Haven't seen him lately
Bin Laden has disappeared for long stretches before, and then popped up again, and they're saying the voice is a match, but the question is once again unavoidable: if he isn't dead, why not a videotape? Anyway, bin Laden here speaks of a "duty" to wage jihad -- this is based on the Islamic doctrine, held by all schools and orthodox sects, that jihad, rather than being a collective obligation of the Muslim community, becomes an obligation of every individual Muslim if an Islamic land is attacked.
"Bin Laden urges jihad against Israel," from The Associated Press, January 14 (thanks to all who sent this in):
CAIRO, Egypt: Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments for preventing a holy way in a new message Wednesday aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over Israel's Gaza offensive.Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages — his first tape since May and his first since Israel launched its offensive in Gaza against Palestinian Hamas militants nearly three weeks ago.
"There is only one strong way to bring the return of al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God," bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. "The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades."
"Muslim nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength — without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance," bin Laden said.
The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed, but the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous messages.
The tape, entitled "Call for jihad to stop the aggression on Gaza," was played over a still picture of bin Laden and the al-Aqsa Mosque, but without the English subtitles and flashy production effects that usually accompany such messages....
He's really behind, every terrorist already called for Jihad a looong time ago. It's very passé now...
He's really behind, every terrorist already called for jihad a looong time ago. It's very passé now...
Honest Ibe sure must be happy to hear from his idol and "herrow" again.
If he's actually alive, he could look like a walking zombie, and not very photogenic...It may be possible that 'no video' means that his henchmen do not want Mahounds, or kufrs see him in that condition...
Maybe he wants the followers to log into the pay-subscription site to get the video. ;P
But seriously, I think that if he's not dead, then at least he's in rough shape. This guy never looked like a sturdy or rugged type. I bet his spoiled rich pampered ass isn't used to living on the lam.
Either that, or else they don't want the video to reveal the sex-change operation he's had to undergo, just to keep the rest of the world from finding him.
Either that, or else they don't want the video to reveal the sex-change operation he's had to undergo, just to keep the rest of the world from finding him. - Posted by Sanman
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Maybe now he's that 7-foot-plus tall Pakistani woman who, despite having had her request for asylum in the UK denied 3 times (the reason for that being claims that her height made her a target for discrimination in her native country), is still going to be able to stay there. And ON THE DOLE.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111555/7ft-2in-Pakistani-womans-asylum-bid-rejected-allowed-stay-Britain.html
OBL = Dead man dubbing
On a more musical note:
Via post by Shiva at IBLOGA, enjoy Roy Harper performing "Black Cloud of Islam" [.. a song . . .written in 1989]
Looks like he is rolling one of his boogers and is about to flick it.
Dirty monkey!!
Looks like a one of those Madame Toussant wax figures...flicking an IEB. Explosive Booger! HAR!
Go bite a pillow Osama, friggin canal pal.
Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald:
The Strategic Studies Institute has just published this biased filth of HAMAS propaganda under the guise of providing "recommendations" to "solve" the Israel-HAMAS/Gaza problem. In other words, the author, Dr. Sherifa Zuhur stresses that the West and Israel must stop coining HAMAS and Hizbullah, as well as Iran, as terrorist organizations and states and more so as political identies, in order to create and maintain peace and order - and oh yeah, return the land back to the "struggling" and "resisting" Palistinians. PLEASE see this link ASAP and protest with the same urgency:
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=894
Thank you!
I expect that there are several reasons that there was no video.
1) The terrorist intelligence services (a.k.a. the main street media) did such a good job explaining how our intelligence services obtain clues from the video backgrounds. Now, al Qaeda knows that that audio reduces the risk of unintended disclosures.
2) Paranoia as Massoud was killed by al Qaeda using a bomb hidden in a video camera.
3) Itinerant life requires that he pack lightly.
4) Audio may be a more accessible format to a wider spectrum of his intended audience. This format was used by Khomeini while in exile to establish the foundations for the Iranian revolution.
5) There are no advantages for him to use video instead of audio.
5) There are no advantages for him to use video instead of audio.
Posted by: Jim
Well actually there is if he is still alive and photogenic...It's called 'a picture is worth a thousand words'. A moving picture many more.
He's dead. This is canned stuff from back in the day.
The jihadis have to maintain the illusion that Osama Bin Forgotten is still alive to keep the petrodollars rolling in.
I'll bet on his 100th birthday, they will trot out an audio of Osama reading his grocery list just to prove that he is still alive.
Why doesn't someone hold up a recent issue of a news paper to pin point roughly the Month Osama made his tirades.
Any person with a Magic 101 handbook will know that the trick is to make several predictions or comment hidden in several places and then pull out the one that matches the claim you make.
OBL makes 40-50 tapes based on a predicted future for variables, once one of the items occur the PR team merely grabs that video and fools people into thinking . Go ahead and make 2 videos for the Super bowl where both teams win, then wait for the game to be over and impress your friends by pulling out the tapes where you insist that team would win.
After all, what are the chances that hamas would cause another war in gaza. That's like the Psychic that predicted that a Hollywood star would be in the newsin 2009 for a drug or alcohol problem that stops their career until they get help.
Test...it wont let me post on Botros thread...
Voises from the grave, preaching love and brotherhood, only a progreive can understand.
Voises from the grave, preaching love and brotherhood, only a progreive can understand.
Voises from the grave, preaching peace and love only a progressive can understand.
Voises from the grave, preaching peace and love only a progressive can understand.
Voises from the grave, preaching peace and love only a progreive can understand.
Voises from the grave, preaching peace and love only a progreive can understand.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
Heidi-Thanks for the post. It was quite relevant. I sent my opinion in. It is obviously written by a biased author. For that woman to establish as "fact" that hamas has been repeatedly offering peace to Israel for 8 months during 2008 is obscene. I pointed out to her that "peacemakers" don't lob off rockets on a consistent basis. I also pointed out that our Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton has categorically denied any "talks" with hamas, since the bottom line is they refuse to recognize Israel is a sovereign state.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.
Whoa. That's bin Laden? The past seven years have not been kind to his appearance. Ew...
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What's with the 'Cairo' in the article? He's who-knows-where and Al Jizz is in Qatar.
Al Jizz has really devoted itself to the jihadist cause. They used to be fairly respectable. Thank you MEMRI, Raymond, staringattheview, and anyone else who translates and decodes their taqiyya'ed doublespeak.
What's with the 'Cairo' in the article? He's who-knows-where and Al Jizz is in Qatar.
Al Jizz has really devoted itself to the jihadist cause. They used to be fairly respectable. Thank you MEMRI, Raymond, staringattheview, and anyone else who translates and decodes their taqiyya'ed doublespeak.
Time to bulldoze Al-Aqsa and rebuild the Temple already.
I think he's probably alive. War is indeed deception, so why tip off the enemy for certain that you're alive when you can keep them in the dark?
I think he may still be alive. If "war is deception" then why notify your enemy that you're alive?
Jihad against Israel being urged as a new tactic? What would you call the endless attacks - military, economic, and propagandistic -waged against Israel since 1948? What were the multi-fronted Arab attacks against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973 (plus intifadas I and II, and Hezbollah's attacks from Lebanon in 2006), the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes in Munich, the countless bombings of schools, restaurants, buses, ad nauseam? Cribbage games?
Jihad against Israel being urged as a new tactic? What would you call the endless attacks - military, economic, and propagandistic -waged against Israel since 1948? What were the multi-fronted Arab attacks against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973 (plus intifadas I and II, and Hezbollah's attacks from Lebanon in 2006), the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes in Munich, the countless bombings of schools, restaurants, buses, ad nauseam? Cribbage games?
Jihad against Israel being urged as a new tactic? What would you call the endless attacks - military, economic, and propagandistic -waged against Israel since 1948? What were the multi-fronted Arab attacks against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973 (plus intifadas I and II, and Hezbollah's attacks from Lebanon in 2006), the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes in Munich, the countless bombings of schools, restaurants, buses, ad nauseam? Cribbage games?
Jihad against Israel, all of sudden, as a new, never-before-used tactic? What would you call the multi-front Arab attacks waged in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973? What would you call Hezbollah's attack on Israel in 2006? What about the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes at Munich, the hijacking at Entebbe, Intifada I and II, the endless bombings of restaurants, schools, and buses within Israel? Cribbage games?
Jihad against Israel, all of sudden, as a new, never-before-used tactic? What would you call the united Arab attacks waged in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973? What would you call Hezbollah's attack on Israel in 2006? What about the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes at Munich, the hijacking at Entebbe, Intifada I and II, the endless bombings of restaurants, schools, and buses within Israel? Cribbage games?
Jihad against Israel, all of sudden, as a new, never-before-used tactic? What would you call the united Arab attacks waged in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973? What would you call Hezbollah's attack on Israel in 2006? What about the 1972 murders of Israeli athletes at Munich, the hijacking at Entebbe, Intifada I and II, the endless bombings of restaurants, schools, and buses within Israel? Cribbage games?
An old man drooling does not make for good video.
There's really no way of knowing if this is recent--this sort of canned Islamic rhetoric regarding Israel and Gaza has been floating around for years now. Also, even when you know that a Jihadist is speaking contemporaneously, they often fall back on the same tired, shop-worn slogans--after all, they are mouthing a very old concept--killing and being killed in the path of Allah.
Bin Laden's reference to "the return of al-Aqsa" is very much like referring to Gaza as being "occuppied" by Israel, after--even *years after*--they had completely pulled out.
Even though the al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site of the temple in Jerusalem, it is under the control of the Islamic Waqf council. Jews and other non-Muslims are often barred from entering the premises. Fridays and Muslim holy days always trump Jewish holy days. Jews and non-Muslim visitors to the Temple's Western wall are frequently pelted with rocks by Muslims standing by the mosque above them.
While it is extremely difficult for Israel to build anything on the site--even a handicapped ramp was protested as a supposed attempt to undermine the foundation of the mosque--building by Muslims is common. Most often, there is no Israeli or international oversight of this construction.
Archeologists have charged that the Waqf council is intentionally destroying pre-Islamic archeological evidence and artifacts, both for political reasons--it strengthens the spurious case that this is a Muslim space, and was never the site of the Temple--and because *any* pre-Islamic matter is traditionally considered to be "jahiliyya"--worthless.
Despite the great measure of control--out of all proportion--that Muslims have over the al-Aqsa mosque and its environs, Muslims like bin Laden will never be satisfied until it lies in an entirely "Palestinian" Jerusalem. In other words, the mosque won't be truly "returned" until the destruction of Israel.