"War is Deceit" - Muhammad
"Afghanistan's 'weekend jihadis'," by Kate Clark for BBC News, September 11 (thanks to Alan):
In the villages of Afghanistan, many young men are working for the government during the week, but fighting for the Taliban at weekends.
"We don't get paid," says Gul Mohammad.
"It's voluntary - all for the sake of God. We even buy fuel for the operations ourselves. And our own ammunition and bullets."
"Poverty causes terrorism," except when it doesn't:
Gul Mohammad (his name changed to protect his identity) is not what you might think of as a typical Taliban fighter.
He is educated, in his 20s, married with children and, during the week, he works in a government office.
"I'm a civil servant - that's how I support my family, with my salary and by growing wheat, here in the village.
"At the same time, I work for the Islamic Emirate (the name the Taliban use for their regime in Afghanistan). I've been fighting for the Taliban for about two years." [...]
The phenomenon of weekend jihadis raises many questions - not just about how to maintain the security of Kabul and provincial capitals, but also how the insurgency will reach an end.
Most Taliban fighters in his area are young men, says Mohsin (name changed to protect identity), who is also from the district of Wardak. He says many are civil servants.
"People working in Kabul or the provincial capital, who have land and families in the villages, need to show they support the Taliban.
"They provide manpower or contribute in other ways like giving top-up cards for mobile phones or financial assistance. They need to be able to keep commuting from village to work."
According to Mohsin, it is not just individuals who split their loyalties in order to survive what feels like a civil war.
"It's a secret in the village - there are people who are seniors in the Taliban and their brothers are seniors in the Afghan administration - they are aware of each others' activities and their involvement, and this is accepted as a matter of fact."...
We have young American men and women dying in that dump, while everyone plays the US for a fool.
Maybe it is time to pull out the troops and "pave Paradise and put up a parking lot"
We have young American men and women dying in that dump, while everyone plays the US for a fool.
Maybe it is time to pull out the troops and "pave Paradise and put up a parking lot"
We have young American men and women dying in that dump, while everyone plays the US for a fool.
Maybe it is time to pull out the troops and "pave Paradise and put up a parking lot"
This is so unacceptable and really broadens who the military targets are, don't you think? I just don't understand (venting here). Do you think Jefferson was trying to figure out which were the "nice" Barbary pirates, while trying to get at the bad ones?
I can see people I love, working to make the locals safe and build bridges and help with water or agricultural concerns (the new big strategy), walking into the local ag office and trying to work with the bureaucrat sitting in front of him, telling all about how they'll help, how they'll deploy the resources, what the resources are, where they will be sleeping, how to get in touch with them, their names, the number of men they're bringing to do the job, and then have this enemy of the highest order run off and do his weekend jihad and tell the Taliban everything, shooting bullets out the back of his Nissan as he goes.
Here it goes: we either destroy, and I mean destroy into the Stone Age, agressive Islamic countries or wall them off. And I mean destroy. They're not hurting me if they're herding goats. We should also get as many young children out of there as we can and give them Western lives.
You can flame me for this if you like, but I've had it with the duplicity and the inability to understand evil must be destroyed.
Infidel jobs are temporary. The Jihad is eternal.
If these bastards are killing our troops, isn't it time for some housecleaning ?
God bless America.
These blokes are die-hard perverts. Islam is the religion not only of sexual but also of political perversion.
From this article: "He is educated, in his 20s, married with children and, during the week, he works in a government office."
My observation obviously holds for both the illiterate and the educated. Islam is the plague of modern times. We have to fight until our final breath.
I suspect that some of this is coerced, as a part of the ongoing protection racket called Islam. In this variation of the racket, some who can't spare the cash are allowed to pay in kind, by joining the racketeers part -time.
I'm not surprised by this. Followers of Allah can't help but be as deceitful as Allah, after all one of Allah's names is "The Greatest Deceiver" (Watch this http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c5f_1219151677).
Jihad is the primary duty of every Muslim. Al-Quaeda, the Taleban, etc., etc., etc., are merely franchises where men can go for youthful comradery and to get resources to fulfill their critical jihad obligation. Those frachises give young Muslim men opportunities to score points with Allah, perhaps even earning them tickets directly to heaven. So these "violent jihad" organizations are sort of evil versions of Possum Lodge, the Lions Club, or, perhaps, the National Guard.
Al-Qaeda, the Taleban, etc., are not at war with us--Islam is. If we really want to win in any meaningful sense, we must discredit and defeat that ideology. So far, it seems that, in most ways, we are not even trying to do this.
Our military and economic assistance programs are unconsicously trying to discredit at least one part of Islamic ideology--to demonstrate through good deeds that infidels are really not the Muslims' enemy--not really bad guys at all.
But if you know Islamic ideology, you know that Mohammed thought of that counter strategy, and made sure his war manual--the Koran--teaches Muslims that any such efforts are deceitful trickery--mere ploys to lure Muslims away from their faith. The Koran teaches that the aid they get is rightful jizya, payments owed to the Muslims due to their superior faith, not something they should ever be grateful for.
We should make every effort to really lure Muslims away from their wretched "faith." We need to tell the Muslims the truth. They are victims, all right--not of infidel exploitation but of Islam, a perverted cult (not a religion) devised by a 7th century pirate to satisfy his own lusts for sex and power. Islam is death, destruction, and despair. When Muslims look all around them, they must see that this is clearly true, and they must understand why.
Quarantine the Islamic world.
"We don't get paid," says Gul Mohammad.
"It's voluntary - all for the sake of God. We even buy fuel for the operations ourselves. And our own ammunition and bullets."
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And what funds do they use to buy fuel and ammunition for the Taliban? Why, their government paychecks, of course. And who supplies most of the funds for those nice government jobs? Why, the filthy kufr, especially the Americans.
Once again, we are *funding our enemies*.
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According to Mohsin, it is not just individuals who split their loyalties in order to survive what feels like a civil war.
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Are some of these men doing this just to "survive what feels like a civil war"? Sure. The Taliban is horrifically violent, and anyone who works with the 'Infidels' and 'apostates' is a potential target.
But far more common, I imagine, is the belief that Jihad is, as Gul Mohammad said, "all for the sake of God"--whereas working for the government is just a perk.
"We should also get as many young children out of there as we can and give them Western lives."
Now why did you have to go and ruin an otherwise fine post with creeping sentimentalism? Did we anxiously make sure to spirit out Japanese children from Japan before we bombed the sake out of them? Were we any less moral, less virtuous, less American, in the 1940s than we are now? (Rather the contrary, I'd say.) No, until we can recover our lost wits and initiate Operation FE (think of the F word followed by a "t" word whose first two letters are, in common parlance, often replaced by an apostrophe, in this case denoting "the Other"), we will be putting our West in danger to this unprecedented threat of a global revival of Islam increasingly armed with modern technology.
No, no, you misunderstand. I don't mean to save them from war. I mean in more of a Rifqa Bary sense...that children who have no ideology or blemish in the world could have a valuable existence and a worthy life, possibly, by being exposed to the West.
You're right. It's both creepy[sic] and sentimental. It sounds like kidnapping.
I've got four kids. Hard to help myself.
I would turn these countries into rubble for their agression against America and her allies, and I would go around rescuing orphans and giving them to Westerners who were looking to adopt. We need to up the Western population growth.
I'm with Winoceros here.
Take off the kid gloves and stop trying to win the hearts and minds of people who are indoctrinated.
Wall them off metaphorically with science and trade bans. Refuse them Western medical and educational assistance. No more ME student visas.
If you choose to be moslem live in a country that supports your ideology. Leave the civilized, Democratized West.
An innocent civilian Monday through Friday, A fighter on the weekend. Does this mean we can only kill the Enemy on weekends?
Obama had accused Bush of neglecting the War in Afghanistan. After the Obama Surge, we have record NATO casualties. The Taliban control 80% of the country in 2009, compared with 48% in 2007!
How's that Hope and Change working for you?
How did the level of comfort,for these cultists,
rise to the point where,they feel comfortable talking to a reporter about their traitorous activities?
The bBC should be ashamed for not turning this guy in.
Oh wait,I forgot,this guy is is a family man and tiller of the earth just trying to get by.
Of course,"religious" motivation is barely addressed.
"...all for the sake of God...."
Hardly worth mentioning,really.