The sick savages and their religion of violence Islam. What a bunch of pathetic losers. Thugs and criminals are the followers of Mohammad. Yes truly they emulate their Murdering Prophet Mohammad.
Aftenposten is reporting that several MacDonalds were vandalised after a text message orginating in Sweden was circulated saying that Saturday's takings in the hamburger chain in Oslo were to go to Israel...
But here's another example of why Muslim-majority nations, on average, are so backward in every socioeconomic measure, except for violence, fanaticism and totalitarianism. In the admirable name of diversity -- and contrary to some who view this website, I think it is admirable sometimes -- in that name, we are importing to the West a people whose religion demands the establishment of a theocratic monoculture and the destruction of diversity. Even with only a minority of Muslims in the West, that monoculture already has the tip of a claw managing to silence and intimidate, through threats of lawsuits and threats of violence, parts of the media and press that might otherwise openly criticize Islamic law and jihad.
Israel, according to a recent headline, has warned Hamas and Palestinians to prepare for an escalation of the war. What is Israel supposed to do when Hamas insists on continuing to fire rockets from Gaza into Israel? What is Israel supposed to do when it offered 98% of what Arafat asked for, and Arafat in response made no counteroffer, but started another intifada? The problem in the Middle East is not Israel. The problem is a culture on the other side that brooks no compromise, that is insane just as the Nazis and Communists were, and that has clearly and repeatedly said and exemplified in action the statement that it seeks to destroy Israel utterly.
I think one of side benefits of Israel's war in Gaza is that violent protests by Muslims in major cities will wake up stupid liberal multiculturalists and maybe even sell-out politicians to the disadvantages and outright civil evils of Muslim immigration. Muslim immigration to the West has got to stop and even reverse.
Very conservative and even right wing parties will hopefully be seen more as a necessary defensive choice.
That video was horrifying. Worse yet, teargas seemed to be the cops' only real weapon. Teargas only causes this sort of violence to disperse radially, get on public transportation, and take it elsewhere. Is that the best Europe's got? They need to take some tips from some LAPD officers about riot control. I saw not one arrest being made. They should have enclosed the area and arrsted everyone. Everyone.
First, laws against covering one's face must be implemented. Second, people who do this stuff need to be arrested. Third, immigrants with anything on their records more serious than a speeding ticket need to be deported - quickly - along with their entire families. Mass punishment as an excuse for non-violent ethnic cleansing (yeah, I said it, meaning "send them home," not kill them) is what is necessary at this point. Stop Muslim immigration now.
People are quick to say that the French deserve what they get. I would argue that the Norwegians actually are, given their historical and present institutionalized anti-Semitism, but they don't deserve this. I do hope that they learn a lesson from it, though. This Jew-hating culture. That's what it looks like, Norway. Revel in it or do something about it.
What a surreal video. The perfect streets of Oslo, quiet and orderly, and the destructive Muslims, yelling and burning. It speaks volumes. They obviously don't belong there as they don't belong in any western country. Their cultural programming tells them they are superior in that they love death as others love life. They do not create. They tear down, burn, and destroy. A few of them wake up to the insanity of this and become objects of the majority's fury. Muslim fanatics need to be quarantined and deported.
"Third, immigrants with anything on their records more serious than a speeding ticket need to be deported - quickly - along with their entire families."
Very funny.
Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong. If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race.
That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral.
Insightful footage. No English translation or subtitles needed. The video is self explanatory to the informed eye.
Speaking as an ex-muslim myself, I know for certain how dangerous Islams texts and the influence of its traditions can be in the hands of Muslim males.
Essentially Islams texts urge Muslims to be obsessed with Islam; and these fraudulent texts have ample statements approveing of violence to further Islams goals. In the hands of frustrated disaffected young men, Islam is a recipe for trouble - Trouble for themselves, and others.
"That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral."
@Mohammad: I believe the declaration of human rights affirms freedom of religion for all... seems to be at odds with Islam. Consider, Saudi Arabia... where no other religion is aloud to be publically practiced.
"That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral."
-Mohammed (on jihad watch)
I, for one, found this to be laughably priceless. Since when do ANY muslims care about human rights. Lemme make a list real quick. I call it THE MERITS OF MUSLIMS
-They carve up vaginas
-They throw rocks at non-believes to the point of fatality
-They have contributed NOTHING to the world save the suicide vest and the school bus bomb
-They are anachronisms left over from the 7th century
-They are greed, selfish, vile, narrow-minded, pithy, and callous
AND WORST OF ALL: Most of them reek of unwiped a**.
From pster with unique name above: I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral.
I personally don't care one twit about UN resolutions or edicts...But I might agree that shipping off whole families might not be do-able or allowable under 'existing' law...
However that does not relieve any family members
who aid and abet another family members jihadist activities, of some responsibility.
There is such a thing as accessory to a crime, which includes rioting.
Under the Death Penalty Domestic Terrorism act of 1991, revised, written by Strom Thurman and ...JOE BIDEN...a Domestic terrorist is defined as one, or many, who attempts to intimidate the public or the government. This would include throwing a punch at a strike. In some cases the death penalty is called for under this act.
Other things called for is the confiscation of property of anyone connected...If you used your home as a pre-riot meeting place, used your car or bus to transport rioters, your property will be confiscated, all of it.
I suggest this law be invoked if Mohammadans create violence at any demonstrations in the US.
I am just so sick of these pro-Palestinian Islamic thugs and their stupid multicultural left-wing supporters. What I find pathetic is that when a Jewish rabbi and his wife were tortured and murdered in cold blood by Muslim terrorists in Mumbai last November, there was hardly an outcry. Every day, there are thousands and thousands of black Sudanese in Darfur that are being persecuted and murdered by their Arab "masters" yet I don't see the U.N. (a useless and worthless organization) or Muslim nations condemning it. But when a little country called Israel retaliates against Hamas in self-defense, then the whole world condemns Israel and the hordes of pro-Palestinian thugs assault, abuse and threaten the much smaller group of pro-Israel protesters!
We must end Muslim immigration to western countries now before these blood-sucking leeches and stinking parasites take over us!
"If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race"
From poster above
Who said anything about race or color? Where did he say white bad guys are OK?
Don't try and turn this into a race issue when we know it isn't.
I agree with the gray-haired man who pushed down the pro-Hamas sign and said "Gaa til Helveta!", Norwegian for Go to Hell! He has guts and looked outnumbered by the screaming "youths".
'This Jew-hating culture. That's what it looks like, Norway. Revel in it or do something about it.'
A PRO-Israel rally was held in Oslo on Thursday by the leading opposition party. This was disturbed by pro-Palestinian counter-demonstrators and was one of the reasons the police were on edge today in case this pro-Palestinan demonstration got out of hand.
Nothing like this has been seen in Norway in over 20 years. There is a strong anti-jihadist, anti-immigration movement in Norway known as the Framskritt (Progress) Party. In the wake of the Danish cartoons many Norwegians became much more wary and hostile towards Muslims.
it makes you think that all these countries deserve to go under. Firstly Russia and China - countries whose Governments have been responsible for the deaths of over 120 million of their own populations within living memory, Poland, which was conquered a mere 70 years ago, Spain - former al Andalus, New Zealand, South Africa of the burning tyre necklace infamy, and look at the UK's Daily Telegraph and Guardian. However Brazil looks like the worst culprit - but then again South America was home for escaped Nazis after World War II.
"Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong. If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race."
Oh my, YOU are assuming a lot. Who said anything about race in Jdamn's post? Trying for the race card are we so as to obfuscate? Or are you a bit of a supremacist racist also? Are you of the thinking that your color(whatever that may be) is the ONLY muslim color?
Well then, I'll make a small assumption myself on jdamn's behalf. Jdamn was probably talking about those immigrants who don't have citizenship where they currently reside. And get this-JDAMN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!
UNGRATEFUL RESIDENT-PEOPLE WHO DON'T RESPECT THE FOSTERING COUNTRY WHERE THEY LIVE AND THAT COUNTRY'S PARTICULAR LAWS AND CUSTOMS SHOULD GET THE HELL OUT!!!!
Period. (sorry for the caps guys but I am angry with this twit!)
Mohammad, my questions from last week? I will be happy to re-post them below. Oh, that's right. You're a spineless, nancy bitch and I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are.
Thanks for again demonstrating your narcissistic mental illness, Mohammad. If people can't accept the law of the land and abide by societal norms, then yes, deportation. They would be executed in the most horrible way in any Islamic hellhole. I'm suggesting a viable, humane approach, you know, the kind so unlike any aspect of the Shaira law you defended. If they were natives why were they yelling in Arabic? Oh yeah, because they're not native, just like you're not a Brit, since you support Sharia and de facto defended polygamy, sedition, female genital mutilation, and you pimp your daughter into incestuous Sharia sex slavery at 5 to an 80-year-old cousin for a pack of gum.
Oh, FYI, I'm 100% for execution of seditious citizens. 100%, black, white, brown, yellow, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever. Kill them all, just like the Rosenbergs. You should understand this, since you defended Sharia and it mandates execution for merely changing one's mind or engaging in consentual relationships instead of incestuous, pedophilic sex slavery, let alone for betraying one's country. And yes, being a human being with a brain, I believe wholeheartedly in guilt by association. Deport seditious families too, as they are complicit in the non-prevention of crimes, you know, like anyone who sits in a mosque and listens to hate speech or incitement to violence, or passes by it in the mosque bookstore and does not do everything in their power to have it shut down, have its assets seized, and have everyone affiliated with it prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, people like yourself.
"However Brazil looks like the worst culprit - but then again South America was home for escaped Nazis after World War II."
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 @ 4:40 PM
"I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights...."
Posted by: Mohammad
That's hilarious, coming from one who signs oneself "Mohammad". Is there a single Moslem country that has signed it?
Posted by: ebonystone at January 10, 2009 3:39 PM
That was my thought, too.
Interesting that the declaration of rights is used against us when the last people on earth concerned with anyone's "human rights" would be named "Mohammed".
Not even half clever..a mo' poster who thinks he can equate the struggle against islamists with some sort of racism. Look..clown, it is a fact that immigrants from India ( just one example and there are many more)who are not muslim..say Hindis just for openers, are more well behaved than most native born Americans. They are rarely, if ever, accused of crimes here. Contrast this with the record of muslims ( from the same country..same race), who cannot behave themselves under any system including their own countries, as pathetic as they are. Muslims not only break tax laws by evading taxes, they are generally a drain on the welfare system which depends on the taxpayer. Mo', this site has nothing to do with race but everything to do with a struggle against the most vile belief system ever...in the history of man.
"These people came to the protest with knives, bats and Molotov cocktails!"
Why is anyone surprised by this? As the rioters in the American cities in the 60's found, the more damage one causes and the more heads one splits, the more funds and programs and "jobs" flow from the gummint. Violence gets results. A few quiet marchers with signs, maybe singing "Puff the Magic Dragon", doesn't. Anyone wanna bet that the Norwegian response isn't more concessions and more hand-outs and more "outreach" programs? I hope I'm wrong.
My only surprise is how little damage there seems to be. All those stores with their plate-glass front windows still intact!
"Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong"
Mohammad,
Are you joking? In Islamic countries they don't deport people, they mutilate, decapitate, stone and tortue people for violations of Islamic law.
The declaration of human rights is an abomonation in Islam.
"Mohammad, my questions from last week? I will be happy to re-post them below."
Which questions? Please re-post.
"Oh, that's right. You're a spineless, nancy bitch and I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are."
Thank you for swearing at me. I don't know what I have done to offend you but since I am a Muslim and have no rights, please continue hurling abuse at me.
"I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are."
*chortle* Are you confusing me with someone else?
Please show me how I am a terror financing criminal. Please show me, WHEN you show proof you can pass it on to the authorities, if you can show, prove I am a criminal I will eat my mousemat and walk backwards for the rest of the week, actually that would not be possible as I would be under arrest.
I take it that if I am not arrested tomorrow or this week that you are nothing but a liar.
Mo how about answering this post I put to you earlier from the 'UK Muslim leaders to Gordon Brown: Hold Israel accountable -- or else' post. The thrust of the post was why should people trust Muhammadans when their loyaties are to the the Koran and Muhammad.
Here is the full post:
The rest of your 'point' is meaningless.
Posted by Mohammed
No it isn't Mo, Richards point is entirely valid.
We had this discussion on another thread (january 5th) where you stated categorically that your allegiance lies to the Koran and Islam and not man made governments. I quote.
I see no contradiction in being a good citizen of the UK and being a good practising Muslim. To me, Islam comes first, I put God before anything, myself, my parents, everything, my faith and conscience help me determine what is right and what is wrong.
Posted by: Mohammad [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2009 3:02 PM
I responded thus :
You might not see a contradiction, but I certainly do. As a Muslim you profess to believe the Koran is the highest authority on human affairs. Many of the laws laid down in the Koran and Hadith are antithetical to laws that we have established in the UK.
The question asked by Eastview in that thread and implied by RtL in this one is:
Are you willing to swear an oath of allegiance to the nation state where you reside, even if it conflicts with your religious beliefs? Here, of course, I'm referring to the concept of separation of the domains of religious and state power.
What you are saying is that your religious beliefs come first and therefore you will side with the Muslims and the Koran when push comes to shove.
When RtL says,
It's really that simple. You miss one thin Mohammad, if these people stay in the UK and grow then we are looking at future bloodshed on a larger scale. Then again I actually think you do, because at the moment you're playing the 'good' Muslim until Islam grows when you become the supporter of violent Jihad against the Infidel."
He has a perfectly legitimate point.
Tell us exactly why the people of the UK knowing this should openly accept you into their culture, when at any point you could turn in to a violent Jihadist who is driven by your supreme devotion to Muhammadanism.
Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2009 1:22 PM
Especially as your co-religionists are trashing major cities across Europe, why should we think any differently of you.
Well, at least the Infidel World, is getting a RUDE awakenining as to what is amonst us civilized people.
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km: that raw footage of the 'protests' in London was distressing to watch. It's tragic to see the British police running away from these primitives screaming 'allah hu akbar ' at them over and over again. My God ,we're living in dark times. We are seeing history traject right in front of us.. Other civilisations took centuries to go down. We're watching this one collapse in a few years.
1) Since jihad is incumbent upon all Muslims, what is "your jihad?"
2) Do you believe in Muslim supremacy? Do you agree with Islam's teachings, which constitute the vast majority of your texts, that non-Muslims are vile, evil, inferior, apes and pigs, and exist for the sole purpose of being plundered, enslaved, extorted, raped, tortured, and murdered? Answer both parts.
3) Do you believe in the complete equality of all people, male and female, Muslim and non-Muslim, in all spheres of life?
4) Do you believe in killing apostates? If your friend had apostacized would you try to talk him out of it or would you be a decent human being, congratulate him for his capacity for independent thought and action, and respect his decision, not just outwardly? Again, two parts to answer.
5) Where does your zakat money go? Can you vouch for the fact that not a single penny of it ever went to an Islamic "charity" as it is supposed to? If not, you are a terrorist and should be deported. Again, answer both parts.
6) Do you pray out loud? This is important because doing so, thereby pledging allegiance to the Ummah and not to your country of residence, constitutes treasonous sedition. If you pray out loud your are not innocent. I don't believe in prosecuting thought crimes, so merely thinking them is okay.
7) Do you support any aspect of Sharia? If so, you are guilty of treasonous sedition and an indefensibly sick human being.
8) Do you agree that free-world, man-made laws are unarguably far superior to Sharia and agree to submit to every single one of them to the letter, including not uttering Islamic prayers aloud?
9) Do you admit that 99% of the mosques in America, Canada, Europe, and North Africa are Ikhwan-run sleeper cells and should be bulldozed, should have their assets seized, and that any Muslim who so much as sneezes at that is guilty of treasonous sedition and should be deported?
10) Do you admit that Islam encourages nothing but intolerable behavior? If not, explain, with reference to unabrogated Koranic verses, which good behaviors it encourages. Those which don't apply equally to all people (all of them) don't count, and we know that zakat = terror financing, so don't try that either.
11) Do you admit that Perv Mo was an indefensible monster, a child molester, a rapist, a mass murderer, a thief, an extortionist, a necrophiliac, a narcissist, and a complusive liar? If not, you're a sick person. If so, why are you a Muslim?
11) Do you admit that morality is universal, objective, applies to all people equally, and essentially consists of the Golden Rule? If not, go back to kindergarten.
12) Do you admit that Islam has not a single moral teaching, only evil and lessons in hypocrisy and narcissism? If not, explain, with citation to reputable scholarship, because all Islamic dogma and jurisprudence unequivocally support this view.
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Set 2:
You say that Islam forbids killing people who aren't attacking you. You must concede that Islam spread by the sword. Not even willful ignorance could account for one believing otherwise. Islam spread by killing people.
13) How did Islam get to India?
14) Why were 80 million people killed in jihad just in India if Islam forbids killing people and the Muslims were there for the express purpose of stealing the land and instituting Sharia, since Muslims can only live among kafirs for the express purpose of doing this?
15) The Jews of the Khaybar Oasis and the Banu Qurayza? They were both attacked while unarmed in unprovoked night raids. If Islam forbids killing people who aren't actively physically attacking you, why were they slaughtered?
16) If Islam forbids killing non-combatants, and no Jews in Arabia ever attacked Muslims offensively (which they unarguably did not), why did Mohammad kill or order the murder of every Jew in Arabia?
17) Is it because you believe that no non-Muslim is innocent and that we exist for the sole purpose of being killed, tortured, plundered, raped, enslaved, and extorted and you're lying? Or do you admit that the Koran and Hadith obligate you to do all of the above to every non-Muslim you encounter? Which is it? Do we exist for the sole purpose of being killed, tortured, plundered, raped, enslaved, and extorted - and you're a liar - or do your texts say that (still making you a liar) and Islam is sheer evil?
Which kind of liar are you? Answer both parts.
18) All the calls for genocide upon people you don't even know who never attacked you in Sura 9 alone? Care to explain those in light of your insane and absurd lie above [that Islam only calls for the mass-murder of people who are actively physically attacking you]?
19)You also de facto defended polygamy. Most Muslims don't have multiple sex slaves ("wives" in Muslimese) because sex slaves are bought and Islam induces poverty through no education, bad education, wrong education, and a prohibition against ever engaging in hard work with the exception of murder, torture, rape, plunder, and extortion. They have one sex slave because they can only afford one. Do you admit that anyone who would ever consider or defend polygamy is a disgusting, vile, subhuman barbarian by definition and without exception?
20) Are you a disgusting, vile, subhuman barbarian or do you condemn polygamy under all circumstances along with every single aspect of Sharia, all of which are in direct conflict with civilization and actual morality, and could only hypothetically appeal to the most inbred of child-molesting Nazi terrorists?
And the one from the Gordon Brown thread today:
21) Who do people like you think you're kidding? Even the leftist idiots who side with you know what you're about. They pander to you because it serves their agenda in the short-run.
And 2 new ones:
22) Why is it that every single Muslim I have ever seen, met, heard of, or read about invariably operates on the assumption that we have absolutely no clue whatsoever about Islam?
23) Why is it that every single Muslim I have ever seen, met, heard of, or read about invariably operates on the assumption that we will simply accept you even though you commit treasonous sedition, finance terrorism, by definition detest women, and pray for our death and destruction five times a day?
I'm waiting, nancy. Oh, and just in case you were considering slithering away, bear in mind that doing so means having gotten your ass handed to you by a 105 lb., blonde, female Jew who has Piglet decals on everything she can stitch them onto.
Tell us exactly why the people of the UK knowing this should openly accept you into their culture, when at any point you could turn in to a violent Jihadist who is driven by your supreme devotion to Muhammadanism.
KM, Brits are having enough. I am having enough. The British people will NOT stand for thugs chanting ALLAHU AKBAR while they burn, pillage and destroy.
Your video, more than the one posted here, enraged me. I think it should be shown in the same article.
The only problem is that the mainstream media are not showing the more graphic videos, but I don't know anyone that wouldn't be ready to spit blood after seeing something like that.
The Brits will not allow these people to turn the country into a microcosm of the worst theocratic tyranny. They didn't beat Hitler to turn their country over to savages.
The NYTimes has reported that the Bush administration refused Israel's request for bunker busters and fly-over permission to transit Iraq to bomb Iranian nukes. Guess it might interupt the democracy project in Iraq.
Talk about losing sight of what the War on Terror was supposed to accomplish: Defense.
The government of Norway should get to the root cause why the protesters are behaving that way. It is naive to assume that they are by nature destructive. Their actions spell years and years of pent up anger.
Please consider their viewpoints as well. In your call to deport or clean Europe of Muslims, do let cooler heads prevail.
Paris,London, Antwerp the situation is the same everywhere in Europe. Large, uneducationed and radicialized immigrant communities threaten to overwhelm the the aging, scared native populations.
I see no no government in Europe anywhere willing to deal with this problem until it is too late. What the European future is urban warfare and genocide.
One day Israel may have to use military to confront hostile leftist-islamic governments in Europe aka Sweden, Spain
Right now Western elites are very much acting as Western elites did in the 1930s. Just as Winston Churchill was dimissed as an anachronism by those "in the know" when he called Hitler and the Nazis barbarians, so are those following in the Great Man's footsteps today ignored or ridiculed when they point out the current totalitarian danger.
And to Norwegians particularly I would beseech you to make every effort to disallow spiritual Brownshirts (and their idiotic Far Left allies, the modern equivalent of Quislings aplenty) from eventually doing to your nation what the secular Brownshirts and their ilk were able to accomplish in 1940. This is no joke. Time is running out. There is no reform of Islam, just as there was no reform of Nazism. Norway, wake up. Now.
savsiv: Muslims are not losers- We are the losers for letting them ride roughshod. Muslims are winners because they a bunch of barbarian savages facing a bunch of decedent, effete hyper-civilized buffoons with their thumb up their @rse. The barbarian always wins and the civilized always end up dead or abject bondage (which may be a turn on to some of those leftist new age fools).
I agree with ebonystones comment,"That's hilarious, coming from one who signs oneself "Mohammad". Is there a single Moslem country that has signed it"
This concerning those who routinely use rape, enslavement and oppression, it is as if Hitler were calling for tolerance and diversity. I sort of doubt that even the most muddleheaded mahometan would make fun of himself so naively, it must be an educated JW reader giving everyone a laugh by such an obvious duplicity.
Please have the courage to not delete this:
Many American Jews think that their civic responsibility rests with suing and bringing in the ACLU when the good folks of the heartland want to teach their children Intelligent Design, hold a nativity play at school, have a Christmas tree in a public space, honor the war dead by erecting a cross monument on a national cemetery, et cetera. Many others seem to support America becoming an atheist or at least a non-Christian majority nation, having open border, a disarmed population and the entire suite of new age, PC, ultra liberal BS which is ruining America.
In their collective psyche there is no greater enemy than the great White, evangelical, gun-loving, traditional man and all that he represents, such as intolerance, backwardness, religious fanaticism, racism, ignorance, violence, et cetera. Well, if they have any sense, most will take heed and understand that without a White Conservative Christian majority in America, American Jews, and by extension World Jewry, are left to fend off a billion angry Muslims, many of whom have keep to the dream of settling the issue that the Third Reich failed to settle, once and for all. History does not give many chances. Wake up before America is an America where Islamic thugs and their allies rule and the ship of state is piloted by impotent liberal politicians that fail to act to stop atrocities and anti-Semitic devious ones in the mold of George Galloway that alley themselves with the Muslims and set out to drive out the Jews and destroy Israel.
All Utopians are fools to a great extent. American Jews want a tolerant, gun-violence-free society, a nation that is open to all who want to come and live here, deconstructed evil nationalism, religious (aka Christian) fanaticism. However, I fear that one day they will awake to a dystopia which they have had a disproportional hand in creating. Muslims are hell-bent on fulfilling Mohamed’s end of the world prophecy concerning them. Please give them no aid in making the society emasculated, alienated from its roots and founding principles, so much so that their take over will be inevitable.
Killing Israelis, Jews or non-muslims anywhere by muslims is a fair game as long as we are not willing to solve the problem. The West and the US are condoning these activities by keeping legal (not banning) the Terrorist manuals.
Don't blame the muslims for their actions until you are ready to ban the muslim terrorist manuals aka quran or koran that are commanding them to carry out these attacks.
As long as these Terrorist manuals are not banned you cannot ban the actions by the followers who read and follow what is in these manuals. For example, since bombs are illegal to possess in the west by civilians, the manuals to make bombs are also banned and illegal.
Imagine if the manuals for making bombs were openly legal, could you prohibit someone from experimenting with bomb making?
Here we have double standards. Every terrorist act is condoned by the quran or koran (islam) if it is carried against the Infidels (any and all non muslims). Why do we ban bomb making manuals and we do not ban these terrorist manuals used to kill people?
Solution: Ban these Terrorist manuals quran or koran and the world will be a better place
For the record, one OIC nation did sign the UDHR: IRAN. Granted, it was the Shah's Iran.
Have_Mercy, it is NOT Jews who pull that crap. It is far-left, atheist, anti-Judeo-Christian types. Jews love living in Christian nations. The only other way we would have it is in Israel. Granted, there may be a few radical Marxist Jews who get in on it, but they are aberrations and a phenomenon that keeps me up at wondering what is going through their minds.
Islam will put those few Jews in their place when it comes down to it, mark my word, and it will happen very soon. The anti-Semitism of the far left, particularly given the way they've brought Islam into the fold, will most certainly make clear to those Jews what is up, and even if it conflicts with their ideological stances they will not vote for a genocidal far-left party, nor will they be complicit it furthering their agenda. It's not the Jews who you need to be concerned about. Reality has a way of putting us in our place sometimes. Worry about the far-left atheists.
There's a reason why this is a relatively new phenomenon and that's because far-left atheists have become more brazen in their suppression of Christianity. They hate Christianity, and their alliance with Muzzies has a lot to do with their new brazenness. I see it all over campus and it's disgusting. And it while there does seem to be definite anti-Semitism, Christian-hatred is a new phenomenon, at least in its institutionalization. Apparently the Human Rights Courts in Canada ony really mess with Christians. Zip from Weasel Zippers says that he got a free pass because he's Jewish. Note the difference in their treatment of Mark Steyn vs. Ezra Levant. Christianity-hatred is somehow more acceptable. I don't get it. It's biting the hand that feeds you. We would not be the US were in not for Christianity.
Jews were pushed out of Muslim nations and treated horribly (as were most folks) in communist nations. Only in Christian nations and Israel have we ever been safe.
The biggest threat to Jews today is Islam. If it does come down to genocide I have no doubt that the left will once again be wholly complicit, but it will be Muslims who commit all the atrocities and who will initiate it. I also think that soon Islam will force most of the far-lefties to make a choice and that most of them will end up on the right side, no pun intended.
The best weapon in Zionism's arsenal is the Christian consensus. It is also the best weapon in anti-jihad's arsenal. It bring mass to the situation, it has the funding, and it has the organization. It has the ideology.
Also, the only free-world nations which have any shot at survival right now are America and Australia and there's a reason for that: Christianity, God love it. Don't underestimate the power of middle America, and don't be freaked-out by the number of votes that Obama received. All those growing communities of minorities, with the exception a certain, fairly unwelcome one, are socially conservative. Jews who don't embrace Christians are idiots.
-jdamn, a Catholic-school-educated Jew from Middle America
km: that raw footage of the 'protests' in London was distressing to watch. It's tragic to see the British police running away from these primitives screaming 'allah hu akbar ' at them over and over again. My God ,we're living in dark times. We are seeing history traject right in front of us.. Other civilisations took centuries to go down. We're watching this one collapse in a few years.
How different things are in the UK from 25 years ago, when thousands of police got stuck into striking miners. Back in 1984, miners were frogmarched away from the picket lines and into police vans with blood streaming down their faces, after being whacked with truncheons. Many a former miner remembers being hammered with a truncheon, getting kicked by a police horse or bitten by a police dog, and slandered as 'the enemy within'. But in the here and now of 2009, the police are running like rabbits from the real enemy within, instead of getting stuck in like their predecessors from 1984.
I immensely respect you. I am well aware that there are a percentage of conservative and well informed Jews who do not believe that Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell are the most dangerous men in America, are OK with law abiding Americans having the right to bear arms and believe that force is the only thing that a savage understands. However, you have to concede that Jewish Americans are one of the cornerstones of the far left. The Jewish American mainstream is to the left of American mainstream. Jewish Americans file many of the law suits and legal challenges that are meant to strip America from its Christian heritage. Jewish politicians, academics, legal professionals, journalists, media honchos, et cetera are nearly always leftists.
Jewish Americans luminaries and magnates are greatly influential. However, I feel that they have mostly used their influence to drag America to the left, changing its fundamental and traditional qualities, which have left it vulnerable to an Islamic infestation.
Jerry Falwell's dead, Have_Mercy, and Pat Robertson, for all his wackiness and homophobia, is one of the bravest men in America, particularly when it comes to speaking out about Islam. I also maintain, as I have said in here before, that one can find some of the best TV journalism around on the 700 Club. Check out some of their interviews on YouTube. Do you see Walid Shoebat and Robert Spencer on CNN? No, but CBN has them on.
Granted, there are many leftist Jews. This is undeniable. But consider centrists and conservatives generally. Who are they? Do they have a voice in the media? Name a conservative in Hollywood. Kelsey Grammer and ...? Jewish or no, conservative America doesn't have much of a voice in the media. I think that current events wil push Jews to the center. Also, we're the best-educated segment of society and we do tend to make more money per capita. Having money makes you a conservative. Many poor Jews like myself fear the left in a way that we did not used to, especially given Obama's track record and friends.
Also, Jews aren't all in Hollywood. Hollywood is grossly overrepresentated, period. And yes, Jews do run Hollywood (not the banks, not the media, but it's true about Hollywood). They don't represent us any more than they represent you. More Jews are more conservative than you think. Believe me. Orthodox Jews are almost always conservative. The country is going through a phase right now. Also, do you know where a plurality of American Jews live? Not New York, not Hollywood: Illinois. We're in Middle America.
I don't understand the Jewish dhimmi phenomenon, but I think that its days are numbered. I maintain that it's the far-left atheists who try to dismantle Christian America's heritage. The few who on the far-left will move to the center once they witness firsthand the anti-Semitism of, if not the far-left, then the Muzzies with whom they've allied themselves. Even the wackjobs who don't like Israel will reconsider whether or not we need a safe homeland once they see footage like that above.
Most of us are better represented by Sarah Palin than Chuck Schumer, believe me. Jews are not filing very many of these lawsuits. They are, however, quite often the attorneys who represent the people who are, but everyone has a price. American Jews are not, by and large, far left of center. Minorities generally are very soon going to realize that the left is out to screw, not empower them. George Soros is one of the cornerstones of the left. That I will grant you. But David Horowitz is one of the cornerstones of the right. Happy 70th, Mr. Horowitz!
In any event, I tried to get every Jew I know to not vote for Obama. My mother, a lifelong conservative, voted for him. That does not mean that she's complicit in his agenda. She wanted a black president instead of a very old man who's had cancer 4 times.
Jdamn. Thanks for reponding. I hope that things are changing and Jewish talent will be arrayed against the Islamic manse. The struggle needs the likes of Hurwitz, Curtis Sliwa and others.
The sick savages and their religion of violence Islam. What a bunch of pathetic losers. Thugs and criminals are the followers of Mohammad. Yes truly they emulate their Murdering Prophet Mohammad.
"....knives, bats and Molotov cocktails!"
Items readily available at a local Mosque.
I wonder if the people of Oslo are still celebrating the joy of diversity.
Aftenposten is reporting that several MacDonalds were vandalised after a text message orginating in Sweden was circulated saying that Saturday's takings in the hamburger chain in Oslo were to go to Israel...
Probably hard to be a cop in Norway.
But here's another example of why Muslim-majority nations, on average, are so backward in every socioeconomic measure, except for violence, fanaticism and totalitarianism. In the admirable name of diversity -- and contrary to some who view this website, I think it is admirable sometimes -- in that name, we are importing to the West a people whose religion demands the establishment of a theocratic monoculture and the destruction of diversity. Even with only a minority of Muslims in the West, that monoculture already has the tip of a claw managing to silence and intimidate, through threats of lawsuits and threats of violence, parts of the media and press that might otherwise openly criticize Islamic law and jihad.
Israel, according to a recent headline, has warned Hamas and Palestinians to prepare for an escalation of the war. What is Israel supposed to do when Hamas insists on continuing to fire rockets from Gaza into Israel? What is Israel supposed to do when it offered 98% of what Arafat asked for, and Arafat in response made no counteroffer, but started another intifada? The problem in the Middle East is not Israel. The problem is a culture on the other side that brooks no compromise, that is insane just as the Nazis and Communists were, and that has clearly and repeatedly said and exemplified in action the statement that it seeks to destroy Israel utterly.
I think one of side benefits of Israel's war in Gaza is that violent protests by Muslims in major cities will wake up stupid liberal multiculturalists and maybe even sell-out politicians to the disadvantages and outright civil evils of Muslim immigration. Muslim immigration to the West has got to stop and even reverse.
Very conservative and even right wing parties will hopefully be seen more as a necessary defensive choice.
That video was horrifying. Worse yet, teargas seemed to be the cops' only real weapon. Teargas only causes this sort of violence to disperse radially, get on public transportation, and take it elsewhere. Is that the best Europe's got? They need to take some tips from some LAPD officers about riot control. I saw not one arrest being made. They should have enclosed the area and arrsted everyone. Everyone.
First, laws against covering one's face must be implemented. Second, people who do this stuff need to be arrested. Third, immigrants with anything on their records more serious than a speeding ticket need to be deported - quickly - along with their entire families. Mass punishment as an excuse for non-violent ethnic cleansing (yeah, I said it, meaning "send them home," not kill them) is what is necessary at this point. Stop Muslim immigration now.
People are quick to say that the French deserve what they get. I would argue that the Norwegians actually are, given their historical and present institutionalized anti-Semitism, but they don't deserve this. I do hope that they learn a lesson from it, though. This Jew-hating culture. That's what it looks like, Norway. Revel in it or do something about it.
FM, here's a sellout politician in the UK for you -George Galloway. He shouts 'victory to the Palestinian resistance!'.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pU2CmHzgX_c
London protest:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5l3_iwFXg
Just a taste of what is to come, I think.
What a surreal video. The perfect streets of Oslo, quiet and orderly, and the destructive Muslims, yelling and burning. It speaks volumes. They obviously don't belong there as they don't belong in any western country. Their cultural programming tells them they are superior in that they love death as others love life. They do not create. They tear down, burn, and destroy. A few of them wake up to the insanity of this and become objects of the majority's fury. Muslim fanatics need to be quarantined and deported.
"Third, immigrants with anything on their records more serious than a speeding ticket need to be deported - quickly - along with their entire families."
Very funny.
Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong. If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race.
That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral.
"....knives, bats and Molotov cocktails!"
"Items readily available at a local Mosque."
Don't forget open windows that magically sprout teargas!
Insightful footage. No English translation or subtitles needed. The video is self explanatory to the informed eye.
Speaking as an ex-muslim myself, I know for certain how dangerous Islams texts and the influence of its traditions can be in the hands of Muslim males.
Essentially Islams texts urge Muslims to be obsessed with Islam; and these fraudulent texts have ample statements approveing of violence to further Islams goals. In the hands of frustrated disaffected young men, Islam is a recipe for trouble - Trouble for themselves, and others.
"I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights...."
Posted by: Mohammad
That's hilarious, coming from one who signs oneself "Mohammad". Is there a single Moslem country that has signed it?
"....knives, bats and Molotov cocktails!"
Everything the islamists need for a party!
Mohammad:
"That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral."
@Mohammad: I believe the declaration of human rights affirms freedom of religion for all... seems to be at odds with Islam. Consider, Saudi Arabia... where no other religion is aloud to be publically practiced.
"That bit about deporting their families as well is actually funny. I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral."
-Mohammed (on jihad watch)
I, for one, found this to be laughably priceless. Since when do ANY muslims care about human rights. Lemme make a list real quick. I call it THE MERITS OF MUSLIMS
-They carve up vaginas
-They throw rocks at non-believes to the point of fatality
-They have contributed NOTHING to the world save the suicide vest and the school bus bomb
-They are anachronisms left over from the 7th century
-They are greed, selfish, vile, narrow-minded, pithy, and callous
AND WORST OF ALL: Most of them reek of unwiped a**.
I'll let that soak in, mo.
From pster with unique name above: I suggest you read the Universal declaration of human rights, try reading up on basic law as well - you do not seem to know what is moral what is immoral.
I personally don't care one twit about UN resolutions or edicts...But I might agree that shipping off whole families might not be do-able or allowable under 'existing' law...
However that does not relieve any family members
who aid and abet another family members jihadist activities, of some responsibility.
There is such a thing as accessory to a crime, which includes rioting.
Under the Death Penalty Domestic Terrorism act of 1991, revised, written by Strom Thurman and ...JOE BIDEN...a Domestic terrorist is defined as one, or many, who attempts to intimidate the public or the government. This would include throwing a punch at a strike. In some cases the death penalty is called for under this act.
Other things called for is the confiscation of property of anyone connected...If you used your home as a pre-riot meeting place, used your car or bus to transport rioters, your property will be confiscated, all of it.
I suggest this law be invoked if Mohammadans create violence at any demonstrations in the US.
I am just so sick of these pro-Palestinian Islamic thugs and their stupid multicultural left-wing supporters. What I find pathetic is that when a Jewish rabbi and his wife were tortured and murdered in cold blood by Muslim terrorists in Mumbai last November, there was hardly an outcry. Every day, there are thousands and thousands of black Sudanese in Darfur that are being persecuted and murdered by their Arab "masters" yet I don't see the U.N. (a useless and worthless organization) or Muslim nations condemning it. But when a little country called Israel retaliates against Hamas in self-defense, then the whole world condemns Israel and the hordes of pro-Palestinian thugs assault, abuse and threaten the much smaller group of pro-Israel protesters!
We must end Muslim immigration to western countries now before these blood-sucking leeches and stinking parasites take over us!
"If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race"
From poster above
Who said anything about race or color? Where did he say white bad guys are OK?
Don't try and turn this into a race issue when we know it isn't.
I agree with the gray-haired man who pushed down the pro-Hamas sign and said "Gaa til Helveta!", Norwegian for Go to Hell! He has guts and looked outnumbered by the screaming "youths".
'This Jew-hating culture. That's what it looks like, Norway. Revel in it or do something about it.'
A PRO-Israel rally was held in Oslo on Thursday by the leading opposition party. This was disturbed by pro-Palestinian counter-demonstrators and was one of the reasons the police were on edge today in case this pro-Palestinan demonstration got out of hand.
Nothing like this has been seen in Norway in over 20 years. There is a strong anti-jihadist, anti-immigration movement in Norway known as the Framskritt (Progress) Party. In the wake of the Danish cartoons many Norwegians became much more wary and hostile towards Muslims.
And looking at the anti-Israeli cartoons on this thread:
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/Anti-IsraelCartoons2006.html
it makes you think that all these countries deserve to go under. Firstly Russia and China - countries whose Governments have been responsible for the deaths of over 120 million of their own populations within living memory, Poland, which was conquered a mere 70 years ago, Spain - former al Andalus, New Zealand, South Africa of the burning tyre necklace infamy, and look at the UK's Daily Telegraph and Guardian. However Brazil looks like the worst culprit - but then again South America was home for escaped Nazis after World War II.
"Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong. If they are going to deport brown and black criminals, they should also deport white people for similar crimes. No one likes bad guys but if you say white bad guys are okay and dark ones are not it becomes an issue of race."
Oh my, YOU are assuming a lot. Who said anything about race in Jdamn's post? Trying for the race card are we so as to obfuscate? Or are you a bit of a supremacist racist also? Are you of the thinking that your color(whatever that may be) is the ONLY muslim color?
Well then, I'll make a small assumption myself on jdamn's behalf. Jdamn was probably talking about those immigrants who don't have citizenship where they currently reside. And get this-JDAMN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!
UNGRATEFUL RESIDENT-PEOPLE WHO DON'T RESPECT THE FOSTERING COUNTRY WHERE THEY LIVE AND THAT COUNTRY'S PARTICULAR LAWS AND CUSTOMS SHOULD GET THE HELL OUT!!!!
Period. (sorry for the caps guys but I am angry with this twit!)
Hi, vijay, mind if I ask who "Dear" is? Thanks.
Paintball crowd control.
Israel knows Europe's weak point. It will press on and give the Europeans a good taste of what they expect Israel to live with every day.
The European's can rant all day long but it will do them no good.
May Israel force Europe into self preservation mode.
Mohammad, my questions from last week? I will be happy to re-post them below. Oh, that's right. You're a spineless, nancy bitch and I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are.
Thanks for again demonstrating your narcissistic mental illness, Mohammad. If people can't accept the law of the land and abide by societal norms, then yes, deportation. They would be executed in the most horrible way in any Islamic hellhole. I'm suggesting a viable, humane approach, you know, the kind so unlike any aspect of the Shaira law you defended. If they were natives why were they yelling in Arabic? Oh yeah, because they're not native, just like you're not a Brit, since you support Sharia and de facto defended polygamy, sedition, female genital mutilation, and you pimp your daughter into incestuous Sharia sex slavery at 5 to an 80-year-old cousin for a pack of gum.
Oh, FYI, I'm 100% for execution of seditious citizens. 100%, black, white, brown, yellow, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever. Kill them all, just like the Rosenbergs. You should understand this, since you defended Sharia and it mandates execution for merely changing one's mind or engaging in consentual relationships instead of incestuous, pedophilic sex slavery, let alone for betraying one's country. And yes, being a human being with a brain, I believe wholeheartedly in guilt by association. Deport seditious families too, as they are complicit in the non-prevention of crimes, you know, like anyone who sits in a mosque and listens to hate speech or incitement to violence, or passes by it in the mosque bookstore and does not do everything in their power to have it shut down, have its assets seized, and have everyone affiliated with it prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, people like yourself.
More follow on links from infidelicious post, Londonistan footage, pretty nasty stuff as Eurabia takes root.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg&feature=related
Watch for the silly dhimmi cow, about half way through, trying to calm the Muhammadans down.
"However Brazil looks like the worst culprit - but then again South America was home for escaped Nazis after World War II."
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 @ 4:40 PM
Not sure of the reference here, Spirit.
May Israel force Europe into self preservation mode.
Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2009 5:28 PM
Here's hoping, I wouldn't hold my breath though the Israeli's will stop soon.
That was my thought, too.
Interesting that the declaration of rights is used against us when the last people on earth concerned with anyone's "human rights" would be named "Mohammed".
pfft
Kind of off topic... but... I just wanted to say, HAPPY 70th BIRTHDAY to DAVID HOROWITZ at Frontpagemag.com.
More trouble tonight from marauding Mohammedans and their leftist enablers in Londonistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7821928.stm
Thanks, KM...'run you kufr' was a highlight...
When are people going to wake up if not now? Doing the same thing all over Europe and it's still asleep?
I think Robert should make a video section on this violence alone because it's the same takbir + violence every time.
More photos from the trouble in London tonight.
The mendacious al-beeb is reporting this as a primarily peaceful demo. They are the enemy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111203/Protesters-clash-police-100-000-strong-London-Gaza-demo-descends-violence.html
I think it's fair to say that once you involve knives, bats and Molotov cocktails it's not longer merely a "protest".
More grovelling from our political masters, I'm so proud.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/4209135/BBC-criticised-over-broadcast-by-19-million-Arabic-TV-station.html
I have yet to see or hear anything regarding the rally in Washington today. Has anyone found anything on-line, or even a reference to it on TV?
Not even half clever..a mo' poster who thinks he can equate the struggle against islamists with some sort of racism. Look..clown, it is a fact that immigrants from India ( just one example and there are many more)who are not muslim..say Hindis just for openers, are more well behaved than most native born Americans. They are rarely, if ever, accused of crimes here. Contrast this with the record of muslims ( from the same country..same race), who cannot behave themselves under any system including their own countries, as pathetic as they are. Muslims not only break tax laws by evading taxes, they are generally a drain on the welfare system which depends on the taxpayer. Mo', this site has nothing to do with race but everything to do with a struggle against the most vile belief system ever...in the history of man.
More footage from londonistan. Close up video of the Starbucks that got trashed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sek9UCWczl8&eurl=http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/
Atlas shrugs has more details:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/the-muslim-hord.html
"These people came to the protest with knives, bats and Molotov cocktails!"
Why is anyone surprised by this? As the rioters in the American cities in the 60's found, the more damage one causes and the more heads one splits, the more funds and programs and "jobs" flow from the gummint. Violence gets results. A few quiet marchers with signs, maybe singing "Puff the Magic Dragon", doesn't. Anyone wanna bet that the Norwegian response isn't more concessions and more hand-outs and more "outreach" programs? I hope I'm wrong.
My only surprise is how little damage there seems to be. All those stores with their plate-glass front windows still intact!
"Deporting people from their country of birth because of a crime committed is wrong"
Mohammad,
Are you joking? In Islamic countries they don't deport people, they mutilate, decapitate, stone and tortue people for violations of Islamic law.
The declaration of human rights is an abomonation in Islam.
Islam is a religion of peace, and they don't care how many infidels they have to kill to prove it.
"Mohammad, my questions from last week? I will be happy to re-post them below."
Which questions? Please re-post.
"Oh, that's right. You're a spineless, nancy bitch and I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are."
Thank you for swearing at me. I don't know what I have done to offend you but since I am a Muslim and have no rights, please continue hurling abuse at me.
"I have slayed you and exposed you for the terror-financing criminal you are."
*chortle* Are you confusing me with someone else?
Please show me how I am a terror financing criminal. Please show me, WHEN you show proof you can pass it on to the authorities, if you can show, prove I am a criminal I will eat my mousemat and walk backwards for the rest of the week, actually that would not be possible as I would be under arrest.
I take it that if I am not arrested tomorrow or this week that you are nothing but a liar.
There's an idea Mohammed: We'll answer none of the questions presented to you and instead, fling invalid "promises" out into the open.
Now will you please, as one of Allah's chosen, please tell us wretched infidels why muslims seem to keep killing wherever they go?
Or are ya just gonna call me a bigot?
Mo how about answering this post I put to you earlier from the 'UK Muslim leaders to Gordon Brown: Hold Israel accountable -- or else' post. The thrust of the post was why should people trust Muhammadans when their loyaties are to the the Koran and Muhammad.
Here is the full post:
The rest of your 'point' is meaningless.
Posted by Mohammed
No it isn't Mo, Richards point is entirely valid.
We had this discussion on another thread (january 5th) where you stated categorically that your allegiance lies to the Koran and Islam and not man made governments. I quote.
I see no contradiction in being a good citizen of the UK and being a good practising Muslim. To me, Islam comes first, I put God before anything, myself, my parents, everything, my faith and conscience help me determine what is right and what is wrong.
Posted by: Mohammad [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2009 3:02 PM
I responded thus :
You might not see a contradiction, but I certainly do. As a Muslim you profess to believe the Koran is the highest authority on human affairs. Many of the laws laid down in the Koran and Hadith are antithetical to laws that we have established in the UK.
The question asked by Eastview in that thread and implied by RtL in this one is:
Are you willing to swear an oath of allegiance to the nation state where you reside, even if it conflicts with your religious beliefs? Here, of course, I'm referring to the concept of separation of the domains of religious and state power.
What you are saying is that your religious beliefs come first and therefore you will side with the Muslims and the Koran when push comes to shove.
When RtL says,
It's really that simple. You miss one thin Mohammad, if these people stay in the UK and grow then we are looking at future bloodshed on a larger scale. Then again I actually think you do, because at the moment you're playing the 'good' Muslim until Islam grows when you become the supporter of violent Jihad against the Infidel."
He has a perfectly legitimate point.
Tell us exactly why the people of the UK knowing this should openly accept you into their culture, when at any point you could turn in to a violent Jihadist who is driven by your supreme devotion to Muhammadanism.
Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2009 1:22 PM
Especially as your co-religionists are trashing major cities across Europe, why should we think any differently of you.
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km: that raw footage of the 'protests' in London was distressing to watch. It's tragic to see the British police running away from these primitives screaming 'allah hu akbar ' at them over and over again. My God ,we're living in dark times. We are seeing history traject right in front of us.. Other civilisations took centuries to go down. We're watching this one collapse in a few years.
Here you go, sweetie:
1) Since jihad is incumbent upon all Muslims, what is "your jihad?"
2) Do you believe in Muslim supremacy? Do you agree with Islam's teachings, which constitute the vast majority of your texts, that non-Muslims are vile, evil, inferior, apes and pigs, and exist for the sole purpose of being plundered, enslaved, extorted, raped, tortured, and murdered? Answer both parts.
3) Do you believe in the complete equality of all people, male and female, Muslim and non-Muslim, in all spheres of life?
4) Do you believe in killing apostates? If your friend had apostacized would you try to talk him out of it or would you be a decent human being, congratulate him for his capacity for independent thought and action, and respect his decision, not just outwardly? Again, two parts to answer.
5) Where does your zakat money go? Can you vouch for the fact that not a single penny of it ever went to an Islamic "charity" as it is supposed to? If not, you are a terrorist and should be deported. Again, answer both parts.
6) Do you pray out loud? This is important because doing so, thereby pledging allegiance to the Ummah and not to your country of residence, constitutes treasonous sedition. If you pray out loud your are not innocent. I don't believe in prosecuting thought crimes, so merely thinking them is okay.
7) Do you support any aspect of Sharia? If so, you are guilty of treasonous sedition and an indefensibly sick human being.
8) Do you agree that free-world, man-made laws are unarguably far superior to Sharia and agree to submit to every single one of them to the letter, including not uttering Islamic prayers aloud?
9) Do you admit that 99% of the mosques in America, Canada, Europe, and North Africa are Ikhwan-run sleeper cells and should be bulldozed, should have their assets seized, and that any Muslim who so much as sneezes at that is guilty of treasonous sedition and should be deported?
10) Do you admit that Islam encourages nothing but intolerable behavior? If not, explain, with reference to unabrogated Koranic verses, which good behaviors it encourages. Those which don't apply equally to all people (all of them) don't count, and we know that zakat = terror financing, so don't try that either.
11) Do you admit that Perv Mo was an indefensible monster, a child molester, a rapist, a mass murderer, a thief, an extortionist, a necrophiliac, a narcissist, and a complusive liar? If not, you're a sick person. If so, why are you a Muslim?
11) Do you admit that morality is universal, objective, applies to all people equally, and essentially consists of the Golden Rule? If not, go back to kindergarten.
12) Do you admit that Islam has not a single moral teaching, only evil and lessons in hypocrisy and narcissism? If not, explain, with citation to reputable scholarship, because all Islamic dogma and jurisprudence unequivocally support this view.
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Set 2:
You say that Islam forbids killing people who aren't attacking you. You must concede that Islam spread by the sword. Not even willful ignorance could account for one believing otherwise. Islam spread by killing people.
13) How did Islam get to India?
14) Why were 80 million people killed in jihad just in India if Islam forbids killing people and the Muslims were there for the express purpose of stealing the land and instituting Sharia, since Muslims can only live among kafirs for the express purpose of doing this?
15) The Jews of the Khaybar Oasis and the Banu Qurayza? They were both attacked while unarmed in unprovoked night raids. If Islam forbids killing people who aren't actively physically attacking you, why were they slaughtered?
16) If Islam forbids killing non-combatants, and no Jews in Arabia ever attacked Muslims offensively (which they unarguably did not), why did Mohammad kill or order the murder of every Jew in Arabia?
17) Is it because you believe that no non-Muslim is innocent and that we exist for the sole purpose of being killed, tortured, plundered, raped, enslaved, and extorted and you're lying? Or do you admit that the Koran and Hadith obligate you to do all of the above to every non-Muslim you encounter? Which is it? Do we exist for the sole purpose of being killed, tortured, plundered, raped, enslaved, and extorted - and you're a liar - or do your texts say that (still making you a liar) and Islam is sheer evil?
Which kind of liar are you? Answer both parts.
18) All the calls for genocide upon people you don't even know who never attacked you in Sura 9 alone? Care to explain those in light of your insane and absurd lie above [that Islam only calls for the mass-murder of people who are actively physically attacking you]?
19)You also de facto defended polygamy. Most Muslims don't have multiple sex slaves ("wives" in Muslimese) because sex slaves are bought and Islam induces poverty through no education, bad education, wrong education, and a prohibition against ever engaging in hard work with the exception of murder, torture, rape, plunder, and extortion. They have one sex slave because they can only afford one. Do you admit that anyone who would ever consider or defend polygamy is a disgusting, vile, subhuman barbarian by definition and without exception?
20) Are you a disgusting, vile, subhuman barbarian or do you condemn polygamy under all circumstances along with every single aspect of Sharia, all of which are in direct conflict with civilization and actual morality, and could only hypothetically appeal to the most inbred of child-molesting Nazi terrorists?
And the one from the Gordon Brown thread today:
21) Who do people like you think you're kidding? Even the leftist idiots who side with you know what you're about. They pander to you because it serves their agenda in the short-run.
And 2 new ones:
22) Why is it that every single Muslim I have ever seen, met, heard of, or read about invariably operates on the assumption that we have absolutely no clue whatsoever about Islam?
23) Why is it that every single Muslim I have ever seen, met, heard of, or read about invariably operates on the assumption that we will simply accept you even though you commit treasonous sedition, finance terrorism, by definition detest women, and pray for our death and destruction five times a day?
I'm waiting, nancy. Oh, and just in case you were considering slithering away, bear in mind that doing so means having gotten your ass handed to you by a 105 lb., blonde, female Jew who has Piglet decals on everything she can stitch them onto.
Tell us exactly why the people of the UK knowing this should openly accept you into their culture, when at any point you could turn in to a violent Jihadist who is driven by your supreme devotion to Muhammadanism.
KM, Brits are having enough. I am having enough. The British people will NOT stand for thugs chanting ALLAHU AKBAR while they burn, pillage and destroy.
Your video, more than the one posted here, enraged me. I think it should be shown in the same article.
The only problem is that the mainstream media are not showing the more graphic videos, but I don't know anyone that wouldn't be ready to spit blood after seeing something like that.
The Brits will not allow these people to turn the country into a microcosm of the worst theocratic tyranny. They didn't beat Hitler to turn their country over to savages.
Infidelicious,
I really hope you are right, but much as it pains me to say it, it should be noted that there are many Anglos mixed in with that crowd.
The Brits need to cleanup and do it fast.
I hope I'm right too, because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
The media is so complicit in all of this. I despise them for keeping these things from so many people.
Oh, look what you did, everyone... You scared poor Mohammad away.
There goes today's entertainment.
The NYTimes has reported that the Bush administration refused Israel's request for bunker busters and fly-over permission to transit Iraq to bomb Iranian nukes. Guess it might interupt the democracy project in Iraq.
Talk about losing sight of what the War on Terror was supposed to accomplish: Defense.
The government of Norway should get to the root cause why the protesters are behaving that way. It is naive to assume that they are by nature destructive. Their actions spell years and years of pent up anger.
Please consider their viewpoints as well. In your call to deport or clean Europe of Muslims, do let cooler heads prevail.
Paris,London, Antwerp the situation is the same everywhere in Europe. Large, uneducationed and radicialized immigrant communities threaten to overwhelm the the aging, scared native populations.
I see no no government in Europe anywhere willing to deal with this problem until it is too late. What the European future is urban warfare and genocide.
One day Israel may have to use military to confront hostile leftist-islamic governments in Europe aka Sweden, Spain
All the violence done by this pro-jihad Arab monglers should remind every non-muslims of their tendency to do it again and again in the name of Islam.
They are one sided people and ISLAM IS THE MOST INTOLLERANT RELIGION ON EARTH!
Right now Western elites are very much acting as Western elites did in the 1930s. Just as Winston Churchill was dimissed as an anachronism by those "in the know" when he called Hitler and the Nazis barbarians, so are those following in the Great Man's footsteps today ignored or ridiculed when they point out the current totalitarian danger.
And to Norwegians particularly I would beseech you to make every effort to disallow spiritual Brownshirts (and their idiotic Far Left allies, the modern equivalent of Quislings aplenty) from eventually doing to your nation what the secular Brownshirts and their ilk were able to accomplish in 1940. This is no joke. Time is running out. There is no reform of Islam, just as there was no reform of Nazism. Norway, wake up. Now.
savsiv: Muslims are not losers- We are the losers for letting them ride roughshod. Muslims are winners because they a bunch of barbarian savages facing a bunch of decedent, effete hyper-civilized buffoons with their thumb up their @rse. The barbarian always wins and the civilized always end up dead or abject bondage (which may be a turn on to some of those leftist new age fools).
I agree with ebonystones comment,"That's hilarious, coming from one who signs oneself "Mohammad". Is there a single Moslem country that has signed it"
This concerning those who routinely use rape, enslavement and oppression, it is as if Hitler were calling for tolerance and diversity. I sort of doubt that even the most muddleheaded mahometan would make fun of himself so naively, it must be an educated JW reader giving everyone a laugh by such an obvious duplicity.
Please have the courage to not delete this:
Many American Jews think that their civic responsibility rests with suing and bringing in the ACLU when the good folks of the heartland want to teach their children Intelligent Design, hold a nativity play at school, have a Christmas tree in a public space, honor the war dead by erecting a cross monument on a national cemetery, et cetera. Many others seem to support America becoming an atheist or at least a non-Christian majority nation, having open border, a disarmed population and the entire suite of new age, PC, ultra liberal BS which is ruining America.
In their collective psyche there is no greater enemy than the great White, evangelical, gun-loving, traditional man and all that he represents, such as intolerance, backwardness, religious fanaticism, racism, ignorance, violence, et cetera. Well, if they have any sense, most will take heed and understand that without a White Conservative Christian majority in America, American Jews, and by extension World Jewry, are left to fend off a billion angry Muslims, many of whom have keep to the dream of settling the issue that the Third Reich failed to settle, once and for all. History does not give many chances. Wake up before America is an America where Islamic thugs and their allies rule and the ship of state is piloted by impotent liberal politicians that fail to act to stop atrocities and anti-Semitic devious ones in the mold of George Galloway that alley themselves with the Muslims and set out to drive out the Jews and destroy Israel.
All Utopians are fools to a great extent. American Jews want a tolerant, gun-violence-free society, a nation that is open to all who want to come and live here, deconstructed evil nationalism, religious (aka Christian) fanaticism. However, I fear that one day they will awake to a dystopia which they have had a disproportional hand in creating. Muslims are hell-bent on fulfilling Mohamed’s end of the world prophecy concerning them. Please give them no aid in making the society emasculated, alienated from its roots and founding principles, so much so that their take over will be inevitable.
Perfectly legal terrorism in Norway.
Killing Israelis, Jews or non-muslims anywhere by muslims is a fair game as long as we are not willing to solve the problem. The West and the US are condoning these activities by keeping legal (not banning) the Terrorist manuals.
Don't blame the muslims for their actions until you are ready to ban the muslim terrorist manuals aka quran or koran that are commanding them to carry out these attacks.
As long as these Terrorist manuals are not banned you cannot ban the actions by the followers who read and follow what is in these manuals. For example, since bombs are illegal to possess in the west by civilians, the manuals to make bombs are also banned and illegal.
Imagine if the manuals for making bombs were openly legal, could you prohibit someone from experimenting with bomb making?
Here we have double standards. Every terrorist act is condoned by the quran or koran (islam) if it is carried against the Infidels (any and all non muslims). Why do we ban bomb making manuals and we do not ban these terrorist manuals used to kill people?
Solution: Ban these Terrorist manuals quran or koran and the world will be a better place
For the record, one OIC nation did sign the UDHR: IRAN. Granted, it was the Shah's Iran.
Have_Mercy, it is NOT Jews who pull that crap. It is far-left, atheist, anti-Judeo-Christian types. Jews love living in Christian nations. The only other way we would have it is in Israel. Granted, there may be a few radical Marxist Jews who get in on it, but they are aberrations and a phenomenon that keeps me up at wondering what is going through their minds.
Islam will put those few Jews in their place when it comes down to it, mark my word, and it will happen very soon. The anti-Semitism of the far left, particularly given the way they've brought Islam into the fold, will most certainly make clear to those Jews what is up, and even if it conflicts with their ideological stances they will not vote for a genocidal far-left party, nor will they be complicit it furthering their agenda. It's not the Jews who you need to be concerned about. Reality has a way of putting us in our place sometimes. Worry about the far-left atheists.
There's a reason why this is a relatively new phenomenon and that's because far-left atheists have become more brazen in their suppression of Christianity. They hate Christianity, and their alliance with Muzzies has a lot to do with their new brazenness. I see it all over campus and it's disgusting. And it while there does seem to be definite anti-Semitism, Christian-hatred is a new phenomenon, at least in its institutionalization. Apparently the Human Rights Courts in Canada ony really mess with Christians. Zip from Weasel Zippers says that he got a free pass because he's Jewish. Note the difference in their treatment of Mark Steyn vs. Ezra Levant. Christianity-hatred is somehow more acceptable. I don't get it. It's biting the hand that feeds you. We would not be the US were in not for Christianity.
Jews were pushed out of Muslim nations and treated horribly (as were most folks) in communist nations. Only in Christian nations and Israel have we ever been safe.
The biggest threat to Jews today is Islam. If it does come down to genocide I have no doubt that the left will once again be wholly complicit, but it will be Muslims who commit all the atrocities and who will initiate it. I also think that soon Islam will force most of the far-lefties to make a choice and that most of them will end up on the right side, no pun intended.
The best weapon in Zionism's arsenal is the Christian consensus. It is also the best weapon in anti-jihad's arsenal. It bring mass to the situation, it has the funding, and it has the organization. It has the ideology.
Also, the only free-world nations which have any shot at survival right now are America and Australia and there's a reason for that: Christianity, God love it. Don't underestimate the power of middle America, and don't be freaked-out by the number of votes that Obama received. All those growing communities of minorities, with the exception a certain, fairly unwelcome one, are socially conservative. Jews who don't embrace Christians are idiots.
-jdamn, a Catholic-school-educated Jew from Middle America
This is cartoons from VG (Verdens Gang), the best-selling newspaper in Norway:
www.vg.no/mortenm/
Notice the one from January 8, comparing Israel to Adolf Hitler. Anti-semitism is now main stream in Norwegian media.
Later the same day the pro-Israel rally was attacked by muslim and left wing scum. (I attended the rally myself).
Here is the email adress to the editor:
Espen.Egil.Hansen@vg.no
and this is their tip-off adress:
2200@vg.no
Maybe some of you got something for them..
jdamn:
I immensely respect you. I am well aware that there are a percentage of conservative and well informed Jews who do not believe that Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell are the most dangerous men in America, are OK with law abiding Americans having the right to bear arms and believe that force is the only thing that a savage understands. However, you have to concede that Jewish Americans are one of the cornerstones of the far left. The Jewish American mainstream is to the left of American mainstream. Jewish Americans file many of the law suits and legal challenges that are meant to strip America from its Christian heritage. Jewish politicians, academics, legal professionals, journalists, media honchos, et cetera are nearly always leftists.
Jewish Americans luminaries and magnates are greatly influential. However, I feel that they have mostly used their influence to drag America to the left, changing its fundamental and traditional qualities, which have left it vulnerable to an Islamic infestation.
Jerry Falwell's dead, Have_Mercy, and Pat Robertson, for all his wackiness and homophobia, is one of the bravest men in America, particularly when it comes to speaking out about Islam. I also maintain, as I have said in here before, that one can find some of the best TV journalism around on the 700 Club. Check out some of their interviews on YouTube. Do you see Walid Shoebat and Robert Spencer on CNN? No, but CBN has them on.
Granted, there are many leftist Jews. This is undeniable. But consider centrists and conservatives generally. Who are they? Do they have a voice in the media? Name a conservative in Hollywood. Kelsey Grammer and ...? Jewish or no, conservative America doesn't have much of a voice in the media. I think that current events wil push Jews to the center. Also, we're the best-educated segment of society and we do tend to make more money per capita. Having money makes you a conservative. Many poor Jews like myself fear the left in a way that we did not used to, especially given Obama's track record and friends.
Also, Jews aren't all in Hollywood. Hollywood is grossly overrepresentated, period. And yes, Jews do run Hollywood (not the banks, not the media, but it's true about Hollywood). They don't represent us any more than they represent you. More Jews are more conservative than you think. Believe me. Orthodox Jews are almost always conservative. The country is going through a phase right now. Also, do you know where a plurality of American Jews live? Not New York, not Hollywood: Illinois. We're in Middle America.
I don't understand the Jewish dhimmi phenomenon, but I think that its days are numbered. I maintain that it's the far-left atheists who try to dismantle Christian America's heritage. The few who on the far-left will move to the center once they witness firsthand the anti-Semitism of, if not the far-left, then the Muzzies with whom they've allied themselves. Even the wackjobs who don't like Israel will reconsider whether or not we need a safe homeland once they see footage like that above.
Most of us are better represented by Sarah Palin than Chuck Schumer, believe me. Jews are not filing very many of these lawsuits. They are, however, quite often the attorneys who represent the people who are, but everyone has a price. American Jews are not, by and large, far left of center. Minorities generally are very soon going to realize that the left is out to screw, not empower them. George Soros is one of the cornerstones of the left. That I will grant you. But David Horowitz is one of the cornerstones of the right. Happy 70th, Mr. Horowitz!
In any event, I tried to get every Jew I know to not vote for Obama. My mother, a lifelong conservative, voted for him. That does not mean that she's complicit in his agenda. She wanted a black president instead of a very old man who's had cancer 4 times.
Overrepresented, not overrepresentated. More coffee.
Jdamn. Thanks for reponding. I hope that things are changing and Jewish talent will be arrayed against the Islamic manse. The struggle needs the likes of Hurwitz, Curtis Sliwa and others.
A link for you.
http://www.generationj.com/archive/politics/oxymoron.html