Once again the jihadists make their appeal on the basis of Islamic purity -- while Islamic advocacy groups in America insist that anyone who points that out is a "bigot," although they never get around to explaining exactly how they refute this claim of Islamic authenticity.
"Kidnapped boys 'brainwashed' to die as suicide bombers," by Stan Grant for CNN, August 4 (thanks to Stday):
SWAT VALLEY, Pakistan (CNN) -- The boys shuffle into the room in a remote army base high in the mountains of Pakistan's Swat Valley. They are disheveled, disoriented.There are no smiles, their eyes stare at the floor. These are the lost souls of Pakistan's battle with the Taliban....
"The first day they beat us and then made us exercise," one boy said. "They made us run and told us you will wage jihad."
They said the Taliban especially poisoned their minds against the Pakistan army.
"They just told us that they (army) are against Islam, are against the Quran. They said wage jihad against them; we are waging jihad for the Quran," said another boy....
I ask one boy, would he kill for God? He replied: "Yes."...
Here is what I, dumbledoresarmy, recorded of the original comments thread for this article. I think its content reduced most posters to stunned silence.
MUHAMMADBEAR - (quoting) "They said wage jihad against them; we are waging jihad for the Quran."
Well, that seems quite clear then. Taught to kill the non-believers in accordance with the Qur'an because that's what Allah wants.
Islam is a very violent religion.
-YANKEL said - "Islam is a very violent religion."
--MBear
I would say that:
"Islam is a totalitarian ideology that employs violence against its opponents."
SADM said - Atrocious real time Islamic Jihad kiddie snuff pron.
GRAVENIMAGE said - Yes--this is one of the chief reasons you so seldom hear "moderate Muslims" speaking up--because they would be considered "insufficiently Islamic", insufficiently pure, and even "apostates" who are, in the words of the Taliban, "against Islam, against the Quran".
So how do you prove your "purity"? Why, through acts such as these--kidnapping young boys, beating them, and forcing them to become suicide bombers.
This is "pure", all right--pure evil.
MOBAMAD said - Once again the jihadists make their appeal on the basis of Islamic purity."
Islamic purity, racial purity... Whats the difference between Islam, and the Nazi party? As far as I can tell they are becomeing one and the same. Their goal is the same. World domination, and the eradication of the Jews. By any means possable. No matter who dies, the ends justify the means.
Islamic party = Nazi party
-YANKEL said (quoting Mobamad) - 'What's the difference between Islam and the Nazi party? '
Mein Kampf- States that Germans are the superior race of mankind and that Germany is destined to rule the world , and dominate all other races and nations.
Q'uran-States that Islam and Muslims are the superiors of mankind and that Islam is divinely mandated to rule the world and dominate all other races, creeds and nations.
Mein Kampf-Says that the German State is to have control over every aspect of life. Says all individuals must submit to the State
The Q'uran-Says that Islam and Sharia is to have control over every aspect of life. Says all individuals must submit to Islam.
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Mein Kampf-Says that Germans have the duty to claim their divinely appointed place in the world by whatever means necessary. Puts loyalty to the Volk(the race)above all other ethical considerations.
The Q'uran-Says that Muslims have a duty to wage Jihad and to advance Islam's domination over the world (Dar Islam and Dar Harb) by any means necessary. Places loyalty to fellow Muslims(Umma)and Islam above all other ethical considerations.
Mein Kampf-Mandates that men are superior to women and that women's place should be limited to procreation, the kitchen and the home.
The Q'uran-Mandates that men are superior to women and that women's place should be limited to procreation, the kitchen and the home.(Admittedly, the Q'uran goes quite a bit farther than Mein Kamph on this topic)
Mein Kampf-Says that homosexuals are `race traitors' and should be condemned to death.(Many, in fact were murdered in the concentration camps).
The Q'uran-Says homosexuals are unholy to Allah and should be condemned to death
Mein Kampf-Sets out a detailed model for world conquest, including rules for how conquered peoples are to be suppressed and dominated by the German race. States that the wealth, resources and property of subject peoples belongs to Germans by right and the right to life for subject peoples is dependent on Germans. States that non-Germans have no legal or civil rights.
The Q'uran-Sets out a detailed model for world conquest, including rules for how conquered peoples are to be suppressed and dominated by Muslims. States that the wealth, resources and property of subject peoples belongs to Muslims by right and the right to life for subject peoples is dependent onMuslims. States that non-Muslims have no legal or civil rights.(in truth, a lot of this has it's basis in the Hadith and the Sunna, but both derive essentially from what's in the Q'uran., along with all the other aspects of Sharia)
Mein Kampf-Divides the world into `German land' and enemy territory. States that land with Germans living in it or land that once had Germans ruling it rightfully belongs to Germany, and Germany is entitled to get it back by any means necessary.
The Q'uran-Divides the world into `Dar Islam'(Muslim ruled land) and enemy territory (Dar Harb). States that land with Muslims living in it or land that once had Muslims ruling it rightfully belongs to Dar Islam, and Muslims are entitled to get it back by any means
necessary.
Mein Kampf-Blames the Jews for society's ills and says that they will be exterminated.
The Q'uran-Blames the Jews for society's ills and says that they will be exterminated.(`On the day of Judgement the rocks and trees will call out `O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me! Come and slay him!’)
-CIVILUSDEFENDUS said, re. Yankel's posting - Confirmation that : Islam = Nazi, Islamism = Nazism. ____My only addition is the 1400 years of islam and its "divine" nature that may keep the jihadi in the battle longer, his fervor greater and his hate unquenchable - all to the world's detriment.
-TANSTAAFL said - Was Hitler copying the Qur'an? I hear a sharia lawsuit in the works...
GOZAN said - (quoting) "'They said wage jihad against them; we are waging jihad for the Quran,' said another boy...."
--victim
"These boys are the victims of the Taliban's uprising here. All they are left with are the terrible memories, the voices in their heads: the voices of the Taliban telling them to kill, they said."
--writer
I'm amazed that the story is even being carried on culturally sensitive CNN, but the writing will make Joe Six Pack see this as a Taliban problem and not a Koran problem. Which is the problem.
MIKEW said - (quoting) "I ask one boy, would he kill for God? He replied: "Yes."...'
The question should have been, "would he kill for Satan?".
CHAMP said (quoting Mr Spencer's editorial comment) - "Once again the jihadists make their appeal on the basis of Islamic purity -- while Islamic advocacy groups in America insist that anyone who points that out is a 'bigot'."
True -- Islamic apologists refer to the truth-tellers about Islam "bigots". The problem with them playing the race card with regards to Islam & Muslims is simple: Islam is not a race, therefore neither are Muslims.
Islam has nothing at all to do with genetics, but is in fact an IDEOLOGY: a set of beliefs about individual behavior and the rules of society -- an EVIL set of beliefs and rules.
ICESTAR said - "The best thing the West can do is call Islam what it is, a totalitarian ideology with world political domination as part of its dogma, and fight it with everything we have, and on all fronts. If Muslims have been brainwashed, then they need to be deprogrammed/brainwashed.
Islam needs to be so completely destroyed that it becomes a curious footnote in history books."
END OF MY RECORD OF ORIGINAL THREAD.