German police aids Jew-hating Muslim mob, removes Israeli flag from window

Jihad Watch reader Oao just sent me this:

:16 AM Received from Muqata Blog Reader in Germany, Sebastian M.

Today, 10.000 people demonstrated against Israel here in my hometown Duisburg (Germany) and to express their solidarity with Hamas. So, my girlfriend and me put two Israel flags out of the windows of our flat in the 3rd floor. During the demonstration which went through our street the police broke into our flat and removed the flag of Israel. The statement of the police was to de-escalate the situation, because many youth demonstrators were on the brink of breaking into our apartment house. Before this they threw snowballs, knifes and stones against our windows and the complete building. We both were standing on the other side of the street and were shocked by seeing a police officer standing in our bedroom and opening the window to get the flag. The picture illustrate this situation. The police acquiesced in the demands of the mob.

And as you can see from the video, the mob applauded, cheered, and shouted "Allahu akbar" when the flag disappeared.

Video above from Jewish Odysseus (thanks to Phil).

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'The police acquiesced in the demands of the mob.'


When the police begin to acquiesce the demands of a violent and intimidating mob against basic personal property rights, affairs are out of hand. And that leads to anarchy, which leads to civil unrest.

If people cannot be guaranteed personal property rights because of an angry mobs whims, where are we. We're nearing the rabbit hole.

We have got to get a handle on this. If I can't rely on the authorities to protect my basic ownership rights, in accordance with the law, what good are they? That's when people begin to take the law into their own hands.

And that's when rubber begins to meet road.

"The police acquiesced in the demand of the mob."

Acquiescence to the mob..... A slippery slope indeed.....

This business isn't about to change any time soon. Police forces would be well served to plan in advance.

There are those who still feel the Jews of Europistan have nothing to fear or be concerned about. Just keep quiet and all will be just fine. Tell that to my family members that died in Auschwitz, treblinka, and other holocaust death camps because they thought it would all blow over, and they would be safe. One only has to look at the rabid, barbaric Jew hatred fueled protests throughout Europistan to see that yes, it can and may be already happening again. islamofacism is alive and well and we can thank the impotent european union and the countries leaders who have allowed ignorant, uncivilized, 7th century minded muslims, who have flooded Europistan and are demanding their rights, beliefs, sharia law and dhimmi way of servitude.

This will only get worse until Euopistan decides to fight back against islamofacism, with bullets if need be to keep Europistan from becoming one large continent of muslisms and islamofacism. First it will be the Jews, then all the rest of the infidels and kaffirs. Is that what you want?
There is NO MIDDLE ground with islam. Kill it for good or it will keep returning like the malignant cancer that it is. The proof is right before our eyes but only if we want to see it and fight.

One of the worst things that an Law Enforcement can do, is to violate one's property rights, . Those couple should sue the Police Department and the officers that were involved for not just violating their privacy and property rights, but for also giving into the demands of an Angry Mob(particular if it is an Islamic Mob). I can tell all of you one thing, if that was done here in the US, it would not be tolerated at all and there would definitely be backlash at the Police Department for sure, and make sure they do not forget about it.

Plus, in Germany and in many European countries, they(European Governments) make it extremely hard to gain the right to even own a single gun in the home, hence, God forbid should that Islamic Mob had gone into the couple's house and that the couple were inside their room, they would have been defenseless and slaughtered on the spot, that is why I am glad to be in the US, that we all have the right to bear arms and defend our Families, our Country and Ourselves from any enemy that dares to take our Liberty away from us, and oppose them at wherever they may be.

In f'ing GERMANY? It is on. Germany has had more than its fair share of fascism, not just from Hitler, but from having had half of itself on the east side of the Iron Curtain. I'll be damned if they become Turkey because of these monsters.

Today the flag for you, tommorow the Sinai for us, bitches.

That's the thing that scares me about Germany, by the way. Not the sweet, blue-eyed German guy I did a project with last semester, but the half of the native population who are still recovering from communism, intellectually-speaking. I fear that they may be too accustomed to group-think and diffusion of responsibility.

I remember reading a vignette from Douglas Coupland's 'Polaroids From the Dead' in which he goes into a record store in the former East Germany. It was years after the fall of communism but the staff of the store had not caught onto that fact. They had no interest in helping customers, stocking inventory, being polite, or in engaging in any aspects what make capitalism great for a customer. It actually reminds me of a certain bike shop in my town, except that there they hit on you while wait, but I digress.

I don't know if Germany can recover from leftist group-think, at least, not in time for them to not be overtaken by a stronger, more assertive culture that knows what it wants is willing to do anything to get it. If Turkey joins the EU, Germany's over.

On the upside, Europe needs more cops, so that should help with the unemployment problem.

Bobby, even as European authorities prevent the individual from bearing arms, there are other things that could be done against Islam. Doctors could declare it a mental disease; its practices could be forbidden on political grounds, etc. It should be an offense to follow Islam's guidelines, since its ideas obviously lead to general unrest and lack of safety in each and every country where it has gained a foothold.

ISLAM IS A MENTAL DISEASE! GREAT IDEA!
1.5 BILLION CRAZY FOOLS!
A CULT THAT MADE PEDOPHILIA A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
a CULT THAT MADE MURDER A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
A CULT THAT MADE INCEST A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
A CULT THAT MADE RACISM A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
A CULT THAT MADE COVERING WOMEN A RELGIOUS EXPERIENCE
A CULT THAT MADE LYING HOLY
A CULT THAT MADE PLAGUIRIZING THEIR HOLY RIGHT
" " SLAVERY "
"

During this 'latest Islamic upheavel', one of the more important lessons various countries are learning is:

We must inform ourselves regardless of how disturbing it is to face - We must understand these matters with clarity and act responsibly for the sake of future generations. There is probably no greater threat to the survival of mankind than Islam.

EVERYTHING SANE IS FORBIDDEN
EVERYTHING INSANE IS HOLY
iSLAM TWISTED EVERYTHING
IF A CIVILIZED SOCIETY SAYS NO, ISLAM SAYS YES

ISLAM SAYS DEATH IS BETTER THAN LIFE, YET aLLAH CREATED LIFE. TWISTED IDEOLOGY WITH FROZEN MINDS FROM THE 7TH CENTURY AND BEFORE

I would actually argue that Islam may not be a mental illness in and of itself, but that it does necessitate being a complete narcissist. Narcissism, btw, is incurable. This is why I draw the distinction between "real Muslims" and "in-name-only Muslims." You really can see it in their eyes.

Perhaps if we allow Turkey into the EU and give 90 million muslims the right to settle anywhere in Europe it will make things better.

PS - Credit to the guy who put up the Israeli flag.

PatriotUSA,

What's happening in Europe, were I Jewish, would frighten the hell out of me, especially given its past. But these things are happening now in the USA, too, no getting around that. The police here have removed peaceful counter-protesters so as not to upset the mohammedans; same with persoanl property, such as flags.

In all honesty, I think it's good for Israel to have gone after Hamas-holes in Gaza. It seems like it has stirred up a hornest's nest of outraged mohammedan emotions, aided and abetted by our loonie progressives (who seem to forget how Khomeini treated the Tudeh Party members after they helped him into power). This just may jump-start this simmering, low-intensity, asymmetrical war in which we are currently engaged, and make it hot. Then we can settle this thing. The Mohammedans in our midst policy is not working out too well for the West, and will not work out for us down the road as their numbers increase. Because, as anyone who reads just JW or DW alone knows, this thing will have to be settled. There is no room for shari'a, for dhimmitude in the West. And if such slavery were forced by our political elite upon us, it will will make the war spread in ways unimagined, a horrible civil and jihad war, both at the same time. This will get ugly, and I think will get ugly very fast after January 20th.

More and more and more...

More examples of how Islam prompts Muslims to claim victimhood - Even if it is they who have provoked a conflict - Even if is they who have behaved injustly and the other party involved is reacting in defence of its rights.

More examples of how Muslims need never take responsibility for their inappropriate behaviour - For Muslims by the fact that they are Muslims deserve to get whatever it is they want and are justified in taking it from anyone who is non-muslim.

More examples of how Muslims are exempt from the norms of decent behaviour for an important part of their religious obligation is to expand Islam on what they claim is their God Allahs earth by any means necessary. These are the teaching of their prophet Mohammed.

I am an ex-muslim and am dismayed at the fact that Muslims are not leaving Islam at a faster rate now that objective critiques have finally become widely available and have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a fraudulent, abhorrent religion.

This outrage sounds just like those bans on demonstrations and protests against the islamization of Europistan because of "security" concerns, while muslim demonstrations always get the go ahead; even when they openly praise hitler, call for the mass-murder of infidels, seditiously demand that secular laws be replaced with sharia and elected officials be toppled and replaced with a caliphate, and the rest of their usual mohammedan demands. Demands which, though European political leaders have no reason whatsoever to meet, usually always get muslims everything they want. That's yet another reason to be very, very worried about Europistan's future if one lives there.

But if we're to get anything remotely favorable to the anti-jihad cause from all of this, such an event should be highly publicized to raise public awareness of the islamic threat, just as Hugh has recently stated that might be a positive effect of so many islamonazi demonstrations across Europe. They help truly expose islam for what it is; not those phony smiles one gets at the kebab joints or at the carpet stores when Westerners foolishly spend their hard-earned money on rip-offs while they're on pointless vacations in A-rab countries. They help people see what islam is truly all about.

The ordinary, law-abiding European citizen should see those placards and their messages of hatred, hear those nazis scream that they want Jews "back in the ovens"; take in the violence that they thought could only take place in the backwardness of Porkistan and the Middle East happening right around the corner from their apartments, right at the train station which is part of their daily commute to work. Work that they do to help pay for welfare benefits for those who do nothing besides taking part in those riots and nazi demonstrations whenever their imam tells them that their cult has been insulted. Whenever they hear that their seventh-century hitler has been defamed. Those are some of the few things that compels them to muster the energy to get off their lazy rear ends and show Westerners what kind of gratitude one is to expect for allowing muslims to live in their midst.

And that should help drive the message home: "You give us shelter in your civilized societies, but if you don't voluntarily let us turn them into what we once used as an excuse to get asylum in your country in the first place, we'll do it by force anyway."

And if Europeans do realize that what I wrote in the last paragraph of my previous comment is all they can expect from the mohammedans that they allow to live among them, their two choices should become clear. And then they would just have to decide which one to pick.

What would the Muslims of Egypt do if Jewish people began sporadically bombing Cairo from the outskirts of the city.

Answer: Ruthlessly without hesitation slaughter every Jewish person they could get their hands on. How's that for perspective?

Seems Israeli Jews dispite their imperfections are a more respectable lot in comparison.

Don't you think?

I have noticed that over the past 6 months, on average, the the Jihad news here at JW has gotten markedly worse. No telling what we may see in the next six months.

Jihad watch: It's 3am westcoast time. Please let this article and its comments ride for a couple more hours and allow people to absorb it - Its contents are significant.

Spot on, wait for the "anti-racism" (i.e., anti-semitic, nazi and pro-islamic slavery) "Durban II" conference. I'm already making mental notes to help me stay calm and not write comments that will fit the criteria for immediate removal from this forum.

The amount of nazi vitriol, hypocrisy, moral-blindness and the calls for genocide targeting Jews to come out of that little fascist get-together in Genevastan will be way higher than any of us can anticipate.

jdamm
Thanks for the correction re:gov-Serbian.

Muslims are destroying Europe and are trying to use intimidation to control.

I personally refuse to even purchase goods from any of them until they stop this mess. I love some Jews, and the idea of hate of Jews is evil from the days of King David-Ps. 83. Arabs hated Jews even back then. The Ishmaelites and their buddies wanted to push Jews into the sea. Jews had such a higher standard of living than the people around them, that envy was the reason they were and still are hated by. Not one nation ruled by Islamic ideology is successful. When an Muslim nation is successful, infidels were involved. No matter how nice you are to the Islamic mindsets, you lose. They only respect power. I have power not to spend my impure money at any Muslim business, or allow any Muslim doctor who is more Muslim than a doctor to get my visits and money.

Alert hospitals of the medical jihads
Food businesses of a poison jihad
Alert Social Services of the sex jihad
Alert School Boards of the education jihad
Alert fire and police of the crime jihad
Muslim cops are not to come into a home with picture and dogs, especialy black dogs
Alert medical facilities re: child molestation and FGM
New gangs: Muslim boys-converted juveniles in jail
Alert churches of Muslim hatred of Christians as well as Jews

.

Hurray for democracy, The worst form of government .Mobs rool!

I hear there is at this moment a pro-Israel rally in the center of London - 35000 to 40000 people.

If this does not make any Jew on earth sell all and make Aliyah, NOW! nothing will.

I've witnessed this ridiculous behavior here in Sodom, CA and I understand how it works. The Jews are respectful and compliant so we are always the ones who have to move. The Cops know full well that any attempts to do so with the screaming anti-Israel lunatics would be futile.

I went to the counter protest in San Francisco today and it was a pretty tame affair compared to this.
The SFPD actually had it together for once and had the Jews, and I mean Jews, separated and protected by double barriers across Polk Street which is pretty wide. They often plan these protests on Shabbat to keep our numbers low but we had a decent but sadly subdued crowd.

The SF Chronicle (Comical) featured a lopsided story on how Israel is "Losing the PR war". So I think it brought a few more Jews out.

I am amazed that there did not seem to be one Gentile there. There really are no real christian churches in the city.
They are way out there liberal emergants with lesbian pastors etc.
So of course they have thrown the bible in the trash and are unconcerned with what the Living God of Israel has to say on the subject. They march with fascists who would kill every Jew and Christian on earth instead.

Well anyway, there is another protest tomorrow at the Israeli Consulate which is in much closer quarters so it may get heavier.

Am Yisrael Chai!
Dani' El

The Quranic verse 9:29 provides a great deal of insight into 'islamic behaviour':

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

This verse is an excepted, practiced part of the Islamic religion.

It would be hard for one to imagine something equally despicable.

Mein Gott! Gilt die Scharia schon im Ruhrpott?

This is terrible. I wish it were an exception, but such events are becoming more and more common. In each case, violence and thuggish behavior are rewarded by the authorities.

A violent mob shows up to disrupt a conference? Cancel it! Arab children attack Jewish children in Danish schools? Ban Jewish children from enrolling! Some men feel the uncontrollable urge to rape women who are not wearing burqas? Require women to dress modestly! The list goes on.

The German authorities should have either refused to allow the protestors to use that street on the grounds that Jews live on that street and they didn't want to "escalate" the situation, OR at least not allowed them to display "Palestinian" flags or symbols, on the same grounds. With the same conditions to apply to any and all streets that they might want to march down: if any Jews lived on the street, then either no demonstration or at least no flags and no "kill the Jews" signs.
That sounds fair to me. I'm sure the sweet, reasonable Moslems would agree, in order not to "escalate" the situation. The only problem is: when did anyone meet a sweet, reasonable Moslem?

What did we expect from the German stormtroopes who have swapped the swastika for the EUSSR flag?

The EU is firmly on the side of Hamas, as is the British Government - & for one reason only:

Our stupid immigration policies into Europe have placed a fifth column of western hating Muslims at the heart of our societies.

As Europe slept indeed.

Anyone with an ounce of sense (let alone an eduction in political history & science as I do) knows that we are heading for civil war in Europe - Muslims & the "left" against the rest of us.

We are blind to the lessons of history - & we will all pay a price for accommodating Islamofasdcism (as the German Police demonstrated on this video)in Europe.

Good luck Israel - by the time Europe realises the horror of its inaction in supporting you Europe itself will be facing its own Intafada.

Go IDF.

So once again, Germany has surrendered to the leadership of a psychotic serial killer and his following mob. "Allahu Akbar" is the new "Seik Heil". 2009 is the new 1929. And this contagious mental illness has already spread to our country. It seems that every new day brings a new example as to why our fore-fathers granted us the right to bear arms.

Never Submit!

Shocked, stunned, and filled with sorrow.

Muslims are destroying the civilized world, and we are letting them.

What ever happened to "Never Again"?

The operative words here are "violent and intimidating mob...."

Apparently, this is the politics that must be used in the EU democracy.

The lesson is simple -- if you want the same rights as hamas in Europe you need:

1. a mob
2. a violent mob
3. a violent and INTIMIDATING mob

If you have all three of these things the police will work FOR you.

If you are missing ANY of these things you will be arrested by the police and hauled before the courts.

Lesson learned?

Yes, "the demands of the mob". That appears to be all that is needed to get what they want.

Have we lost our minds? Or simply, our principles, convictions and courage.

What we see in this video is the German police violating freedom of speech (at least on the Pro-Israeli side) and that is not good, however talking about a Nazi Germany is clearly overreacting. I would say Germany at least has a sane leader in Angela Merkel. Remember, she is the only European leader who said regarding this recent Gaza conflict that Israel has the right to defend itself and that Hamas is to blame for everything! Let's not forget this. Some Israeli politician even remarked he whished Israel had friends in the World like Merkel.

I don't think removing this flag had anything to do with "nazism" on the police's part either, more with dimmithude. Just what we are sadly witnessing all over the World.

Germany has its problems with the Turkish immigrants, just like Britain with Pakis or France with North-Africans, but no, they are not a nazi country. I's say I even hear more sane voices from there than from Britain or France.

What ever happened to "Never Again"?

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 11, 2009 8:51 AM

It's happening Again. This time, by Islamo-Nazis.

Allahu Akbar is a battle cry, used by Mahound and all his worshipers.

This is becoming the dominate symbol for Islam.

The battle cry that represents the 'religion of peace'...Frequently used in beheadings, and brutalities of all kinds...

This is not coming to a theater near you, it is already there, and playing...In order to stop it, we may have to wreck the projector, or at least unplug it...

The demonstration was organized by the Turkish Islamist organisation Milli Görüs.

Take note.

What an intolerable group of people. A disgusting, intolerable group of people.

What a strange place conservatives and libertarians are in, caught between the leftists on one side, and the far-right totalitarian Muslims who use the useful idiot leftists to their advantage.

Between Iraq and a hard place.

Tilly, anytime. I had to look it up myself. By the way, I enjoy your posts. They may not be for everyone, but I like them.

Dani'El, make Aliyah because Iran is working on nukes? No thank you!

Ebonystone, I say let them get away with everything but murder in the streets. Let them expose themselves for who they are. I saw the "go back to the oven" thing all over Fox. Let them get up in the face of Jews and let their monster flag fly high lik ethat headscarf in Ft. Lauderdale. Let the world see what they're up against. Let them pull their heads out of their you-know-whats. Let the world not be able to deny this anymore. I would be interested to see whether the sales of Dr. Bostom's last book start skyrocketing.

Thank God for YouTube. Thank God for the First Amendment. Muslims are their own worst enemy. Of course, they blame their image problem on the Jews too, like everything else.

Henrik, I would be interested to hear your opinion on my 3:55 post. You clearly have a better perspective on this.

Despite of the European media's best efforts: Israel finds more sympathy in Europe

Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0108/p01s02-woeu.html?page=1

It's high time for Europe to WAKE UP ! Yesterday, here in Paris, muslims demonstrators threw stones at stores owned by jews, breaking several glasses, and tagged swastikas on their doors, and today, German police is into an appartment without a warrant to remove an iIsraeli flag ?! OPEN A HISTORY BOOK and check when this happened for the last time in Europe !! Yeah thats right, Islam is sending Europe back to the third Reich era. But we're ALL guilty for letting this happen on our soil. Instead of helping our Israeli brothers, many of us are supporting those terrorists, find it normal that the police protect them and help them to spread terror among their opponents. That's just another sad day in europe, and actually i believe this continent is already lost to the muslims.

All these Islamists know are displays of violence, and the authorities legitimize them by caving.

It really is sad.

What do swastikas mean today anyway? If I saw a swastika on a building I would not know whether it was intended as a hypocritical, Judeophobic condemnation of Israel or as a message that Jews are to be killed. Either way, all it signals to me is that " X Islamofascist was here." Muslims are so unbelievably hypocritical as to have essentially rendered their message meaningless.

jdamn thanks for the response. I know that my comments are not for everyone, but the sneaky muslims are using blacks as useful idiots to attack the feet of the USA. The elite of the useful idiots, e.g Wright, Malcolm X, NOI, etc., are tools of the Islamic Revolution. We need to call it the Infidel Crusades. Since they blame Jews for everything, when a converted Jew gave us the first Quran in English. Enslaved converted Jews wrote a fourth of the Quran from the reversed edition of the Talmud of Babylon and Jewish fairy tales. They made sure history would tell the truth. Well we now know who wrote the Quran. Allah wrote the Quran they say, well allah must be a Jewish Rabbi who told tales of Adam being 90 feet tall and Noah taking Adam's body aboard the ark. (smile) all from Jewish fairy tales written 500 years before Muhammad was born. JEWS WON, MUSLIMS LOSE! GO JEWS AND ALL NON-MUSLIMS.

The statement of the police was to de-escalate the situation, because many youth demonstrators were on the brink of breaking into our apartment house.

The police should have called in reinforcements. Failing that, they should have opened fire on the crowd.

Have we lost our minds? Or simply, our principles, convictions and courage.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader

I don't think 'we' have lost those items, but someone certainly has...

I wonder if there is a lost and found department for lost minds...

The mental institutions are full of people who have lost their minds, but I don't think anyone has ever found one...

The police should have called in reinforcements. Failing that, they should have opened fire on the crowd.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop

Maybe, and at some point something like this may be necessary, but it would be interpreted as police murder in behalf of Israel. Boy could Abdullah M get mileage out of that, not to mention CNN...

having just read a few of the comments here i believe muslims and jews will never get along..you all spew hatred as the normal way of understanding...your concerns for your own way or their way leaves you out of the WAY in which we could all be...sounds hippy dippy but most of the comments on this page sound like right wing neo-cons from the U.S...I'm moving to south america where they kill each other for the commerce of things....good luck PEOPLE...

I think the parallels between today and the 30's is VERY pertinent. Had the civilized world met the nazis with some considerable force early on, millions of death and catastrophe would have been averted.

The world is getting too crowded. Resources will be running out, and life will be getting harder. Rather than blame their own irresponsible breeding and profligate use of resources, people will blame the Jews.

The only difference is Israel and the brilliant IDF. I send them money, and I am armed. Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they arent out to get me.

duh_swami, it can't be helped. The police can't allow Muslims, or anyone else, to bully them around. If killing some worthless rioters is the only way to send a message then that's what needs to be done.

Pete hezbollah is already there thanls to Chavez.
Muslims are using the SA people as they use black converts. RACISM-when they called all white slaves mamluks and all black skinned people abeds.
You cannot run, liberalism has allowed Islam to spread by deceit. We all serve the same god crap.
If you serve a rock and I serve a cat, is that the same. Allah is the greatest deceiver-Quran 3:54, Satan is the greatest Deceiver in the Bible.(John 8:44) Not the same. Now they want Alaska, to convert the Polar Bears and moose!

How can i comment on this , being a Republican some of us have shown how we feel about Muslims before our presidential elections , we were bombarded with hate from those saying how muslims are not bad , esp from europeans ,suddenly europeans are seeing muslims being protected and followed like puppies by their own government forces and now they have a mental desease . how funny when so many of you supported and even called for the United States to elect one as president . time will tell you got what you asked for . welcome to an openlyblind world .

@pete 12:42 PM

Good luck in South America, Pete. BTW, have you ever actually been there, or is your thinking based on having read a few travel brochures and Lonely Planet guides?

How can i comment on this , being a Republican some of us have shown how we feel about Muslims before our presidential elections , we were bombarded with hate from those saying how muslims are not bad , esp from europeans ,suddenly europeans are seeing muslims being protected and followed like puppies by their own government forces and now they have a mental desease . how funny when so many of you supported and even called for the United States to elect one as president . time will tell you got what you asked for . welcome to an openlyblind world .

It's sad to see those Jew and Muslim hated each other deeeply. Both Israel goverment and Hamas acting as the same,murders, no repect to civilians. It's also sad to called demonstrator as Mob. These people did a job for us to ask Israli stop the killing in GaZa.
I don't think this war will solve the problem except they want to destry Gaza.
We are still living in the primative world. They strong eat the weak. The German kill the Jew. The Jew kill muslim when they be strong.
Did mankind learn ?

" Did mankind learn?"
posted above

Some not very much...as evidenced by your post

this time IDF des not need a cease fire UNTIL they finish the job of taking out hamas and the other groups of terror cells living in palestine.if need be reoccupy gaza to stop the missles,until all these so called people that take up for the palestines/hamas are put in the same situation as Israeli`s are in they need to shut up!Iran/pakistan are breeding grounds for the terror cells like hamas they to need to be taken out.missle one place and they come out like p8ssed off like a wasps nest.the amount the they spend in burning jewish flags and american flags they could be feeding their families,ooh thats right the EU/USA we give their countries aid.

The media are demonizing Israel.

Think back to the cartoonifada, which showed enraged Moslems all heated up over satire.

The media ignored the cartoonifada as much as possible because the actions of Moslems then were so ludicrous.

Now we have the media ignoring the present anti-Semitism and the violent demostrations as much as possible because to cover the stories would show up the Moslems and allied leftists for what they are.

Over the past few days, I've been wondering, "Is this what Germany was like during the Third Reich -- average people didn't really know what was going on because the media was under Hitler's control? And when they found out, it was too late to turn Hitler back from his goal of genocide."

And just where are the moderate Moslems crying out against these maniacs calling for the removal of the Israeli flag from a private residence and these maniacs screaming "Back to the ovens! Long live Hitler!"

Very dark days ahead with more and more media obfuscation and dhimmitude.

Jesus Christ Supercop...I agree, if the police lose it's anarchy...We might get that anyway...

Pete...What's yer point...it sounds like we will be better off without you...

South America is great this time of year if you can avoid those 'commercial' killers.

What kind of commerce did you say you were in?

Muslim as a religion is nothing but a blight in the human community,those who practice islamism are not but a warm very close to a wound.They just go in at the slightest chance.God in heaven who whose this people very well,will surely expose them one day.Shame will be their portion,they claim that allah is God,but that is a lie,They have not actually tell us what allah actually mean in their islamic practice and belief.I have never heard of any where were christain go after a community without a cause for it,Christianity if one relion that preaches trust and actually embraces peace,but this so-called Islam or whatever they called it just keep posing problems all over the world.These are not but earthwarm.

Muslim as a religion is nothing but a blight in the human community,those who practice islamism are not but a warm very close to a wound.They just go in at the slightest chance.God in heaven who whose this people very well,will surely expose them one day.Shame will be their portion,they claim that allah is God,but that is a lie,They have not actually tell us what allah actually mean in their islamic practice and belief.I have never heard of any where were christain go after a community without a cause for it,Christianity if one relion that preaches trust and actually embraces peace,but this so-called Islam or whatever they called it just keep posing problems all over the world.These are not but earthwarm.

Muslim as a religion is nothing but a blight in the human community,those who practice islamism are nothing but a worm very close to a wound.They just go in at the slightest chance.God in heaven who jnows these people very well,will surely expose them one day.Shame will be their portion,they claim that allah is God,but that is a lie,They have not actually tell us what allah actually mean in their own mind and in the islamic practice and belief.I have never heard of any where were christains go agaist other religion.Christianity is one religion that preaches truthness of God and actually embraces peace,but this so-called Islam or whatever they called it just keep posing problems all over the world.This religion and its participants are nothing but an earthworm.

Well, here we are bashing the palistiains while they get slaughtered, i am not from palistine or israel , but this is a shame listening to these goofy people bashing muslims and palistiains, hey to all the dodo birds out there, 60% of gaza people are christians, you are all bashing the people of the land of where jesus came from, the halucaust was wrong, days of the slavery was wrong.the way the blacks were treated in america was wrong, the way that goof ball hitler did the jewish was wrong, and the holucaust hapening now in gaza to the palistiaians is wrong.I WILL SAY THIS
,,,,,,, IF BLACK AMERICA WAS TRATED IN AMERICA THE WAY THE PALISTIAINS GET TREATED IN ISRAEL AMERICA WOULD BE ON FIRE IN ONE NITE,,,,
IT IS UNFAITR IT IS NOT HUMAN....
THIS IS NOT THE AMERICA I KNOW TO STAND HERE AND LET THIS HAPPEN,,,

EDDIE PEREZ

Well, here we are bashing the palistiains while they get slaughtered, i am not from palistine or israel , but this is a shame listening to these goofy people bashing muslims and palistiains, hey to all the dodo birds out there, 60% of gaza people are christians, you are all bashing the people of the land of where jesus came from, the halucaust was wrong, days of the slavery was wrong.the way the blacks were treated in america was wrong, the way that goof ball hitler did the jewish was wrong, and the holucaust hapening now in gaza to the palistiaians is wrong.I WILL SAY THIS
,,,,,,, IF BLACK AMERICA WAS TRATED IN AMERICA THE WAY THE PALISTIAINS GET TREATED IN ISRAEL AMERICA WOULD BE ON FIRE IN ONE NITE,,,,
IT IS UNFAITR IT IS NOT HUMAN....
THIS IS NOT THE AMERICA I KNOW TO STAND HERE AND LET THIS HAPPEN,,,

EDDIE PEREZ

First, I am a Christian, and stand by the State of Israel and it's citizens. It is unfathomable to have any police to break in (yes, to break the law themselves) just to quell violence that is causing a disturbance in the first place. Their efforts should not be made against the people who are showing solidarity with the one's who are being attacked (Israel), and are doing it in a peaceful way. The policing efforts should be against those throwing bottles, rocks, knives and the like. Having German police siding with the violent, law breaking crowd of pro-Hamas supporters (which is a Terrorist group), it is showing that it has not moved that far from where it was prior to the start of WWII and their support for having the Jewish people eliminated from the face of the earth by the Third Reich. We must not forget that the Palestinians supported Germany and the destruction of the Jews. This cannot be tolerated, and the police should have charges brought up on them for breaking into the apartment, and it should be done by the mayor or the Chief of Police....If that is not done, then Germany again shows itself to be sympathetic to the Palistinians only, and in doing that shows contempt for the Jewish state of Israel. If any police officer here in Columbus, Ohio did anything like that, they would be brought up on charges immediately. No one is above the law, especially not police, as they are held to a higher standard for upholding the law. Anyone who goes against Israel goes against God, for the Israeli people are God's chosen, and they and only they have the right to claim Israel as their own, given to them by God. God has chosen at times for the Israeli people to be evicted from their land, but he also chooses to have them reposses the land as well. It is God's will, and the Palestinian people must realize this.

EDDIE, posting a comment sometimes takes a few minutes, so be patient. You can monitor the updating process (at least in Firefox) by moving your mouse over to the side, where it changes from a cursor to a sort of clock that tells you the submission has been made and the updating process is underway. That way you can avoid multiple posts of the same message.

About your comment: You should check your data to avoid posting nonsense. According to Wikipedia, the population of Gaza today is overwhelmingly Muslim, with a small minority of about 3,500 Christians, mostly adhering to the Greek Orthodox Church. Since the population of Gaza is ~1.5 million, that means only about 3500/1500000 = 0.23% are Christian, not the grossly incorrect 60% you stated.

Eddie are you crazy or naive. Gaza is Islamic. as most of the few christian have had to leave. Muslims have burned down their churches and honor killed an arab girl who dared marry an Afro palestinian. they hate black people in Islam. Eddie Muhammad was white and he said the Black man was the DEVil and created for hellfire. Eddie Muslims lied to you. Jews are nicer to Blacks than Arabs. Muhammad aka Allah said black faces are cursed 3;106 and black men get no paradise only hellfire. Most Christians in Iraq have left. A Christian familyhas been destroyed. Muslims killed her husband and son, then cooked rice and returned her son's head to her on a platter. Eddie you go there, and if you are a light skinned man, maybe you should learn to speak Arabic. Oh by the way, black women are impure and a bad omen 9:162,3. Black men are less than a donkey's penis Ishaq 243. READ MAN.
5 MILLION mUSLIMS BABIES ARE MULTILATE YEARLY WITH MUHAMMAD SAYING DONT CUT TOO MUCH. SICK CULT. BLACKS IN PALESTINE ARE JIM CROWED AND SEGREGATED.

I've just moved my Israeli & American flag from my desk to the window sill by the front door for passerby's to take notice of.

Here's to you, Israel, and also to the couple in Germany; and I'm buying a bigger Israeli flag, soon, to hang in the front yard, too.

Go Israel!

I HAVE FOUGHT IN MANY WARS TO SO CALL HELP THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD..I STAYED IN GREMANY MANY YEARS TO PROTECT THEM IN THE GAP."10 SPECAIL FORCES,MY MUM IN LAW IS HERE CLOSE TO BOSTON ,MY WIFE IS GERMAN AND MY FATHER IN LAW SEVERED FOR 22 YEARS JUST PASSED AWAY..ALL MY IN LAWS ARE ASHAMED TO BE GERMAN NOW OVER THIS,SOUNDS TO US AS IF THE NAZI SS IS COMING BACK IN CONTROL LADYS YOU OUGHT TO HAVE PICKED UP ANYTHING YOU HAD NEAR AND BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THAT ASSHOLE..
I'M SORRY FOR THE SAD DAYS IN A LAND AMERICA GAVE ALOT OF LIVES TO MAKE FREE,I WONDER WHAT OUR DEAD TROOPS ARE THINKING NOW IF THERE IS AN AFTER LIVE..

I do not comment often, but this post makes me glad that I live in America.

Had this happened to me where I live, I would not have allowed the police to take down that flag.

I would have told them in no uncertain terms that I was a protester too, and had they persisted I would probably have ended up jailed.

Different rules for different countries. But it makes me very glad that I don't live in Germany.

I do not comment often, but this post makes me glad that I live in America.

Had this happened to me where I live, I would not have allowed the police to take down that flag.

I would have told them in no uncertain terms that I was a protester too, and had they persisted I would probably have ended up jailed.

Different rules for different countries. But it makes me very glad that I don't live in Germany.

EDDIE PEREZ

you forgot one...Hamas fireing missles over into israel wounding/killing inncocent civilians!would the african americans here in the usa let the whites fire missles into their neighborhoods daily?for yrs?i dont think so..they would fight back as israels doing,or riot and burn the cities down.60% are christians?then why are they letting hamas a terror organization terrorize its neighbor?why are they even letting groups like this operate in palestine?because theres not no 60% christians living there EDDIE!more like 95% muslims living in gaza!(The AP reported that about 3,000 Christians live in Gaza, an overwhelmingly conservative Muslim territory of 1.5 million people. It has been virtually cut off from the world and its residents driven deeper into poverty since the June takeover by Hamas, which is considered a terrorist organization by Israel and the United States.)lets change that to 99.7%!http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2007/s07120157.htm get your facts straight!

If there are genuine "moderate Muslims," here's a test to prove yourselves: Renounce the 653 murderous, hateful hadith (verses) that Jamal al Banna, brother of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna, says inspire Muslims worldwide to commit mass murder and crimes against women and children.

http://stfrancismagazine.blogspot.com/2008/12/gamal-al-bannas-critique-of-bukhari-and.html

Al Banna is a Muslim with impeccable credentials who is pin-pointing 653 hadith he thinks are despicable and evil and should be banned from Islam. Hard to believe a "moderate" worthy of the label could disagree with him, given the barbaric nature of these verses, and results like 9/11. The non-Muslim world needs a fair, accurate method to access the inclinations of Muslims. If this is not it, then what?

These hadith are direct, specific threats against members of communities. They are not vague; they are like a loaded gun held to our collective head. They are a plan for a Nazi-like "final solution." They don't rise to the level of freedom of expression, much less passibly religious doctrine. Interpretations of threats are done all the time by judges and juries. It is not hard if one has a rational and educated mind. It is time to put Islamic verse-spouting theateners under the same legal microscope as other unhinged psychotics.

MUSLIMS, RENOUNCE THE 653 HATEFUL HADITH!!!
IF YOU CAN'T, THAT IS PROOF YOU ARE A TERRORIST, PERIOD.


Most of the comments here come from Jews Or Zionist sympathizers, which results in the illusion of Jewish innocence, victim-hood and false moral superiority.

"SLAUGHTERING PALESTINIANS YEAR AFTER YEAR AT THE RATIO OF "8 to1" AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF TERRORISM AND ANTI SEMITISM IS SIMPLY "LAUGHABLE" BY ANY RATIONALITY OR COMMON SENSE LOGIC, REGARDLESS OF RELIGION OR CREED. NO EXCUSE IS CREDIBLE FOR THIS LEVEL OF TERRORISM PERPETRATED BY ISRAEL!... NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILLING BEYOND AN “EYE FOR AN EYE!”..."
(Source of ratio: BT Salem, Israeli Human Rights Group & Amnesty International)

Most of the comments here come from Jews Or Zionist sympathizers, which results in the illusion of Jewish innocence, victim-hood and false moral superiority.

"SLAUGHTERING PALESTINIANS YEAR AFTER YEAR AT THE RATIO OF "8 to1" AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF TERRORISM AND ANTI SEMITISM IS SIMPLY "LAUGHABLE" BY ANY RATIONALITY OR COMMON SENSE LOGIC, REGARDLESS OF RELIGION OR CREED. NO EXCUSE IS CREDIBLE FOR THIS LEVEL OF TERRORISM PERPETRATED BY ISRAEL!... NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILLING BEYOND AN “EYE FOR AN EYE!”..."
(Source of ratio: BT Salem, Israeli Human Rights Group & Amnesty International)

Israel is a terrorist state financed by Washington and the Jews of World Zionism!

They pushed the Palestinians off their land and either murdered or exiled them to concentration camps. Jews behaved like uncontrollable barbarians during the past sixty two years.

Stop the Palestinian Holocaust, inflicted upon the people by extremist Zion-Nazi Jews! Let the true residents of the land and their children have a life in their own homeland in peace and dignity!

Yes, too bad about the flag and the angry mob. But it's much worse that 170 children have been killed in Gaza since Israel began it's attacks 10 days ago. Hundreds of civilians are being killed and maimed by Israeli bombs and shells which are fired into dense neighborhoods. The people of Gaza have no water or electricity. It's a bloodbath.

So, flying an Israeli flag at a crowd that is angry about this bloodbath is very stupid. How shameful to be proud of Israel at this time.

As for Israel's supposed "self-defense," Israel provoked the rocket attacks by blockading and squeezing Gaza for years. Before Hamas' recent rocket barrage, the UN warned of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. If I lived in Gaza, I might be firing rockets at Israel, too.

Gaza is the Warsaw ghetto of today. Now, Israel has launched a blitzkrieg and sent in its stormtroopers for the "final solution." Take your flag and stuff it~!

At this time, flying the Israeli flag in support of Israel is as inflammatory as flying a swastika flag in Israel. Israel is slaughtering and maiming innocent people by the hundreds. Flying the Israeli flag means you support the mass murder of children in Gaza.

Israel has blockaded, squeezed and starved Gaza for years. So, Israel should have expected a violent reaction from Gaza. How did Jews react in the Warsaw ghetto?

The people of Gaza are refugees and descendants of refugees from the areas of Israel that are now under Hamas' rockets. The people of Gaza are displaced people who have been crammed into a small space. They have been blockaded and prevented from leaving.

Gaza is Israel's concentration camp. How ironic that Jews suffered in the Warsaw ghetto, but now Israel has created a Warsaw ghetto for Palestinians -- complete with blockades, starvation and blitzkrieg attacks. Israel is earning the hatred of the world.

To callback :

I never thought this could happen here in Europe either, especially in Germany, where the authoroties are (were) dedicated to protect the Jewish community from racist crimes, but the way German Police behaved today shows the crisis has reached a new step. Muslims, wherever they are consider themselves to be above the law because of their religion. You might think that because your Police in America is way more strict and efficient than ours in Europe, this kind of behaviour is not likely to occure in your country, unfortunately, politicians seems to be entirely dedicated to them, they've already started to brainwash us with their diversity, positive discrimination and " anything different from my culture has to be better " laws, they won't hesitate to step on your freedom of speech and expression to please those people. Watch out America ! Western Europe and Canada are already lost to Islam, America is in the process of being too, Islam is no longer an external danger, it has already started corrupting the country from inside, and it won't be long until sick muslim extremists access the senate if nothing's done. Civilized people ought to stop this !

Ah, the Pali apologists descend upon us like a plague of locusts.

I feel sorry for the people who had their flag removed from the window by the Police but,I feel that if by removing it, the threat of violence was diminished, then it better served the public. That is, after all, their job. Before everyone starts to bash all Muslims, I think that we should remember how all of this started in the first place. When the Jews went into Palistine back in the 1920s, 17,000 innocent Palistinians were killed, to start the occupation. Then, later, 29 pregnant Palistinian women had their babies cut from their stomachs, just for fun, by the occupying forces. I can't imagine how some people justify that kind of barbarism. I am so glad to be an non-believer.

I feel sorry for the people who had their flag removed from the window by the Police but,I feel that if by removing it, the threat of violence was diminished, then it better served the public. That is, after all, their job. Before everyone starts to bash all Muslims, I think that we should remember how all of this started in the first place. When the Jews went into Palistine back in the 1920s, 17,000 innocent Palistinians were killed, to start the occupation. Then, later, 29 pregnant Palistinian women had their babies cut from their stomachs, just for fun, by the occupying forces. I can't imagine how some people justify that kind of barbarism. I am so glad to be a non-believer.

LIES & PROPAGANDA ALERT!!

Lies and hate propaganda being espoused above by a new troll named, Doctor!, yeah right, bet he's a Doctor, by a Dr. Wm Pearson:

"Let the true residents of the land and their children have a life in their own homeland in peace and dignity!"

Posted by: Dr. Wm Pearson

OK. That would be the Jews, Doctor Bill.

Rewriting history with your lies does not translate into TRUTH, liar. Here are the facts.

1) Palestine Facts:
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_faq_palestine_whynostate.php

Excerpt from above link:

"First of all, the Palestinian Arabs do have a state. Its called Jordan. During the League of Nations Mandate period, the land originally set aside by the League of Nations as the Palestine Mandate was supposed to provide for a national home for the Jewish people. The British were given the authority to manage the Mandate and help the Jews make the transition to independence. Instead, almost 80% of the original Mandate land was carved out and arbitrarily made into the Arab country of Trans-Jordan (later renamed Jordan). In all the land of the Mandate east of the Jordan River it was "No Jews Allowed". West of the Jordan, the 20% part of the Mandate, the British restricted Jewish immigration and gradually adopted policies that were more and more pro-Arab. Palestinian Arabs are the majority of the population of Jordan even today."

"All of Israel today, and the Jewish lands historically called Judea and Samaria (now the West Bank) plus Gaza are entirely within the 20% slice of the British Mandate left over after the creation of Transjordan. The British Mandate Overview page gives a table with the details of this geographical distribution of the Mandate lands."

"In all of the history of the region, there never was a Palestinian Arab state. The Palestinian Arabs are not a distinct people. With very few exceptions, they are a highly mixed group of immigrants from all over the Middle East and even further regions: Assyrians, Persians and Romans from ancient times, Turks, Armenians, Greeks, Albanians, and Italians, Afghans, Kurds, other Europeans including Germans, Bosnians, Circassians as well as Egyptians, Bedouins, Algerians, Sudanese and many others who have been identified in the population. Most of today's inhabitants can trace their history in the Palestine area no further than the early 20th century when many came to Palestine attracted by the Zionist prosperity and, after World War I, the political stability of the British administration of the Mandate."

"Palestinian Arabs have been offered the opportunity to create a state many times, starting with plans advanced during the British Mandate which the Arabs rejected. Then the United Nation partition plan of 1947, which brought Israel into existence, included a nation for the Palestinians, but the Arabs rejected it. Over the decades since there has been plan after plan that would bring peace to the region and a state for the Palestinians: all they had to do was let Israel live in peace. Arabs rejected all these plans, up to and including at Camp David in 2000 and Taba in 2001, and kept the armed struggle going."

2) Timeline of Israel:
http://contenderministries.org/middleeast/timeline.php

i'm a muslim livin in d united state. i believe islam means peace. im appealing 2 all muslims let go accordig 2 the book of ALLAH and respect ourselves as human. i'm not in surpport of the killing jewih and muslim. to you condemners stop givin false quoting of the 2 booke coz i study both books

Appeasement + Chamberlain = Continuation of Nazi Germany; anybody remember that?

The Star of David should have been left hanging in the window. Even in Germany there is modified "freedom of speech"!

The German Jews said "Nie wieder!"; now, every Muslim in the world is against them. Hang in there, Jews of the world!

Having recently visited Europe; I should not be surprised by the fact that German police removed an Israel flag from a private residence....but I am. One would think, after more than a horrific footnote in history, that Germany would recognize the bullying tactics of an organized thug: thugs of muslims choosing to create an atmosphere of violence no less! I'm thinking the phrase "never again" needs to be taught in European schools.

hawa salaam -- please make a sign stating your grievances and then join the protests in your area. Get out there and make your voice heard!

Dr. Wm. Pearson, you must be crazy. I am not a hater of man, any man, 8-1 you said. Well please allow the Christians and animist in southern sudan to kill 3 million Arab Muslims for killing them. Since you say fair. The south didnt have Arab money, so many died from Arabs murderers. SUBMIT TO ISLAM OR DIE says allah aka muhammad. The christians chose to die than submit to the DEVIL/Allah. Sura 3:54 All Blacks killed and not one word from men like you. Palestianians honor kill their women if they marry a black palestianian muslim. go do your doctoring over there if your brains are so deleted. malpractice!

Why would anyone want to put an Israeli flag in their windows in Germany when a Muslim demonstration was already taking place? There's enough trouble in the Middle-East and enough bloodshed throughout the world without encouraging more.

Intent to cause further agitation? Perhaps.


It sounds like preparations for a Spanish "bullfight."

Why would anyone want to put an Israeli flag in their windows in Germany when a Muslim demonstration was already taking place? There's enough trouble in the Middle-East and enough bloodshed throughout the world without encouraging more.

Intent to cause further agitation? Perhaps.


It sounds like preparations for a Spanish "bullfight."

It is sad what is happening in the world. BUT IT IS TO BE EXPECTED. Revelation tells of what is coming and everything is on schedule. The End Time seems closer than ever.

Sadly, many "good people" are Muslims, the ones that want to live in peace with everyone else, but they are blind to the evil in Islam as stated in its own texts. It is the existance of these poor, misguided masses who think that the Islamofascists merely misrepresent their religion, instead of being the real essence of Islam that they are, which continues to fool the world into not eliminating it.

A couple of flags removed and that's a big deal!
But no remorse at hundreds of innocents including children killed by the Israeli military. It is amazing to see so many people blinded by their hatred of another group of people. We paint a whole group of people with a wide brush accusing them of acts that are no way near in scale to what is being done by Israel right now. Don't let the hatred of other people make you so blind.

It is sad what is happening in the world. BUT IT IS TO BE EXPECTED. Revelation tells of what is coming and everything is on schedule. The End Time seems closer than ever.

Sadly, many "good people" are Muslims, the ones that want to live in peace with everyone else, but they are blind to the evil in Islam as stated in its own texts. It is the existance of these poor, misguided masses who think that the Islamofascists merely misrepresent their religion, instead of being the real essence of Islam that they are, which continues to fool the world into not eliminating it.

All posts on this board are offending posts. Realy, I don't feel that I am in America? it just feels there are a bunch of NeoCon, spew their hates at a very peaceful people " the Muslims"
You are a bunch of rude people, as a flock who support a fascist an occupier force" Israel"?
Muslims and Arabs didn't ever come to accupy your land or kill your people. You, Schmuchs, went there to their land and rooted them out of their residence, some of them, left their houses bare feeted. That your good deed? For fact, you came equipped by the west's guns to a defenseless, peaceful people all along, I mean the Palestinian people, and you rooted them out of their land after 1813 years of owning that land without interruption.
I read history, you alleged that the Jews own that land?
But, you staid there without interruption about 700 years, then you were overcame by the Parsians, and then, by your internal conflects, and finally, the Roman, by Titus' Roman legions in A.D. 70, helping precipitate another diaspora or dispersion of the Jewish people to other nations, but not in Palestine? and the last for you in 135 A.D the Roman destroyed you temple and pulled out for good. The Roman rules at that time" no jewe is allowed in Palestine except some Rabbis in Jerusalem?".
Most likely, you went to Eastern Europe, you spreaded Judaism in Europe, so you had some followers, what we call now" Eshkinaz"!!
Muslims put foot in Palestine in about 633 A.D, they took the deed to Palestine from the Roman? At the time there was no single Jew to negotiate with?
After 1878 year of your absance, you, the Zionism leaders, remembered there was a home land for you in Palestine,you convence yourself, it is there, and let us go and grap it?
According to your plan, with every saphisticated wicked knowledge you had accomulated, you used it right to convence a Westren Politicians, who are with interests, overwhilmly zealous to have foot step in the Middle East, you got Belfour promises in 1917 for a home land in Palestine ?
So, unfortunately,the British had mondate from the United league to govern Palestine in the 40's of last century?????
Then, at that you had it done?
The British were the Jury and the judge?
They facilitated every avenue for you to slip inside Palestine from everywhere?
As you are a people of favor denial, used to bite the hand of whoever do you a favor? Your gangs under the leadership of Manachem Bagin bombed a British big gathering at King David hotel in Jerusalem, killed a lot of British personnels in around 1936??
Now, we know that your illegal occupation, and its ironical manner, in which many people around the world are upset to see you as occupiers, don't like to negotiate peace with Palestinians, in spite of their willingness to recognize your existence as a sovereign state on their occupy land, but, instead, you want to destroy the Palestinians, in order, to have all Palestine as Pure Jewish State?
Jewish state? what an apartheid entity?
An other thing" Why the norms are up side down?' Khalid Mashaal is a Palestinian to the core, from a Palestinian father and mother is not allowed to enter this what we call" Jewish state", but Peres, and other Israelis who are by the way" Eshkinaz" most of them were born in Hungary or Germany or any any other place, are allowed to be in Palestine, the land of Khalid Mashaal, and his grand, grandfathers? A terrific fact is, It is well known the Ashkenaz, has every thing in Israel, but the Sephardims are discreminated against, they live inferior life, low jobs, and low pay, and in the same time, even housing are in slum areas?
Sephardims, are Jews originally from Middle East countries, and Ashkenazis, originally from Europe.

As per German police behavior is nothing compared to Israeli army behavior in Gaza? Why the fuss?
Mike Hanson from Chicago.

All posts on this board are offending posts. Realy, I don't feel that I am in America? it just feels there are a bunch of NeoCon, spew their hates at a very peaceful people " the Muslims"
You are a bunch of rude people, as a flock who support a fascist an occupier force" Israel"?
Muslims and Arabs didn't ever come to accupy your land or kill your people. You, Schmuchs, went there to their land and rooted them out of their residence, some of them, left their houses bare feeted. That your good deed? For fact, you came equipped by the west's guns to a defenseless, peaceful people all along, I mean the Palestinian people, and you rooted them out of their land after 1813 years of owning that land without interruption.
I read history, you alleged that the Jews own that land?
But, you staid there without interruption about 700 years, then you were overcame by the Parsians, and then, by your internal conflects, and finally, the Roman, by Titus' Roman legions in A.D. 70, helping precipitate another diaspora or dispersion of the Jewish people to other nations, but not in Palestine? and the last for you in 135 A.D the Roman destroyed you temple and pulled out for good. The Roman rules at that time" no jewe is allowed in Palestine except some Rabbis in Jerusalem?".
Most likely, you went to Eastern Europe, you spreaded Judaism in Europe, so you had some followers, what we call now" Eshkinaz"!!
Muslims put foot in Palestine in about 633 A.D, they took the deed to Palestine from the Roman? At the time there was no single Jew to negotiate with?
After 1878 year of your absance, you, the Zionism leaders, remembered there was a home land for you in Palestine,you convence yourself, it is there, and let us go and grap it?
According to your plan, with every saphisticated wicked knowledge you had accomulated, you used it right to convence a Westren Politicians, who are with interests, overwhilmly zealous to have foot step in the Middle East, you got Belfour promises in 1917 for a home land in Palestine ?
So, unfortunately,the British had mondate from the United league to govern Palestine in the 40's of last century?????
Then, at that you had it done?
The British were the Jury and the judge?
They facilitated every avenue for you to slip inside Palestine from everywhere?
As you are a people of favor denial, used to bite the hand of whoever do you a favor? Your gangs under the leadership of Manachem Bagin bombed a British big gathering at King David hotel in Jerusalem, killed a lot of British personnels in around 1936??
Now, we know that your illegal occupation, and its ironical manner, in which many people around the world are upset to see you as occupiers, don't like to negotiate peace with Palestinians, in spite of their willingness to recognize your existence as a sovereign state on their occupy land, but, instead, you want to destroy the Palestinians, in order, to have all Palestine as Pure Jewish State?
Jewish state? what an apartheid entity?
An other thing" Why the norms are up side down?' Khalid Mashaal is a Palestinian to the core, from a Palestinian father and mother is not allowed to enter this what we call" Jewish state", but Peres, and other Israelis who are by the way" Eshkinaz" most of them were born in Hungary or Germany or any any other place, are allowed to be in Palestine, the land of Khalid Mashaal, and his grand, grandfathers? A terrific fact is, It is well known the Ashkenaz, has every thing in Israel, but the Sephardims are discreminated against, they live inferior life, low jobs, and low pay, and in the same time, even housing are in slum areas?
Sephardims, are Jews originally from Middle East countries, and Ashkenazis, originally from Europe.

As per German police behavior is nothing compared to Israeli army behavior in Gaza? Why the fuss?
Mike Hanson from Chicago.

Well, the German police were being practical. I find what the Israelis are doing in Gaza very reprehensible, but I am not a big fan of riots. Much better, especially in Germany, to write letters and donate money to relief groups, and pray, if one is so inclined.

Israel's current military policies are distinct from the Israeli people, to my mind, and certainly distinct from their dominant faith.

Melissa

Amber Pawlik wrote an article on Islam some time ago.

http://www.amberpawlik.com/IslamonTrial.html

You can look up the verses she quotes here:

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/HolKora.html

The "religion of peace" is full of hate.

Sean, thank you for your heart felt post. I virtually everyone here shares your concerns. (BTW, it would be great if you could lay off using ALL CAPS. Thanks.)

hawa salaam, not too sure how to read/interpret your post. We prefer standard English on this site, as a sort of universal language that everyone can understand, instead of texting abbreviations. Some of us old fuddie-duddies haven't learned that language and have a hard time making out what you're trying to saying! Thanks! ;-)

Sheesh - In the last sentence of my previous post, "trying to saying" = "trying to say"

"Doctor" Peterson:

Are you on any hallucinogens besides the quran?

The Israelis did not steal palestine from the palestinians. That's just plain horseshot. EVEN IF THEY HAD, it would be irrelevant to the fact that this war was initiated by hamas who hide cravenly behind civilians, and TARGET jewish non-combatant purposefully.

Every time the media show innocents suffering, I want to shout "BLAME HAMAS."

You know who really did steal land? UNCLE SAM. The USA was , in fact, REALLY stolen from the native americans and Mexico. Do you hear any SANE people advocating native americans have a revolution against the USA? or that Mexico should attack us?

We're here in the USA. The Israelis are in Israel. Try to stay in touch with reality and join the civilized world.

This is a war of defense and I hope the IDF eliminates EVERY single Jihadist and sends them back to the middle ages, (where it seems they prefer to be in any case).

TruthSeeker & Mike Hanson:

Neither of you either know the Truth, nor do you write the Truth regarding Islam. If you did, then you too would be pointing out the lies within Islam, and pay little attention to comments. Yeah, people are angry over Islam, because it's a filthy "religion" based upon lies -- based upon a LIAR.

Lets start with prophet Muhammad. He was an evil man who lied, stole, and murdered to get his way. Take the time to study the Truth About Muhammad, as that will reveal why most terrorists are Muslim, and why anyone with half a brain is angry about that.

Islam be gone!

"Doctor" Peterson:

Are you on any hallucinogens besides the quran?

The Israelis did not steal palestine from the palestinians. That's just plain horseshot. EVEN IF THEY HAD, it would be irrelevant to the fact that this war was initiated by hamas who hide cravenly behind civilians, and TARGET jewish non-combatant purposefully.

Every time the media show innocents suffering, I want to shout "BLAME HAMAS."

You know who really did steal land? UNCLE SAM. The USA was , in fact, REALLY stolen from the native americans and Mexico. Do you hear any SANE people advocating native americans have a revolution against the USA? or that Mexico should attack us?

We're here in the USA. The Israelis are in Israel. Try to stay in touch with reality and join the civilized world.

This is a war of defense and I hope the IDF eliminates EVERY single Jihadist and sends them back to the middle ages, (where it seems they prefer to be in any case).

"Doctor" Peterson:

Are you on any hallucinogens besides the quran?

The Israelis did not steal palestine from the palestinians. That's just plain horseshot. EVEN IF THEY HAD, it would be irrelevant to the fact that this war was initiated by hamas who hide cravenly behind civilians, and TARGET jewish non-combatant purposefully.

Every time the media show innocents suffering, I want to shout "BLAME HAMAS."

You know who really did steal land? UNCLE SAM. The USA was , in fact, REALLY stolen from the native americans and Mexico. Do you hear any SANE people advocating native americans have a revolution against the USA? or that Mexico should attack us?

We're here in the USA. The Israelis are in Israel. Try to stay in touch with reality and join the civilized world.

This is a war of defense and I hope the IDF eliminates EVERY single Jihadist and sends them back to the middle ages, (where it seems they prefer to be in any case).

It is interesting, and disheartening, to read of a few on this blog who are so blinded by their own predjudices that they spew out all sorts of half truths and outright lies. The "progressives", aka liberals, are so adept at this, that is the pot calling the kettle black, it is so easy to identify one. Misrepresentation of and misreading history is their forte. They, somehow, cannot or will not recognize truth. A prime example here is their refusal to accept that the Muslim doctrine requires of its adherents to perperate the acts of terrorism that is killing so many people. They go further in their dillusionment to blame the victims of these acts of terror when they fight back as Israel is doing now. It is impossible to reason with a liberal. They have the function of rationality missing from their brains, so I merely condemn and dismiss them.

It is interesting, and disheartening, to read of a few on this blog who are so blinded by their own predjudices that they spew out all sorts of half truths and outright lies. The "progressives", aka liberals, are so adept at this, that is the pot calling the kettle black, it is so easy to identify one. Misrepresentation of and misreading history is their forte. They, somehow, cannot or will not recognize truth. A prime example here is their refusal to accept that the Muslim doctrine requires of its adherents to perperate the acts of terrorism that is killing so many people. They go further in their dillusionment to blame the victims of these acts of terror when they fight back as Israel is doing now. It is impossible to reason with a liberal. They have the function of rationality missing from their brains, so I merely condemn and dismiss them.

Whats going on here, with all these ignorant people trying to ignite hate and racism.

Islam is a religion of peace and submitting your will to god alone. simple

No such thing as Jihad was never mentioned in the Quran or the Authentic Hadith of prophet.

Jihad true meaning is to strive or to struggle not to kill innocent people like the media is perpetrating and constantly bombarding the news with it.

People here are so ignorant to judge a religion when they know nothing about it.

Take for example the Jews (the chosen people to be thrown in hell fire god willing) the problem here is not orthodox jews but the Zionist jews and Christians are the source of the world's problem.

Funny christians siding by jews on here. but only if they knew how disgusting is the talmud and what satanic rituals it teaches and i wonder how people call it a religion its all satanic verses inciting hatred for non jews including christians

for example talmud mentions:
If a Jew to rape a gentile (christian) it is permissable for him.

Jew is allowed to commit incest
Jew can steal and kill a gentile and be permissable for him.


what kind of a religios scriptures would write that.

As for the ex muslim, trust me we dont need u in islam, one more person added to the hell fire god willing ull roast in it eternally.

So people need to rise up and raise another Hitler to put all the zionist including mentally challenged christians and jews in a gas chamber and exterminate them once and for all.
peace

Whats going on here, with all these ignorant people trying to ignite hate and racism.

Islam is a religion of peace and submitting your will to god alone. simple

No such thing as Jihad was never mentioned in the Quran or the Authentic Hadith of prophet.

Jihad true meaning is to strive or to struggle not to kill innocent people like the media is perpetrating and constantly bombarding the news with it.

People here are so ignorant to judge a religion when they know nothing about it.

Take for example the Jews (the chosen people to be thrown in hell fire god willing) the problem here is not orthodox jews but the Zionist jews and Christians are the source of the world's problem.

Funny christians siding by jews on here. but only if they knew how disgusting is the talmud and what satanic rituals it teaches and i wonder how people call it a religion its all satanic verses inciting hatred for non jews including christians

for example talmud mentions:
If a Jew to rape a gentile (christian) it is permissable for him.

Jew is allowed to commit incest
Jew can steal and kill a gentile and be permissable for him.


what kind of a religios scriptures would write that.

As for the ex muslim, trust me we dont need u in islam, one more person added to the hell fire god willing ull roast in it eternally.

So people need to rise up and raise another Hitler to put all the zionist including mentally challenged christians and jews in a gas chamber and exterminate them once and for all.
peace

'All posts on this board are offending posts. Realy, I don't feel that I am in America? it just feels there are a bunch of NeoCon, spew their hates at a very peaceful people " the Muslims"'
Posted by "Mike Hanson from Chicago."

Mikey, you really should pay a little better attention to what you read. Not every poster here is an American. And if you'd leave the little bubble you are in and get out and about a little more, you'd see that the Americans posting here ARE the real America. Sorry if this makes your head explode.

By the way, what was your original name before you changed it to Mike Hanson?

Someone claiming to be "Mike Hanson" says "Muslims and Arabs didn't ever come to accupy [sic] your land or kill your people."

Someone who is really from Chicago would know about September 11, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks

The situation that confronts us arises from an almost impossible problem.

The Jews, Christians, and Muslims all base their religions on fictional people and fictional sources.

Thus, we observe wars based on what various groups of people choose to believe about their favorite novel. No wonder there is no end to these problems.

I can't disagree, Skyliner. But the reality of the situation is that we're all being forced to pick a side to be on. I know which side I'd rather associate with.

German authorities have an obigation to make sure citizens are not putting themselves or others at risk.

If the angry mob in the street began to throw items at the window with the Israeli flag hung in it,but missed causing damage to the property below or god forbid harming the people living there I wonder what the hysterical opinionators would be saying today.

'Suicidal' zionists can be just as dangerous to un-involved German nationals as the angry mob in the street below spewing thier bile.

Sorry to rain on some JW's parade but normal people dont want to have to sleep with one eye open for the rest of thier lives because of one persons ignorant attitude.

Someone claiming to be "Sam" says:

1) "Islam is a religion of peace and submitting your will to god alone. simple"

2) "As for the ex muslim, trust me we dont need u in islam, one more person added to the hell fire god willing ull roast in it eternally.

So people need to rise up and raise another Hitler to put all the zionist including mentally challenged christians and jews in a gas chamber and exterminate them once and for all.
peace"


If roasting and gas chambers are your religion's idea of peace, perhaps we should all chip in and buy the Middle East a dictionary.

To Mike Hanson:

"Moslems are a very peaceful people..."

That is a rather preposterous thing to say, Mike. It identifies you as an ignoramous absolutely out of touch with the news, or mentally ill and out of touch with reality.

Moslems a prone to violence. When i say this, I put myself AT RISK for violent retribution.

Jihad must be eliminated. My only hope is that it is BEFORE Islam starts WWIII when one of your "very peaceful" holy men martyrs himself with a WMD.

sam -- you are without a doubt the most evil and hateful poster I've read to date on JW. Gawd, you're evil.

Islam be gone!! One day it will be.

peaceful like mohamed the pedophile rapist murderer ?

KIll the Jews where ever you find them.
We need another hitler soon.

Any 1 siding by the Jews shall be Slaughtered as well

Whoa -- the trolls really like this thread -- could it be the photo of the Israeli flag that drew them?

Go Israel!! We love You!! We support You!!

Careful, sam, your peaceful side is coming out, LOL! You wouldn't know the meaning of peace if it bit you between your two big toes.

Zionists aren't Jews. They're just US-financed thugs and moral runts.

Victory to the Palestinians.
They are doing humanity a great service.
Somebody must stand up to Unc' Sam and his Tel Aviv junkyard dogs.

I guess der polizei detest zionists,too.
Good for them.

This is starting to look like the Slavery/AIDS issue where the crisis wasn't real until the Wealthy/white/Elite/Intelect/Liberals noticed the problem so they could exploit it to appear as more Moral then us peons.

First off.

Muhammad only opposed Slavery when non-African/Arab people owned them , these are his very own words when he set up rules for owning slaves because Muslims were superior with Human Rights( BTW, slavery is still alive in Islamic rule areas).

Next.
AIDS was wiping out millions of non-White Africans and creating newborns with AIDS that merely waited for that final day while no doubt being a Orphan by then.

But now we have islam that is in the guise of a Peaceful way to tame the West and bring Human Rights while stopping all wars.
Whats so ironic about that Muslim mob and the Israel flag is that I have seen some Gay-Spectrum flags that support these murderous thugs that want to slautghter every jew on Earth and over run Israel to make it another hell-Hole like Gaza.....But do these Rosie/Ellen types
not see that when the Muslim get enough power is will be the Rainbow flags in the Gay villages being stoned and torched while the Police have to scurry them away ?

Once islam and these Muslim thugs kill-off the jews they will find another group to spread Muahmmad hatred towards to unite the Muslims in this Islamic Pyramid-Ponze Scheme of hate and destruction , islam brows because they have about 5 billion non-Muslims to tap into and the basic odds show that there is a big pool of newer Useful-Idiots in Hollywood and gay America.

Rosie and Ellen should only look at Iran and Gaza to see their future once the Islamofascists get some real power to storm into gay areas and murder at will since the Leftists Politicians have turned the Police into Social-Workers with guns and nice cars with lights and sirens.

I still say that the only good news is that the islamists thugs at CAIR will murder-off these useful Idiots first and do us a favour by cleaning the Gene-Pool of the Simpleton-gene or village-idiot gene that is void of any Survival Instinct.
Our battle cry will come when we see Rosieand Ellen on a Jihad video getting there heads sawed off with a dull knife as they plea for us to understand that islam=Peace and that poverty and US agression made them peaceful people Murderers and savages.

If you believe in the existence of Satan then read on. If not, don't bother, you will not get it.

The Holy Bible IS the Word of God. It is the Word of the Lord. There are no other true religions but that which worships the God of the Holy Bible.
All other doctrines or religions have been invented/fostered by the great deceiver, Satan.

From the beginning he, Satan, was the lier, always trying to emulate God to be a a god. It was always his way, is his way and always will be his way because he hates God and wants to supplant Him. In the end he will lose, but he will cause a lot of suffering in this world meanwhile.

This concept is so alien to our secular world that it seems silly for people to discuss it, much less believe in it.

While I am saddened by so many people in the world being deceived by Satan, my Christian religion does not order me to force it upon anyone. However, that is exactly what Islam requires. {From http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/islamvsinfidels/index.htm. Islam is a religion based on a warrior code. Leading Islamic clerics herald the coming conquest of Rome. Islamists are involved in over 22 active conflicts across the globe. The bloodletting against nearly every civilization from Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jewish, Chinese to African animist and even Muslim countries, demands attention: some of the worst, most hate-driven violence in the world today is perpetrated by Muslims and in the name of Islam, in China | India | Sudan | Algeria | Afghanistan | New York | Pakistan | Israel | Russia | Chechnya | Philippines | Indonesia | Nigeria | England | Thailand | Spain | Egypt | Bangladesh | Saudi Arabia | Ingushetia | Dagestan | Turkey | Kabardino-Balkaria | Morocco | Iraq | Yemen | Lebanon | France | Uzbekistan | Gaza | Tunisia | Kosovo | Bosnia | Syria | Mauritania | Kenya | Eritrea | Syria | Somalia | Iran | Iraq | California | Kuwait | Virginia | West Bank | Ethiopia | Iran | Jordan | United Arab Emirates | Scotland | Louisiana | Texas | Tanzania | Germany | Pennsylvania | Belgium | Denmark | East Timor | Qatar | Maryland | Tajikistan | Netherlands.

Currently, I know of no Christians chopping off anyone's head for them to convert to Christianity

BTW

Hey Hillary .

"It takes a Village-Idiot to let someone esle raise your child"

Good luck with the Middle east muslim thing.

Dr. Fanon -- you're a hateful individual as well. God, I hope you aren't a real doctor. Some doctor if you are.

It's horrifying to know that there are evil people like yourself, sam, and others, who are walking the streets with hearts and minds filled with so much vile hate as yours.

The Jews have every right to defend their precious Israel!!

Besides, the Palestinians already have a state, it's called Jordan. Or haven't you heard. You need to get out more.

...Slouching toward Eurabia to be born.

I've banned "sam," but left the comments up. His mindset is rather instructive, one minute insisting that Islam is a religion of peace and there's nothing about jihad in the authentic hadith, and the next moment calling for a new "Hitler" and the destruction of Jews and their allies.

Alot of the posts on here are thoughtful and intelligent. Then there is Sam and Dr. Wm. These individuals to NOT seem to know history, geography or the religions they've commented on. The Palistinines NEVER had their own country.....period, end of sentence. Islam, however well intended, is NOT a peaceful religion (most religions aren't peaceful, btw.) and Germany states it is a Democracy but openly supports anti-semetic activities; as do the French and much of Europe. Soon europeans will see the fruits of their trust when Islam openly oppresses THEM in their own countries. What a sad commentary on the people indorsing the Islamic religion. Sam, Dr. Wm....wise up; read and most importantly LEARN!

Muhammad, according to mainstream Islamic scholars, said "If a Muslim changes his religion, then kill him." The statement is found in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, both canonical Islamic sources. That is why all the schools of Islamic law advocate the death penalty for apostates.

There is so much more that is reprehensible in Muhammad's behavior as described by Islamic sources, but his death penalty for apostasy, and the seriousness with which mainstream Islam takes it, should tell any sane, decent person that Islam, despite some good elements within it, is either sick, or evil, or both. It is a cult (in the bad sense) with a billion plus members, whose most active and textually well-founded members seek to establish a totalitarian worldwide theocracy in which non-Muslims are second class citizens subject to all sorts of discrimination. We already see it starting in Europe, as the Islamic population increases there.

Even medieval Muslim Spain, treated in some popular texts as a kind of paradise, is acknowledged to have been the scene of numerous murderous pograms against Christians and Jews, particularly when the non-Muslims achieved positions of power in the Islamic state. The book Jewel of the World, while trying to make medieval Islamic Spain look halcyon, admits at certain points that non-Muslims were subject there to various discriminatory and humiliating laws and rules.

To the politically correct and multiculturalists: yes, accepting and welcoming the Other is great, but not every Other. Once in a while the Other represents mainly fanaticism, dictatorship, and deception, even though individual Muslims can be lovely people who manage to remain mostly innocent of the evil thrust of Islam.

Even in Indonesia, supposedly the proof that Islam is compatible with democracy, Aceh is apparently run according to Islamic law, Christian churches are periodically burned down, Christian school girls are beheaded by Muslim fanatics, and people are prosecuted and threatened with five years in jail for the horrific crime of...talking about Christianity to non-Christians! Mustn't allow free speech about religion, after all, it's an Islamic country! But let's have more and more Muslims come to the West, what the hell. It only took thousands of years to achieve the modest elements of civilization we possess, so what the hell if we now go back to the dark ages, right? Let's have Islamic law, oh boy!

There are moderate Muslims, but Islam is not moderate. And since the "moderate" Muslims virtually never come out and protest against Islamic terror, and apparently don't give a damn that well over ten thousand people have been murdered by Islamists all over the world since after 9/11, and the murdering continues daily (just check out the stats at religionofpeace.com) -- since the moderates prefer to spend all their protest time complaining about "insults" to Muhammad or "Islamophobia," we can guess how much help the moderate Muslims will be when the Islamists seek to take over Europe, state by state, in the coming decades, as the Muslim population there grows by leaps and bounds due to very high birth rates and loose family reunification laws, and as the non-Muslim population shrinks due to very low birth rates.

ala-sux rosie and ellen would be allowed to die, but all gay men are forgiven. Q 4:14-15.

Sam is gone, but he says the same line of deceit. Jews all came from Israel, not europe until rome sent them there as slaves in 70 CE and 135 Ce. Still there were Jews left in Israel.
Muslims were not invented until 7th century and then thru the sword. Why cant allah do it and why make stupid men kill for him. Isnt he God?
smile. Yes he is the god of evil and scheming and lying/deceiving Sura 3:54.

While it is true that we can find misguided Christians in history that did some terrible things we can say with certainty there is nothing in the New Testament that permitted or instructed Christians to do those things or to force anyone to believe in Jesus as the Lord God.

Christianity is a religion of peace and freedom of choice. This does not mean that it condones the wrong choice, on the contrary, the wrong choice is sin and does not glorify God, therefore it is wrong. However, the freedom is there.

As I mentioned in a previous note, it is Satan's ploy to imitate God to entrap man. He uses these tricks in many ways and very often he uses them with the liberal (Socialist)agenda. For example, liberals say that it is charitable to pay taxes because the money is needed for the poor. So you see, something good, charity, is subtly turned into something that loses its definition of "giving from the goodness of one's heart".

Another example is the liberal's cry for peace. The Prince of the Air, Satan, through his minions throughout the world are creying out for Israel to accept "Peace". What a wonderful sounding request. Peace at what cost? At the cost of the constant erosion and eventual elimination of Israel as a nation! Ah, Satan is so cunning.

The viciously antisemitic and hateful postings by assorted 'pro-Palestinian' Hamas terror and jihad supporters, in the thread above, despite the 'western' style names which I do not believe for one second to be their actual names, but rather, adopted for camouflage purposes, appear to me to be the work of jihad-minded Muslims.

Their highly intemperate language - a spew of screaming rage, descending at times into total incoherence, heaping lies upon lie, half-truths mixed in with total fictions, and topping it off with insults - bears out in spades the wise words of Dr A Carlebach, writing in the Ma'ariv journal on 7 October 1955, and oft-posted here on other suitable occasions.

Here are Dr Carlebach's remarks again, for the benefit of any new non-Muslim readers who may have been somewhat flabbergasted by the sheer bizarrerie of what 'sam' et al have posted.

"These Arab Islamic countries do not suffer from poverty, or disease, or illiteracy, or exploitation; they only suffer from the worst of all plagues: Islam.

"Wherever Islamic psychology rules, there is the inevitable rule of despotism and criminal aggression.

‘The danger lies in Islamic psychology, which cannot integrate itself into the world of efficiency and progress,

;that lives in a world of illusion,

'perturbed by attacks of inferiority complexes and megalomania, lost in dreams of the holy sword.

‘The danger stems from the totalitarian conception of the world,

' the passion for murder deeply rooted in their blood,

"from the lack of logic, the easily inflamed brains,

'the boasting,

'and above all: the blasphemous disregard for all that is sacred to the civilized world...{cf. what happened in the Nariman House, to the rabbi and his wife, at the hands of the Pakistani Muslim jihad assassins}

'their reactions -- to anything -- have nothing to do with good sense.

'They are all emotion, unbalanced, instantaneous, senseless.

' It is always the lunatic that speaks from their throat.

'You can talk 'business' with everyone, and even with the devil. But not with Allah..." END QUOTE.

Q. E. D.


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Hmmmm I wonder if the advocates of Islam would agree with the above statement. I think not. The written and spoken agenda of Islam is to see the end of western civilization, and all who do not adhere to the teachings of Allah. DO NOT be mistaken: theirs IS a violent overthrow of democracy. Jews/Christians have no such agenda that I am aware of.

Nightrider: your posts are articulate and thought provoking...thx

Michael Jacobs,

Those are good ideas that mention before, such as Doctors declaring Islam an Mental Illness, and an illegal offense to follow Islamic Guide Lines. However, if the government, the authorities and even to an certain extent some of the people of that country(That are too afraid to confront them, in fear of being called an racist/Islamophobia, being verbally or even physically attack by these Islamic Savages and hence are afraid to use what you had to suggested), does none of those things that you suggested early(even though I do apology for not answering your post/comment earlier)

Hence we have to defend ourselves from such Islamic attacks/riots/incursions, if its verbal-debate them and they will show their true colors, and if its physical-defend yourself or defend the people that you care about or your fellow countryman(Hence, the right to Bear Arms and tells the Islamics to backoff or face the consequences), because if the authorities does nothing to protect our freedoms, our rights as human being, and our rights to our properties, then who will? Which is also another reason why they are becoming ever so bolder in following their Islamic beliefs and enacting them within our own country and the countries in Europe and around th world, because our governments are not doing anything about it, due to their fears of being called racists, or the fear of being physically harm, so in other words we must defend ourselves first and foremost, incase the Government, the Authorities and some of the people does nothing to defend those liberties, human rights and private properties.

What the hell happened in here today?

Clearly we need to put Israeli flags everywhere and we need to sue every time anyone, including law enforcement, deprives us of our right to fly them. If corralling Muslims means raping our freedoms and laws, then let the Muslims run loose. Let the National Guard come and deal with them. If an Israeli flag causes the Army to be brought out because Muslims are barbaric, genocidal savages, then bring it. I hope it comes to that soon. When it happens, decent useful idiots will get with the program. Nobody will be able to deny the intolerability of the evil in our midst.

More provocations!

Winning Lawsuit!!!

Muslims have killed over 2 million black in Sudan and not a peep. Islam says that allah created black to be slaves to whites and black were created for hellfire after being used for slavery.
Black American converts say nothing. All they do is make up an arabic name, wear ninja turtle outfits, and have 4 wives and put them on welfare.
America is my home and we invited them in and now they demand we observe their laws. I say kick them out and clean house. Harvard led the way in the cultural acceptance as they have separate swimming pools for Muslims because others are impure. Didnt we have a civil rights movement over that crap. Now Islam uses freedom of religion to do the same thing! Muslims say Islam is not a religion but a way of life. Do we give tax-free to ways of life? They need to be sued, the entire umma. They are all responsible. If you are a Muslim and Islam accepts pedophilia then you are a pedophilia helper. Ashnas they are called in Afghanistan. You dont join a cult unless you support the evils of it. Lying, murder, incest, pedophilia, FGM, anything else evil, racism, especially hatred of blacks and women. Torture, wars, occult, slavery, outright Satanic practices as stated in the Quran. Q. 65.4

When politicians put their hands on the Quran, they are lying. The Quran said allah is the greatest liar, deceiver, schemer Q. 3:54


TIME TO BECOME AMERICAN OR GO HOME!!!!!!!!!!!

After reading all of the comments, and after really tinking about it, I still agree with the dicision of the Police to remove the flag. What could have happened if there were not enough Police in the area to protect the owners of the flag? The action of the Police might have saved some life. Don't blame the Police. They have an obligation to keep order and to keep the peace. They did what they thought was best.

After reading all of the comments, and after really thinking about it, I still agree with the dicision of the Police to remove the flag. What could have happened if there were not enough Police in the area to protect the owners of the flag? The action of the Police might have saved some life. Don't blame the Police. They have an obligation to keep order and to keep the peace. They did what they thought was best.

I still believe in suing the pants off the cops for removing and for breaking an entering and barging in without a warrant. They are wrong and they would lose in court. If the cops must rape our freedoms to corral Muslims then Islam can't be tolerated. This proved it. I hope Sebastian sues them and I know that he will win when he does because they simply had no right to do that, just like the Egyptian cop had no right to tell DS to stop filming, just like they can't tell counter-protesters to disperse or put down their flags.

Again, they should have surrounded the protesters and arrested everyone who was breaking the law. They used a second wrong to right a wrong and violated the rights of citizens.

"If corralling Muslims means raping our freedoms and laws, then let the Muslims run loose. " Thank you jdam for your insight! Tilly has a remarkable grasp as well. You both are my new heroes! :) Unfortunately though - Germany while stating it is a democracy, has a missing or partial amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

While this is the American Constitution in part; I would be interested in knowing the German Constitutional counterpart. Anyone know?

"If the cops must rape our freedoms to corral Muslims then Islam can't be tolerated. This proved it."

The assemblage of Muslims never seem to be peaceful or even have an ounce of tolerance for another person's right to believe differently. Islam is not and never will be a religion of human rights. They are about as tolerant as the SS party in Pre-war Germany which seems to be lost on the government of Germany today....

Sebastian M. should consult with an attorney and see if any of his rights were violated.

He should also contact German Jewish associations and the media in Israel - just to make sure the courts don't try to make this disappear.

I seriously doubt whether the German media will pick this up without outside influence.

The Central Conference of German Jews is protesting this event:

http://www.pi-news.net/2009/01/zdj-protestiert-gegen-abgehaengte-israel-fahne/

Sorry the report is in German.. you can use a translation site if you really must..

"This video has been removed by the user"

'Mike Hanson from Chicago.'


Did you see the synagogue in Chicago Mike? We don't want that here. This is not Israel nor is it Gaza. Nip it in the bud, bud. If someone like the Latin Kings, the Crips, or the Mongols, or Red Neck Jimmy's bunch from the south side get involved it ain't going to be pretty. They are asking for it. capisca? We've got to settle it down.

No matter what we think of the history of the middle east. They have no right to break the law and practice intimidation here. If you think I'm over the top, I'm not. Just a word to the wise, is all.

If it keeps up, Ibraham Hooper is going to be on TV, ...alot.

Sam, is your first name ...Son of?

Thank the Mods you're banned. Maybe you can still read, maybe.







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What they’re saying about Robert Spencer
“My comrade-in-arms, my pal, my buddy.”
Oriana Fallaci

“Robert Spencer incarnates intellectual courage when, all over the world, governments, intellectuals, churches, universities and media crawl under a hegemonic Universal Caliphate’s New Order. His achievement in the battle for the survival of free speech and dignity of man will remain as a fundamental monument to the love of, and the self-sacrifice for, liberty.”
Bat Ye’or

“Robert Spencer is indefatigable. He is keeping up the good fight long after many have already given up. I do not know what we would do without him. I appreciate all the intelligence and courage it takes to keep going despite the appeasement of the West.”
Ibn Warraq

“America's most informed, fearless, and compelling voice on modern jihadism.”
Andrew C. McCarthy, Senior Fellow at National Review Institute

“Robert Spencer is the leading voice of scholarship and reason in a world gone mad. If the West is to be saved, we will owe Robert Spencer an incalculable debt.”
Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

"The consummate Islam critic and expert." — Bruce Bawer

“Over the years, we have become friends, and I have received his assistance on several pieces of legislation I proposed.”
Former Congressman Tom Tancredo

“Few people are capable of applying scholarship, analytical reasoning, and objectivity to their topic -- while simultaneously being readable and witty -- as can Robert Spencer.”
Raymond Ibrahim

“A national treasure...The acclaimed scholar of Islam.”
Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy

“I am indeed honored to call him my friend.”
Brad Thor, novelist

“A top American analyst of Islam....A serious scholar...I learn from him.”
Daniel Pipes

“A brilliant scholar and writer.”
Douglas Murray

"One of my best teachers."
Ashraf Ramelah, Voice of the Copts

“Thank God there’s at least one man with balls left in the West.”
Kathy Shaidle, Five Feet of Fury

“I read people like [Mark Steyn] and Bob Spencer and the rest of them, and I say, ‘Boortz, you’re pretending you’re an author. These people really are. They really write some entertaining, some standup stuff.’”
Neal Boortz

“Robert Spencer is the Stephen King of Jihad.”
Chris Gaubatz, Muslim Mafia

“Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization.”
Michelle Malkin

“Widely read in conservative foreign policy circles.”
New York Times

“Widely read in many quarters in Washington.”
Washington Post

“A canny operative who likely has the inside track on the State Department’s Middle East affairs desk should the tea party win the White House.”
New York Magazine

“A hero of the American right.”
Karen Armstrong

"The leading anti-Islamic intellectual in the United States....The go-to Islam expert for the right wing."
Salon Magazine

“Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”
Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

“One of the nation's most notorious Islamophobes.”
Hamas-linked CAIR

"Geller and Spencer are probably the most important propagandizing Islamophobes in the world. These people's voices speak very loudly — not just here in the United States but overseas."
Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

“Satanic ignoramus.”
Khaleel Mohammed

“The Likud anti-Christ.”
Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

“Zionist Crusader, missionary of hate, counter-Islam consultant.”
Al-Qaeda’s Adam Gadahn, “Azzam the American”



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