Father Zakaria Botros on "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"

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Life TV’s Father Zakaria Botros recently ran a show dedicated to discussing the question of morality and how it is—or should be—one of the hallmarks of “prophethood.” At the start, he posed the focal question of the show: “Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?”

He opened the show by relying on an Ibn Taymiyya quote, which evaluated the signs of prophethood. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima “the Liar,” a contemporary of Muhammad. Taymiyya concluded that many of these so-called prophets are, in fact, “possessed,” and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title.

Being that this is the first of several episodes devoted to examining the concepts of morality and prophethood (with the notion that the former reinforces the latter), the theme for this particular episode was “purity” (tahara): "Was Muhammad a 'pure' man?"—in this context, a question concerning his sexual mores (or lack thereof).

After the preliminaries, Botros looked at the camera and gave a stern warning: “This episode is for adults only! I am going to discuss many things that make me blush for shame, so please: have the women and children leave the room.”

He then asked Muslims watching to keep in mind the question “Is this the prophet I follow?” as he delineated some of Muhammad’s sexual habits.

First, from the Koran, Botros read verses unequivocally stating that Muhammad is the paragon of all virtue and morality, such as “And most surely you [Muhammad] conform (yourself) to sublime morality [68: 4].” He further quoted the ulema, such as Ibn Kathir, all insisting that Muhammad was the “Noblest of all humanity, and the greatest of prophets.”

Botros and his ex-Muslim cohost—the priest had insisted that it be a man for this particular show, lest he be too ashamed to delineate Muhammad’s sexual habits—discussed Koran 4:3, which “limits” a Muslim's wives to four, plus “what your right hands possess,” that is, slave-girls.

That was apparently not good enough for Muhammad, asserted Botros; an entire verse had to be “revealed” justifying more women for him (Koran 33:50). In fact, Father Botros has carefully compiled a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad.

Botros said that was only normal: according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will; and if Muhammad desired a married woman, her husband would have had to divorce her. According to Ibn Sa’ad, who wrote another authoritative biographical account of Muhammad, “The prophet did not die till all women were permitted him” (see Kitab Al Tabaqat Al Kubra, v.8, 194).

The co-host, rather abruptly, interjected – “What of all those rumors that Muhammad exhibited homosexual tendencies?”

Botros dropped his face in his hands and mumbled, “So you still insist we discuss that?” The co-host was adamant, saying it was for Muslims’ own good to know everything.

Thus Botros, after profusely apologizing to his Muslim viewers, saying how embarrassing this was for him, declared: “Look! We’re merely readers here, bringing up what we have read in Islam’s own books! If Muslims don't like it, they should go and burn these books.”

The first anecdote discussed by the priest revolved around a hadith that, while some ulema say is “weak,” is, nonetheless according to Botros, present in 44 Islamic books—including some highly respected collections, such as Sunan Bayhaqi and Al Halabi.

According to this hadith, a man named Zahir, who used to declare that “the prophet loves me,” said that one day Muhammad crept unawares behind him and put him in a bear-hug. Zahir, alarmed, yelled, “Get off me!” After turning his head and discovering that it was Muhammad, he stopped struggling and proceeded to “push his back into the prophet’s chest—prayers and blessings upon him."

Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud (one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, “from his bellybutton to his armpits.”

Botros looked casually at the camera and said, “Imagine if the sheikh of Al Azhar [nearest Muslim equivalent to the pope] went around lifting his shirt for men to kiss his torso” (he proceeded to make smacking kissing noises, for effect).

Said the co-host: “Surely there’s more?”

Botros: “Indeed there is. No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls"...

[Stay tuned for part II of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]

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Oh great, my hot pastrami sandwich tastes 'funny' now, Raymond.

And we all know of his pedophiliac desire for six-year-old Aisha.

Muhammad seems to have become a sex-starved pervert as a result of his marriage to his first wife, Khadijah, the wealthy 40-year-old woman who married 25-year-old Muhammad, and was his sole wife for the next 25 years. As soon as he was free of her, and had control of the money, the now 50-year-old Muhammad seems to have decided to make up for lost time, by having a variety of women, (with or without their consent).

"...a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad." Gasp! We knew he was perverse, but not this perverse. Perhaps not out of line for a Chinese emperor or Muslim caliph, or perhaps rock star or male porn star, but a religious leader? Dynamite stuff. I hope Fr. Butros' detail of armed guards is well rested and ready to copy with what will now surely ensue.

All these quotes are taken out of context. The context of 7th century barbarism.

I have said this before, and I will say it again (until forced to stop by anti-blasphemy laws):

Islam is Mirror-World (or Bizarro-World) where everything is the opposite of normal reality. Up is down, right is wrong, and peace means war.

And this is largely due to Muhammad, his example, and the Qu'ran: Because of this matrix, Muslims must believe he was a great example, so therefore:

It's not only allowed, but an "excellent" thing to:

-Own slaves
-Rape the female ones (especially just after killing their husbands)
-Have critics assassinated
-Marry 6-year olds
-Have intercourse with 9 year olds
-Slaughter entire tribes
-Rob caravans
-Torture a man to death to find out where his treasure is hidden
-Hit wives
-Hate dogs, alcohol and music

Having to keep all that in your head as good things to do naturally needs to cognitive dissonance, and insanity!

These rumors that Muhammed was bisexual have been around for a while. I believe Father Botros has been threatened with death by angry followers of the Prophet for repeating them.

I wonder how many ruthless Israeli former secret service agents are employed by Father Botros?

"Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?"....from headline.

HELL NO!!! AND HELL NO AGAIN!!!

Boy, the list just keeps getting longer, and longer on ole Mo. I was in shock-n-awe when I first learned about all those wives that Mo HAD to have. Now I'm learning that he liked men, too, and that french-kissing children was his 'thang'. Actually, that is not french-kissing, that is something else. Gawd. Ew. Gross. CHILDREN, no less!!

Well, if we must know, then we must. I'll just add those things to the ever-growing long list of sexual perversions when some moron cares to defend Muhammad the pig-prophet.

Sheesh..."ready to copy" = "ready to cope" in my post above.

"...according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will...."

This sort of thing was a feature of virtually every cult of the 70's and 80's, from Jim Jones down through all the gurus, swamis, and "anointed ones."

A worthy anti-dhimmi candidate emerges.

Father Zakaria Botros he's good -

He brings out all the stuff Muslims didn't know they had in their religion.

This for ex. is embarrassing stuff -


In the past - Fr. Botros uncovered a little known - Hadith instruction that says a visiting man - should be allowed to breast feed/suckle - on the Islamic man's wife.


Before - when Muslims learned of this stuff - they probably thought they had little choice - but to come to terms with it - but now that is changing.

This guy is priceless. The surest way to drive the Mo's crazy is to casually quote their literature and feign ignorance or shock, rather than exhibit the obvious outrage. This aspect of Mo's life should get more attention - it could revive the career of the Village People.

Oh - wait - I forgot, no music. Does that include gay music????

[Stay tuned for part II of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]

I can hardly wait for part 5. Six and seven should be even better...By then we should be up to goats and camels...

I hope the good Father doesn't shy away fron discussing beasteality. If Muslims are going to follow this evil man and his sick God, they might as well know everything.

Methinks I shall gag. What a noble character these muslims follow...

"By then we should be up to goats and camels..."
Posted by: duh_swami

LOL. Yes, this drama just keeps getting better and better. I can hardly wait for what will come next.

I was interested in this passage:

"Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud (one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, “from his bellybutton to his armpits.”

This reminded me that one of the synonyms for 'homosexual' (male), in Britain has long been 'shirt-lifter'

Perhaps in honour of Mo, who knows?

From eastview's comment, above:

"...a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad." Gasp! We knew he was perverse, but not this perverse. Perhaps not out of line for a Chinese emperor or Muslim caliph, or perhaps rock star or male porn star, but a religious leader?"

Caliphs were religious leaders, also known as Commanders of the Faithful. So were sultans. Most had vast numbers of sex slaves. These unfortunate women and children, including boys if the caliph or sultan was so inclined, were, at least initially, infidels who were captured and sold as war booty, a fifth of which, according to Shari'a, went to the caliph or sultan.

Do you know whom this reminds me of? Mao Zedong. Mao's physician Li Zhi-Sui "The Private Life of Chairman Mao", Mao's sexual desire was insatiable and selfish in a similar way--down to the homosexual impulses and desire for very young girls.

Creepy.

I'm anticipating that the next installment in this series will allude to the numerous passages in the Koran which describe one's paradisical rewards for being killed in holy war, including the frequently repeated assertions that mujahedeen will be waited on not only by lovely houris but also by boys as beautiful as pearls.

Way to go Father Botros! you cannot make up this stuff on mohummad! the only way he has so many followers is that most muslims are not able to read! and or have really low iq's! l wonder if Father Botros can mention about they camels are sold to other villages when muslim men took a facy to them.
yuck!

Botros is quoted as saying:

"No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys"

Actually, there is a hadith in Bukhari (the most authoritative of all hadiths in Islam) where Mohammed sticks his tongue in a little boy's mouth:

1183. It is related that Abu Hurayra said, "I never sae [sic] al-Hasan without my eyes overflowing with tears. That is because the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, went out one day and I found him in the mosque. He took my hand and I went along with him. He did not speak to me until we reached the market of Banu Qaynuqa'. He walked around it and looked. Then he left and I left with him until we reached the mosque. He sat down and wrapped himself in his garment. Then he [Mohammed] said, 'Where is the little one? Call the little one to me.' Hasan came running and jumped into his lap. Then he put his hand in his beard. Then the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, opened his mouth and put his tongue in his mouth. Then he said, O Allah, I love him, so love him and the one who loves him!'"

Here's the link (scroll down to #1183):

http://www.sunnipath.com/Library/Hadith/H0003P0046.aspx

Come to think of it, the way the translation goes -- "opened his mouth and put his tongue in his mouth" -- maybe Botros's interpretation is the right one:

"[the Prophet] opened his mouth [the little boy's mouth, not his own] and put his tongue [the little boy's tongue, not his own] in his [his own, i.e., the Prophet's] mouth."

So Mohammed would actually be sucking on the tongue of little Hasan, like Botros worded it.

I worry about one thing..
i dont know if this show was done in a mocking fashion but thats the perception i received after reading it..

I know that i dont believe in islam..

But I wouldnt go Publicly humiliating muslims..
Why?

I think if any man is already paranoid (thinking all are against him)..

If you then openly Mock what he believes .
Isnt that making the problem worse..
Making that man feel persecuted?

I mean this not to be bending over backwards or to give in to islams demans.. no no..

But i think that muslims need to be shown and taught that what they believe clashes against what the bible says..
Point out the errancy in what they believe

But do it in a way that is logical and maybe lovingly.. Not confrentations..

Why? because with all the yelling and shouting
No one is listening..
Now this does not mean to be a doormat..
NO i wont do that either..
I will not bow down to islams demands for islam contradicts what i know to be true..

But i met a former muslim in our church and he had some very interesting revelations on how to talk to muslims..
and it wasnt making fun of them for they are paranoid..

Point out what is wrong..
Explain what you believe ..
But by mocking their beliefs that you may be making it worse..

Its like when prince harry was caught saying raghead to the other man..

He should have been smarter than that...
come on (even i wouldnt take a beer or alchohol) and bring it around muslims..
Because it looks very bad..

You win the hearts and minds of the muslims not by openly mocking them but showing them what you believe and more importantly WHY...
If God is real cant he handle me INSPECTING him?
Cant he handle my questions?
Cant he handle a REAL person asking REAL questions?

Thats just me maybe i grew up a little bit more..

csparky

a perv is a perv , a pedophile is a pedophile ; telling the truth is not mocking people

If it was just sex, no big deal. It's the violence, domination and overall criminality that's the problem. But Fr Zak is on the right track: Hit 'em where it hurts by making their Prophet sound ludicrous.
66 partners? Didn't I see this guy in "The Prophet Does Dallas".

Imagine how disturbing this must be to Muslims who haven't read the Qur'an.

I believe that's about 80% of Muslims worldwide.

But let's remember that in Islam, duality comes with the Jew hatred. Thus, not only did the crack of dawn have to be careful when Mo was around, but he was also the "perfect man" beyond reproach.

It's hard to win an argument with a madman, but there is no reason we can't keep trying.

I recently saw Fr. Botros speak and he is a fire cracker. I didn't hear anything I hadn't heard or read before, but just watching this little old priest dish it out is worth it just for the entertainment value.

“Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?”


The answer to that is a resounding "No."

csparky, everyone should know about this. Every time some troll starts pulling his craziness we should throw this at them. Islam is a supremacist death-cult and yet what they belive in is as low as it gets. This is ammo for use whenever anyone defends Islam. Islam needs to be exposed for the sickness that it is and Muslims should be shamed for the sickos they are.

Islam needs constant provocations, day-in, day-out. It is our job as decent, moral, ethical, outbred people to make sure that Muslims know what scum we think the followers of this disgusting ideology are, what a perverted death-cult this is. No, we shouldn't hush up like dhimmis and cower in corners. We should fly Israel flags, wear Piglet decals, and let them know that we disapprove of their racism, misogyny, terror-financing, child sex abuse, and fascism (i.e. the 5 Pillars) every way we can.

jdamn - not to mention their complete lack of table manners.

This is fireworks stuff, I wonder how many they'll burn and maim to stop this information getting into the public domain.

Updating the jihadist's "to do" list:

collect jizak from an infidel, check

work on getting a few slave girls, check

Acquire homosexual tendancies, check

This list keeps growing!

Simple question

- How many muslim families today would give up their six year old girl to be a sex slave for a man that is well over 50? (Like when Muhammad acquired Aisha as a six year old sex slave when he was over 50).

In any society, any time in history, Muhammad would be considered a pervert at best or a sex criminal at worst except in islam society for the last 1,400 years till now and in future.

csparky

Father Botros is showing what is wrong, certainly with those of the mosque who are given over to the lesser jihad. he notes the rottenness of the core, the immoral aspect of the main teachings.

this isn't the first post at JW regarding Father Botros.

he seems to be very mindful of those who are still allowed to follow their private interpretation (ijtihad) and are not seeking to be breast fed by the ummah, bound by imams bent on exposing corruption of the infidels. those adherants seek to find true righteosness.

if only some of the nonMuslim interfaith folk would realize that there is a difference, miniscule (maybe), between the two types BUT there is little that can allay the controlling power of the more numerous community over the quiet seeker, who must pray in secret. the world suffers as a result.

yet, the ummah is porous.

DID MUHAMMAD APPROVE OF RAPE? NO? READ ON:

It is against Islam to rape Muslim women, but Muhammad actually encouraged the rape of women captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):

The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150)

Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands, which is all the more reason not to think of Islam as being the same as other religion.

There are several hadith in which Muhammad is asked for his opinion on how women should be raped following their capture. This pertains to an episode in which his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant. Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)

The prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.

As one might imagine, Muhammad's obvious approval of raping women captured in battle, and his own personal participation as recorded in many places, is of intense inconvenience to the Muslim apologists of our time. For this reason, some of them attempt to explain away these many episodes and Qur'anic references to sex with captives by pretending that these are cases in which women have fled bad marriages and sought refuge with the Muslims. Some apologists even refer to them as "wives," even though the Qur'an makes a clear distinction between "those whom thy right hand possesses" and true wives.

Beyond the desperation of the 21st century apologist however, there is absolutely nothing that supports this rosy revision of Muslim history. The women of the Banu Mustaliq were sold into slavery following their rape. In fact, female slaves were traded like any other simple commodity by Muhammad and his Muslims (Ibn Ishaq 693).

More importantly, by definition a "captured" woman is not one who is fleeing her husband. She is fleeing her captor (ie. the Muslim slave raider). This hadith describes a typical raid, in which the women and children are captured as they are attempting to flee the attacking Muslims:

“…and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children [escaping in the distance]. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along” (Sahin Muslim 4345)

The Muslim narrator, who happens to be Muhammad's adopted son, sees the women trying to escape (following the massacre of their men) and cuts off their route by shooting an arrow into their path. These aren't women trying to seek refuge with the Muslims. They are trying to avoid capture by the Muslim.

The same hadith goes on to recount that Muhammad personally demanded one of the captured women for his own use:

I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: “Give me that girl.” (Sahih Muslim 4345)

Above excerpt taken from this link:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-rape.htm

IN CONCLUSION, YES HE DID APPROVE OF RAPE. OH, STOP BEING SHOCKED.

Champ,

Thanks!

These Muslim apologists' silence is deafening!!!!!

Hey, Mo Foe!

Sure!

Yeah, they're regular hit 'n run artists. Guess it takes time to lick their wounds, LOL!

I just love this guy! It is so refreshing to see a Christian cleric tell the truth about islam in uncensored, politically incorrect terms! Muslims live in another dimension where good is evil and evil is good. Their values, morals, and sense of right and wrong are antithetical to ours; we have no commonalities whatsoever and never will.

We have polluted our societies by allowing muslims to invade our countries and we will suffer greatly for this hideous mistake. Muslims cannot peacefully coexist with normal, decent people so every Western country is facing an eventual civil war. What have the stupid, multicultural elites done to us and WHY?!

Champ, it is against islam for non-Muslims to rape Muslim women. Per Koran 2:223, rape is perfectly fine between Muslims. Muslim men can rape their "wives," daughters, sisters, and sex slaves -- whoever they are muhrim to. Nikah is sanctioned rape. Muslims make no distincion between sex, rape, sex slavery, and "marriage." It's all the same thing: nikah. When non-Muslims rape Muslim women I believe - and I could be wrong about this - that it falls under the heading of zina, so if I'm correct about this then non-Muslim on Muslim rape is actually adultery, so Muslims actually have no concept of rape, which shouldn't be surprising. I've never seen any inkling of anything would indicate that Muslims actually have any concept of consent, either.







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