"There is pressure being practiced to convert Coptic girls to embrace Islam and marry them under terror to Muslim husbands."
Yet another Islamic Tolerance Alert: "Abduction and Forced Islamization of Christian Coptic Girls Continues in Egypt," by Mary Abdelmassih for AINA, August 11:
The systematic abduction and forced Islamization of Coptic minor girls in Egypt is a frequent, dangerous and a rapidly escalating phenomenon. The problem was brought to light by the Coptic Pope Shenouda III as far back as December 17th, 1976, when he protested during a conference held in Alexandria that "there is pressure being practiced to convert Coptic girls to embrace Islam and marry them under terror to Muslim husbands" and demanded that the abducted girls be brought back to their families.Dr. Waheed Ala, renowned Coptic activist and researcher at the Observatory of Religions in Switzerland, believes that the issue of abducted Coptic girls forms the most complex problem in the relations between Christians and Muslims of Egypt -- especially because abductions are done in cooperation between Saudi-funded associations and the Egyptian State Security.
These frequent abduction cases are reported by Coptic human rights advocacies but rarely by the main stream media, and when, they are mostly portrayed as 'an elopement of a loving teen couple.'
Another recent victim of abduction is 15-year old Marian Bishay, who went out on July 15, 2009 to get dinner for her mother and young brothers from a local restaurant, 50 meters away from where she lives in Omrania, Giza, but failed to return home. The local police succumbed to pressure and issued a missing person report after initially refusing.
The Bishay family, whose father works in Kuwait, reported the matter to Free Copts advocacy in Cairo, asking for support. According to activist Osama Eid "the police just shrugged their shoulders and said there is nothing we can do, you search -- which we actually did."
When the abducted girl's father, Amir Bishay, returned from Kuwait due to the incident, the police refused to issue another report under the pretext that they investigated the initial report with no results. The police also released three suspects who worked at that same restaurant....
While we were still using IntenseDebate, there were quite a lot of comments to this article. I recorded most of them, so here they are, for the benefit of posterity, or at least, of future googlers and lurkers. I apologise for the occasional abbreviation of a poster's name.
VIRGIL said - "And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality." - Barack Hussein Obama
-EBONYSTONESTONE repeated- "... the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality."
So why has it [Islam] failed so consistently to make those possibilities into reality?
CN [Canadian?] - Because of their practice of polygamy, Muslims have an insatiable demand for ever more brides. What better way for them to decimate the Christian population in Egypt without a formal genocide: Confiscate the women.
- DUMBLEDORESARMY said to CN - Yes. 1. They practise polygyny. 2. They *reduce* the pool of available women even further, via 'honor' murders (ritual sacrifice of females, very often of nubile daughters). 3. They treat their women abominably thus causing significantly more women to die off young (before or during childbearing years) - neglect, beatings, child marriage [too-early pregnancies leading to death in childbirth, or death from injuries inflicted by vicious rapist 'husbands'], and of course, where FGM is particularly rampant, female deaths as a result of the procedure or from the UTI and other infections to which it predisposes the victim.
So: they run short of women; so they behave like parasites, stealing the females of other cultural groups.
I suspect that if the groups from which Islam steals females, were able to grimly and resolutely prevent all such thefts, and force Islam to rely only on its own resources, in due time the population of dar al Islam would implode due to the extent to which it deliberately destroys its future by killing off, directly or indirectly through systematic abuses of every imaginable kind, its females.
DUMBLEDORESARMY added - Western countries should end all 'aid' to Egypt.
Free people from the non-Islamic world can urge their governments to punish Egypt for this cruel wickedness, this stealing of Coptic women, by ending ALL 'aid' to Egypt.
And in the meantime, such free people can deliberately and ostentatiously boycott Egyptian products. They can choose NOT to go to Egypt as tourists. And they can let it be known, loud and clear, that they are refusing to buy Egyptian, and they are refusing to set foot on Egyptian soil, because the Egyptian authorities are winking at - conniving in - the cruel wickedness that is being done there by Muslim men to Coptic girls and women: the kidnappings, the rapes, the forced 'marriages' and the forced 'conversions' to Islam.
JAU JAU said - On a thread over at Atlas Shrugs, a very astute commenter pointed out that the case of Riqfa Bary could be a pretext to kidnapping Christian girls in America. That is the main reason I would want a secret underground railroad for these women.
-EBONYSTONE asked - But where would the underground railroad lead? The original conveyed escaped slaves to Canada, where there was no slavery. In present circumstances, Canada would not be a safe haven.
-KAFFIRKANUCK replied - Our refugee laws are pretty relaxed, except for the Czechs and the Mexicans at the moment, so Canada would be a good destination. We'll save their weeemen.
-JAU JAU said - Good question. I would think that it might lead to towns where there were fewer muslims. But that is an important thing to remember.
-ALKIDYA said - Hey man, it's safer than the US of A right now.
There are not nearly as many Muzz' in Canada unles you go to Mississauga, Ontario. Then you run into a veiled and turbanned wall!
Where I live, they seem to have disappreared, perhaps because a lot of automotive industry has died out. I think they've all either gone to Alberta-stan or Mississauga-stan.
I think runaway girls would have a much better chance of survival up here in the Great White North. As long as they stayed away from the bigger metroplitan areas like Toronto or Montreal.
-DUMBLEDORESARMY replied - Those with long shiny dark hair and big dark eyes and olive skins might be able to find refuge in the Christian Native villages. Blend right in...go Native (and get no-nonsense menfolk who would calmly feed pursuing enraged Muslim fathers to the bears and wolves). The fleeing girls can marry locals and spite the Ummah by producing lots of happy little Canadian Infidels.
NAKAL said - Yes, and I am sure that 'paragon of virtue' Butros Butros Butros Butros Ghali will now stand up and defend Coptic rights in Egypt...
NAKAL added - The Copts were the first Egyptians to accept God as a monotheistic concept after the Pharonic period, while the Muslims came 600 years later. Obviously, the Copts are more Egyptian than the Muslims but Muslims always try and erase all that is good that preceeded them.
CORNSYRUP said - Look the only ones who can save the Coptic Egyptians are themselves. A good place to start
would be right here in the USA. They have get radical, thats the only way to the mass media will cover them. This will put some pressure on both the Egyptian government as well as the US state dept. Then maybe something will done.
ALKIDYA said - I agree! If the Copts would make a scene like the Sri Lankans did maybe it would be covered in the mainstream media. It's a longshot though.
Mainstream media is keeping "mum" on most everything to do with Islamism. They're a bunch of cowards and "Leftist poop-pushers", all of them.
ICESTAR said - I hope Fox news will start carrying these stories of kidnapped Christian girls and forced conversions. This needs to break into mainstream.
-DUMBLEDORESARMY said - The lovely faces of all these beautiful Coptic girls and women (together with the faces of all those *other* girls - Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist - many of them minors, like 13 year old Anila Masih in Pakistan recently, who are being kidnapped by gangs of Muslim men, drugged, raped, violently brainwashed, threatened, beaten, used and abused and 'married' to Muslims and declared to be 'converts' to Islam, all over the Muslim world) and the lurid, horrifying details of what is done to them, need to be on the front pages of 'Cosmo', 'Cleo', 'Marie Claire', 'Womens Weekly' and every other women's magazine right across the Infidel world.
In some cases the girls are deliberately, cynically seduced/ duped by Muslim men who pretend to be in love with them; who even pretend to be interested in converting to the girl's faith; and in quite a few cases, the girl has a Muslim female 'friend' who is in on the plot, and helps to betray her to the kidnapper-rapists, by such nasty tricks as feeding her 'spiked' drinks.
This stuff should be plastered all over the tabloid presses of the non-Muslim world; accompanied by lava flows of pure and entirely rational rage and expressions of the utmost disgust toward the Muslim Mob, the Cult/ Gang of Woman-Thieves.
CROATCATALA said - Dumblesdore's army:
Dumblesdore's army:
agreed that all aid should be ended
but I'd go a step further and demand that
Egypt repay the Americans the 60 billion (plus interest at the legal rate since 1977) given under the Sinai accords
2) Abrogate all trade treaties and require that all deals be paid in cash.
Any furtuer trade will be absolutely conditional on stopping this monstrosity as well as returning ALL Copt women and their descendents to their families. In case of death, compensation to the families, return of ALL descendents and prosecution of the killers.
Failure to comply in any of these demands results being placed on Interpol's Red List, seizure of assets and travel bans
3) Finance the Copts to protect themselves and their women as well as to cut off all dependency to the Moslems."
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