"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
Not terribly surprising since he also once said that 9/11 was planned by America. As this report points out, however, Salah Sultan is not just another hate-preacher appearing on Arab TV; he also "holds U.S. permanent residency status and, according to one federal law enforcement official, travels regularly on a U.S. passport." Moreover, he is on several prominent U.S. Muslim boards and committees -- many of which (no doubt temporarily) removed his name from their websites and membership lists immediately after MEMRI translated and posted his tirade.
"Top American Islamic Cleric Threatens U.S. on Egyptian TV," by Patrick Poole for Pajamas Media, January 7:
Islamic cleric Salah Sultan appeared on Egypt’s Al-Nas TV last week and delivered a warning of death and destruction for America. Not only did he attack the U.S. for its military support of Israel in its fight against the Hamas terrorist organization, but he vowed retaliation such that more Americans would be killed than those Palestinians (and, presumably, Hamas terrorists) killed in the present conflict in Gaza, emphasizing that this would take place “soon”:"America, which gave [Israel] everything it needed in these battles, will suffer economic stagnation, ruin, destruction, and crime, which will surpass what is happening in Gaza. One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon."
He also invoked a notorious Islamic hadith on the inevitable annihilation of the Jews by Muslims:
"The stone, which is thrown at the Jews, hates these Jews, these Zionists, because Allah foretold, via His Prophet Muhammad, that Judgment Day will not come before the Jew and the Muslim fight. The Jew will hide behind stones and trees, and the stone and the tree will speak, saying: 'Oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.' The only exception will be the Gharqad tree."
This harangue would be nothing new on television in the Islamic world; in fact, it is commonplace. What is unique about Sultan’s threats against America is that he holds U.S. permanent residency status and, according to one federal law enforcement official, travels regularly on a U.S. passport. And as I have reported [1] elsewhere, Sultan is pursuing U.S. citizenship (the status of his application is unknown due to federal privacy laws). Thus, Salah Sultan has lived quite comfortably for more than a decade under the protections of the very country he now threatens with death and destruction.
It should be noted that Salah Sultan is not some obscure figure in the American Islamic world. He serves as a member of the [2] Fiqh Council of North America. Touted as the top Islamic governing body in the U.S., the Fiqh Council is an arm of the Islamic Society of North America. Sultan founded and served as president of the [3] Islamic American University in Southfield, Michigan; he was the national director of tarbiyah (Islamic instruction) for the Muslim American Society; and he continues to operate the [4] American Council for Islamic Research, based in my hometown of Hilliard, Ohio.
Sultan’s Al-Nas TV appearance last week was [5] recorded and [6] translated by the indispensable Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). Curiously, as soon as MEMRI published the video clips of Sultan’s harangue, references to Sultan’s membership with the Fiqh Council were scrubbed from its website. His name has been removed from its [7] list of council members, even though he appeared there as recently as early last week. However, Sultan is still listed as a member on the Fiqh Council’s [8] brochure posted online (no doubt that will be remedied as soon as they are informed of this report)...
Read it all.
"What is unique about Sultan’s threats against America is that he holds U.S. permanent residency status and, according to one federal law enforcement official, travels regularly on a U.S. passport. And as I have reported [1] elsewhere, Sultan is pursuing U.S. citizenship (the status of his application is unknown due to federal privacy laws)."
I will sign a petition to recede both his residency and passport. He should not return the the US. If he does, he should be arrested and shipped to Guantánamo.
Never submit.
NEVER SUBMIT!
Protester Calls for Jews to 'Go Back to the Oven' at Anti-Israel Demonstration
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477450,00.html
I don't know how to communicate this to Robert. But enough is enough. This is pure hate speech.
I am so angry.
With these kind of threatening comments,Salah Sultan needs to be arrested immediately the moment he steps on to US Land.
America has laws that apply to threats made over electronic devices of any kind such as phones, recording devices,videos,Etc. These threats made electronically are descibed in penal codes as felonies and are intitled as a charge of --"Terrorist Threat made through electronic device(s)".
BTW I meant to say that I want Robert to know of this occuring in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I don't know where to send him e-mail.
Yes of course Mackie. But Salah Sultan and his minions all voted for Obama. Obama owes them something..........
How does that make you feel now?
The Muslim world will fail eventually. They live in the past and can't compete with the current environment.
Christopher Hamilton
The Right Opinion, for the Right Wing
This should be grounds for prompt deportation, if he did not yet manage to become a citizen. If he so managed, it is grounds, or should be, for arrest and a long prison term. If laws do not currently exist to make this kind of threat punishable, then pass them, posthaste.
Captain America.....
I emailed him the page from Fox News with the link. I am sure he hasn't seen it yet, otherwise it would be here!
NEVER SUBMIT!
This POS needs to be DEPORTED! NOW!!
Oh No - Is the Mohammedan nightmare still continuing? Every day is more shocking and depressing while the Apologists and Appeasers stand by letting the Barbarians take over the world.
Most Muslims coming to the West from those countries from which Jews have been expelled - have actually never met a Jew before. They were brainwashed from childhood learning to hate them as part of their religious education. So evidently, when they come to the West, it is painful for them to accept that there are Jews who are actually breathing the same air they do.
What I would recommend is SENSITIVITY TRAINING FOR EVERY MUSLIM COMING TO A WESTERN COUNTRY FROM A MUSLIM COUNTRY THAT HAS NO JEWISH INDIGENOUS POPULATION, AS PART OF RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
Let them have a taste of their own medicine.
NEVER SUBMIT.
DO UNTO MUSLIMS AS THEY DO UNTO US! INFIDEL 1:1
INFIDELS ARE NOT AFRAID. PASS THE WORD ON TO MUSLIMS!
Wait, I recognize those eyebrows... It wouldn't be the first time that Sesame Street's Bert has gone over to the dark side.
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
And "Happy New Year" to you too, pal!
Why did he wait until after the 1st of the year to cheer us all up? This is more a Merry Christmas to you and your family message / sarc at your service.
"The Muslim world will fail eventually. They live in the past and can't compete with the current environment."
I agree, but during the time it takes for them to "fail eventually" (a few decades? 50 years? a century?), they will try to mass-murder countless numbers of us in various places. We can and should do everything in our power to minimize this.
Deport all muslims that have had an education in hate. That would be most of them born here and
all born in islamic countries.
When they stop educating their children in hate we will let them in again. That would take about 50 to 75 years for this education of "hate the kuffar is goog kill him is better" to fade.
Guys like this are actually a net positive for truth and I wish we had thousands of them circulating around in a high profile. The real insidious evil that plagues us are the liberal American born citizens who destroy us like a cancer from within, of which this chump is only a manifested symptom. The disseminators of lies via the media and academia are a thousand times more destructive to everything good than all these types of chumps combined and multiplied then put together. Without them, idiots like this wouldn't be walking our soil PERIOD!
Did anyone see this in the Jerusalem Post today? Iran next?
In response to the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry announcing the expulsion of all embassy personnel, the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem said that Israel will continue to protect itself from its enemies, amongst them Hamas and Iran, Israel Radio reported.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231167285283&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
This man should be prosecuted and deported or jailed for a long time. Write polite letters to your congresspersons and senators urging this.
"America, which gave [Israel] everything it needed in these battles, will suffer economic stagnation, ruin, destruction, and crime, which will surpass what is happening in Gaza. One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon."
Gee, Isn't that just a little too disproportionate?
What happened to his sense of proportion?
I guess that only applies to Israel...
This guys brains are out of proportion to the size of his head...Lot's of empty space between the ears...He probably should be barred from the US as a national threat, especially after he shamelessly ran his evil mouth off...
'The evil thought is the father of the evil deed...'
Here we have a provocation that can only lead to a concundrum.
Some, just plain American Tom, Dick, or Mary is going to get fed up, not with just this type of person taunting and denigrating our nation,
BUT..The appeasing by the Government of the United States of America that, not only allows, but acquiescces to it.
When that person acts out on his or her own in the way I fear, they will be subject to prosecution by US law. (Think of a couple of
Border Agents). We will be paying for both the prosecution and the defense.
Now remember. He is encnouraging one element to act in a way, which should he be the victim on American soil, a multi-million dollar prosecution will ensue.
Don't doubt for a second that the potential provocations aren't already scripted.
But, who give's a.......?
Evidently only you and I and a few.
Says a lot for how little our neighbors and fellow citizens think of this country and us.
Think of it. This parasite's hot air is worth more than your life!
Based upon what you have provided..".. he holds U.S. permanent residency status and, according to one federal law enforcement official, travels regularly on a U.S. passport. And as I have reported [1] elsewhere, Sultan is pursuing U.S. citizenship (the status of his application is unknown due to federal privacy laws)."
It's only a matter of time, place and opportunity as to when this episode begins.
""One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
From the article.
Yea, yea, yea. If you're through venting, please go back to your cave.
@Marisol -- "Wait, I recognize those eyebrows... It wouldn't be the first time that Sesame Street's Bert has gone over to the dark side."
Heh, heh. That's very good. If he's Bert, then who would be Ernie and Big Bird?
Then the fact that Obama's church re-printed the Hama's manual.
it seemed to escape mention that Obama never denouced the actions of the pre-planned blood bath that occurred in 2006 when Obama and his fav cousin Odenga went to campaign to safe-haven terrorsts in kenya to turn kenya into a SHARIA LAW state. Also, Obama never denounced the pre-planned blood bath that was scheduled for USA placed in the press 2 days before elections occurred. To present Mr. Obama has not denounced SHARIA LAW either.
The Art of Taqquay
In the terrorist handbook it condones the using of taqquay--meaning terrorists are instructed to tell their victims what they think the victim wants to hear to hide the terrorsts true nature of their intent till it's too late.
To the present a few days ago the United Nations voted and passed SHARIA LAW then 24 hours later in Pakistan 30 christian families were kicked out of their homes and land and their possessions because PAKISTAN is now SHARIA LAW.
We might as well face it they really don't like US at all and it's no longer safe for anyone to travel anywhere.
How many still have yet to know that as a result of not tying our
exit to political progress PAKISTAN is under SHARIA LAW and the UN a
few days ago passed to accept "disguising" under the term "fairness
doctrine" sharia law. Hoping people would be too stupid to research
to dig further than the title before voting on something; and that here in the
US, also hoping no one would notice it means---it's punishible by death
to anyone whom claims the rapes, murders and criminal activities of
muslim/islam/sharia law commit are "bad". and that it is a "crime" to be any religion other than muslim.
If the US allows itself to be bamboozled into accepting SHARIA LAW it
would mean
1. it would be "manditory" to set free from prison all those
criminals and put them back out onto the street to continue to commit
crimes. why?? Because the SHARIA LAW KORAN states that muslims are
"superior" (yep it says superior about it) and therefore, exempt from
prosecution for any and all crimes committed towards NON-muslims
because NON-muslims have no rights, no freedoms, no money, no homes,
no land and no possessions. (yep it's stated in koran)
2. It would be that "forced" female mutilation would become
the norm in the US why?? because it is condoned by the SHARIA LAW.
3. it would mean that NON-muslims would be required to pay a tax for
the "mere" reason non-muslims are non-muslims. Therefore non-muslims
would have to pay a "tax" to keep from being killed and the tax is
due and payable anytime the muslims want it--in order to keep the
muslims living in the lifestyle they want to be "accustomed" to
living in at the expense of the Non-muslims of USA and any other
country--this is their spread the wealth program. Incidentally,
spread the wealth is a marxist/socialist/communist motto in history
used by them and it also happens to be that SHARIA LAW is a
facist,marxist,socialist,communistic based group.
4. It would mean it is a crime punishble by death to be a religion
different from muslim.
As a result of not tying our exit to political progress??? Pakistan
is now SHARIA LAW and UN has passed the SHARIA LAW and 24 hours later
in PAKISTAN 30 christians were kicked out of their home and land and
put out on street with nothing because they are non-muslims and the
country is now SHARIA LAW.
So, we might as well face the facts the UN doesn't like us very much
and it's no longer safe for American's to travelHowever, here is one "more" reason---If the USA were to ever allow
itself to be bamboozled into accepting SHARIA LAW in the banking
sectors:
But, we are going to give you one reason more
5. it would mean that it would mean that one day American's will wake
up to find they have no home, no land, no money, no possesions. Why???
Because SHARIA LAW states that Muslims are "superior" (yep it uses
word superior about it) therefore Mulsims are "entitle" to own all
NON-muslims land, home, possesions and money and at a "timed deemed
appropriate" by Muslims the Koran "commands" that the Muslims Jihad
to forcibly take non-muslims land, home, money and possessions.
why??? Because according to the Koran--the Koran is the "rule" of law
(yep, it uses word rule about it) and muslims are to "rule" over
"servants" (yep it uses word servant about it) whom are the
NON-muslims. The Koran also states that any Nations treaties,
charters, laws, amendments and constitution are NOT enforceable over
the KORAN.
The Koran also states that the religion is NOT separateable from the
law therefore, everyone would have no constitution or charters, or
treaties or laws to protect their Nation from being overrun by SHARIA
LAW. The American Center for Law and Justice did a whole write up on
this.
The ACLU is one of "the" most anti-American/freedom groups active in
our Nation and schools today.
Want to know what one of the founders of the ACLU said about what
they think about Americans???---American's would never "knowingly"
vote for Socialism, however, "disguising" it under the term
"liberalism" American's would accept every fragment and one day wake
up in a Socialist nation and "wonder how" it could have all happened
to them.
This is Norman Thomas brand of vocalization towards the American
Public.
Don't believe it?? here's the quote from Norman Thomas quote
American's will never knowingly accept Socialism, but under
liberalism Americans will accept every fragment and one day wake up
in a Socialist nation and wonder how it all happened. Unquote.
Sooo, what we need to wonder is how the DEMS can think they can
continue to count on American's being as "stupid" as the DEMS and
ACLU think American's are so they can further their
socialistic/communistic/marxist/facist agenda.
whom was the great orator whom said--Tolerance becomes wrong and EVIL
when given and applied to criminals.
whom was it whom said--All that is needed for tyranny to reign is for
good men to do nothing.
whom was it whom said--those whom don't learn from history are doomed
to repeat history.
If this is the first time you are hearing about all this well take
heart. Do 'you" want to sit idly by and allowing our families to be
put at risk; on the "off chance' that someone else will do the work
of talking to friends neighbors towards all things "political".
Prior to elections we constantly had to complain to the REPUBLICANS
because no one would let us post because we don't post Pro Obama, no
one wanted to know the truth.
So, we had to file with the Justice Dept because to the present the
problem persists.
This is still a BY THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE
government and we need as a nation to LEGALLY and LEGISLATIVELY not
leave WASH DC alone, until everyone of our freedoms are iron-clad
protected and make sure we make it clear WE THE PEOPLE will have
LONG, LONG memories should even 'ONE' legislator in WASH DC wish to
"shirk" their responsibility in protecting our flag, our allegience,
and our seal and our freedoms. Just say "no" to sharia law in all
forms. pure and simple.
Here is a California penal code section that should apply to
Islamic cleric Salah Sultan---you be the judge.
Also note at the bottom of the definition.Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code.Another words this is applicable to federal law as well.
Penal Code
SECTION 422-422.4 :
422. Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which
will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with
the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or
by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a
threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out,
which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made,
is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to
convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an
immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes
that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own
safety or for his or her immediate family's safety, shall be punished
by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison.
For the purposes of this section, "immediate family" means any
spouse, whether by marriage or not, parent, child, any person related
by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree, or any other
person who regularly resides in the household, or who, within the
prior six months, regularly resided in the household.
"Electronic communication device" includes, but is not limited to,
telephones, cellular telephones, computers, video recorders, fax
machines, or pagers. "Electronic communication" has the same meaning
as the term defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of
the United States Code.
If laws do not currently exist to make this kind of threat punishable, then pass them, posthaste.
Posted by: Hugh at January 7, 2009 11:40 AM
--
There are laws on the books concerning treason. Fat chance we'll ever see them enforced though.
Mackie, can a citizen go their local DA and demand this be enforced?
And sure, here we all go (myself included up to now at least).
"Shouldn't a DA be able..." ... "We should have a law" ... Historical tid-bits, gossipped grousings, constitutional projections, blame gaming, canonizing the obvious...slamming away harmlessly on a blog site...WOW.
Don't get me wrong, well, OK, get me wrong if you so wish, but we've become a sorry lot.
Will we take to the streets when a prosecutor lays hands on Tom, Dick or Mary, or whoever acts on US protected mouthy mullahs?
I imagine 'Americana' will slam away on blog sites in slippers with al the legal, historical, political and moralistic expertise as Sunday-sofa quarterbacks whose feet never knew cleats call plays for instant re-play.
And do I challenge myself, yes, I do. Shamefully, I must.
Mackie, thanks for you post. It's interesting that the penal code goes out of its way to include the phrase "...any person related by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree..." which appears to include brothers and sisters, children and grandchildren, parents and grandparents, but not uncles/aunts, cousins, etc. It's not clear how step- or half- relationships would be treated.
He is not (yet) a American.
He never will be a real American. Hes not even a leading American.
He will always be a "Muslim American". He will always be a follower of islam, first, and that ends of story.
I think this post by CJK earlier in the thread is worthy of repeating.
Guys like this are actually a net positive for truth and I wish we had thousands of them circulating around in a high profile. The real insidious evil that plagues us are the liberal American born citizens who destroy us like a cancer from within, of which this chump is only a manifested symptom. The disseminators of lies via the media and academia are a thousand times more destructive to everything good than all these types of chumps combined and multiplied then put together. Without them, idiots like this wouldn't be walking our soil PERIOD!
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
He may be right with Panetta overseeing the CIA to make sure they’re not too rough interrogating terrorists for info. I think that a lot of idiotic people who really never grew up, if put in charge, would see a city blow up and be proud knowing that they didn’t stoop to waterboarding to prevent it.
Salah Sultan needs to be deported, his U.S. residency terminated and his passport confiscated. Back to the sandbox for this boy.
Seriously, the government needs to round him up and send his ass back to whatever hell hole country he came from.
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
I think someone needs to remind this mad little Muslim dog that this has already happened at the hands of the Peaceful religion of Islam...it was called 9-11.
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
I think someone needs to remind this mad little Muslim dog that this has already happened at the hands of the Peaceful religion of Islam...it was called 9-11.
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
I think someone needs to remind this mad little Muslim dog that this has already happened at the hands of the Peaceful religion of Islam...it was called 9-11.
"One of these days, the U.S. will suffer more deaths than all those killed in this third Gaza holocaust. This will happen soon"
I think someone needs to remind this mad little Muslim dog that this has already happened at the hands of the Peaceful religion of Islam...it was called 9-11.
I'm fairly sure that he should be on a firing line. This is defined in US Military code as treason.
Punishable by DEATH.
Semper Fi
More and more rats are becoming muslim. They want to go to muslim heaven. It is not clear what allah, muhammed or the Devil will have for them, 72 virgin rats or 72 virgin muslims women.
You know I just got to thinking, wouldn't it be funny to take that 300 billion from Saudi Arabia, and spend it all on arms for Israel, then print the worthless paper, and give it right back. Just a drop in the bucket at this point, and it would be fun.
I just spent about 30 minutes looking at this A$$hole's web page and some of his videos. "Muslim Cleric" is the perfect title for this piece of $#!+. Here is an example of his "Islamic Logic" as it pertains to wearing a T-shirt with a Red Cross logo on it.
Is it permitted to wear a T-shirt with the Red Cross sign on it? The answer is no it is not permitted because it has the sign of a religion which we do not believe in and we believe that the crucifixion of the Prophet Jesus is definitely not true as Allah the Almighty said: "but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them," and whoever imitates people he is like them. But it may be possible to reshape this cross using colours or thread so that you could still make use of the T-shirt, for our prophet PBUH has prohibited wasting time and effort in rumors and wasting money.
So I guess it would be OK to turn it into a swastika or something. In fact that would be a better logo for the Idiots of Islam... a crescent moon with a swastika instead of a star.
Ummah Gummah
I think this evidence can be brought forth to the local inforcement where Salah Sultan resides in the US and either the DA or the police should have a report written along with the evidence. The report should also be given to the local office of the FBI.
The federal code statue should also be noted Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code. This is clearly do able if the right people get involved.
All the "Shoulds" and nothing's happening.
From above:'So I guess it would be OK to turn it into a swastika or something. In fact that would be a better logo for the Idiots of Islam... a crescent moon with a swastika instead of a star.'..... At this point the neo-nazis might even take this as defamation, and rightfully so in the opinion of many. As incomprehensible as this may sound, in my opinion islam will show itself to be worse than even Nazism.