An update on this story. "Australia: Three more suspects charged over terror plot," from Adnkronos International, August 5:
Melbourne, 5 August(AKI) - Three more men have been charged in Australia with plotting a suicide attack on a Sydney army base. One of the men, Wissam Fattal, had an angry outburst when he appeared in a court in the southern city of Melbourne on Wednesday.
Fattal was charged with preparing to carry out a terrorist act, and was already in custody on other matters.
Thirty-three year-old Fattal told the court he was not a terrorist and accused Australian troops of killing innocent people abroad.
"You call me a terrorist but I've never killed anyone in my life," Fattal told the judge. "You send troops to Iraq to kill innocent people."
Fattal is one of five men, mostly from Melbourne's northern suburbs, held in custody in overnight and questioned about an alleged plot to launch a suicide mission on the Holsworthy Army barracks.
Yacqub Khayre, 22, is also charged with preparing for a terrorist act, while Saney Aweys, 26, and Abdirahman Ahmed, 25, are charged with aiding and abetting a man to engage in hostile acts abroad, including the civil war in Somalia.
The men were arrested in massive police raids in Melbourne on Tuesday.
The suspects are Australian nationals of Somali and Lebanese descent and are believed to have links with the Islamist Al-Shabab group in Somalia.
Another suspect, 25-year-old Nayaf El Sayed, was charged with the same offence.
He did not enter a plea or apply for bail, and refused to stand for the magistrate in court.
A fifth man was expected to be charged later on Wednesday.
Re-posting original comments made to this article, as copied and kept by me, dumbledoresarmy.
DOGWITHOUTSLIPPERS said - These muslim planted terrorists are pushing violence in every corner of the world. The PC approach of the West and other freedom loving countries worked somewhat okay for most groups but with muslims PC has become a danger to us all. The rules of the game have to be changed, otherwise...
-BOAKAI NGOMBU said - terrorists without borders ... wonder where they got that idea? justifiable by Koranic reference, perhaps?
MUHAMMADBEAR said - Fattal is a genius. I can think of no better way to impress the Magistrate than to deny being a terrorist while using a line straight out of Al Qaeda's propoganda book to back that up.
MRSJ said - Shame they couldn't catch them just as they were about to commit the act, then he couldn't use that excuse.
MIKEW said - (quoting) "You call me a terrorist but I've never killed anyone in my life," Fattal told the judge. "You send troops to Iraq to kill innocent people."
Islam, always the victim as Muslims justify their bloody jihad.
Everywhere. Always.
PRAGMATIST said - Actually according to Al Bee Bee Ceera this AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN of Somali or Lebanese descent shouted
'"Your army kills innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan," Wissam Mahmoud Fattal shouted to the magistrate as he was led from the court."
Slightly different from your report and far more revealing about Mohammedan loyalties. They are TRAITORS and should be hung for TREASON. 'YOUR Army' not his Army of course this "AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN" traitorous scum what more evidence do they need to deport the scum.
DUHSWAMI said - 'The thought is the father of the deed'.
From article: ...I've never killed anyone in my life...
Maybe not, but you think about it a lot....you desire death for others...If you are not in position to
kill, you will give mental and physical support to those who are....In this way you are killing by proxy...This is very...Islamic...of you. The state will find you guilty, and you will be punished. Allah will not help you, but He will fix you up with a hot chick after you die...Allah is always willing when it comes to hot chicks and jihadi's...It's something to look forward to after all those years in a cell with Bubba...
-DOGWITHOUTSLIPPERS said - duh_, never thought of it that way ever before, but momentarily if my mind fell into their mindset driving on the LIE getting cut off by another car I might say "get your car out of my way you infidel pig or I will kill you." Just for starters but you get the idea....how their inner mind voice talks to them........"Kill, die, martyr, virgins" "Allah akabar" (over and over again - assholes.
TOAST AND MARMALADE said - they are becoming so predictable....using the same script all around the world
KRAZYKAFIR said (quoting T & M) - ".....they are becoming so predictable....using the same script all around the world"
Yes, while the military wing of the ummah is slitting your throat, the moderate wing is whispering in your ear - ssshhh you're misunderstanding all of this.
MACKIE said - And to think there are people in our US Government that want us to stop using the word "jihad"--why? So that we might not worry our little heads about it, and not associate it with an act committed in the name of Islam so as not to offend Muslims.
Would you prefer to call them "man made disasters" as Janet Napolitano does--in my estimation that would be a foolish mistake--does that make me a Islamophobic right wing fanatic or should there be another name for me so that I won't be offended?
By the way 7 out of the last 10 articles on jihadwatch use jihad in their titles---boy I guess where in real trouble now with Janet Napolitano and the hide the real truth culture in Washington.
HOURGLASSF said - What this article failed to mention was that one of them (cant remember which scumbag) yelled in court "I want to leave this country".
Oh please do asshole, and take your parasitical family, friends and wider community with you. We wont miss you or your kind.
VIRGIL said - And exactly where did these young, religious Muslim men get the idea that they should attack their countrymen? Where did pious Muslim Daniel Boyd and his friends down in North Carolina get the idea that they should wage jihad against America? Does Ibrahim Hooper, Ahmad Rehab, Karen Armstrong, Reza Aslan, or Juan Cole have any thoughts here?
DUMBLEDORESARMY said - There are many more details about what happened at the hearing - note well the threatening behaviour of the Muslim suspects' families, I suspect they came very close to 'blowing their cover' by indulging in a typical Mohammedan flash mob riot - at this link, which is based on a report for the Aussie ABC's news program, 'PM'.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/06/264...
The headline is interesting: 'terrorism suspect demands respect for his religion'. Says it all.
I do like Magistrate Peter Reardon, though. Here's the exchange between one of the jihadis, and the Magistrate.
"After a short mention of his [Fattal's] matter in court, he refused to stand when asked by Magistrate Peter Reardon.
'His solicitor told the magistrate that it was a matter of religious belief and that Fattal believed he should only stand for his God.
"I respect you. Respect my religion," Fattal said.
'But Mr Reardon told Fattal's solicitor that he did not accept that as an excuse and that it showed a lack of respect to the court.
He said that if it continued to be an issue in these cases he would deal with it at a later date."
Yay for Magistrate Peter Reardon. "He did not accept that as an excuse...it [i.e refusal to stand for the Magistrate] showed a lack of respect for the court".
Correct, Magistrate Reardon."
(END of my copy of original comments - dda).