islamist state. The Arab states, particularly Saudi Arabia and Egypt, had hoped that the electoral victory would lead Hamas to moderate its stance, but Iran encouraged Hamas to adhere to its radical agenda. As the West increasingly isolated the Hamas-led government, the group shifted more toward the Iranian position, which more closely meshed with its original mandate.
The 2006 summer military confrontation between Hezbollah and Israel, in which Iranian-backed Hezbollah symbolically defeated the Jewish state.
Hezbollah’s ability to withstand the Israeli military onslaught gave confidence to Hamas that it could emulate the Lebanese Shiite movement — which, like Hamas, was both a political party and an armed paramilitary organization. Similar to their reaction to the current Gaza offensive, the principal Arab states condemned Hezbollah for provoking Israel and grew terrified at the outpouring of support for the Shiite militant group from their own populations. Hezbollah-Hamas collaboration in training, arms-procurement and funding intensified, and almost certainly has played a decisive role in equipping Hamas with 122mm BM-21 Grad artillery rockets and larger Iranian-made 240mm Fajr-3 rockets — and potentially even a modest anti-armor capability.
The June 2007 Hamas coup against Fatah in the Gaza Strip, which caused a serious strain in relations between Egypt and Hamas. The resulting blockade on Gaza put Egypt in an extremely uncomfortable position, in which it had to crack down on the Gaza border, thus giving the MB an excuse to rally opposition against Cairo. Egypt was already uncomfortable with Hamas’ electoral victory, but it could not tolerate the group’s emergence as the unchallenged power in Gaza.
Syria’s decision to go public with peace talks with Israel. As soon as it became clear that Syria was getting serious about such negotiations, alarm bells went off within groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, which now had to deal with the fear that Damascus could sell them out at any time as part of a deal with the Israelis.
Hamas’ relations with the Arab states already were souring; its warming relationship with Iran has proved the coup de grace. Mubarak said it best when he recently remarked that the situation in the Gaza Strip “has led to Egypt, in practice, having a border with Iran.” In other words, Hamas has allowed Iranian influence to come far too close for the Arab states’ comfort.
In many ways, the falling-out between Hamas and the Arab regimes is not surprising. The decline of Nasserism in the late 1960s essentially meant the death of Arab nationalism. Even before then, the Arab states put their respective national interests ahead of any devotion to pan-Arab nationalism that would have translated into support for the Palestinian cause. As Islamism gradually came to replace Arab nationalism as a political force throughout the region, the Arab regimes became even more concerned about stability at home, given the very real threat of a religious challenge to their rule. While these states worked to suppress radical Islamist elements that had taken root in their countries, the Arab governments caught wind of Tehran’s attempts to adopt the region’s radical Islamist trend to create a geopolitical space for Iran in the Arab Middle East. As a result, the Arab-Persian struggle became one of the key drivers that has turned the Arab states against Hamas.
For each of these Arab states, Hamas represents a force that could stir the social pot at home — either by creating a backlash against the regimes for their ties to Israel and their perceived failure to aid the Palestinians, or by emboldening democratic Islamist movements in the region that could threaten the stability of both republican regimes and monarchies. With somewhat limited options to contain Iranian expansion in the region, the Arab states ironically are looking to Israel to ensure that Hamas remains boxed in. So, while on the surface it may seem that the entire Arab world is convulsing with anger at Israel’s offensive against Hamas, a closer look reveals that the view from the Arab palace is quite different from the view on the Arab street.
Smiley is showcasing Islamic dental science, I suppose.
This will be the same Muqtada al-Sadr that the British army made a deal with in Iraq? This will be the same Muqtada al-Sadr that the British bargained with keeping them out of conflict in Basra and supporting their American allies?
I have to say that as a Brit I found this action appalling and no doubt this came all the way from Westminster of course via Saudi Arabia.
I read even more harrowing news as well in the Times today about the British Armed Forces. Thanks to NuLabour they've managed to destroy them and are near to wrecking our close relationship with the USA.
It's heart breaking. Look at the UK under NuLabour/Communism/Socialism. They're destroying everything it is.
Funny how these "tough" Muslims soldiers can't overrun a tiny sliver of desert. They then blame it on American firepower that the Israelis have. Inside their feeble, primitive minds, I think most Muslim leadership (if that's what you can call them) realize that even if they owned what is now Israel, none of their problems would go away. Muslims wastelands still have no infrastructure, no education, and best of all -- no future.
And someone needs to get that assclown al-Sadr some al-toothpaste.
RtL, we Yanks are also dismayed at current trends in defense relations with Britain. What's your take on the Aussies? They, at least, seem to be making an effort at the governmental level to stem deterioration of civilizational loyalties.
"And someone needs to get that assclown al-Sadr some al-toothpaste." -- MiamiInfidel
That would be only for starters. He needs a lot more than that - teeth, barber, fashion stylist, exercise trainer, a brain transplant...
If that fatso were funny, he could be on the next cover of Mad magazine
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What, me worry?
Eastview,
The Aussies armed forces are brilliant. Of course that is down to being part of the 'Empire' but also down to the fact that Australia has always predominately remained Conservative. A Conservative government always makes sure it has a good Military. However, with Rudd now in charge(a Socialist) then expect to see funding for the Australian Armed forces drop.
The Australian SAS/SBS are on a par with the UK SAS/SBS. They are an excellent outfit.
We have to really ask dumbledoresarmy about the situation in Australia regarding "stemming deterioration of civilizational loyalties". I'm sure she'd be able to give a much better analysis than I.
One thing I respect about Australia is that the men in Australia are not like the Metrosexual saps we're currently breeding. They still have a lot of 'spunk'. The feminists in the UK would like to say that they're just misogynistic dinosaurs, but they're clearly men's men. Probably why they have some of the best sportsmen in the World.
All in all Australia is still quite right wing, but that's changing with Rudd as I've already stated.
They have managed to keep civil strife down, but I feel that Rudd will change all that. Let's see what dumbledoresarmy has to say on the subject like I said.
Eastview,
I would like to add however that we still have some of the best, if not the best Armed Forces in the World. Let us not also forget that it was the UK that came to the aid of the USA before any other Nation. Our children died in Afghanistan and Iraq as have yours and Britain has made a far greater sacrifice than any other Nation in the Allied coalition.
Our poor show was down to Nulabour - end of.
Like their government in the 70's they too started to disband British Regiments that have seen hundred of years service. They have also amalgamated regiments together as well. They have drastically cut the defence budgets. The treatment of Armed personnel in the UK has been abysmal. I have already mentioned that Soldiers in uniform have been banned from Al Fayed's Harrods as well as hospitals so as not to offend minorities/immigrants. Armed forces barracks have are run down and their pay is pathetic. Recently soldiers were spat on and attacked by 'British citizens' in Peterborough.
NuLabour has been calling all the shots in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are destroying the Armed Forces in order to create one big EU Army, open all borders into the amalgamation of an EU Supranation, which in the future will include North African and Middle Eastern Islamic Countries. In other words Eurabia.
The British troops are still the best trained in the World, but I won't deny that the standards are dropping. What do you expect after I've said all of the above? Brits don't want to join up and instead foreigners are in order to gain British citizenship. The UK really is f*cked and I'm talking at all levels/Establishments.
His wives are lucky women.
/cough cough
Smiley is showcasing Islamic dental science, I suppose.
Posted by: RalphInfidel
They use a "miswaq" or cleaning stick.
http://www.dar-us-salam.com/store/main.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G09
I'll bet his breath is like an open grave.
What he needs is home delivery of a tomahawk missile. He has needed it for a long time. I'm glad none of my kids are serving in Iraq.
" I call upon the honest Iraqi resistance to carry out revenge operations against the great accomplice of the Zionist enemy."
Uhh...That would be us I'm guessin'.
" A tooth for a tooth.."
Not an even trade in this case..do you have any nice chickens?
If Iraqis heed Sadr's call, and Americans start dieing as a result, it's time to get out. If the people of Iraq can't make a distinction between freedom and tyrany, why are we even there?
Let the Clerics have the country, let them impose their Sharia law on the Iraqi people. We've lead this horse to water, if it doesn't want to drink, let it die of thrist.
It would have been more accurate if Kipling said that "Islam is Islam, and Christiandom is Christiandom, and never the twine shall meet."
Too bad we couldn't figure that out before we injected ourselves into the Muslim world. It would have saved us a lot of lives and treasure.
And if the American people think that their new Messiah, Obama, has figured it out, they'd better think again. He's just one more ideologue, infected with the ideology of Jeremiah Wrightism, and that means a lot of wrong-headed policies ahead.
RtL, Many thanks for your comments. What you say rings true about both the Aussies and the Brits. Banning uniformed soldiers from entering Herrods is insulting and execrable. I'll bet they allow hijabs, niqabs, burqas and fully bearded/robed/turbaned jihadists in though, right? How does Herrods get away with this? We love you guys and it pains us beyond words to watch what's going because of irresponsible wholesale importation of Pakis into the UK. The other European peoples are struggling with their own versions of these same problems, of course, and we see signs of creeping shariah starting to appear here and in Canada. Hopefully the power of historically sanctioned, culture-rooted nation-states will outlast the efforts at destruction by the multicultural idiots.
DDA's posts on this forum are priceless. I wonder why she isn't a member of the Australian Parliament?
rational ,
The "messiah" is not going to be any help.
He has appointed Leon Panetta as head of the CIA.
I heard an agent say this morning (On FNC)that Panetta is a "firewall" between BHO and the CIA. So, Panetta is to protect Obama against the "company".
The CIA may very well be stripped down again, ala Carter.
"Panetta is a "firewall" between BHO and the CIA" -- FNC quote from interestinconundrum.
I caught that, too, and was left scratching my head. How was this intended to be interpreted, and how, in fact, will it be interpreted.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/01/07/ST2009010701444.html
Several of Panetta's former White House colleagues also said yesterday that he appreciated and engaged in national security issues during the Clinton years.
In a clear reference to harsh interrogation policies, including waterboarding, that were used against CIA terrorism detainees, Obama said his team would be "committed to breaking with some of the past practices and concerns that have, I think, tarnished the image of . . . the intelligence agencies as well as U.S. foreign policy."
Oh hell, we wouldn't want to tarnish images now would we?
Substitute "." with "?" at the end of my last post.
Eastview,
You're very welcome. The treatment of our soldiers is nothing less that deplorable. You are correct that they do allow all manner of islamic wear into Harrods, just not British soldiers. Mohammed Al Fayed should have been booted out of the UK before he got in. It was also despicable that Princess Diana went out with his offspring too. she was an idiot anyway, born with a silver spoon in her mouth and yet expected people to pity her? Anyway, I'm drifting.
Just to show you how pathetic the situation is with Islam, you are not allowed to walk into a bank with your face covered if you are a Non Muslim as it's against the law. All bike helmets must be removed. However it's ok for Muslims.
A couple of years back a Muslim woman was granted to have her picture taken for her licence in her Burka. can you believe that? In her burka!!!
Britain is going through this problem because of NuLabour and the Conservativism, or should I say, those who masquerade as Conservatives when they are merely Social Democrats, equivalent to what Labour were in the 80's. I just wish Guy Fawkes came back to life and blew up Parliament. We need serious change here in the UK.
I can see that Sharia and Islamism is beginning to infect Canada. It's a sad shame but at least it isn't as bad as here.
Islam is spreading throughout the Western World like a cancer and unless something is done now it'll get awful. Don't get me wrong, any measures taken against Islam will result in awfulness, but far better now to stop it for good than to allow it to grow and attain yet more power and influence in the moronic left wing.
DDA's posts are excellent and she should run for election. In fact there are quite a few on here who should in their respective countries.
We should start a JihadWatch political Party in order to stop islamisation of the West. Now that would be something!
As regards Australia: I can't speak except for what I personally know.
First observation: across Australia, volunteer groups like the State Emergency Services, Bush Fire Brigade (on urban fringe and everywhere across the countryside) and Surf Life Savers (mostly male; they do also train females since after all, to perform first aid and CPR doesn't require strength but a cool head) are very strong and thriving; they don't seem to be at a loss for new recruits. These groups require fitness, courage, fast thinking and cooperation; they provide a healthy outlet and channel for male energies, and training to boot. My husband and older son owe their lives to the Surf Lifesavers who got them out of trouble on a dangerous beach.
The skills guys learn there are skills that could translate into homeland defence if needed. My younger brother (age 34; wife and four kids; settled on the home farm) is in the local Bush Fire Brigade. They don't just train how to deal with bush fires (Americans: read 'forest fires') - he told us they are also being taught general emergency response procedures, including what to do about terrorist attacks. I gave him a copy of Spencer's PIG to Islam and the Crusades; when I did, he said something that made me realize he's already got Islam pegged as a threat.
The sort of heroism Aussies admire: during the Bali Bombing, four teenage Aussie boys, members of a surfing club, saved the lives of forty other people trapped at the back of the nightclub, by quick thinking, strength and working together (faced with a wall no-one could vault alone, they boosted a couple of their own up and over then proceeded to grab the other fugitives and 'pass the parcel' - up the wall, across, and away to safety). These weren't big, impressive, macho looking guys; they were just stronger and smarter than they looked and they could work together.
Our RSL (Returned Servicemen's League) is very active and the old blokes (including WWII survivors, Korean War veterans, Vietnam veterans) are welcoming and looking after the younger blokes who have come out of Iraq, etc. So far as I know, our returning servicemen are not despised or abused after they come home in the way that, as you report in your posting above, some British servicemen have been.
I can attest from personal experience that our ANZAC day memorial ceremonies and parades, as also our Remembrance Day events, are well-attended and that attendance at same has been increasing, not decreasing - enough that some observers have expressed surprise. In April 2008 I went along to the local suburban Anzac march and service and the general public turned out in droves - all ages from elderly to families with babies in strollers. I suspect that subconsciously, if not consciously, Aussies know we are in a really big war and that our soldiers are important.
Just recently I read that the Australian Defence Forces were being inundated with people wanting to join up; so many they were able to take their pick. It should be noted, BTW, that Aboriginal (black) Australians have always been well represented in the army.
We're a funny mob. We don't actually like or glorify war qua war; as witness the fact that ANZAC day recalls a military disaster; but at bottom we're realists, we can see that sometimes you just have to fight or go under. Our rep at the UN, when we were proposing to go into East Timor, moved heaven and earth to get authorisation to use deadly force; because she (yes, she) could see quite clearly that if our troops weren't free to shoot to kill, the whole exercise would be perfectly useless.
Personally - and when I say this, I say it as the wife of a city-dwelling churchgoing husband in his 40s who has never had to fire a shot in anger in his entire life and who has never been in a fight in his life, and I say it as a mother of two sons aged 18 and 8 - I would like to see some form of National Service, analogous to that which applies in Switzerland, Israel and Singapore (perhaps borrowing the best of all three), instituted again in this country, but with the focus grimly and strictly upon homeland defence. The discipline and cool head my dad learned in *his* national service stint, actually kept him out of unnecessary fights all his life.
There's the loud 'in your face' Ocker/ Steve Irwin/ Crocodile Dundee Aussie; but the other kind of Aussie man is quiet but deadly, the Quiet Achiever who uses his brains as well as his brawn. Who will fight like hell if he needs to, but only if he needs to. If you want to meet him, read Ion L Idriess' books 'The Desert Column' and 'Horrie the Wog Dog' (both based on war diaries of serving Aussie soldiers, the first from WWI, the second from WWII). Or look up Major Cosgrove.
I think both ideals are strongly enough embedded in our national psyche that they won't disappear in a hurry.
Dumbledoresarmy,
I believe that what the Australians have in their psyche is the same as what the British 'used' to have and that is pride in their fellow countrymen and Country. You will know that the British used to be known as the 'Bulldog Breed'.
I've worked with many Australians and New Zealanders and they are polite and respectable people. Your story rings true about the different types of Australians the Crocodile Dundees and the quiet ones.
We used to have that but it's dying. It is dying because of Socialism and Radical Feminism. Men just aren't allowed to be men anymore and have to be in touch with their feminine side. I am constantly, she sleeps next to me at night!
I think Islam will have a tough job in Australia but as I've always said, unless the growth of Islam is immediately stopped and drastically reduced then they will win by mere population growth.
Posted by interestinconundrum:
They use a "miswaq" or cleaning stick.
I'll bet his breath is like an open grave.
I'll bet your right; it would fit his persona.
I checked out the link you posted, and it does look like quite a medical achievement; a stick in shrink wrap. And I thought he was just using his left hand.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3652540,00.html
Israel slams cardinal's 'concentration camp' jibe
Foreign Ministry says Vatican official's remarks that Gaza is increasingly resembling Nazi camp 'seem to be based on Hamas propaganda'
AFP Published: 01.07.09, 23:44 / Israel News
Israel on Wednesday slammed a senior Vatican official for comparing the Gaza Strip to a "concentration camp," saying the comments were "based on Hamas propaganda."
"Making remarks that seem to be based on Hamas propaganda while ignoring its numerous crimes ... does not bring the people closer to truth and peace," foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told AFP.
Cardinal Renato Martino, the Vatican's justice and peace minister, was quoted by the online Italian daily Il Sussidiario as saying the conditions in Gaza "increasingly resemble a big concentration camp."
On Tuesday Pope Benedict XVI said he wanted to encourage efforts to get Israelis and Palestinians to sit down together in peace talks over the Gaza conflict. Benedict was speaking to pilgrims and tourists in St. Peter's Square.
The pope said he was following the news of the armed clashes in Gaza with "strong worry." He repeated his warning that hate and rejection of dialogue only lead to war.
Benedict added he is encouraging all efforts and initiatives by those who want peace, and who are trying to help Israelis and Palestinians to sit down and talk. The Vatican has said the pope would like to go the Holy Land on a pilgrimage this spring, but no concrete plans have been made.
He looks so proud of his straw hole.
Wild Jew,
Let's face it, the Vatican knows very well that if it doesn't tow the Muslim line, Christians will face slaughter in the Muslim world. They know better than anyone what Christian's have to live with in the Islamic world, and they, like Christian leaders of all denominations, are all to willing to sacrifie their intellectual and moral integrity out of self-interest.
Richard
here's one of our fallen soldiers: 100 % Jewish and 100 % Australian...
http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=6878
"A tooth for a tooth"
I laughed at this for a good 5 minutes.
Caption of the Year '08
You're suppose to pray by banging your forehead to the ground, not your mouth. What a maroon.
A message to Al Sadr, find a big piece of cucumber and stick it deep behind you until it hutrs.
RtL
I think we should make it clear that it's not the British people who are attacking our soldiers! After all, those attacks took place in the West Midlands, which must have a 'Pak' majority. If you arrive in Birmingham International Airport, you could be forgiven for thinking you had landed in Bangladesh! You are right in saying that NuLabour is an abomination.
They are a Godless, self serving bunch of creeps, and that is being polite! Very polite!!
Sencit,
I have to disagree and agree with you there. The thing is we don't know who attacked the British soldiers and who gives them abuse. Undoubtedly there will be a high Muslim element but there will also be those from the left, not forgetting the feral youth of the UK, thanks to ZaNuLabour.
The thing is, that many people in the UK consider people who are born in the UK to automatically be British which is unfortunately very false logic. To be British means to be a Nationalist really in that you have love for your fellow countrymen, would do them no harm and above all the protection and promotion of British culture the most important. Anyone who is of the left and pro multicultural means that they have no love for their country as they are happy for other cultures to live and grow which will automatically cause security issues for the country.
So what we have in the UK on one hand, is people who are born thinking they are British when they are not and the government continuously giving the false statements of British Muslims, when Muslims will never be anything other than Isalmic. British and Muslim = Oxymoron.
So what I'm really saying about the attackers is that the British Establishments will look at these people as British being born in the UK, yet you and I will look at them as most definitely being British, for attacking British Soldiers as well as being anti British culture, tradition, history and heritage.
Nulabour are the main reason the UK is being Islamised and destroyed from within. If I ever got in power, I would immediately order the arrest of all Labour Politicians including Blair. They would all be tried for treason, to which the death penalty would be brought back and subsequently executed. Blair however would be a different story. He'd not only be tried for treason but also for war crimes as well and his punishment would be the same as what happened to William Wallace. He'd be hung, drawn and quartered for his crimes.
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I would also like to state that Tony Blair and his wife have caused irrepairable damage to the UK. Blair now swans around the world making millions yet brought Britain's reputation into disrepute around the world. His wife Cherie Booth, is a QC and head of a Human Rights Law firm. Her firm must have defended countless numbers of terrorists and also blocked many deportations of terrorists out of the UK.
And yet after all that Blair has done he's the Middle East peace convoy?
Many American's love Blair because he supported them in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet many Brits despise him because he's a liar as well as the person responsible for creating so many laws that let the UK be destroyed from within and allow the Socialists/Communists to take complete control of all of our major establishments.
There has been no other party in the UK and with it leader that has brought so much destruction to this land. Had Blair been alive 100 years ago he would have been executed for treason and there's no doubt about that. I'm not lying here, his history is sold proof!