Things are heating up. "Gaza rockets put Israel’s nuclear plant in battle zone," by James Hider in the Times, January 2 (thanks to Sr. Soph):
There were growing fears in Israel last night that Hamas missiles could threaten its top-secret nuclear facility at Dimona.Rocket attacks from Gaza have forced Israelis to flee in ever greater numbers and military chiefs have been shaken by the size and sophistication of the militant group’s arsenal.
In Beersheba, until a few days ago a sleepy desert town in southern Israel, there is little sign of the 186,000 inhabitants. Schools are closed and the streets of shuttered shops echo with the howl of sirens warning of incoming rockets....
Israeli officials say that Hamas has also acquired dozens of Iranian-made Fajr-3 missiles with an even longer range. Many fear that as the group acquires ever more sophisticated weaponry it is only a matter of time before the nuclear installation at Dimona, 20 miles east of Beersheba, falls within its sights. Dimona houses Israel’s only nuclear reactor and is believed to be where nuclear warheads are stored.
Israel’s worst nightmare is that soon all its cities will be within range either of the Hezbollah Katyushas arrayed on the Lebanese border to the north or the increasingly sophisticated missiles stockpiled by Hamas to the south. Both groups have links to Israel’s archenemy Iran.
Israel has said that its aim is to smash Hamas’s rocket-firing capability but also to topple the hardline Islamist regime that seized power in the Gaza Strip in 2007 after bloody street battles with its secular rivals Fatah. Until that goal is achieved, many in Beersheba are packing their bags and heading for Tel Aviv or Eilat.
“Maybe 30 or 40 per cent of people have left the city,” said Ron Shukron, 26, running one of the few grocery shops still open. As he spoke a siren echoed through the empty streets. With only 15 seconds to take cover, he stepped under a reinforced support beam in the ceiling. Seconds later came the dull thud of a rocket exploding on the edge of town.
Robert are you still suffering from the DNS attack? It took me over half an hour before I could access the site, it's now 8:30am Israel time.
Robert are you still suffering from the DNS attack? It took me over half an hour before I could access the site, it's now 8:30am Israel time.
Robert are you still suffering from the DNS attack? It took me over half an hour before I could access the site, it's now 8:30am Israel time.
And this goes on while America sleeps!
I am obviously also having posting problems.
Bloody Iranians.
When are we going to attack Iran?
This is serious. This is also why Muslims need to be driven out of Europe: because they're too close to nukes. If Israel's going to fight a multi-offensive war they need the US and they need to get it on now before GWB leaves office. This is what Iran wants: for it to get very serious with Hamas while they have to fight Hezbollah too, which would probably solve the Hamas issue by forcing Israel into my Sinai Solution. Alternately, it could force us into war against Iran, which would a great excuse to "cut and run" in Iraq. Of course, it would have to be a true shock-and-awe spectacle, and it would have to be done by the 20th
From Debkafile, a prayer for the defence forces of Israel:
Saturday, December 27, 2008
"Prayer for the Welfare of Soldiers in the Israel Defense Forces
www.azm.org/soldiers_prayers.shtml#
'May He who blessed our fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
'bless the soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces
'who keep guard over our country and cities of our Lord from the border with Lebanon to the Egyptian desert and from the Mediterranean Sea to the approach to the Arava,
'be they on land, air or sea.
'May the Almighty deliver us our enemies who arise against us,
'may the Holy One, blessed be He, preserve them and save them from all sorrow and peril, from danger and ill.
'May He send blessing and success in all their endeavors,
'may He deliver to them those who hate us
'and crown them [the soldiers] with salvation and victory,
'so that the saying may be fulfilled through them,
"For the Lord, your God, who walks with you and to fight your enemies for you and to save you",
'and let us say, Amen."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5PflhaNsKw
Watch between 30 and 40 seconds where they speak English. Pakistan, a 'moderate muslim nation' a 'responsible nuclear state' is talking about nuking Israel and look at the moderator's facial expressions when he says so. This is a popular mainstream program on a popular mainstream channel. What a psychopathic country Pakistan has become!
Bloody Iranians.
When are we going to attack Iran? - Posted by S Perry
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I'd rather see the Saudi scum get what they deserve first. They're a much bigger, deceiving and vicious threat than Iran, ideologically speaking. They're certainly the main financial backers of the Eurabia project as well.
oh oh! whilst nucleur fcilities are the pride of a nation; they can be its achillies heel too. We saw at Chenorbil the devastating effects that nucleur leaks can have on the ground.
40% leaving that area; these are learned people, families of scientists; "get out of here and go and live with your mum in Tel-aviv and Allah willing; eh! sorry Jesus willing we will see you soon; shallom, now GOoooo". The governmnet has forced the scientists to stay "where is your pride, we need for you to stay".
It is true that a leak there will affect Gaza too; but a flattened gaza, these people who have nothing anyway; well it's more of the same.
NOooo, it is Israel however that will really lose here. We always knew this day would come, my advice is that a negotiated settlement be reached asap if this tradegy is not to unfold.
From now on Israel will need to behave as a responsible neighbor.
The tone of Mr Hider's piece is very, very nasty. Read it through slowly, look at his choice of words, and think about how he is portraying the Jews of Israel.
However: I am sure that the Israelis are not silly enough to have put all their eggs in one basket, so to speak.
There are lots and lots of excellent hidey-holes in the Negev. It isn't a flat and featureless expanse of empty sand; it is a fearsome maze of caves and canyons.
As for 'keeping low' the Muslim boggart, his triumphalism, threats and boasting, and his revolting use of turnspeak and projection -"from now on Israel will need to behave as a responsible neighbor" {no, mate, it's HAMAS and the Gazan Arab Muslims who have behaved as very, very bad neighbours indeed, and - so long as they remain devout imitators of Ubul Kassim Ha-Meshugga - will remain incapable of anything resembling good neighbourliness}.are par for the course; as is his whingeing and whining, which will get short shrift on these premises.
Israel will need to go all the way to destroy hammas, and not stop till its done. then look towards iran to topple.
With Israeli cities bombed by 4000 rockets this year, entire Israeli cities evavuated and made uninhabitable by Hamas (this as a war tactic), innocent civilians...schools, men, women, children, babies, homes, stores, all targeted by Hamas, a known deadly enemy, and now this enemy targeting an Israeli nuclear plant...Israel does not need the approval of the media or the world. They have the approval of God to defend themselves and to kill the enemy.
Only an anti-semite such as Hitler would look the other way under these circumstances. Unfortunately, in every country there are many such anti-semites and the MSM plays to them with silence on this very important news event. In effect, the MSM has become anti-semite.
Go Israel...kill the enemy...defend yourselves. Don't worry about the collateral damage because that too, is a barbarian tactic perpetrated by Hamas. They want their own people killed so they can squall to the world and claim innocence. They are true barbarians and savages, no different than all the uncivilized savages from antiquity.
I have read James Hider (Haidar) in other newspapers; he's a flat-out antisemitic propagandist. There is no other way to describe him. If I can unearth a piece or two by him -- I may not have kept them -- I'll put up something more revealing here.
Israel’s worst nightmare is that soon all its cities will be within range either of the Hezbollah Katyushas arrayed on the Lebanese border to the north or the increasingly sophisticated missiles stockpiled by Hamas to the south. Both groups have links to Israel’s archenemy Iran.
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Israel is a tiny country. It is only due to the ineptitude of "Palestinians" that they haven't already procured longer range rockets. Saddam Hussein's SCUDs were extremely crude, but could be lobbed into Israel all the way from Iraq.
What is Israel supposed to do when missiles no longer just terrorize smaller cities like Sderot, but can strike at the heart of Tel Aviv?
keeping low wrote:
NOooo, it is Israel however that will really lose here. We always knew this day would come, my advice is that a negotiated settlement be reached asap if this tradegy (sic) is not to unfold.
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What would that "negotiated settlement" look like--seeing as Hamas is sworn to wipe out Israel entirely?
It is better that Israel make it abundantly clear that Gaza has a price to pay for its relentless, unprovoked attacks on Israel. Even a people who crow about how they "love death" are likely to back off when enough high-level Hamas thugs have been targetted.
Well, that's what inbreeding does. It creates lower intelligence. Do these idiot philistines have any idea that hitting the nuclear plant will affect their country too? Or that of Jordan? Of Egypt?
But they are all muslims, all brothers. They will all be martyrs in paradise. The lemmings are marching to their deaths in a total stupor.
God HAS blessed Israel and will continue to do so! Stand tall Israel. Never forget.
ProudKafir, much as I would love to blame the Saudis for everything, Europeans and only Europeans are responsible for Eurabia. Muslims are doing what Muslims do. It's Europe that's to blame for that situation, mostly the French.
As for Keeping Low, his Judeophobia is apparent, but I must admit that much the same thing has more than just occurred to me; I've thought it through. Here's my last-ditch proposal if it ever comes down to it: a Mormon/Israeli exchange program. We could just give Israel Utah. Make it its own country right in the middle of the US, like the Vatican. It's bigger than Israel even with Gaza and Judea and Samaria. And Mormons like the desert, so ship them off to it. If anyone can make Utah bloom, it's the Israelis.
As for the Mormons in the Middle East, I don't think they'll be annihilated. I think, rather, they'll revert. They're America's own cult for pedophilic, separatist, supremacist, polygamist, incest-committing teetotalers who don't let people leave the cult. They're obviously quite impressionable. They may, however, seriously resent the Mohammedan "work ethic," being a very industrious people, but the muzzies will likely exploit that and given the something higher than dhimmi status.
Just an idea I've kicked around. Yes, Israel is the promised land, but come on. What's really left of Judaism's holy places? A wall and a mount upon which is built a mosque, which, let's face it, should have been bulldozed in 1948, but which the Israelis are way too dhimmified to ever destroy. Give 'em Utah. If Israel has a safe Zionist state the Mormons are really of no use to anyone. Backing Israel is all they'r really any good for now.
Poor baby, NOW you are crying,, now you know that u might be at RISK. NOW YOU KNOW YOU COULD GET SCREWED. NOW, what you have to do is RUN AWAY, run away back to where you came from because Dimona ( your pride ) could become your end,, My advice to you. Run away,, those people in Gaza are crazy,, they might just do it,, they might just launch their rockets at your Nuclear plant.. RUN RUN,,
Poor baby, NOW you are crying,, now you know that u might be at RISK. NOW YOU KNOW YOU COULD GET SCREWED. NOW, what you have to do is RUN AWAY, run away back to where you came from because Dimona ( your pride ) could become your end,, My advice to you. Run away,, those people in Gaza are crazy,, they might just do it,, they might just launch their rockets at your Nuclear plant.. RUN RUN,,
Poor baby, NOW you are crying,, now you know that u might be at RISK. NOW YOU KNOW YOU COULD GET SCREWED. NOW, what you have to do is RUN AWAY, run away back to where you came from because Dimona ( your pride ) could become your end,, My advice to you. Run away,, those people in Gaza are crazy,, they might just do it,, they might just launch their rockets at your Nuclear plant.. RUN RUN,,
Observe, ladies and gentlemen. This is really interesting.
The gleeful response of the Muslim dementors to Mr Hider's (Haidar's?) little agitprop article in The Times, rather bears out Our Hugh's observations re. said Mr Hider:
"I have read James Hider (Haidar) in other newspapers; he's a flat-out antisemitic propagandist. There is no other way to describe him."
I *knew* when I read the article that it rang false as hell. And look at how the Muslim Dementors have lapped it up - because it represents the Jews, and Israel, in a manner that feeds their (the Arab Muslims') evil supremacist fantasies.
For anyone who *doesn't* do geography, this
http://wikitravel.org/en/Image:MakhteshRamon_Moonscape.JPG
is a typical piece of Negev topography
and here
http://www.bobmay.info/jan302003hikingnegev.htm
is a description of another part.
Seems to me that the place would be chock full of excellent, secure underground hiding places for high-tech hardware of the most powerful kind. Even katyushas are not going to touch anything dug deep in some hidden canyon somewhere, biding its time.
Do the stupid Hamas think that the ISRAELIS don't know how to dig holes and tunnels? The ancient Jews dug amazing tunnels not in sand but in ROCK, in Jerusalem; tunnels that their descendants put to good use, during the 1948 war.
Hugh
did you know Mr James Hider, "The Times Middle Eastern Bureau Chief" currently based in Jerusalem. has written his very first book? - it is due out 15 January 2009.
http://www.rbooks.co.uk/product.aspx?id=038561554X
It appears, from the blurbs - by three persons I have never heard of, Chris Ayres, Antony Lloyd, and Matt McAllester - to be a typical exercise in moral equivalencing.
Irene Lancaster, a British Jew now living in Israel, had lunch with him in October 2007. Her account of him is curious - she seems to quite like him.
http://irenelancaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/10/lunch-with-the-.html
If he is as you say - and I think he is, to judge from the underlying tone of the posted article today - then he is cleverer than most, for Irene not to work him out.