Support for Hizballah's jihad, even in Oz
So chanted Muslim protesters in Australia. Haven't they gotten the memo, that this is a problem of disputed land ownership, that can be solved with a two-state solution involving territorial concessions by Israel? Why is it that Muslims always seem to be the last people to pick up on points that, if you miss them in the West, can get you charged with "Islamophobia"?
"Australian Muslims condemn Gaza conflict," from AAP, January 2 (thanks to JE):
Australian Muslims have gathered in Sydney to condemn Israeli bombing raids in the Gaza Strip, urging the federal government to take a strong stance against the conflict.Many of the city's major mosques closed their doors for Friday prayers, with worshippers gathering in a Lakemba park in the city's south-west to pray for victims of the Israeli air strikes on the Hamas-controlled territory.
As a poignant reminder of the lives lost, a coffin was brought to the front of the crowd, followed by eight Muslim leaders including Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali....
That is, the infamous "catmeat sheikh."
More than 400 Palestinians have died in six days of air strikes, which Israel began on Saturday in response to rocket fire from Hamas.Israel killed a top Hamas commander on Thursday in the biggest blow yet to the Islamist's leadership as dozens more air strikes on Gaza took the death toll to at least 420.
As the service in Parry Park opened with Arabic hymns, crowd numbers swelled to more than 2,000 men, women and children.
Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammad gave a sermon, urging the Australian government and other western nations to publicly oppose the conflict.
"We request for them to stand against the crimes that are happening and the genocide that is happening in Palestine, and to punish those criminals of war," Dr Mohammad told the crowd through a translator.
Note yet again the overheated and misapplied rhetoric of "genocide."
The fighting in Gaza was not supported by the Muslim world, he said."The true followers of Moses know exactly that what's happening by the government of Israel today is something that is against what the Koran has taught," Dr Mohammad said.
In the Qur'an, the true followers of Moses accept Muhammad as a prophet.
"We as Muslims believe that (Allah) has created people differently in different races, different colours, different beliefs and different tongues."Around the corners of the park, placards protesting against the conflict were propped against the fence.
One read "Tanks, missiles, bombs can never break our Islamic bond", while another said "Palestine is Muslim land, Muslims will never surrender one handspan."
Former Guantanamo Bay inmate Mamdouh Habib was in the crowd, handing out protest leaflets.
At the end of the formal service many speakers, including a small boy, addressed the crowd.
"Please protect the children of Palestine ... please protect the children like me," he said.
Very common emotionalistic and manipulative appeal -- and why is it common? Because it works. No one, in the heat of the moment, stops to think about the Israeli children who have to live under the ever-present prospect of a rocket attack from Gaza.
The only protester i have not seen is "Islamic Rage Boy"
Rage Boy can't be everywhere at one time, Sir Oinks Alot.
Oh, wait; there's always Reuters.
Watch the flags: Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Islam (green with shahada. Once again: Who betrayed the people of Australia and let these Mohammedans in? Remember this sentence: "People all over the world protested against Israel".
And put this sentence straight: "Mohammedans all over the world infiltrated peaceful and stable societies and protested from within against Israel, trying to destroy those peaceful societies that took them in."
I am mad. I wish I would see a Mohammedan (Sunni, please) going out on the street in Saudi Arabia. But Mohammedans can do in infidel lands whatver pleases them. In Mohammedan lands, they have a limited choice: They have to shout "Kill jews", kill sunnis", kill shiites". Depending of country and environment.
Intolerance and hatred has infiltrated every corner of the globe. It's really no wonder then, why Muslims are often painted with 'one brush' is it?
"Who betrayed the people of Australia and let these Mohammedans in?"
Malcolm Fraser, Paul Keating, The Left, Political Correctness and Multiculturalism.
That's who.
Where were these idiots when Israel was being bombed daily? No-where because they tacitly approved of it.
"Tanks, missiles, bombs can never break our Islamic bond"
From the article.
Heh, heh. OK, move just a bit to the left, a little more, that's it. Boom. Now, as you were saying? Hello? Hello?
How did Turks get into Oz?
Turkey supposedly shall join th EU. Why then do we have Turks in Germany claiming political asylum when Turkey meets, as EU-Bigwigs et al. tell us all the time, all EU-criteria? If everything is fine with this newly reborn mohammedanian state, why do Turks in Germany and The Netherlands claim supremacy via the Turkish Ministery of Religious Affairs (DITIB, DIANET)? How come a Mohammedan State (New Turkey)is directly interfering in European affairs?
And AUSTRALIAN AFFAIRS?????
No one, in the heat of the moment, stops to think about the Israeli children who have to live under the ever-present prospect of a rocket attack from Gaza.
I disagree with that. Most people around the world, especially the Arab world, want to see all the Jewish kids wiped out. They had that huge lovefest with that scumbag that murdered that Israeli family and oh, everything was great!
Is that a picture of Hezbollah's Nasrallah on one of the placards? Why is his picture being flashed in a Hamas rally? Oh, I get it, the friend of my enemy, or the enemy of my friend, etc. - whatever. Maybe when Israel finishes with Hamas they can go back into Lebanon and finish the job they botched before.
Seriously, I'm sorry to see Oz beginning to exhibit the onset symptoms of Islamorot that's infecting other Western lands. It's time for the Freedom loving lands in the West to bind together in a pact of mutual self-protection.
How did Turks get into Oz?
Kind of Ironic especially after Gallipoli. Of all peoples of this world, I thought the last people that the Australians would ever consider letting into their country are the Turks.
Anyway, Australia, think yourself lucky, you only have a minority of Turks there. Soon, the EU will allow Turkey to join meaning 20 million Muslims instant, unrestricted access into Europe. And guess where most of them will head to?
"Muslims will never surrender one handspan"
Good, then they can win the Darwin Award and a greatly diminished gene pool, complements of the IDF.
I'd love to protect the children of "Palestine" from the hate-filled death cult that Hamas has cultivated. These poor kids are being brainwashed from a young age to hate Jews and that killing them is a good thing for Allah.
Lakemba is not a pretty place to go and is basically a little Hamastan today. I bet that if you tried organising some counter-protest there in support of Israel, you'd be bashed and lynched within minutes.
"That is, the infamous "catmeat sheikh."
That Mohammedan idiot said "uncovered meat."
What's "catmeat" supposed to mean?
As part of his learned explication of why uncovered women deserve to be raped, Mr. Hilali compared them to uncovered meat left in the backyard, where a cat could eat it. Do we blame the cat, Mr. Hilali asked rhetorically, or the person who left the meat in such a way?
It was a particularly vivid and telling variant of the Muslim whore libel. Thousands of Australian Muslims defended the "catmeat shiekh" even after his oratory, meant only to encourage male Muslims, became common knowledge among the infidels.
Eastview, I don't think Hamas considers Hezbollah their enemies - you may be thinking of Fatah.
Nasrallah has a premium record of genocidal Jew-hatred. That's probably why these people are so fond of him.
Good night and good riddance...
Ah, can't you just feel the islamic love ??
Puke.
From article: Lakemba park in the city's south-west to pray for victims of the Israeli air strikes on the Hamas-controlled territory.
If this were not jihad propaganda designed to further the cause(s) of Allah, it would be apostasy...And otherwise pzz off Allah.
This is the apostasy...'Pray for victims'...
These people love death, and are now in Allah's Paradise...It's hard to get 'victim-hood' out of people who got what they wanted, and went to Allah's heaven...How is it possible to be a victim, and at the same time 'lay' claim to 72 virgins as a reward?
This is apostasy because it mocks Allah's protection of Mohammadans, and his reward and punishment system...There are no victims in Paradise...All the victims are in the basement furnace room, getting furnaced.
The second apostasy: And if they are in Allah's heaven, what are the prayers for?
They are in the arms of Allah. You think Allah can't handle it without your prayers?
Allah is insulted, you're out...
"We as Muslims believe that (Allah) has created people differently in different races, different colours, different beliefs and different tongues."
So Allah deliberately created people with different beliefs so that they could be enslaved or killed by the Moslems, whom he orders in the Koran to kill (or subjugate) the unbelievers. Allah looks like a very nasty piece of work, indeed.
Likewise, he created people with different languages, but then spoke to them in only one.
"We as Muslims believe that (Allah) has created people differently in different races, different colours, different beliefs and different tongues."
From the article.
This gives them a basis for claiming exclusivity and superiority, and an excuse for dhimmitudinizing everyone else. Someone has to do all the work, after all. You think they're going to do it themselves?
At the end of the formal service many speakers, including a small boy, addressed the crowd.
"Please protect the children of Palestine ... please protect the children like me," he said.
....................
This sort of thing is common. Here is the San Francisco Chronicle's coverage of the pro-Jihad protest in that city:
"With [Buthina] Rashid [of Concord] were her 4-year-old niece, Rawan, and her 2-year-old nephew, Nezar, who each astonished the crowd by taking a megaphone and leading the crowd in a chant: "Free, free Palestine!"
....................
Why would anyone be "astonished" by this? Pre-school children will say almost anything adults tell them to. The implication here is that the action of these toddlers was somehow spontaneous. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Thanks, Marwan'sDaughter. Good God.
I love cats, and have a few, so I wanted an explanation.
The sheer evil of that "human" cannot be adequately described. Australia - what the hell are you doing? DEPORT THE ISLAMO-NAZIS!
I'm so upset and enraged today by the Islamo-Nazis I don't know what to do. Tears are on the verge.
And Australians are called "racist" because of the so-called Cronulla riots.
It's not racism - it's just being sick and tired of these people that hate our guts and want to wipe us out.
It's hard, because no one in Australia wants to talk about Islam and its real threat. Most don't even want to look at the problem, because we're safe here, aren't we? Australians are a fair lot, and we think that, because we have treated these refugees fairly, that it should be reciprocated. It will never happen.
As hard as it is, the only way for ordinary Australians to get others to see the problem and address it is to keep patiently talking about it to people who don't want to listen. Tell your friends and work mates about the problems in Australia and the world. You will find a lot more people are starting to be concerned about these loonies than it initially appears.
Craissez l'infame!
Errata Sheet to the posting above (but meant purely in a spirit of helpful and not venomous correction)
For "Craissez l'infame"
Read "Écrasez l'infâme
IN A thread about the Muslim riots in London outside the Israeli embassy, a poster named ovinesongs, who has a friend who works inside the embassy, noted that his friend had informed him that the embassy staff have been overwhelmed by a flood of letters, emails, etc, from people within Britain, expressing support for what Israel is doing to Jihad Fortress Gaza.
I have just written my letter of support which will be posted to the Israeli Embassy in Australia, today, and should arrive tomorrow or the next day.
I advise all Aussie jihadwatchers here to do likewise. Then fire off a similar letter to your parliamentary representative.
Chief point to make in such letters: Israel is acting in self-defence against people (the Hamas Jihad outfit) who openly declare a genocidal Jew-hatred which extends beyond Israel to all Jews everywhere,
and who also, in their Charter, openly declare that Muslims should make war in order to reconquer ALL lands that were once invaded and conquered by Muslims (to wit, India, Spain, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, southern Hungary, southern Romania, Malta, East Timor, etc.)
and who indeed envisage nothing less than world conquest in Allah's name and the forcible imposition of sharia - complete with crucifixions, beheadings, stonings, floggings, polygyny, and the suppression of art, wine, music, sculpture and freedom of conscience - upon all of humanity.
Point out that even the tiniest Gazan Muslim toddlers are being imbued with the desire to mass murder and/ or subjugate and ruthlessly exploit Jews and of all non-Muslims. There are very few true 'innocents' in Gaza.
Hamas does not and will not accept a 'two-state' solution. Explain the meaning of the Treaty of Hudaybiyya and show how it explains everything that has happened so far between the Jews in Israel, and the Arab Muslims, and why the 'two-state' solution is a dangerous mirage.
Further point: Hamas' military personnel and materiel are deliberately embedded among civilians, whilst Hamas - just like the jihadists who attacked in Mumbai, or those who attacked the school in Beslan - actively targets non-Muslim civilians for attack.
My observation upon these demonstrations? - Information-Rich Environment.
what do I mean by that?
Simple.
Memo to ASIO.
Observe, and film, every one of these demonstrations. Include close-ups of all the main speakers and instigators, especially anyone heard shouting slogans such as 'Kill the Jews'. or 'Death to Israel'. Identify who is associated with which mosques.
Conduct lightning raids, without warning, on all those mosques and associated premises ('Islamic cultural centres', Islamic schools, imams' and sheikhs' residences) and search them from attic to basement, with sniffer dogs. Turn the forensic accountants loose on their financial records.
If anything, anything at all suspicious is found, anything illegal, anything of the nature of beheading videos or inflammatory jihad-inciting sermon tapes or videos, illegal weapons or munitions, drugs, false documents, fraud (e.g welfare fraud) etc and so forth...
prosecution
conviction
revocations of citizenship from any parties who have citizenship but clearly despise it
bulk deportation of all guilty parties
shutdown of mosque/s.
It should be noted that there *was* a counter-protest.
See the ABC version.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/04/2458778.htm?section=justin
Sydney, Melb protesters march against Gaza attacks
Posted Sun Jan 4, 2009 7:05pm AEDT Updated Sun Jan 4, 2009 8:25pm AEDT
'Thousands of people have turned out in Australian capital cities for protests against the violence in Gaza.
'Parts of Sydney's city centre were blocked off as protesters burned Israeli flags and carried coffins during a march to the Sydney Town Hall.
'Fouad Shriedy, a prominent member of the Australian Palestinian community described the Israeli bombing campaign as a Holocaust.
"The whole world is really watching and nothing is being done about saving the lives of the civilian people in Gaza," he said.
He called on the Australian Government to take a stronger stand on the issue.
'Five-year-old Sayel said he had a special reason for being there.
"Because I want to save my grandmum and my granddad in Gaza. I think they're gonna die," he said.
'Speakers have condemned what they describe as the Australian Government's silence on the issue and have criticised the Egyptian Government for not opening its border to allow people and aid through.
'In Melbourne, pro-Palestinian protesters gathered in Federation Square where they also burned Israeli flags and called for an end to the Israeli bombing campaign.
'Moumar Meshni from the group Melbourne for Palestine called on the 6,000-strong crowd to be vocal in their protests.
"The way in which we can do something about it is, if we use our collective voices and let the public in Australia and the Government of Australia know that we are not happy with what is going on," he said.
'*Pro-Israeli protesters gathered outside the State Parliament building in Melbourne, demanding Hamas stop rocket attacks against Israel.* {NOTA BENE - dda}
'Mike Ginzburg from the Union of Jewish Students called for more international pressure against Hamas.
"We're here today to show solidarity with the state of Israel, but we are also here to show our solidarity with the people of Gaza because in this conflict there is only one enemy and that is Hamas," he said.
'Thousands of people have also rallied in Indonesia to condemn Israel's military strikes on Gaza.
'About 3,000 members of the Islamist Hizbut Tahrir movement took to the streets in the capital, Jakarta.
'Thousands more marched in other centres including the second-largest city Surabaya, where more than 100 police stood guard outside the United States consulate.
'Thousands of demonstrators earlier marched in cities across Europe to demand a halt to the Israeli bombing.
Protests were held in Britain, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Turkey as the Israeli offensive entered its second week, and before Israel confirmed ground forces had entered Gaza." END STORY.
So: in Melbourne there *were* some people, including the Union of Jewish Students, who got out on the street ot make the case for Israel, against Hamas.
I'll just focus on that part.
'*Pro-Israeli protesters gathered outside the State Parliament building in Melbourne, demanding Hamas stop rocket attacks against Israel.*
'Mike Ginzburg from the Union of Jewish Students called for more international pressure against Hamas.
"We're here today to show solidarity with the state of Israel, but we are also here to show our solidarity with the people of Gaza because in this conflict there is only one enemy and that is Hamas," he said." END EXCERPT.
We Aussie jihadwatchers have to get our act together and start making a LOT more noise.
Canberrans: are there enough of you to put together a candlelit March Against Jihad/ March for Human Freedom From Sharia, wending its way along the streets of the embassy district, stopping outside the embassies of each majority-kafir country that has been assailed by Jihad either from within or from without in recent years, and delivering a message of condolence, solidarity, information and encouragement to each?
Think about it: a march that would take in, for example, India (Mumbai and so many other atrocities), Russia (Beslan), Philippines, East Timor, Thailand, Ethiopia, the UK, USA, Spain, and finish up at the Israeli Embassy...with three loud cheers and a toast to the gallant airmen and brave footsoldiers of the IAF!
Hugh
Thanks for the correction. My French is ordinary, but my intentions are pure.
Errata Sheet to the posting above (but meant purely in a spirit of helpful and not venomous correction)
For "Craissez l'infame"
Read "Écrasez l'infâme
Posted by: Hugh at January 4, 2009 7:38 PM
Actually, I was wondering what the first one meant!
Meuilleurs Voeux.
LOLz, Vee. I needed that after seeing that picture from Beirut. I mean Australia.
Jason, you might like islammonitor.org. It's an Australian site. They mostly post original articles, many of them excellent. Mumin Salih, Abul Kasem, and Colonel Neville are great Aussies who do a lot for the anti-jihad movement. We also have many Aussies in here: Sheik yer Mami, who has a great blog, Dumbledoresarmy, whose posts rival Hugh's in their excellence, PG, who provides many interesting insights from her time in Sudan...I'm sure I'm forgetting someobody. My point is that you're not alone.
I am another Aussie and I have been reading this site for quite some time.
Hi all,
I remember after the Mumbai attacks some of my Muslim 'friends' were salivating over the killing of the Holzberg family. The kept saying that the attackers were 'brave' people and so on. But yet they condemmed the attacks to my face. Is it contradictory? NO, because Islam permits filthy Muslims to lie to Kaffirs like me. And saying they are brave while condemming the attacks to my face is simply another way of saying, that they deserved those attacks and if you want me to condemm them I will, but I surely dont mean it.
Islam is a terrorist religion and the Australian government has done a huge mistake by allowing them rights in their country. Did these 'Muslims' protest the Bali bombing? Done by their brethren in Indonsia. Did the protest Mumbai 26/11? Did they protest September 11th? Did they protest Hamas firing rockets into Israel? Back of Muslims, if you have a problem with Israel go and fight them like men if you can. Stop your useless protesting, you are simply making people like me even more angry with idiots like you.
Tzipni Livni, Israel Foreign Minister, had the best thing to say regarding proportionality in this conflict. She said that Hamas fired rockets onto a school in Israel, the proportional thing to do would be to target a school in Gazs, but Israel would not do it because Israel is not barbaric. So true, but Israel should now think of liberating the Gaza and West Bank areas now for good. It is clear that they will never have peace with the Muslims as the Muslims want war to survive. So Israel should 'take-back' what was rightfully theirs, including Gaza and West Bank. Send those idiot Gaza residents to Saudi Arabia where they can live in peace pulling beards and stoning women.
Whenever one raises the question of Hizbullah re: the Pali problem, Pali spokesmen are quick to point out that Hizbullah is Lebanese. However, that hasn't stopped people here from holding Nasrallah's placards.
I have been lurking here for a while now and have learnt a lot from Robert and Hugh, while enjoying the comments by DDA and PG and Sheik yer Mami ( whose site is a blast!!). I also have had enough of these islamic dropkicks coming to Australia and demanding that we change to suit them instead of them becoming a part of the community. They seem to want everything we have worked for given to them and then have the gall to want more. And with the greens leader Bob " bash anyone who doesn't agree with me" Browne condemning Israel the Politicians are playing into the jihadists hands.
Enough is enough. Either become part or our community or leave.
Israel is a sovereign nation who has a duty to defend itself and its people, without any outsiders saying what the IDF and their leaders can and can't do.
Go Israel, Defend that what is yours by whatever means you deem appropriate, THIS Aussie will support you!
"Palestine is Muslim land, Muslims will never surrender one handspan"
Funny thing is, you get your ass handed to you every time you have a war. The only way you hold on to one inch of the middle east is because of the stupid lefties of the western world.
IP, Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy, but you're right that they're centered in Lebanon.
Tempest
I sent off a letter to the Israeli Ambassador in Australia expressing support.
All Aussie jihadwatchers here should do likewise. Think about the effect on morale if the Embassy staff are inundated with friendly mail from Gentiles all over Australia, telling them 'good on ya mate, keep hitting Hamas till they're well and truly beaten, blow up every mosque (tr: ammo dump) in Gaza if that's what it takes'. Suppose they get a thousand, ten thousand letters saying that. Then the Ambassador can tell our Aussie government: hey, X number of your citizens support what we're doing. And the government thinks: hmmm, that = X (x 1000) votes.
At the same time, the politicians themselves ought to be getting letters, too, telling them to back Israel, and explaining (with documentary evidence) what a lot of vile genocidal Jew-haters the Hamas organisation contains, that Hamas' idea of 'resistance' involves kllling all the Jews or subjugating them to dhimmitude (explain dhimmitude as a nasty religion-based apartheid with Muslims as Uebermenschen and dhimmis as Untermenschen with no rights).
I sent an email of support and encouragement to MP Michael Danby - he was at the PRO-Israel rally in Melbourne. He's in the Labor party, so he's in a position to put in a word of advice to the PM.
Liberal Senator for Victoria, Mitch Fifield was at the same rally right alongside MP Danby. Aussie jihadwatchers: send *him* an email and letter of support, too. Make sure you give him some nice tidbits of info., such as one of the more hysterically ugly passages from the Hamas Covenant.
Thanks DDA! I will sending off letters to the Israeli Ambassador and to my local member of parliament, both state and federal as soon as I can.