King: "You're talking about threatening to kill a guy, threatening to attack his family, threatening to use an electric drill on him — but never doing it. You have that on the one hand — and on the other you have the [interrogator's] attempt to prevent thousands of Americans from being killed" by Islamic jihadists.
Another, and particularly apt, Which-Side-Is-Obama-On Update: "King on Holder: 'You wonder which side they’re on,'" by Ben Smith at Politico, August 25 (thanks to Benedict):
A "furious" Rep. Peter King, the hawkish, maverick Long Island Republican, blasted a "disgraceful" Eric Holder for opening an investigation of CIA interrogators and chided his own party for what he described as a weak response to the move in an interview just now with POLITICO."It’s bulls***. It’s disgraceful. You wonder which side they’re on," he said of the attorney general's move, which he described as a "declaration of war against the CIA, and against common sense."
"It’s a total breach of faith, and either the president is intentionally caving to the left wing of his party or he’s lost control of his administration," said King, the ranking Republican on the House Committee on Homeland Security and a member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence.
King, channeling both the sense of outrage and of political opportunity felt in parts of the GOP, defended in detail the interrogation practices — threats to kill a detainee's family, and or to kill a detainee with a power drill — detailed in a CIA inspector general report released yesterday.
"You're talking about threatening to kill a guy, threatening to attack his family, threatening to use an electric drill on him — but never doing it," King said. "You have that on the one hand — and on the other you have the [interrogator's] attempt to prevent thousands of Americans from being killed."...
"Why is it OK to waterboard someone, which causes physical pain, but not threaten someone and not cause pain?" he asked, warning of a "chilling" effect on future CIA behavior.
"You will have thousands of lives that will be lost, and the blood will be on Eric Holder's hands," he said....
"They’ve declared war on the CIA. We should resist and fight back as hard as we can," he said. "It should be a scorched earth policy. ... This isn't just another policy. This goes to the heart of our national defense. We should do whatever we have to do."
And the crowning irony is that these 'orgies of sensitivity' will not only not make our enemies 'like' us more, they will make us seem laughably weak. And every tid-bit Eric Holder feeds them becomes cannon fodder for Jihad rage.
And to think we have over another 3 years of this administration...I fear to imagine to affects O will have on the USA. I can longer stomach anyone I know that voted for democrats and support their agenda. Friggin idiots driving this country into the ground and friggin idiots supporting them.
Mr. King, the answer is simple.
This is what the Serial Liar (Barrie Hussein Soetoro) wants.
He wants an economically prostrate (capitalism) and defence (CIA) weakened America.
These are the bastard Dems who grew up hating their parents and spending years destroying their moral sense with recreational drugs. The 1960's have come home to roost.
Unless the revulsion is so great that America takes back the country from one end to the other and intends and achieves the "throwing the bums out" from Ca to NY in the next congressional elections, the future is a nightmare.
If you haven't been watching Glenn Beck this week, look for his programs on You Tube, he is exposing the advisers (Czars) to Obama.
It is obvious that this regime is all for bringing down our capitalist nation.
Go to You Tube and watch Grathwold's video on the Weather Underground....one of the founders of the WU wrote the "stimulus" bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUr3ifWpJ9k&feature=sub
"Hello, Mr. Achmed, please with sugar on top, tell us where you put that bomb, you naughty Jihadi, you? If you tell us, we'll make sure that the lefty judge releases you to the care of the Bahamas. Have you been there? Not too many virgins but a whole lot of sunshine, swimming, and yummy fishies. Plus, you can sue us from there for putting your handcuffs on too tight, and most assuredly, you will be given lots of money from our taxpayers. Do it, or else, I will be forced to use the tickle-stick on you!"
"Hello, Mr. Achmed, please with sugar on top, tell us where you put that bomb, you naughty Jihadi, you? If you tell us, we'll make sure that the lefty judge releases you to the care of the Bahamas. Have you been there? Not too many virgins but a whole lot of sunshine, swimming, and yummy fishies. Plus, you can sue us from there for putting your handcuffs on too tight, and most assuredly, you will be given lots of money from our taxpayers. Do it, or else, I will be forced to use the tickle-stick on you!"
Treasonous behavior sooner or later leads to treasonous results...Rasulullahhaha and his administration are on no ones side...The octopus and it's tentacles are self centered...
So far, Glenn Beck (as noted above), is doing a good job of reading the map...
Eric Holder would not be doing this without the direction and approval of Barack Obama. He is the one pulling the strings and he is the one who should be held accountable for the devastation that this is going to cause to the morale of, not only CIA officers, but all law enforcement agencies in the United States, as well as our military. Who in their right mind would want to even touch a captive on the battlefield, much less speak harshly or loudly to him, knowing that Obama and his minions were looking over your shoulder, ready to send you to jail if there was even the slightest hint that the terrorist was put under any stress whatsoever.
We are in for very difficult times over the next few years.
This is Obama's torture for moslems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS49c9KZw8
Now us....not so nice
Future brownshirts?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107357
interestinconundrum is right the czars series will be very "interesting" as they go on.From the self avowed black nationalist, revolutionary-communist green czar--to the science czar that believes that due to vested interest the state has superior right over your "right" to procreate (sterilization or forced abortion).
But back to the question who owns the Obama administration. You will need to get into your "Way back machine", Sherman.
Remember the Percy Sutton interview (if not here is the link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVO8MZYXo8
Khalid al-monsour (AKA Donald Warden) raised money to pay Barack Obama's tuition to Harvard Law. Khalid al-monsour is the financial advisor to Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.
Maybe some of the unusual actions of the administration (from the large: Egyptian apology to the Islamic world to the small: refusal to honor national day of prayer-but then release a statement honoring Ramadan) can be explained by who was the first to pay for Barack.
So much of Barack's past lies in the shadows. His life before Chicago was self created in his memoirs in which he admits to taking liberties and creating events and persons that did not exist. When Hillary sent out a team to probe Obama's background, no one seemed to remember him in college, or else refused to speak of him (his roommate at Columbia that had an alleged drug problem and may have been dealing).
It was if, like some modern day Athena, Barack sprang forth fully grown, an operation quite possibly paid for by a Saudi oil prince and his Black Nationalist financial advisor.
The Attorney General is loosely a willing puppet of the likes of George Soros who along with other left wingers has slowly and steadily promoted their agenda. Eric Holder has given many speeches over several years that show exactly what camp he comes from. He is anti 2nd amendment,pro-abortion, and has made it clear on his disdain for conservative politics. He has been a member of leftwing groups whose major objectives are to change things in the US Constitution.
There is no question that the actions of Holder are held by President Obama. And it is not a coincidence that Obama was on vacation in Martha's Vinyard when Eric Holder decided to make known that he was going after the CIA. There is no question in my mind that these actions will paralyze the CIA from performing the job that protects America. It is also no coincidence that Holder brought forth this action to distract from the deeply troubled Obamacare campaign.
This president is moving speedily towards his known leftwing ideological roots that if we really break it down between liberal, and leftwing, the true representation of leftwing thinking which is fully found in the Democratic party reflects only around 6 to 8 Pct. of the nations actual thinking.
I went through worse in basic training in the British Army. This is laughable and, as poetcomic1 points out, makes the jihadists think of us as weak not compassionate.
It isn't going to help our world standing if we no longer exist and I really don't care if some 7th century cult following herbert thinks we're 'bad'.
This is the same Eric Holder who in the last days of the Clinton Administrtion argued for the pardon of the Puerto Rican FLAN terrorists. The man's a disgrace but then so is his present boss. And we've got three and half more years of courting national suicide. Thanks for everyone who voted for the Anointed One. You're all partly responsible for this rot. Oh yes you are.
omg the CIA "threatened" them???? What unbearable torture that must have been. LOL!! Never mind that the torture the jihadist inflicts is billions of times worse. Guess O has never heard "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"?
Do these people not know that there is a war on?
All's fair.
I don't see the Taleban or any of AQ brushing up on the Geneva convention, or asking permission to cut people's heads off.
We still have that American soldier in Afghanistan who was abducted last July. By now, what do you think are his chances that he got his eight hours of uninterrupted daily sleep, ethnic-appropriate food, tv, hours to play baseball, reading material, and a lawyer to sue his captors? No, lets not be naivie: He was probably tortured, and if not beaten to death, beheaded (the video of which probably soon to be posted on Youtube). Yet again, they are (for the most part) not citizens and thus do not fall under our constitution (as such relates to our military's dealing with them), and they are not uniformed combatants representing a state or flag (and thus we are not binded by the Geneva Conventions). The degenerate and foolish left never ceases to amaze me.
Gary Ackerman, when asked just a couple of months after 911 about the MEK (an Islamic terrorist group opposing the Iranian regime) and the Iranian regime they oppose, put the whole thing in a perfectly concise nutshell:
“I don't give a shit if they are undemocratic,” he told the Voice. “OK, so the [MEK] is a terrorist organization based in Iraq, which is a terrorist state. They are fighting Iran, which is another terrorist state. I say let's help them fight each other as much as they want. Once they all are destroyed, I can celebrate twice over.”
Peter King for President, Gary Ackerman for VP in 2012!
The idea that we will be rid of all this in 42 months is wrong. From Acorn, to attempts to repeal the 22nd ammendment, there are signs Obama is working to stay right where he is, for longer than you know.
I hope the writing on the wall is wrong, but my gut feeling is it will be next to impossible to rid ourselves from him, or from his current position.
He may become the first American "leader fo life".
Islofob-
President for life? Have more faith in the American people. He is falling apart as we speak.
I've known what side the're on for a long time now. Everyone here does too.
"This goes to the heart of our national defense. We should do whatever we have to do."
Damn straight!
Note to dgene:
I still do recreational drugs and my moral sense is nowhere near destroyed!
This is war, and it's the results that count. There were no more attacks agaqinst the U.S. after 9/11. For security reasons the CIA don't give any details of foiled plots to the media. But it's plain to see, the guys were successful. Eric Holder is a moronic illusionist, he thinks he has to restore America's reputation, but it was never damaged in the eyes of sensible people. Who cares about the stupid ideas of Mohammedans?
Muslims don't just talk about brutally killing people...they do it...
Barry is on the side that bows to a Mohammedan "king".
An aider and comforter of the jihadis.
Ice cream cones in Bermuda Obama.
"It’s bulls***. It’s disgraceful. You wonder which side they’re on," he said of the attorney general's move, which he described as a "declaration of war against the CIA, and against common sense."
There's nothing to wonder about. It's perfectly obvious which side Holder is on, and it is NOT the side of most Americans.
latest news:
Abuse of USS Cole bomber during interrogation included that heinous torture device,
Exposure to second hand smoke.
http://www.thehotjoints.com/2009/08/26/up-in-smoke-cia-subjected-cole-bomber-to-second-hand-smoke/
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=174457
Holder needs to investigate and prosecute such terrible misconduct, hanging is too good for those CIA contractors.
(note the obama administration has hired Blackwater to provide services in Afghanistan) oops, does that mean they need to investigate themselves?
latest news:
Abuse of USS Cole bomber during interrogation included that heinous torture device,
Exposure to second hand smoke.
http://www.thehotjoints.com/2009/08/26/up-in-smoke-cia-subjected-cole-bomber-to-second-hand-smoke/
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=174457
Holder needs to investigate and prosecute such terrible misconduct, hanging is too good for those CIA contractors.
(note the obama administration has hired Blackwater to provide services in Afghanistan) oops, does that mean they need to investigate themselves?
I don't know about American domestic politics, but I totally agree with Peter King on Michael Jackson;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gH2gAXjAw&feature=related
What a refreshing change it would be to have such a straightforward man as president of the US. Not like all the lame smooth talking that you constantly hear from Obama. Please make him president my dear Americans. Greetings from Denmark.
"threatening to use an electric drill on him — but never doing it,"
This guy threatened him, I actually would of done it. Jihadis don't mind giving out punishment and death I think it's about time they experienced it.
"President for life? Have more faith in the American people. He is falling apart as we speak."
Posted by: poetcomic1
We will see. The effort by him and his supporters is ongoing, and support by some, but not all, Americans.
From where he is now, the agenda is on its way to tighter control of our country.
I hope, I really do, you are correct.