The police participated in this torture and persecution -- after all, the police in Bangladesh are Muslims also, who believe in Islam's death penalty for apostasy and prohibition of proselytizing by members of other faiths. Islamic Tolerance Alert: "Bangladesh: Police Torture Pastor, Two Others: Local Muslim leaders prompt officers to arrest, abuse evangelistic team," from Compass Direct, August 4 :
DHAKA, Bangladesh, August 4 (Compass Direct News) – At the urging of local Muslim leaders, police in western Bangladesh have tortured a pastor and two other Christians for legally proclaiming Christ.Habibur Rahman, 45, pastor of Boalia Spiritual Church (Boalia Ruhani Jamat) in Boalia in Cuadanga district, 220 kilometers (136 miles) west of Dhaka, said he was about to meet with 11 others for a monthly meeting on evangelism at 8 p.m. on June 8 when local police stormed in and seized him and Zahid Hassan, 25, and a 40-year-old Christian identified only as Fazlur.
The first question the police commander asked him, Rahman said, was, “Why did you become Christian?”
“Using a lot of filthy words, he charged me that I was teaching the Bible and converting people to Christianity in this area,” the pastor told Compass....
The commander who seized him and the two others was a sub-inspector with the name Khaleque on his badge, Rahman said. Police dragged them to a nearby parked vehicle and transported them to Shamvunagar police camp.
“Police told us, ‘We will teach you in the camp how to forget your Christ,’ while dragging us to the vehicle,” said Rahman.
Police blindfolded them after reaching the camp and took them to three separate rooms.
“I heard blood-curdling scream from other rooms,” Rahman said. “I was sitting on the floor blindfolded. I could not understand what was happening around me. Later several police came to me and one of them kicked me on the back of my head, and my head ricocheted off the wall. They also kicked my waist.”
Ordering him to say how many people he had converted to Christianity in the Muslim-majority nation, the commander said he would kick him a like number of times. The official told him to call out to Jesus, saying he wanted to see how Jesus would save him, Rahman said.
“While beating us, police told us there will be no Christian in this area,” the pastor said. “Police hurt our hands, lips, thighs and faces with burning cigarettes. They beat me in the joints of my limbs with a wooden club. They beat us for one hour, and I became senseless at some point.”...
“Some Christian villagers then said, ‘We are also criminal because we believe in Christ like Habibur Rahman and the other two Christians,’” Rahman said. “They told police, ‘If you do not release them, then arrest us and put us in jail.’”
Police did not release the three Christians until 9:30 that night.
The next day, June 10, thousands of Muslim villagers demonstrated in front of a local government office called the Zamzami Union Council chanting, “We want a Christian-free society,” and “We will not allow any Christians in Cuadanga.”
The frenzied mob called for Rahman to appear at the local government office, and a sub-district administrative chief called in 10 Christians and 10 Muslims including imams to try to resolve the matter. In that meeting, the administrative official told everyone to practice their religion freely without disturbing others.
“The administrative chief also said nobody should interfere in other religions, but even now we cannot attend our churches for worship,” Rahman said. “Local people said, ‘You will come in the church alive but return home dead.’”...
First part of what I kept of the original comments for this article.
DUMBLEDORESARMY said - From the article - "The next day, June 10, thousands of Muslim villagers demonstrated in front of a local government office called the Zamzami Union Council chanting, “We want a Christian-free society,” and “We will not allow any Christians in Cuadanga.”
The frenzied mob called for Rahman to appear at the local government office...".
Observe the 'tiny minority of extremists'.
'Thousands of Muslim villagers.' 'Frenzied mob'. Islam - the religion of the swarm, of the riot, of the flash mob.
-BASEBALLMAVEN said - Yeah, where's Abdullah now...hiding in the darkness, no doubt.
"there's no compulsion" in Islam--you're free to be anything you want, but then you become punching bags and ashtrays for madmen.
so much evil
SHWEDONG said - (quoting) “Police told us, ‘We will teach you in the camp how to forget your Christ,’ while dragging us to the vehicle,” said Rahman."
Contrast this with violent protests riots by muslims for any perceived "insult" to their prophet.
The Bangla thuggery is in line with the murder of Christians by Pakistani mobs for rumored descration of koran or for any reason - like inadvertently drinking tea from a muslim's cup at a roadside stall.
There's a word for this and it's called Persecution.
MUHAMMADBEAR - Why anyone would want to associate themselves with the rancorous, viperous religion of Islam is beyond me. It is an abomination. It is evil incarnate. It is an ideology in the presence of which one can only experience utter revulsion.
It displays all the worst human vices as demonstrated in this story. It is the persecutor, the bully while in the same breath being the opressed minority that is deserving of special protection. It is the ultimate hypocrite.
You can be all of these things if you abandon morality.
CHAMP said - Note that the Christians were willing to do as the administrative official had requested -- but Big Surprise, the Muslims were not.
HESPERADO said - "This is what Muslims do when they have a "purer" society -- i.e., when they can flex their supremacist muscles more freely, not hindered by a circumambient society of secular tolerance enforced by laws, either Western-style or dictator-imposed as in Indonesia, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey."
(End of first part of original comments for this article).
Second part of original comments.
ISABELLATHECRUSADER said - Muslims must be very insecure.
-GMCCAL said - Yes, they can't stand any competition, can they?
-TANSTAAFL said - Insecure men with guns - not a good recipe.
TOAST AND MARMALADE said - ...the scum of the human race.......
-BOAKAI NGOMBU said (to Toast and Marmalade) - but, where would you rate those who are informed of this atrocities and turn away, or, do nothing?
JOCKAIRA said - (quoting) “We want a Christian-free society!”
Only One Possible Translation for That:
Christians Submit or Die!! (notice there is no compulsion after dying)
SALEEM said - But isn't Islam the religion of peace and tolerance?
What is it with all these 'Muslim Misunderstanders of Islam'?
Hey maybe this Islam thing isn't quite what it makes itself out to be after all...
Naw, Ya think?
ICESTAR said - Horrible, my prayers for the Christians there and throughout Islamic dominated countries.
Muslims once again giving Islam a bad name. What a surprise.
-KOLOKOTRONIS said - Icestar, I know you're being sarcastic but I'm convinced that n o b o d y, not even its posessed of the devil submitters, can give islam a bad name, islam IS a bad name!
GREATICON said [wished for Islam-free society]
-PULSAR said - Well said.........I hope the majority of the world's non-muslims wake up to the aggressive supremacism of Islam......and do the right thing...............squash it flat as merits its unimpressive prophet and racist book.
--MIKEW said - Well, you can't have an Islam-free society.
The likes of Gordon Brown in Britain , Barack Obama in the U.S.A., and here in Australia, Kevin Rudd, tell us so.
Having our daughters, sisters and wives pack-raped by Muslim gangs is good for them.
Having gangs of Muslims in our midst engaged in criminal activities such as drug-pushing and car theft as a way of waging jihad against the despised kuffar is good for a diverse society.
Eventually being forcefully converted to, murdered or enslaved by Islam is also good for us.
What are you, some kind of islamophobe?
EHCANADIAN said - (quoting article) "The first question the police commander asked him, Rahman said, was, “Why did you become Christian?”
Responce- Why do you follow a pathological sociopath, murderer, illeterate moron with the sex appetite of a thousand rapist's.
As a strong christian and one who plans on becoming a pastor when I am older my hearts are truly out there for the people in bangladesh who have to face persecution constantly from those who choose violence and oppression over love and compassion. Keep fighting and do not forsake hope in Jesus Christ who is always with you and continue to persevere against the hate of the people of satan who follow a false prophet who falsely proclaimed to know God. My prayers and the prayers of many others are with you and know that the tolerance of western nations are waining and that it is only a matter of time till the power that Islam holds over people is forever vanquised.
-BOAKAI NGOMBU said - that one became Christian demonstrates that the mosque is porous."
(End of second part of my record of original comments for article - dda).
(Re-posting third part of my record of original comments for this article; this included an exchange with the Mohammedtroll or pseudo-mohammedtroll known as Yom al Jumah).
EHCANADIAN said - To any muslims who may be reading this I would like you to know that I hope that you will look deep into your hearts and truly think about what you are following. See the light of Jesus Christ and realize that he loves you and that you only need to put your trust in him to have salvation.
Islam does not offer the promises that mankind truly needs.
The hope in your sexual fantasies and fallacies being granted in paradise can never compare to the peace and love that God has for you.
I truly hope that you will each look deep into your own soul and realize the ignorance that you have shown in turning away from god and I hope that you all know that I and many others are praying for you.
-YOM AL JUMAH said, 'Sallam eC ,
I too hope that the christians are safe, violence is usually never a good answer. Having lived in Pak for some years I have come across a few christians here & there.
They look & talk like us in Punjabi & wear Salwar like us. It's when they open their arms in dua....and say "Yay mera Khuda" (my dear God) ...and they follow it up with "Alai-lul-lia" whilst standing up.
Standing up I tell you....they are not even on thier bended knees completely offering submission...it's a sham you know,
you feel like spitting next to them to show your disgust (but ofcourse I don't because I am a respectable and educated person) .
I just think that if they pray in their own homes and keep a low profile , not wear a cross, and don't start playing loud musin [sic: music] & clapping & shoutiing "Alai-lul-lia" at the top of their voice ...they will be OK.
For me personally...I don't know how I could pass a single day without prayer and Islam.
-UNDHIMMI to YOM AL JUMAH - (quoting) "'Standing up I tell you'...they are not even on their bended knees completely offering submission...'it's a sham you know, you feel like spitting next to them to show your disgust"
Perhaps not all religious deities like their supplicants, er, bent over?
-KRAZYKAFIR to YOM AL JUMAH - (quoting) "For me personally...I don't know how I could pass a single day without prayer and Islam. "
I know how you feel, I can't fathom one day passing without using at least one sheet from the qur'an.
-WINOCEROS said to YOM AL JUMAH - Doesn't this post really tell you all you need to know? I mean, sitting on the "5" bus, right across from me, I would be thinking..."live and let live...to each his own...it's a free country".
Who fills their heads with this bilge?
-EHCANADIAN told YOM AL JUMAH - the post you just did yom just shows your hypocracy.
You want christians to not wear crosses or play music,
however how would you feel if we banned all muslims from wearing hijabs, and burkas and told them that they cannot wear any clothes that suggests their religion.
I can bet you that you would go against such a ruling.
You attempt to use your post to somehow forgive the muslims of the crimes they have done by putting the blame purely on christians shoulders by saying that it is their fault because they wear crosses or play music that praises the God that we believe in.
There are many things that make Islam and Christianity a different religion and one of the main things is the attire that we wear and the reasons for it.
I and many other Christians wear crosses not because we have too but because we are proud that we are following God and wear it to remember and honour the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross for our sins. It is not mandatory for us to wear it.
We[WHEREAS] muslims they wear their clothing out of submissions because it is required by them. They do not wear it because of it being their personal choice. So because Christians like myself wear crosses and sing praises to God because we love him, we suddenly are to blame for the persecution faced by [WE FACE FROM] people such as yourself.
Ask yourself this question, do you pray to your God everyday at the required times in the Quran because you love Allah or because it is required for you to do that. Most muslims would answer because it is required of them to pray at that time. The fact that Christians are willing to face persecution from others based on their faith shows exactly how much they believe and love God.
Muslims such as yourself are not willing to face persecution, instead they show their love for god by destroying and pillaging from Gods creations (man) in some despicle act of servitude to a God that loves war more than he loves man who he supposedly created.
One last thing Yom, this is something you might also want to tell others such as Abdullah Mikail-
You are making a very big mistake in trying to take a jab at me or other Christians, I have faced many people in my life such as you who have tried to challenge my faith, blame my faith for the wrongs in the world, or who have look to beat me in an intelligent debate. I have defeated men greater than you and more knowledgeable easily and I am not afraid to absolutely destroy your intelligence that is similar to that of an infant, you are definitely making a huge mistake if you think for one second that you can actually make an intelligent remark that I will not be able to disprove.
One last thing yom, I am 17 and I can guarantee you that I have learned more in my short life than you and others similar to you have done in your entire life.
-KAFFIRKANUCK told EHCANADIAN - You don’t need to play so nice with the islamo’tards. Esp one such as Yom a-la-hairy Juma who in one simple answer displays a contempt for anything alien to its’ belief; but if this virile clown (thanks gymgal) were to immigrate to Canada, this Schneider-car-driving-fez-wearing-wipe-all would be the first to scream discrimination to the nearest HRC if just a hint of what it just said was directed at it.
-YOM AL JUMAH said to EH CANADIAN - So modesty is not one of your strong points then! Sit down young boy...and wait your turn.
-EHCANADIAN told YOM AL JUMAH - "I can already see that your definition of modesty means for me too withhold the truth from people so that I am not politically incorrect and for me to bend down and give unworthy praise to people such as you.
By saying for me to sit down and wait based on my age is something that can be called age discrimination but I wont go there seeing as I have something that you severely lack tolerance.
the age of a person has nothing to do with intelligence that such a person possesses. In muslim countries people who are twice my age have half the intelligence that I have. If you need further more prove look at the literacy rate of countries who have an Islamic majority population. For Islam to suceed the people have to be idiots who have little education and no ability to think for theirselves. I however have seen the light, am educated, and as such as made the most educated decision which is to follow christianity and to defend the rights that a person holds. Something that people like you and muslims alike are trying to destroy."
(END OF THIRD PART OF ORIGINAL COMMENTS FOR ARTICLE).
Re-posting fourth part of my record of original comments made to this article.
MARVINCOPT said - We must give the Christians living in muslim countries asylum here. With some education, they could become a great asset for education about islam. You can not argue with experience. They will bring real stories of how it is to live among muslims.
-BEWICK said - totally right - but perhaps we should do it on a 10:1 basis. We take one Christian family and they take back 10 Muslim families
-DUMBLEDORESARMY observed - The Hindus and Buddhists (Chakma tribe) in Bangladesh are being treated just as badly as the Christians.
We - the non-Muslim world - could take in *all* the persecuted non-Muslims from Bangladesh...and send back our Muslims. Plenty of Muslim Bangladeshis in the UK, for example, and even some in Australia, who could be Returned To Sender, in exchange for the people whom their co-religionists are treating so abominably.
-SOUNDER said - Right on!
-BEWICK said to SOUNDER - And don't forget that the same thing is happening to Christians in Pakistan, Egypt, Somalia, Sudan and Indonesia and possibly Kenya and other African countries. And also to Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan and possibly elsewhere. and Buddhists in many places.
I KNOW Sikhs. I don't pretend to understand them but I DO know that they are hardworking and honest and pretty well totally integrated and they are my friends.Very good friends at that. I
also know that some Muslims may similarly be well integrated - problem is we can't tell which ones in the main.
Christianity, Judaeism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism pose no threat to anyone outside their religion. Islam does.
There Might just be a problem with Bangladesh on a 10 for 1 swap because there are still many Hindus there and such a deal might rid US of a Muslim problem but could leave Hindus remaining in Bangladesh even more vulnerable big time. Maybe India could do a similar deal? Finally make the partition of India (badly performed by my own UK) actually work for the best for all concerned.
If I remember correctly several leading Muslims have stated that other Muslims should not be living in the lands of the infidels and should leave. Are they listening? In practice if they sold up and moved to their ancestral homelands even the poorest would be extremely rich. In their position I wouldn't hesitate. Then again perhaps they don't really want to live under Sharia and subject to medeival tribal rules.
SENCIT -said (quoting) "We want a Christian- free society"
You really meant "We want a Christian, free society".
-EASTVIEW said - Yes, much better.
-DUMBLEDORESARMY said - Magdi Cristiano Allam, formerly of Egypt, now of Italy, formerly Muslim, now Christian, has just written a book - Europe Cristiana Libera - 'Europe, Christian [and] Free' (I think the book's intended as an an account of what Europe was at its best and what it could become again, not what the Islam-infiltrated mess it currently is).
He previously wrote a book called 'Viva Israele' - 'Long Live Israel'.
BASEBALLMAVEN said - What kind of religion is islam? It is so insecure, so unable to stand in the light of day, so filled with hate and violence and the desire to oppress out of its insecurity--it's almost like "if we tell you what we're really about NO ONE will want to be a muslim, so we will lie and dissemble, and hide, and oppress, and pretend we're wonderful because if people knew how evil we were NO ONE would ever be a muslim.'
UNDHIMMI said - Police and government complicity, the wrong kind of 'blind' justice; and the silent acquiescence of the rest of the world. Where is the 'international Community' when it comes to the behaviour of the triad of worst offenders - Egypt, Pakistan and Bangladesh?
Where is the outrage? Where are the lefties, hippies and students? Where are the mainstream media?
NOPCHERE said - If anyone anywhere put out a headline "We want a MUSLIM FREE society", how many microseconds do you think it would take for the MSM to have this in every news article everywhere in the world? The subtitle would be "Bigotry, racism, etc., etc., etc.
PULSAR said - (quoting) "The official told him to call out to Jesus, saying he wanted to see how Jesus would save him, Rahman said."
I wonder if Muslims call out to Allah when other Muslims are attacking them while they are praying in a mosque....Is Allah with the attacking Muslims or with the Muslims being attacked>?
IMNOKUFFAR said - I wonder how many people who are not muslim living in the benighted areas infested with these scum are crucial to the survival of muslim society either by dint of their expertise such as being engineers, doctors, surgeons, businesspeople, etc. If they all left what would become of that society, remember the expulsion of the Asians from Uganda after that the country descended into penury, anarchy and an even worse dictatorship. Amin was later granted asylum in Saudi Arabia by the way.
DASHSPORTS said - Next time there is a disaster in their country I suggest Christians stay away and hold back the millions of dollars of aid that has been sent in the past. Doom on them!
INDIANTIGER said - Bangladesh is a mirror image of Porkistan: intolerant and hateful of non-muslims.
Please boycott Bangladesh products. They seem to export textiles to US and Europe.
-DUMBLEDORESARMY told INDIANTIGER - I now deliberately refuse to buy anything I see that is labelled as having been grown or made in a Muslim country.
KAFFIRKANUCK said - And the madness continues: Dhaka, death threats against the family of a Christian convert from Islam
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=159...
EBONYSTONE said - (quoting) “We want a Christian-free society!”
And I want a free, Christian society, which would be a much more pleasant place to live than the society you want.
JOEBLOUGH said - Well mohammedanism teaches that there is no compulsion in religion.
But other than that it's hard to differentiate the story above from what my grandparents told me of how the nazis treated the Jews.
I bet those Bangladeshi Christians are sure glad that there's no compulsion in religion.
SUSANP said - "A muslim-free society would sure be nice.
"Could we trade our muslims for their Christians?
"Of course we can't because the West is in the process of committing civilizational suicide while the non-Western world is engaged ethnic/religious cleansing to purify their countries and purge them of the "other". . Everybody else gets to preserve their ethnic/religious purity while we absorb the excess humanity produced by the third world.
I never so much as thought about diversity in America until the social engineers and race baiters made an industry out of it; the media began harping on the subject day and night; and politicians became paralyzed by political correctness.. It isn't enough to be the most diverse nation in the world, we also have to be a multicultural nation so we won't offend our third world invaders by expecting them to assimilate. The more it is shoved down my throat, the more I feel like I'm drowning in it..".
(END OF MY RECORD OF ORIGINAL COMMENTS FOR THIS ARTICLE - dda).