Mom and Dad
Rifqa Bary says: "And I had a laptop and he took that laptop and waved it in the air and he was about to beat me with it, and he said, 'If you have this Jesus in your heart, you’re dead to me. You’re not my daughter.' And I refused to speak but he said, 'I will kill you. Tell me the truth.' In these words, bad words, cuss words. So I knew that I had to get away."
Her father says: "Whether she is Christian or whatever religion she adopts, that's O.K. Basically, we want our daughter back."
So it's her word against his. Will Mohamed Bary murder his daughter, or bring about her death? Of course there is no way of knowing. But we do know some things:
1. Mohamed Bary and his wife, pictured above, appear to be devout, observant Muslims -- Mrs. Bary, after all, has her head covered, indicating that they respect at least some, if not all, Islamic laws.
2. Apostasy is a capital crime according to all the Islamic schools of jurisprudence, so that it is not unreasonable to believe that devout Muslims would object to the conversion to Christianity of their daughter, and desire her death.
3. Other Muslim fathers, as Pamela points out here, have appeared to be credible, gentle fellows as they lured their wayward daughters back home -- after they had run away in fear for their lives. And then once they were back home, they murdered them.
In light of those facts, the court would be foolish in the extreme, when it convenes again on August 21, to expose Rifqa Bary to risk. There is no doubt that this would not be done in other child welfare cases -- any reasonable suspicion that the child could be in physical danger is acted upon immediately, and the child removed from the home. For what conceivable reason should this case be different?
And the answer, of course, is Islamophobophobia -- the fear of appearing to be "Islamophobic." For that, Rifqa Bary could be sent to her death.
"Father of Muslim teen who converted and fled to Florida: I did not threaten my daughter," by Rene Stutzman and Amy L. Edwards for the Orlando Sentinel, August 13 (thanks to all who sent this in):
The father of an Ohio teenager who ran away to Florida, saying she was afraid her father would kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity, on Thursday said he loves his daughter and wants her to come home."Whether she is Christian or whatever religion she adopts, that's O.K," said Mohamed Bary. "Basically, we want our daughter back."
Fathima Rifqa Bary, who turned 17 this week, is currently in foster care. An Orlando judge on Monday ordered her placed with the Florida Department of Children & Families until social workers can figure out where she belongs and if her home in Columbus, Ohio, is safe.
Another hearing is set for Aug. 21....
But her father on Thursday said he never threatened to kill his daughter.
She had a falling out with her mother the night before she disappeared, he said. He was out of town.
Rifqa had gone out without permission, was gone more than three hours, and when she came home, her mother scolded her and told her that because of her behavior, the whole family might have to return to their native Sri Lanka, Mohamed Bary said.
His wife was upset and there were no plans to leave the U.S., Mohamed Bary said, but that apparently frightened his daughter.
His family, Mohamed Bary said, was a normal one. They attended mosque as a family from time to time, he said.
His daughter was an excellent student, a cheerleader in a prestigious school in Columbus who got A's and B's. She wanted to go to college and become a nurse, he said.
"Basically, the last two months, her behavior has changed a lot," he said. "She won't talk to us much."
She began to study the Bible and Christianity, he said. When he discovered that, he encouraged her to study Islam, he said. After that, he said he told her, "You can study whatever you want and decide what is good for you."
The Barys' court-appointed Orlando attorney, Craig McCarthy, Thursday said the girl's parents "didn't do or say anything that would give her a reasonable fear that her dad was going to kill her."
McCarthy also said the girl didn't tell anyone she was frightened while living at home. They reported her missing immediately and didn't know her whereabouts for weeks.
That was a terrible stretch of time, her father said.
Sgt. Jerry Cupp, who heads the missing-persons unit at the Columbus Police Department, said he does not think the girl's father is a threat.
Cupp said the family left Sri Lanka a decade ago so their daughter could be treated for blindness in her right eye.
"All I'm picking up is love for his daughter and he wants her to be safe," he said....
Who here believes him?
I don't believe Mohamed Bary for second! If she is returned to her family against her will by court order, we'll be reading about her death by the end of the year.
No bets, please.
I wonder which mosque they attend?
And is it mentioned in the Mapping Sharia project?
It is difficult to be able to read facial expressions & body language but there are experts who can do it. Whatever, my prayers are with Rifqa and the pastor!
the mother cannot be trusted to provide her daughter any help, should the court decide she be returned to the family.
Please note the character assassination and libels being spread about this young girl -- how she'd been seeking 'multiple partners' and sex with older men and using drugs etc -- alleged by the Pakistan Daily:
http://news.google.com.au/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Rifqa%20Bary&sa=N&tab=wn&um=1
Sorry guys
Wrong link posted above. Note how she was 'kidnapped' by the pastor - a nice Islamic touch! Here's the correct one:
http://www.daily.pk/pregnant-minor-lanka-girl-kidnapped-by-ohio-christian-church-8945/
Sorry guys
Wrong link posted above. Note how she was 'kidnapped' by the pastor - a nice Islamic touch! Here's the correct one:
http://www.daily.pk/pregnant-minor-lanka-girl-kidnapped-by-ohio-christian-church-8945/
and sorry for the multiples... I'd forgotten the long delay thing with the new old system!
If Mohammed Bary married our President in Massachusetts, the latter would be "Barry Bary".
So this child is surrounded on one side by ice-hearted uncomprehending "social workers" and on the other by her menacing mohammedan parents and their indifferent mohammedan friends.
She is truly in danger.
When I was young the passion of the left and the style of the time was to support 17 year olds to leave home over whether or not they had to cut and comb their hair, or wear jeans or do their homework.
But in today's Orwellian world a child who probably really is in danger of her life will probably be captured and kidnapped by the authorities and delivered into the hands of misery and spiritual death, if not actual physical torture and outright murder.
This was not the development I was hoping to witness in my life.
I hope the Christian underground is strong and well organized. It might well become more important with time.
To think that this is America!
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The threat to move back to Sri Lanka is real, of course. Where else to be able to do the terrible obligation of killing one's daughter while getting the minimum punishment possible?
She is in serious and dire danger.
The Four Schools of Sunni Jurisprudence say that the girl, as an apostate, should be killed.
So, until Islam reforms this murderous code from its brutal teachings, the kid needs to be kept in protective custody against the threat of homicidal Mohammadan intolerance.
Winoceros- they might be able to conceal the murder better, in Sri Lanka. But Sri Lanka is not a Muslim country.
In 2001, according to my (Christian) sourcebook, the 'state religion' of Sri Lanka was Buddhism, the religion of the majority ethnos, the Sinhalese.
About 72 % of the population was Buddhist, 12 % Hindu (Tamil), 8 % Muslim (the Arab-derived 'Moors' and some Tamil and Malay), 7 % Christian (mostly among the Eurasian 'Burgher' community), and the remaining 1 % comprised Sikh, Bahaii and Non-Religious.
The CIA factbook, relying on the 2001 census (which my other source, published in 2001, might not have been able to use), states as follows: Buddhist 69.1%, Muslim 7.6%, Hindu 7.1%, Christian 6.2%, unspecified 10% (2001 census provisional data).
So the figures differ a bit, varying most for the 'unspecified' or 'other' category, but not enough to alter the overall picture: the vast majority of Sri Lankans are Buddhists, Buddhism is the officially recognised state religion, and the Muslim percentage of the population is relatively small.
This is from the article that Jew Cat, above, notes:
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church
Written by David Miller Smith World Aug 15, 2009
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church–brainwashed against parents–forcibly converted
A very disconcerting video is being shown by the Christan church. A minor Sri Lankan girl belonging to well to do parents has been kidnapped by a church in Ohio and being kept away from the legal guardians and parents of the girl. The family maintains that the girls was into drugs, promiscuous behaviour and raunchy messages on facebook. She was discussing sex with multiple older married men. When the parents tried to control her behaviour she refused to do so. On her return to the home she conjured up a story of conversion to Christianity. There are serious accusations against the church on holding a minor girl in custody against the will of her guardians and parents. How many more girls will the church kidnap?
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Appalling calumny, especially given the Muslim propensity of kidnapping and forcibly converting non-Muslim girls--often Christians.
This is from the article that Jew Cat, above, notes:
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church
Written by David Miller Smith World Aug 15, 2009
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church–brainwashed against parents–forcibly converted
A very disconcerting video is being shown by the Christan church. A minor Sri Lankan girl belonging to well to do parents has been kidnapped by a church in Ohio and being kept away from the legal guardians and parents of the girl. The family maintains that the girls was into drugs, promiscuous behaviour and raunchy messages on facebook. She was discussing sex with multiple older married men. When the parents tried to control her behaviour she refused to do so. On her return to the home she conjured up a story of conversion to Christianity. There are serious accusations against the church on holding a minor girl in custody against the will of her guardians and parents. How many more girls will the church kidnap?
......................
Appalling calumny, especially given the Muslim propensity of kidnapping and forcibly converting non-Muslim girls--often Christians.
This is from the article that Jew Cat, above, notes:
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church
Written by David Miller Smith World Aug 15, 2009
Pregnant Minor Lanka (sic) girl kidnapped by Ohio Christian Church–brainwashed against parents–forcibly converted
A very disconcerting video is being shown by the Christan church. A minor Sri Lankan girl belonging to well to do parents has been kidnapped by a church in Ohio and being kept away from the legal guardians and parents of the girl. The family maintains that the girls was into drugs, promiscuous behaviour and raunchy messages on facebook. She was discussing sex with multiple older married men. When the parents tried to control her behaviour she refused to do so. On her return to the home she conjured up a story of conversion to Christianity. There are serious accusations against the church on holding a minor girl in custody against the will of her guardians and parents. How many more girls will the church kidnap?
......................
Appalling calumny, especially given the Muslim propensity of kidnapping and forcibly converting non-Muslim girls--often Christians.
From the quoted article above: "well to do parents...", then from the Orlando Sentinel
"The Barys' court-appointed Orlando attorney, Craig McCarthy".
Seems as we taxpayers are funding both sides of the argument. I'm fine with the state's lawyers handling the girls side, but why for this 'Well to do man's attorney? He's laughing up his sleeve because he already know it's going to go. The Columbus PD is already rolling over.
Think I missed a ' in there someplace.
This young lady should be emancipated by the court. Then her parents have no say. It appears she has a good support system in place.
"Sgt. Jerry Cupp, who heads the missing-persons unit at the Columbus Police Department, said he does not think the girl's father is a threat."
Apparently Sgt. Jerry Cupp doesn't know a darn thing about Islam or Muslims...
Amazingly troll-less thread. Maybe now that Robert's back in business and the comments part hasn't been completely destroyed, they don't want to play anymore? Abdullah Mike and Ibby Hooper must be crying in their beer.