Muslim “reformist”: “Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one.”

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Al-Qaradawi has been praised by establishment dhimmi Islamic scholar John Esposito as a champion of a “reformist interpretation of Islam and its relationship to democracy, pluralism and human rights.” He counts among his friends Ken Livingstone, former mayor of London. And he wants to kill Jews in the worst way.

“Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi Incites Against Jews, Arab Regimes, and the U.S.; Calls on Muslims to Boycott Starbucks and Marks & Spencer; Says ‘Oh Allah, Count Their [i.e. the Jews’] Numbers, And Kill Them, Down To The Very Last One,'” from MEMRI (video here), January 12 (thanks to Kasper):

Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon delivered by Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 9, 2009:

To view this clip, visit [here]

“The Islamic Countries… Received [the Jews] With Open Arms [When They Were Banished From Europe]… [But The Jews] Turned Their Backs On [Us], And We Have Become Their Victims”

Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi: “I address my first message to the aggressor Jews, those arrogant plunderers, who act arrogantly toward the servants of Allah in the land of Allah.

[…]

“In the past, the Jews spread corruption in the land twice, and Allah punished them both times, by setting as masters upon them people who tormented them, humiliated them, and made them bow their heads.

According to Qur’an 5:33, the penalty for spreading “corruption in the land” is crucifixion or the amputation of a hand and a foot on opposite sides.

This is what they did in history, and it is well known that Allah set as master upon them the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, who took them into captivity. He destroyed their homes, razed their temples, and burned their Torah, and took them into captivity in Babylon for 70 years. Then they repeated their deeds, so He set the Romans as masters upon them.

[…]

“The Jews have lived as dhimmis in our land for a long time, and no Muslim violated the covenant with them. They were free, and were among the richest people of the nation. It reached the point that the Muslims envied them. They were close to the sultans, the kings, and the rulers of those times. Despite this, they were not faithful to the [covenant]. When they were banished from Europe, they found no compassionate bosom, no cave to shelter them, except for the lands of Islam. It was the Ottoman Empire, the Mameluke state, and the Islamic countries that received them with open arms, [and] gave them shelter and protection — but when [the Jews] gained influence, they turned their backs on them, and we have become their victims.”

The charge of ingratitude is familiar and long-established in Islamic tradition. Note his reference to dhimmitude, which would get him a charge of “Islamophobia” from Muslim spokesmen in the West, even though he says nothing about how it relegates Jews (and other dhimmis) to second-class status.

“We Wait for the Revenge of Allah to Descend Upon Them [i.e. the Jews] — And, Allah Willing, It Will Be By Our Own Hands”

“This is one of the peculiarities of our times. The nation upon which abasement and humiliation was inflicted, and which drew the wrath of Allah — the people most covetous of life — we have become their victims. The cowards have grown bold in their attitude towards us, the weak and humiliated have grown strong in their dealings with us. The small birds in our land have turned into eagles, and the sheep have turned into wolves that devour us. What has befallen our nation?!

“But Allah lies in wait for them, and He will not forsake this nation. He will not allow these people to continue to spread corruption in the land. We wait for the revenge of Allah to descend upon them, and, Allah willing, it will be by our own hands: ‘Fight them, Allah will torment them by your hands, and bring them to disgrace, and will assist you against them, and will heal the hearts of the believers, and you will still the anger of your hearts.’ This is my message to the treacherous Jews, who have never adhered to what is right, or been true to their promises, who violate each time the promises them make to you.” […]

Qaradawi there was quoting Qur’an 9:14-15.

“Even though Gaza has no gateway except for Egypt, Israel is surrounded by several Arab states. Lebanon and Syria, Jordon, and Saudi Arabia are all neighbors of Israel, and whoever wanted to set out [on Jihad] from these countries could have done so, if the gateways were opened. But it is as if we have become the protectors of Israel.” […]

“Marks and Spencer… Regularly Dedicates its Saturday Revenue To Israel… Starbucks Is Zionist…. My Brothers, Put the Boycott Against The Nation’s Enemies Into Action”

“Here in Qatar, we have a branch of Marks and Spencer, which regularly dedicates its Saturday revenue to Israel. We have a Starbucks, which serves coffee. They used to hang a sign on the doors of their shops: ‘We benefit our most important partner, which is Israel, we help in the education of students in Israel, we help build up the Israeli defense arsenal,’ and so on. People go and drink their expensive coffee. Instead of paying 2 riyals for a cup of coffee, they pay 20 riyals. This Starbucks is Zionist. Why do we not teach the nation to make do with its own products, when possible, even if they are of lesser quality? This is the only way the nation will rise. My brothers, put the boycott against the nation’s enemies into action. Every riyal you pay turns into a bullet in the heart of your brothers in Gaza and in other Islamic countries.” […]

“Oh Allah, Take This Oppressive, Jewish, Zionist Band Of People; Oh Allah, Do Not Spare A Single One Of Them; Oh Allah, Count Their Numbers, And Kill Them, Down To The Very Last One”

“Oh Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. Oh Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people. Oh Allah, they have spread much tyranny and corruption in the land. Pour Your wrath upon them, oh our God. Lie in wait for them. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people of Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, and You annihilated the people of ‘Aad with a fierce, icy gale. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, You annihilated the people of ‘Aad with a fierce, icy gale, and You destroyed the Pharaoh and his soldiers — oh Allah, take this oppressive, tyrannical band of people. Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one.”

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  1. says

    Another misunderstander, or as I like to say; a DUMB-ASS!

    Why is Islam so very, very difficult to understand, that so very, very many people keep getting it so very, very wrong?

  2. says

    “Oh Allah, Take This Oppressive, Jewish, Zionist Band Of People; Oh Allah, Do Not Spare A Single One Of Them; Oh Allah, Count Their Numbers, And Kill Them, Down To The Very Last One”

    “Oh Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. Oh Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people..

    Oh Allah!
    Oh Allah!
    Oh Allah!
    Oh Allah!

    Once more with feeling…OOOOOHHHH ALLLLAAAAHHH…
    Wait, thats not quite enough…OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAALLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    Now don’t we feel better?

    Call him all you want, he won’t answer…He’s in the basement tending the furnace, there’s no phone there, and the answering machine is broken.

    Al-Qaradawi expects a lot from a god that does not exist…

  3. says

    Dear Mr. John Esposito,
    Have you heard the latest of your friend the fiend Al-Qaradawi who colours are now revealed even among the stupid elites can read his words? What do you find so reforming about this Al-Qaradawi? Mr.J.Esposito please reasess your praise concerning the islamists Al-Qaradawi .

  4. says

    “Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one.”

    Just as a point of contrast — and that is all — note the Fatima Prayer:

    “O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Take all souls to heaven, especially those in need of Your mercy.”

  5. says

    Get this Mr. Al-Qarawawi: al-ilah HAS been listening all along. Your “allah” is laughing devilishly to himself now that you’re knickers are in a bunch. And allah will keep laughing all the way to your death, upon which, you’ll find that mohammed’s paradise is REALLY HELL. Those 72 virgins? They’re ethereous you know, so after THEY please themselves with torturing you sexually, they’ll just feed allah’s flames with you. allah’s handmaidens will have a lot of work to do with so many “martyrs” on the way.

    But you just keep right on calling the moon-god’s name: allah, allah, allah…. because that allah does listen and waits for your visit.

  6. says

    A reformist that says that homosexuality is a disease to be cured by burning or stoning to death those “who suffer from it.”

    I’m sure Dinesh D’Souza would be more than happy to say amen to that, to show his support for such a “moderate reformist.”

  7. says

    Allah is Not the God of the Bible:

    http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html

    Excerpt from above link:

    “Muslims believe that there is no other God besides Allah and that he is the God of the universe. They claim that not only is he their God, but that he is the God of the Jews, the Christians and everyone else. When examining the profile of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and comparing it with Allah’s profile, there are a number of distinct differences between them that can only result in one conclusion: These profiles simply do not match! Allah is NOT the God of the Bible!”

    “The Islamic faith, through the teachings of Muhammad, asserts that Allah is God and attempt to place him within the confines of the Holy Scriptures. When the Bible contradicts their teachings, they allege that it is flawed, has been tampered with, and has many errors. They further claim that the Koran, through the teachings of their prophet Muhammad, corrects them. However, it has already been established that Muhammad was both a false prophet and teacher. Therefore, Islam’s allegations are unsupported, baseless and without merit.”

    “There are a number of major differences between the God of the Bible and Allah. This chapter will focus upon five reasons why they are not the same. According to the Holy Scriptures, the God of the Bible is the one true God while Allah is a false god.”

  8. says

    A reformist that says that homosexuality is a disease to be cured by burning or stoning to death those “who suffer from it.”

    I’m sure Dinesh D’Souza would be more than happy to say amen to that, to show his support for such a “moderate reformist.”

  9. says

    Hey Amir-Good luck with that ignorance problem.

    I DO reject hate. I reject islam. I will NEVER accept your “religion of peace.”

    BTW-do you know how many rockets your hamas lobbed off at Israel last year BEFORE Israel retaliated? If they’ve closed their borders it’s for good reason. Why don’t they lob rockets off at Egypt too, since Egypt’s (such good sunnis) border is closed also and keeps them restricted? And why is it that hamas has plent y of rockets and no bombs? No place or reason to smuggle food in? But plenty of place and reason to smuggle rockets in?

    You’ve already been given the surahs which outline death to infidels and enslavement of dhimmies.

    Do you know the meaning of allah? It’s an ancient perversion of al-ilah, the moon-god. Both words of which were used in tandem at the time of good ole pervey moe. Good luck with that particular god too!

  10. says

    “What makes this a HATE SITE, is the fact that every day, you guys take a few extremists. . . ”

    Mr. Qaradawi is the head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research.

    He has published fifty books, runs an extremely popular website, and is frequently featured on Al-Jazeera.

    People of all faiths and backgrounds put their money where their minds are. Under this criterion, Mr. Qaradawi is far from being an “extremist” Muslim — unless there are a lot more “extremists” among the Ummah than “moderate” Muslims claim.

    When religious preachers in the U.S. go off the rails — Pat Robertson blathering about how Chavez of Venezuela should be assassinated, for example — the groundswell of criticism and repudiation is huge. Masses of people joined together to force the U.S. Catholic Church to compensate victims of priest pedophilia. Christians as well as non-Christians stood against the rash of religiously-inspired doctor murders and women’s clinic bombings in America.

    “Moderate” Muslims remain silent in the faces of hate-preachers like Qaradawi. In fact, now that I think about it, “moderate” Muslims have been out in force all over the world in the last few days, threatening, bullying, and violently attacking others to triumphant cries of “Allahu Akbar.” Synagogues and churches have been both attacked and used as staging areas for violence, and a Muslim mob coldly threatened a beautiful medieval cathedral in Italy by staging a mass “prayer” directly in front of its doors.

    Perhaps you should speak to these moderate Muslims about rejecting hate, and to the Egyptians about closing their border to their Gazan brothers in the Ummah.

  11. says

    amir:

    Your brand of Islam, the “Softer Side of Islam” if you will, for lack of a better term, is considered by other Muslim brothers & sisters to be FALSE, and it is not the brand of Islam that Jihad Watch is headlining, so THEY are the ones that you need to sit down with and persuade towards change.

    Might I suggest inviting them over for some warm, sweet tea, in front of a nice cozy fire to discuss your differences. Oh, and good luck with that, because you will need it.

    You are targetting the wrong enemy, amir, by coming on here and bothering us. Take it up with the, Complaints Against Other Muslims Department. Can’t find it in the Yellow Book, then start your own department. Good-bye.

  12. says

    Amir: No disrespect to Robert Spencer, but some of the readers of this site are a little CONFUSED on Islam.

    Now that’s funny…Who’s confused?

    You must have read enough to know by now, that nearly every poster here knows more about Islam than you do.

    You don’t know the difference between hate and righteous indignation.

    ‘Hate’ means ‘intense dislike’, look it up.

    You better believe that I intensely dislike Islam, and if you want to call that hate, that’s your problem…

  13. says

    i hate the mohamedan ideology just like i hate nazism and communism ; so you can call me a hater as i hate islam for what it is: an intolerant ideology that wants to impose itself in the West and destroy our culture

  14. says

    amir, islam is hate, and so reporting what islam does to non muslims and even to those muslims who are not muslim enough is not hate, but to be educated and in time we will defeat islam. you defeat it first with educating and understanding your enemy, and the choice of distruction will be how you accomodate the rest of the world. ie, if hammas stops sending over rockets and live peacefully among your neighbours, Israel will react the same. when hammas changes their charter and to not want Israel destroyed and their behaviour to actually live peacfully you will see a difference among Israel towards hammas.
    Since islamists cannot live peacfully with non muslims and seeks to destroy us, we will seek your destruction. your choice amir.

  15. says

    Muslims know all the ‘Buzzwords’ to use on us. Not only here on JW, but everywhere on God’s Green Earth. Words like…..

    ~Confused (as used above by amir)

    ~Bigot

    ~Disproportionate

    ~HATE SITE/HATE SPEECH (that’s a big one)

    ~Misunderstander of Islam

    Of course, none of these buzzwords really apply to the subject of Islam’s evil ideology & lies. They are only used for effect and as a distraction from the Truth. Except we are not distracted by them, because we see them for what they are.

    What other buzzwords are out there? I know I’m overlooking a lot more. Anyone….

  16. says

    Thanks, amir, there’s another buzzword. Or more accurately, a Buzz-Phrase:

    “LOVE YOUR ENEMY”…..C/O amir

    Context, amir, you must remember the context of Jesus stating this. Jesus also confronted lies and liars, so what of that one, ew?

    Keep going, amir, because you are helping me compile a better Buzzword & Buzzphrase list. Thank you for your help with this, too.

  17. says

    Defend your moon god all you want, but it doesn’t mean that he’s the ONE TRUE GOD.

    Bet you’re gonna defend your prophet, next? What about Muhammad, amir? I would love to read what lying defense you will present here.

    Muhammad was a liar, a murderer, and a sexual pervert. But you already know this, so why follow Muhammad, and why follow Islam? Now that is hypocritical.

  18. says

    *Sigh*

    When do you think they’ll finally ‘get it’ that Christians are called Christians because they follow Christ and that THEIR bible is the New Testament??? God, they’re dumb (can you do something about that?)

  19. says

    Notice the energy that amir puts into his posts, using caps to shout and how he calls us names like morons, idiots, and, by projection, accuses us of being the hate mongers and racists. Where did he learn all this vitriol? From his holy book. Allah hates kafirs and says they will go to a fiery hell and be tortured for all eternity. That’s the allah mohammed calls the most merciful.

    Here is a quote from Bill Warner at politicalislam.com about why he hates us kafirs so much:

    “To measure the Koranic fixation on kafirs, let us measure the fixation by counting the amount of text devoted to them. In Mecca an astounding 67% of the text is devoted to the kafir. In Medina 51% was about kafirs. The amount of text in the entire Koran devoted to kafirs is 61%.”

  20. says

    Sallam, Amir meshkin,

    Disagree with civility or you lose…don’t drop the “F” bomb…that kind of thing should be beneath you.

    Cool your head and stick around…do your duty and tell the truth…you are not responsible for how they receive it.

    Peace
    Abdullah

  21. says

    funny (NOT) how slogans like death to the jews , put jews in ovens , long live hitler do not bother him , but yet he is offended by us saying islam is a dangerous cult.

  22. says

    AM & Company:

    Your prophet Muhammad is not the only person who has totally tarnished your “religion”, so have your fellow followers of Muhammad.

    Muhammad was a liar, a murderer, a sexual pervert, and this is whom you admire and follow after? This is a man worth defend? Plus, most terrorists are Muslims, so how can you defend that?

    You guys who come on here to defend your prophet and your “religion” are a total laughing stock. How you can defend a prophet who is a known liar, a murderer, and a sexual deviant is simply beyond anything that’s sane; as is defending the evil crimes and actions taken by other Muslims.

    You serve and defend a liar, murderer & pervert. How great for you. But no thank you.

  23. says

    P.S. You guys can act as cool, calm & collected all you want, and even stop dropping F-bombs, but you cannot erase “prophet” Muhammad’s ugly past, nor can you erase what Muslims have done. You are truly wasting your time here. No one wants your Islam. God No!

  24. says

    Posted by: champ at January 12, 2009 5:36 PM
    You and your little reader’s digest opinion

    Mohammad was known for his honesty and even his most vile enemies could not tell lies about it. He was truthful, and everyone who knew him was forced to attest to that when he was alive.

    What do you know about it? Nothing…you obviously missed that part of history.

    You know the old adage…laugh all you want.

    Many Prophets were military commanders, used deceit in war, and killed enemies…the Bible is replete with examples…

    Many Prophets had more than one wife, some Jewish Prophets had nearly a hundred, according to our tradition…around three hundred according to yours…

    So you come across as only loud mouth ignorant person who has no real idea of what they speak.

    Otherwise you might not read as “obnoxious idiot.”

    Truth
    Abdullah Mikail

  25. says

    amir — no one can ignore the white elephant in the room: Muhammad.

    You have chosen to ignore his evil life, but I have not, nor have others who are honest with themselves. You are welcome to get upset with what I’m pointing out, but if pointing out the Truth About Muhammad upsets you, then that is your problem. Not mine.

  26. says

    2. there are three monotheist religions, islam, jusaism, christianity

    Oh no. Christianity is considered shirk.
    Moslems say we are polytheists.
    Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'”
    Qur’an 5:72 “…Lo! Whoever joins other gods with Allah or says He has a partner, Allah has forbidden Paradise, and the Hell Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.”
    Qur’an 5:73 “They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them – the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom.”
    Bukhari:V5B59N727 “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.'”
    Qur’an 9:30 “The Jews call Uzair the son of Allah, and the Christians say that the Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying from their mouths; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s (Himself) fights against them, cursing them, damning and destroying them. How perverse are they!”

  27. says

    amir states:

    “But if Christ was here,he would rather have Israel just give up some of that land. That’s what this is all about. A little bit of land, that the UN wanted to divide, and make a palestinian state anyway in 1948.”

    No, amir, that is not true, nor is that what this conflict is all about.

    First of all, the Palestinians already have a state, it’s called Jordan. And if you check any map, you will see that Jordan is WAY bigger than Israel. At any rate, the Arabs did not want the Jews to have any land back in 1948 and beyond, so they are the land whores, not the Jews. You really need to study factual records more closely.

    Here are two links for your consideration.

    1) Palestine Facts:
    http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_faq_palestine_whynostate.php

    2) Historical Timeline of Israel:
    http://contenderministries.org/middleeast/timeline.php

  28. says

    NO they are NOT the same God.
    The God of the Bible said Jews were the apple of His eye. Why would he turn around and tell Mo to kill all the Jews?
    I have my own idea of just who appeared to mohammad in that cave. Angels of light?

  29. says

    NO they are NOT the same God.
    The God of the Bible said Jews were the apple of His eye. Why would he turn around and tell Mo to kill all the Jews?
    I have my own idea of just who appeared to mohammad in that cave. Angels of light?

    Posted by: interestinconundrum

    You’re right, interest!! allah is NOT the God of the Bible, that’s for sure. And I think I know where you’re headed with the “Angel of Light”, it’s none other than satan himself, right?! Like I have to ask, LOL!

  30. says

    Thank you, Peguy! Exactly the passage we need for such an occasion, as it certainly fits who Muhammad saw that day in his cave. Satan sure picked a winner to carry out his evil agenda.

  31. says

    If you’re not bright enough to correctly intemperate, the koran, don’t bother.

    Here is what the Koran says about kafir.

    Oh, that’s all the quran says about kafir?
    How silly of me to read all those hateful suras about being fuel for hellfire. Oh, and how we Christians are the lowest creatures.

  32. says

    I thought what happened in ’48 was that with the mass immigration of Jews after WWII, the Palestinians started complaining to their Arab neighbors, and when they left to fight alongside the Arabs against Israel, big surprise they weren’t allowed back in.

    And now they’ve bent their entire culture towards revenge for this imaginary wrong, and what’s the result?

    The Palestinians would rather build Kassams to aim (and I use the word ‘aim’ loosely) at Israeli cities than maintain their sanitation systems. If they start drowning in sewage because of that, forgive me if I don’t contact MIT right away and ask to borrow their nanotech violin.

  33. says

    ‘…Other articles have comments where readers call ISLAM a cult. As if a handful of extremists like Osama Bin Laden speak for all 1.2 BILLION muslims.

    That’s why this is a hate site, and always will be.

    No disrespect to Robert Spencer, but some of the readers of this site are a little CONFUSED on Islam.

    They claim to be Christians, but do not live christ like lives. …’ amir

    ‘…”Oh Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. Oh Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people. Oh Allah, they have spread much tyranny and corruption in the land. Pour Your wrath upon them, oh our God. Lie in wait for them. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people of Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, and You annihilated the people of ‘Aad with a fierce, icy gale. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, You annihilated the people of ‘Aad with a fierce, icy gale, and You destroyed the Pharaoh and his soldiers – oh Allah, take this oppressive, tyrannical band of people. Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one.”‘ the reformed one.

    No disrespect.

  34. says

    “ITS THE SAME GOD. So no matter how many of you idiots want to believe that southern baptist hill billy BS about Allah being a moon god, doesn’t make it true. You’re just showing us how incredibly stupid you are. There are three monotheistic religions taht believe in the SAME god.”

    I TOLD you, your ignorance IS showing. I even qualified it for you, but no.. You just keep spouting that allah is the same God as that of Jews and Christians. Etymology-wise, the word al-ilah and allah WERE the same back in the time of mohammed. They were interchangeable before mohammed usurped it. The fact of the matter is that allah does not mean GOD except to muslims now. But the name of the Jewish god and Christian god is YHWH, always has been and always will be. Might you ask what does that mean? Probably not. But I’ll go right ahead and tell you anyway: It means I AM. Which is a far wolf’s-howl from the moon. And this is why true Jews and Christians REJECT islam. The fact of the matter is that mohammed usurped their god, their legends, and traditions and re-wrote them in a hideous gobbledy-gook fashion as the illiterate he was. It doesn’t matter how much musselmen claim to have the same monotheistic god, claims do NOT make reality. We have been warned in our holy books that false prophets were coming, and one of them sure enough did. So why don’t you tell me, why exactly did mohammed have to re-write everything from Judaism and Christianity instead of expand and expound as Jesus and his apostles did?

    You say you are not Christian, or Jewish, or muslim. So what exactly are you? If you have chosen to be a non-believer of anything, that’s fine. (although if you are an apostate from islam, they might have your head) An agnostic? Don’t be one for too long. No one likes someone who can’t make a decision. An atheist? Well then, good for you, you’ve outgrown god.

    I don’t hate. I reject. I reject islam. And if I find the actions of the islamists hateful, why should that make you so angry? Surely, you didn’t come here for fairness. Please go to the Deepak Chopra website for that. This website is about the news the mainstream media isn’t covering. There are NOT only Christians here, there are Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, Atheists and on and on. Heck, we even have a Wiccan on board at times. If it seems a little skewed here to you, then just leave. You have the right to an opinion here, but if ours offend you, then get over it.

    And I’ve read it posted here that the Talmud has verses about Jesus and Christians in boiling oil and tortured, etc etc. But it sounds like some repetitious brain-washing propaganda that muslims have been taught in mosques in the middle east. Most notably, either in those Paki schools or shiite learning centers. So your usage of those “hateful verses” belie where you and your education come from. My parents had the Talmud in their personal library and I DON’T remember ever reading anything like that. Care to substantiate the claim with quotes that are verifiable?

    And finally, you may not think rockets landing on your head on a daily basis is a big thing, but if it happened here in the States, we’d come down on whoever did it in a heartbeat. In a wrathful and righteous fury of a heartbeat. We’ve done it before and we’ll do it again when the time comes. I’ll reiterate, Israel was absolutely RIGHT to close off their borders to Gaza. Israel GAVE Gaza to the philistines, but no, it’s not enough, it’s NEVER enough. If Egypt, such good sunnis, cared to help the philistines then they would. But they don’t. If hamas cared to import anything besides rockets and ammunition, then they might have built up their economy and helped their own people first. But they don’t. It simply isn’t expedient, feeding people and building homes and an economy. What is a necessity to the terrorists is to keep buying military arms and keep lobbing rockets at Israel.

    The philistines and hamas have had enough time. It’s time for Israel to take Gaza back. And rightfully so.

    Go Israel go! Stand tall! YOU are the chosen ones of the one god-YHWH!!

  35. says

    “…and assuming that ALL MUSLIMS want to chop your head off. If they did, you wouldn’t be here right now.”

    Amir-Bwahahahahaha. If they did try, THEY wouldn’t be here now. I’d shoot em with my ole sparkey stick , AFTER my big black dog had a few halal bites.

    If nothing, you’ve been entertaining. Hehehehe.

  36. says

    Amir, like a typical leftist, you misinterpret the Jewish and Christian scriptures and side with the Islamofascists, because their ideology is similar to your own. How typical to mention the Western enslavement of Africans without mentioning the flourishing slave trade that the Arabs had going hundreds of years before Europeans ever set foot on the continent, not to mention the brutality with which the Arabs purveyed it. It is estimated by scholars that an equal number if not more Africans were victims of this vile trade, and slavery still persists in muslim areas of Africa today. You typically project your own hatred onto those who oppose your world view, and ignore the atrocities that are common place in the muslim world, justified by sharia law.

    So typical…….

  37. says

    Oh, and PS: Even Arabs have acknowledged that Deir Yassin was a hoax. They thought that the reports of atrocities would make the Arabs fight, but instead they ran away in fear.

    Was There a Massacre at Deir Yassin?
    The pro-PLO camp says yes; the historical documentation says otherwise
    http://www.hirhome.com/israel/deir-yassin.htm

    I highly recommend hirhome.com for its thought-provoking,well researched and documented articles.

  38. says

    Why do they keep calling on thier nonexistent allah? Don’t they have enough proof that either he does not exist or he has abandoned them because they are low life terrorists.

    Everytime they pray for allah Israel gets stronger and stronger, everytime they say allahu akbar more terrorists are crushed under the feet boots of the mighty Israelis.

    How stupid and blind morons do they have to be to not see the truth. The truth is stamped on the botttom of the IDF forces boots. They can see it everytime they look up and see an Israeli boot crushing their faces.

  39. says

    Learned a new word today that would seem to fit this guy to a tee: TERMAGANT (from “Chanson de Roland” ca 1100 CE); a violent, turbulent, overbearing person in long, flowing Eastern robes.

    This sounds like it could be used in many different ways, such as “Al-Qaradawi, the well known Muslim termagant who frequently appears on Egyptian television…” Of course, this also applies to most of Al-Qaradawi’s cohorts, so one could equally well say “Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Muslim termagant who is the number two figure in al-Qaida…”

    Modern usage of the word has changed from the original, and now usually implies a scolding, nagging, bad-tempered woman. But this would seem to apply equally well to these guys.

  40. says

    Amir:

    Hey I’m brown. I’m a minorty here in the USA. I’m a hindu. And, I’m hate islam. Am I a righ-wing George Bush Christian? If I listen to you I am!

    I hate islam. Now, i’m a hate monger?

  41. says

    One of the interesting and curious things about trolls is the way in which they tend to write and, presumably, think in slogans.

    The standard practice on the site is to present some verifiable facts (or what we imagine to be such) and then some inferences or conclusions from those. That is, when we are not just letting off steam.

    It might be an interesting exercise to take a couple of troll postings and dissect them for slogans, slogan-like wording/phrasing and sloganistic thinking.

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    BTW: Orwell has some nice writing on this and related subjects. One piece can be found here:
    George Orwell: Politics and the English Language
    and here (less prettily laid out, but in a complete collection):
    Politics and the English Language – Essay by George Orwell

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    A particularly amusing thing about our apparently mohammedan trolls is the fact that nearly none of them seem to have a really precise grasp of English (to put it mildly), and even their sloganeering is sort of goofy.

    I can’t help thinking though, that their material probably doesn’t sound much better in their own native languages, whatever those might be.

  42. says

    “You keep assuming I’m a muslim, and that other muslims want to kill me.”

    “You assume that muslims and jews can’t get along, although I have jewish friends, here, in israel, in iran.”

    Posted by: amir meshkin at January 12, 2009 6:05 PM

    Unbelieveable audacity of this Amir fellow. Denies he is a Muslim and then basically admits to being one in the next sentence. Typical Islamic logic.

    Words for the wise. Any Mohammedan who doesn’t have the stones to openly admit he is one is NOT worth debating anything with.

  43. says

    joeblough

    thank you very much for providing those links to the Orwell essays.

    I will keep and reread them and attempt to remember his advice.

    G K Chesterton gave some similar advice, once, in his book ‘Orthodoxy’.

    “Most of the machinery of modern language is labour-saving machinery; and it saves mental labour very much more than it ought.

    “Scientific phrases are used like scientific wheels and piston-rods to make swifter and smoother yet the path of the comfortable.

    “Long words go rattling by us like long railway trains.

    “We know they are carrying thousands who are too tired or too indolent to walk and think for themselves.

    “It is a good exercise to try for once in a way to express any opinion one holds in words of one syllable.

    “If you say “The social utility of the indeterminate sentence is recognized by all criminologists as a part of our sociological evolution towards a more humane and scientific view of punishment,” you can go on talking like that for hours with hardly a movement of the gray matter inside your skull.

    “But if you begin “I wish Jones to go to gaol and Brown to say when Jones shall come out,” you will discover, with a thrill of horror, that you are obliged to think.

    “The long words are not the hard words, it is the short words that are hard”

    “Orthodoxy’, chapter 8, entitled “the Romance of Orthodoxy’.