"We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election."

When this article was first posted, while this forum was using IntenseDebate, there were quite a lot of comments. Luckily I (dumbledoresarmy) saved most of them.

Here they are, re-posted for posterity.

First part.

GMCCAL said -(quoting) " We hate democracy,” the pro-Taliban cleric said in February 2009..."

Of course he hates democracy. Under a true democratic system, one with equal rights for all, freedom of speech and assembly, and freedom of religion, Islam would quickly collapse.

There is no freedom in Islam. All muslims must necessarily be slaves of allah, the moon god.

MUHAMMADBEAR said - (quoting article) "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election.”

Indeed not. That is why Islam will eventually turn inwards and tear itself apart. Without consensus, there is no other way of determining what version of Islam is correct, other than through a sanguinary conflict.

The thing that Islam detests the most will turn out to be its nemesis.

-ALKIDYA said - (quoting Muhammadbear) 'Without consensus, there is no other way of determining what version of Islam is correct, other than through a sanguinary conflict.'

That would be a correct assumption but there is a movement underway to promote the Islamic Union in an effort to bring the different sects of Islam, Shi'ia, Sunni, together in a unified, coherent ideological force in an effort to create the global caliphate.

UNBELEIVER said - That statement should read something like: 'Islam permits elections in order to gain power; but once it
wins said election, there are no more elections,ever.'

YOM AL JUMAH said - And killing the Pakistan Taliban commander's INNOCENT wife by crusader drone missile is not going to help matters either. It's bad enough that they cannot sleep at night due to the drones and sleep during the day in a different bed and different locations.

You can bet that Baitullah Mehsud is not going to take this lying down. He loved his wife very much and I think it was her father who had tried to broker that Sharia for weapons down deal in teh 1st place.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-...

GRAVENIMAGE said - (quoting) "We hate democracy,' the pro-Taliban cleric said in February 2009, soon after the Government of Pakistan signed a peace deal that imposed Shariah across north-west Pakistan. 'We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election.'"
.......................................

Maybe they "hate us for our freedoms" after all.

Who leads in such a system? "Those qualified to lead people in prayer, he argued, 'are also eligible to lead the people otherwise.'"

Whoever is most "Islamically pure". And that will, most likely, be determined by violence. And after the establishment of the Caliphate? Then, it will be determined by violently clashing factions and brutal palace intrigues.

That is what the "Peace of Islam" would be like--we have seen it before.

In Islam, there is rarely a peaceful transfer of power--as there is all over the West, every few years, in country after country.

GRIMREAPER said - Hey what happened to the bicycle-cargo-Imam you tube footage!

I thought it was a joke until I read the translation on Atlas Shrugs. It was unbelievable. All the Belgian kids run out of the house to watch the Imam fold out his cardboard mosque and he proceeds to tell them all about praying to Mecca and extolling the fun exercise health benefits of prayer.

Geez, a lite version of the Jihad Mouse is here. What's next, Dora the Explorer in a burkah?

I guess Europe has gone to the point where they have no clue of any shared national or ethnic character. They truly have no clue, and have a weak religious and cultural values. That is why there is no assimilation. It is just a vacuum waiting to be filled by a strong dominant culture.

If they do wake up, there will be a completer over-reaction, and they will quite possibly breed a new Hitler.

GOZAN said - '(quoting) "Those qualified to lead people in prayer, he argued, “are also eligible to lead the people otherwise.”'

Absolutely, nothing like a Mullahocracy to make for a vibrant, peaceful society. Just ask the college students in Iran. The perfect setup for dictators.'

END of first part of my record of original comments for article.

Second part of original comments thread for this article. I have included two comments by Mohammedtrolls (Yom al Jumah and Islamophobia) to give new readers some idea of the way such posters generally talk.

ISLAM MACHT FREI said - Nothing new here - but how do they propose to deal with "dueling Sharias" - when one warlord (using the pretext of doing Allah's work via Sharia) encounters another warlord doing the same thing the same way. Since neither one is going to want to submit to the other, they would have to "out-Sharia" each other.

This would seem to lead to a series of Sunni-Shiitte-like rivalries, with the most ruthless eventually winning. W

hich is why Sharia and "Law of the Jungle" (or "Might Makes Right") are synonymous.

YOM AL JUMAH said - Please note that Maulana Mohammad talked about "no room for democracy" in Islam. He did NOT say that there is no room for kufr in Islam. He knows that Alla SWT has created Kufr (at around 10%) because these are required to make society function as a whole.

But I do agree that Islam on a global scale without democray with muslims forming 90% of the population and Kufr the other 10% would be a very different world to our present one.

To get to this we would probably have a caliphate in place,..hmmm! I wonder what part of the world he would choose as his headquarters.....not sure but I suspect though that the White House and Vatican probably make his list of top 10 locations.

{There were a lot of sharp responses to this, but I do not seem to have kept them - apologies - dda}.

ISLAMOPHOBIA said - Spinner will not post this on his site, so I'll do him the honor.

Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."

SO MUCH FOR CHRISTIAN TOLERANCE!

INDIAN TIGER said - I wonder if this woman will get 72 men in heaven, just like islamic men get 72 virgins? Oops, I forgot, women have no rights in islam!

-TANSTAAFL said - Just a thought - perhaps Muslimahs don't get any Muslim men in Paradise! That would truly be Paradise for Muslimahs!

JOCKAIRA said - In Islam a women who attains Jannah (Heaven) does so either by being a sincere active Jihadist dying in battle, or more commonly by being a welcome mat for her husband "For a women Paradise is being under her husband's foot."

Upon arrival at Jannah, a Muslimah will be given to her husband (if and when he himself attains Jannah) to serve for all Eternity. It is fortunate for women that Islam does not permit women to marry more than one husband, more than one would be hard to take in Jannah, not to mention 72.

As for 28 "pearly girls," well maybe, but they don't cover this burning theological issue at madrassahs populated solely by old men and young boys. In fact, the question is not permitted. Draw your own conclusions.

INDIAN TIGER said - (quoting) "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election."

I will re-phrase it as: we (kaffirs) want the elimination of islam from this world. islam does not permit free thinking.'

(End of second part of my record of comments to article - dda].

Correction to the above: I did in fact keep the responses to Yom al Jumah and Islamophobia.

Here is what happened to YOM AL JUMAH.

YOM AL JUMAH - Please note that Maulana Mohammad talked about "no room for democracy" in Islam. He did NOT say that there is no room for kufr in Islam. He knows that Alla SWT has created Kufr (at around 10%) because these are required to make society function as a whole.

But I do agree that Islam on a global scale without democray with muslims forming 90% of the population and Kufr the other 10% would be a very different world to our present one.

To get to this we would probably have a caliphate in place,..hmmm! I wonder what part of the world he would choose as his headquarters.....not sure but I suspect though that the White House and Vatican probably make his list of top 10 locations.

-JETCAL replied - I hope you don't type these comments with a straight face. :)
- YOM AL JUMAH said - I do keep a straight face.

Consider over a 50 year period where kufr have 1/2 children max, or prefer a dog/cat as pseudo children but that we have up to 6 children per family. This means that over time we will be the Lord Mayors, local councillars, and MPs (to quote the british system).

Imagine if you will one day when muslim MPs form almost the majority in Parliment & we have a muslim PM. If we then put to the vote to "dissolve most of the tenents of democracy" and introduce sharia.by the vote....who can stop us?

We exercised our democratic right to replace democracy....that's the law isn't it and it's done.

Other countries, Brussels, France, Holland...they follow our example...and hey we are not so far from this vision are we?

in 50 years...this could be reality...don't believe me ...study Sudan, Ethopia, Nigeria, Indonesia, Egypt, Lebonan, Jordon, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan ...need I go on?

So yes I have a very straight face....do you?

-JETCAL said - (quoting) Yom,
“Other countries, Brussels, France, Holland...they follow our example...and hey we are not so far from this vision are we?

“Sudan, Ethopia, Nigeria, Indonesia, Egypt, Lebonan, Jordon, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan.”

- All countries that are shining paragons of light and hope.
- Countries with high standards of education, healthcare and life for their citizens.

“So yes I have a very straight face....do you?”

Mostly, except when I read about the needless deaths of defenseless women caused by arrogant and unthinking husbands who fail in their responsibilities to keep them safe.

Then I am sad. Sad that a man, undoubtedly “virile” by your standards could care so little for the one he "loves and cherishes".

-JETCAL to YOM AL JUMAH - (quoting) 'If we then put to the vote to "dissolve most of the tenents of democracy" and introduce sharia.by the vote....who can stop us?"

"War of the Roses"

-REACHER said - Yom, you wrote - "Imagine if you will one day when muslim MPs form almost the majority in Parliment & we have a muslim PM. If we then put to the vote to "dissolve most of the tenents of democracy" and introduce sharia.by the vote....who can stop us?"

I will stop you, and my sons,and every other man and his sons.

You cannot survive, your own arrogance will kill you. You will be unable to stop yourselves from overstepping the mark - then we will stop you, oh how we will stop you! You very conveniently congregate in ghettos of your own making. We know where each and every one of you are.

-TOMDAVIS told YOM AL JUMAH - You say "We exercised our democratic right to replace democracy....that's the law isn't it "

No that's not the law.

The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that rights are inalienable. This means that one cannot alienate, or voluntarily give up, one's rights. And as far as I'm concerned, that is valid over the entire globe, even in soon-to-be-not-so jolly old England.

-SOUNDER told YOM AL JUMAH - Tripe. I think Ralph Peters has it right.

"Far from enjoying the prospect of taking over Europe by having babies, Europe's Muslims are living on borrowed time. … predictions of a Muslim takeover of Europe … ignore history and Europe's ineradicable viciousness." Instead, depicting Europe as the place "that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing," he predicts its Muslims "will be lucky just to be deported,"

In the end, Infidels are not going to roll over. Nothing close.

-FLIPPINHECK said to YOM AL JUMAH - (quoting) "We exercised our democratic right to replace democracy....that's the law isn't it and it's done."

I bet that was exactly what was going on inside Hitler's mind when he became Chancellor of Germany.

I suppose you can legitimize just about anything as long as you think it is justified. Why am I not surprised ?

-KARSHIKHANABAD said - Yoma al Juma, you have revealed yourself, your agenda and your religion/ideology!

Conquer, dominate, and rule with an iron fist those kafirs whose skills you find too valuable to merely exterminate.

Not gonna happen. And if it does happen, every kufi cap wearer had better watch his back.

-YOM AL JUMAH replied - so said the Byzantines empire...don't know if they are still around though?
-KARSHI KHANABAD said - No, the Byzantines vanished in 1453 when the Seljuk Turks conquered Constantinople and within hours enslaved every last Jew and Christian within.

I sense a threat from your response, O Muslim.

That's understandable since no Muslim ever produced anything of enduring value, knowing only how to conquer, pillage and rape.

Lead your conquering legions, O Y al J. We pitiful kafirs can only quake in fear.

(But first, you've got to take our guns away. Just that little annoying detail. and lots of us hateful kafirs lubricate our bullets with pig grease.) ;^)

-JETCAL said to KARSHI KHANABAD - The Russians are watching events carefully. The Orthodox are concerned about the holy sites.
-ISABELLATHECRUSADER told YOM AL JUMAH - LOL! Your 10-90 ratio is a little bit off, wouldn't you say? You've had 1400 years to achieve this and still no cigar. And just wait until the oil runs out. Then what will your guys do for money, sell dog-on-a-log? Yeah, that will bring the big bucks in.

BTW, classic Naseemism:

"To get to this we would probably have a caliphate in place,..hmmm! I wonder what part of the world he would choose as his headquarters.....not sure but I suspect though that the White House and Vatican probably make his list of top 10 locations."

Yom-seem, you ain't foolin' nobody, sweetheart. ; )

-SAXONLANDS said to ISABELLATHECRUSADER - (quoting) "And just wait until the oil runs out. Then what will your guys do for money, sell dog-on-a-log? Yeah, that will bring the big bucks in."

Awesome. I was in stiches! Id rate that to +1,000,000 if I could!

-EBONYSTONE told YOM AL JUMAH - (quoting) "Maulana Mohammad talked about "no room for democracy" in Islam. He did NOT say that there is no room for kufr in Islam. He knows that Alla SWT has created Kufr (at around 10%) because these are required to make society function as a whole."

So, 10% Kufr are required to make society function.

That means that a society that is 100% Moslem cannot function.

This seems to be borne out historically. Countries conquered by the Moslems did pretty well at first, when there was still a majority of non-Moslems.

But as the numbers of unbelievers dwindled due to oppression and ethnic cleansing, these countries became increasingly disfunctional.

When the percentage approaches 100%, the society virtually collapses -- see Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan for examples.
Since it's the unbelievers that make society function. that means the Moslems are superfluous drones. They're useless, like the tits on a boar hog.

-KARSHIKHANABAD to EBONYSTONE - (quoting) "Muslims are superfluous drones"

An insult to drone bees. They're harmless, they fertilize the queen bees, then are exterminated by the infertile female worker bees. A far nobler creature, IMO.

Muslims are...are.... (don't wanted to get banned here) as dangerous as they are useless to a peaceful, functioning society. Y al J just proved it out of heeshee's own mouth.

-BEAUTYOFREASON replied to YOM AL JUMAH - Oh, goody. No room for democracy but we non-believers can live as slaves or second-class citizens under Muslim supremacists !

No thanks. Never, not a chance in hell. I believe that Americans carry guns to prevent tyranny from advancing, from government or any extrinsic source.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for me....

In fact, one of the mottos of the original 13 colonies was "Death to tyrants." Patrick Henry, a famous patriot, once said "Give me liberty, or give me death." We Americans do take our freedoms seriously and we will not be overrun by some Islamic morons anytime soon.

-TOM DAVIS agreed with BEAUTY OF REASON - Sic semper tyrannis!"

[and that's what people said to the first Mohammedtroll in this thread - dda].

Now for what happened to the second Mohammedtroll in this thread, 'Islamophobia', who attempted some offtopic tu quoque.

ISLAMOPHOBIA said - Spinner will not post this on his site, so I'll do him the honor.

'Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

'A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."

SO MUCH FOR CHRISTIAN TOLERANCE!

-JETCAL told ISLAMOPHOBIA - Let us see how this plays out. If the allegations can be proven, then hopefully justice will prevail.

-ISLAMOPHOBIA told JETCAL - The full article is here: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill

It goes without saying, that such christian extremists exist, contrary to Spinner's deceptive tactics indicting only "Muslims" as possessing this "unique" mindset to dominate the world and "rid" the infidels.

By the way, Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary states the following on the term "infidel":

Main Entry: in·fi·del
Pronunciation: 'in-f&-d & l, -f&-"del
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English infidele, from Middle French, from Late Latin infidelis unbelieving, from Latin, unfaithful, from in- + fidelis faithful -- more at FIDELITY
1: one who is not a Christian or who opposes Christianity
2 a: an unbeliever with respect to a particular religion b : one who acknowledges no religious belief
3: a disbeliever in something specified or understood
infidel adjective

-JETCAL told ISLAMOPHOBIA - (quoting) "It goes without saying, that such Christian extremists exist,…”

Sure, and they even get into positions of power, but the system will eventually catch up to them and if guilty, hold them accountable.

But sir, I am afraid the vast majority of deaths perpetuated today in the name of religion are done by Muslims either upon non-Muslims or upon other Muslims.

As far as your Merriam-Webster definition; I suspect we can both agree the ranking of the definitions are in the eye of the beholder.

-HESPERADO told ISLAMOPHOBIA - Your source is The Nation! You reject Fox News, we reject The Nation. Goose, gander.

-ANONAMUSTAFA told ISLAMOPHOBIA - Spin this.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

So much for your weak non-argument.

Back to the playground with you,child.

-KAFFIRKANUCK told ISLAMOPHOBIA - There are nut-jobs everywhere.

But the big difference is you don’t have religious leaders in Christianity calling for such action in the name of God or religion today.
(Or any other religion other than islam, and when they do, the government they fall under doesn’t condone it – but seeing as this is the way islam continues to do business, perhaps another crusade is the exact thing islam needs to put it back in its’ place again!)

So you must be proud. You managed to suss out one little story about a Christian breaking the law in the name of religion. Falls pretty short when compared to the ongoing atrocities being committed by islam in the name of religion on a regular daily basis.

-DUHSWAMI told ISLAMOPHOBIA - I hate to tell you this but the former employee's statements come under the 'somebody said', school of gossip. Somebody says lots of things, most of them BS...And it matters little what Prince personal opinion is, he does not speak or act for Christianity, or Christians...He is acting on behalf of his primitive ego...If he is a Christian who is acting up, it is in spite of Christianity, not because of it...

-CHAMP told ISLAMOPHOBIA - 'Christianophobe -- assuming that so-in-so's testimony is true, then SO WHAT! The bottom line is what matters, and the bottom line is the founder of Christianity:
Jesus Christ.

Come on, you don't honestly believe that Jesus Christ condones this sort of criminal behavior from individual Christians, do you? Ironically, it is your prophet, Muhammad, that condones these types of crimes, so I'm afraid that you're ranting 'n raving in the wrong direction.

Having said that, a Christian can morally and legally own a weapon and defend him/herself if need be under the law; or a nation, a "Christian" nation or otherwise, can morally and legally defend itself against an enemy as well. But Jesus Christ does not sanction or instruct individual Christians to go out and murder people, No, that would be Muhammad's demonic department. Jesus does sanction both individuals and nations to protect and defend themselves against attacks, though."

(And that's where *that* exchange finished).

Next section of my record of the original comments thread for this article.

HUGH (Hugh Fitzgerald) said - This cleric states the following: "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election."

Is there anything he has said that is not perfectly orthodox Islam?

Are not Muslims taught that they have a duty to engage, either as a collective or individually (depending on certain circumstances), in Jihad -- that is the struggle to remove all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam, until it dominates, and Muslims rule, everywhere?

Is that not what the texts and tenets of Islam say?

Do they say: accept the permanent existence of Infidel nation-states?

Do they say: make peace treaties with Infidels, recognize their rights, and do not breach those treaties even when you are stronger?

Do they say: every government should reflect the will of the people, as expressed in elections, which will is superior even to the Will of Allah as expressed in the Qur'an and glossed by the Sunnah?

There is nothing here but orthodox Islam.

The government of Pakistan, the clerics supported by the government, cannot call these remarks into question on Islamic grounds, and they do not try.

There are those in the West who continue to believe, because some Muslims refuse to endorse or carry out in practice -- not least because at the moment their immediate interests, especially their continued acceptance and presence in the until-now heedless West, could suffer as a result -- the teachings of Islam.

But the teachings, the worldview, remain. And they are being expressed not by smiling leaders extracting more and yet more money and war materiel from the ever-generous Americans, but by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and even, in its campaign to defeat Hamas, Fatah which has recently been declaring it is as Islamic as all getout, and even more successful in its past use of terrorism, than that recent usurper, Hamas.

-KAFFIRKANUCK replied to HUGH - Indeed. The bragging rights to who has the biggest terrorist butcher’s bill never seems to make the MSM. If it did, it certainly would turn the smiling expressions of the war material and monetary extracting leader’s upside down into a frown (or a sideways crecent).

DUHSWAMI said - (quoting) "Those qualified to lead people in prayer, he argued, “are also eligible to lead the people otherwise.”

Uh huh...They tried that in Iran and look what it got them...

So it appears that Tolstoy was right when he said 'The good cannot seek power nor retain it...'

This applies to Mahoundian Imams as well as kufr power seekers...None of them are any 'good'...

SECULARSLUT said - (quoting) "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world."

Tell that to the Chinese!

-KAFFIRKANUCK said - And with that very declaration, the 57 Nations of islam better brush up on their Mandarin, ‘cause nobody messes with the Chinese, not even other Chinese.

Besides, they have a sudden surplus ratio of men due to the one child policy for the past generation. That’s quite a large male population just lookin’ for a fight, and the mad mullahs have already started to goad the People’s Republic.

-SAXONLANDS said - Dont forget the Russkies, who arent particularly in love the muslims. Both the Chinese and Russians wouldnt have the hesitation we do to pop a few thousand megaton nukes over the Arab world if the need arouse.

-IRON GAUNTLET said - Russia doesn't do much when it comes to jihad.
They see jihad as a western problem.
And Russia hates the west.

That said, they encourage it to some extent.
Unless it's in Chechnya...

-SAXONLANDS told IRONGAUNTLET - 'I'm not sure they encourage it, unless its selling weapons to them, while we do they same with Saudi, Egypt and other Islamic states.

Remember,the russians are still pissed off at the west for aiding and supplying the mujahadeen against them in Afghanistan, but they will not forget Beslan."

END OF THIS PORTION OF MY RECORD OF THIS THREAD - dda.

Final portion of dumbledoresarmy's record of the original comments for this article. Note the exchange with the third Mohammedtroll, Abdullah Mikail.

ABDULLAH MIKAIL - OT: HB 1645 Oklahoma, shot down for violation of First Amendment Rights.

I am gonna wave my free flag high!

-CHAMP said to ABDULLAHMIKAIL - AM = Ataqiyya Meister

-JOCKAIRA told ABDULLAH MIKAIL - AM, for those of us who don't know about HB 1645 Oklahoma, would you please provide a short synopsis

-KAFFIRKANUCK said - "...a bill that would prohibit Oklahomans from wearing head scarves and head garments in driver’s license photographs."

http://newsok.com/groups-oppose-oklahoma-drivers-...

-JOCKAIRA told KAFFIRKANUCK - Thank you Kaffir Kanuck.

Driving on a public highway is a privilege and not a right. If a person wants a license to operate a vehicle on a public highway then he must comply with the policies of the Department of Motor Vehicles. These policies can be any that are considered wise by the administrators, by the legislators, or by the taxpayers.

The wearing of head garments for an identification photograph obviously opens up the whole process to abuse and false identifications.

I imagine that protest was made on the basis of restriction of religious expression. If you want to express yourself religiously, a driver's license photo is the wrong place.

-ABDULLAHMIKAIL told JOCKAIRA - The First Amendment says otherwise, and the Judge agrees.

-JETCAL said - Within LIMITS, I have to agree with AM. The case in Michigan where the woman wanted to have her face completely covered except for her eyes is pure unadulterated B.S.
But, if the picture is done in a way that enables law enforcement to make a quick, positive ID, I can live with it.

-ABDULLAH MIKAIL to IRONGAUNTLET (quoting) –
"look at Theo van Gogh"

You can see him through all that dirt?

Wow you got good eyes....

-KARSHIKHANABAD said - Theo van Gogh was murdered, you worthless Muslim enabler!

Be careful where you wear your in-your-face-infidel kufi cap.

-ISABELLATHECRUSADER said - We see you with two eyes, not just one. ; )

FLIPPINHECK said - (quoting) "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election"

I would quite happily swap ANY Muslim immigrant in the West with:

- a Sikh / Hindu / Jain / Parsi Indian
- a Baha'i / Zoroastrian Iranian
- a Pakistani Christian
- a Roman Catholic Filippino
- a Thai or Cambodian Bhuddist
- a Coptic Egyptian
- a Christian Ethiopian
- any Jew
- any Turk / Arab belonging to a Nestorian Church
- Eastern Europeans belonging to the Orthodox Church
-.....

to name just a few.

At least that way, we would live in a more harmonious society today where respect for democracy and individual human rights would be upheld by all law-abiding citizens in a concerted effort, regardless of ethnicity or personal beliefs. And our society would not be subjected to the real fears of being destabilized by violence and the arrogance of those who have vowed to destroy and submit us.

If only such a thing would be possible....

-KARSHIKHANABAD told FLIPPINHECK - Well enumerated , sir. Nearly all the non-Muslim groups you name come from countries where Muslims exist in sufficient numbers to harass or kill those who don't worship their way.

IRONGAUNTLET said - Oh, he's just one'a those misunderstanders.
Taqiyya says we CAN!

ALWAYSONWATCH said - From the mouth of the enemy.

We can't see we were never warned.

Of course, our leaders aren't paying any mind to the warnings. Yet.

PULSAR said - (quoting) "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election.'"

and we will accuse those unarmed fools who stand in our way with blasemy and then we will torch their houses and kill them to prove we mean it.

RRWEST said - When will the ignorant masses here and abroad understand that Islam's LEADERS are primarily responsible for the rabid anti-democracy movement that Islam regularly spews out?

That makes it a political system thinly disguised as a religion.

No other religion is as unable to live within democracies as Islam is. No other religion condemns to death anyone who deviates from the laws proscribing purity at all costs. And no other religion executes those who leave it simply for leaving it.

Its totalitarianism at its finest.

Keep the people ignorant of the rest of the world and ill-educated. Spread lies and rumours about those who are not like you. Enact swift, brutal and public punishments for those who oppose you. Finally, spread outward by using the sword, IEDs and whatever else comes to hand for the betterment of the leaders.

Does this sound like a religion to you?

I should hope not.

May the west, truth, justice, equality and democracy prevail.

BIGGERSHOVEL said - "Is there anyone out there who STILL believes that Islam is a religion at all? (never mind a religion of peace).

Here we have an open and shut case that Islam is not a religion at all but rather a ghoulish totalitarian political institution built on the vilest of human instincts, using religious trappings as a facade to disguise itself to outsiders. In short, Islam uses al-lah as a beard in its conquest to enslave humanity.

Islam doctrine is nothing more than the enslavement, rape, and slaughter of the human soul, mind and body.

There is NOTHING which is not antithetical to Islam."

END of my record of the original comments thread for this article - dda.