Agenda-driven pseudo-journalist smears threatened girl and her defenders

Reporting on Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller's presence in the courtroom by describing them as "anti-mahoundianism bloggers" is just about the kind of shameless dishonesty everyone would expect from mahound-o-philes working for mainstream media outlets, hell-bent as usual on deceiving the general and mostly ignorant public about the supremacist, anti-human-rights, anti-science, anti-homosexual, anti-arts, anti-democratic, anti-skeptical-inquiry, anti-critical-thinking, intolerant, misogynistic, murderous, cowardly and genocidal nature of mahound-worshipping and its followers' agenda in the civilized world (which they would so love to "opensewerize" in order to make it look as sharia-paradisaical as Yemen, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Porkistan.) And, as Robert has pointed out, little does this moron Kruse seem to care about what Ms. Bary's ultimate fate will be. What matters to him is to get something out there that Daily-Kos readers and CAIR members will approve of, in perfect compliance with the clichés of the leftarded playbook of anti-Western narrative. Even if that eventually ends up in a (dis)honor crime of which she will have been a victim.

That "crusader" nonsense from the mahoundian tapeworm at the end of the article, (as though there had been any Crusades since the end of the 13th Century) couldn't have been a more appropriate way to finish off those moronic leftarded ramblings, in the same spirit that this whole disgraceful piece was concocted.

It's rather sick that this supposedly liberal reporter should do his utmost to verbally "hussy up" this girl, in order to protect PC/MC ideas about Islam.

This is so reminiscent of when rape victims would be queried on the clothes they were wearing, and their private (consensual) sexual history. Wasn't it liberals that fought for the END of this kind of crap?

Doesn't this idiot have any idea what he's doing?

Robert Spencer, who writes on a blog called Jihad Watch, told reporters Islam was here to take over America.

Not only Robert Spencer, but Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad, and almost every other Muslim figure on the public stage. Of course Michael Kruse would have us believe that Mr. Spencer is some conspiracy crank, and have us ignore the open and admitted agenda of Islam.

Muslim businessman Mohammad Lutfi of Orlando yelled that Trento, Spencer and Geller were "conservative, right-wing militants" and "crusaders."

So first we had Lutfi lying about the hadith of Muhammad ordering the execution of apostates, know he is implying that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are advocates of aggression and violence. As usual, these Islamic apologists demonstrate that they are completely without morals, nor do they have any regard for the truth or justice.

On the other hand, I would encourage Mr. Lutfi to read Robert Spencer's excellent book "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades", before he goes around calling people crusaders. If he had any knowledge of medieval history he'd know that the crusaders were responding to a couple centuries of Muslim aggression and imperialism against Eastern Christians. The Levant (Syria, Lebanon, and Israel) was all once Christian land, until the Muslims took it by force. So in the sense that the crusaders sought to protect and defend Jerusalem and other holy sites from Muslim aggression, I would agree that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are modern crusaders seeking to save the West from Islamic aggression.

Spirit Wolf:

"Doesn't this idiot have any idea what he's doing?"

No, I am quite sure he has no clue whatsoever.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

"Doesn't this idiot have any idea what he's doing?" --
Posted by: Spirit Wolf @ September 4, 2009 1:01 PM

If the answer is yes, he knows what he is doing, hen he needs to be condemned as being an agent of evil. If the answer is no, he doesn't know what he is doing, then he is unqualified to write about the subject and should be fired from the paper.

Either way, he is indeed, an idiot.

"Doesn't this idiot have any idea what he's doing?" --
Posted by: Spirit Wolf @ September 4, 2009 1:01 PM

If the answer is yes, he knows what he is doing, then he needs to be condemned as being an agent of evil. If the answer is no, he doesn't know what he is doing, then he is unqualified to write about the subject and should be fired from the paper.

Either way, he is indeed, an idiot.

Mr Spencer, What do you think about the report in the JPost about the 50000 muslems marching on capital hill this month? With the slogan
"Our time has come".
Has this bee verified by any other American "news"
(I use the term loosely)

As the dhimmi turns.........

Yes, idiots. Useful idiots.

Michael Kruse and Mohammad Lutfi are a couple of tools for the cause.

Michael Kruse, who no one has ever heard of, has found a way to get his fifteen minutes of fame a little early. Perhaps he dreams of a Pulitzer Prize and his name up in lights. Who cares if a little girl has to die for him to get it. It will be her just desserts you see, because she is a Christian, someone for whom little Mikey can barely withhold his contempt. Having lost the last shreds of any Christian upbringing that might have affected his conscience, actions or motives before he sold his soul to become a journalist, Michael is now free to destroy others at will, especially when he has the agreement of so many fellow travelers who are willing to assist him.

Mohammad Lufti was merely doing what all CAIR operatives do when some ugly aspect of Islam has yet again been exposed to the light; damage control. With all the damage control those guys have to do it's a wonder they ever get anything else done.

It is noteworthy that Lufti came so unglued when Robert pointed out the obvious. Last year in June at the protest against the Islamic Saudi Academy on Rt. 1 in Alexandria, VA, I noticed two similar displays of this same sort of temper tantrum from Muslims. The first one was from a parent who was waiting at the light on the side of the school to turn onto Rt. 1. He was yelling at us and telling us that what we were doing was wrong, that it was wrong for us to hold up signs silently and protest against the violent passages that are in the Qu'ran and in the ISA textbooks because the children might see us. HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS YELLING. We weren't. When I confronted him about the verses in the textbooks that said Christians and Jews are pigs and monkeys, he really went nuts before the light changed and he was forced to drive away. The second incident was when a young lady in her twenties, who was driving, with her be-hijabbed mom smiling in the front seat next to her, slowed down and yelled at those of us who were standing on the grass that paralleled Rt. 1. She dropped the F-bomb repeatedly and was in extreme distress that we were pointing out to passersby that the school was teaching hatred, that this was a school that nurtured future terrorists and that equality for others could not be found here.

If Muslims are so sure that there is no violence in their Qu'ran then why do they go apoplectic every time someone points to one of those passages that shows there is? Could it be that Muslims are deliberately lying to the rest of us, in order to hide what their real agenda is about? Could it be that they wish to take over the world, impose Islam on the rest of us and have no compunction about lying to us to achieve their aim? We who gather here are see patterns that include:

1) kidnapping, rape and forced conversions of Egyptian Christian girls by Muslim men,

2) the murder of Muslim girls by their Muslim fathers/brothers/uncles in France,

3) the murder of Muslim girls by their Muslim fathers/brothers/uncles in England,

4) the murder of Muslim girls by their Muslim fathers/brothers/uncles in Germany,

5) the murder of Muslim girls by their Muslim fathers/brothers/uncles in the
United States

6) the murder of Muslim girls by their Muslim fathers/brothers/uncles in Canada.

Since we don't hold murdering our womenfolk in high esteem when it comes to finding solutions to problems that men are having, we have to take a stand for our laws and our way of life and say, no, you bad man, you will not kill your daughter just because she embarrassed you, (especially when your embarrassment comes from a special brand of insecurity known as Islam.) No you bad man, we will not allow you to lie about Islam, our laws or little girls, in order to get them killed.

What does a reader gather from Michael Kruse's article, probably no more than an average citizen might if showing some interest in Rifqa Bary's case.

The least this (no knowledge about Islam)reporter could do is show some respect for people who are there and who have a keen understanding of the workings of Islam; but no to much effort for him to do some research instead of going with his hastily gathered notes so he could make the next days copy; what a waste of good journalism.

If Kruse is a truly trained professional reporter from the St.Petersburg Times than it is incumbent upon him to take a serious look at both sides of the cases arguments rather than just going with his narrow perceptions of the people involved. It is the key to a good reporter of which Michael Kruse's clearly demonstrated he is not.

The unfortunate problem here is that authorities are easily taken in by Muslims who feel it is their duty to mislead and deceive infidels( taquiya & kitman).

Has child services sat down with experts that have a clear understanding of the violent history of those Muslims who are branded as apostates? More than likely not, many of these agencies rage with incompetence like giant bureacracies.

Look at the case in Antioch,California; 18 years this young girl was kept by a rapist, pedophile and the parole agents had the right to search his property anytime they wished without a warrant and there was continuous rumblings from neighbors about children in the back yard that no one ever saw come out or go to school and yet the authorities did nothing for 18 years when they had the right to.

Spirit Wolf, you said it.

So, the Ohio pastor is Jamal Jivanjee? Sounds like some South Asian immigrant who just might have an inside track on what awaits apostates from Islam.

I'm tempted to write the _Sentinel_ and let them know what I think of Kruse.

Woops! St. Petersburg Times!

Said Robert, "But by phrasing his report this way, as I am sure Kruse was aware, he made me sound like a nut, whereas if he had noted that it was a quote from the cofounder of CAIR, indicating that there are Muslims in America who say this sort of thing, his story would have taken on a substantially different cast."

The genius, if you will, of Islam is that when one accurately details the viciously hateful supremacist doctrines, maalefic intentions, and violent rapacious history of this thoroughly totalitarian belief system, he is bound to come off as some kind of bigoted lunatic. Islamic ideology is so wretchedly intolerant, and itself so contemptibly bigoted, that the uninformed listener cannot accept that this correctly horrific description could ever possibly be true. This is the enlightened 21st century, after all! As a consequence, all the Islamic apologist and taqiyya master has to do is yell "bigot!" and he is instantly believed.

So the Islamic attacker on our civiliation has to invest almost zero intellectual energy to advance the cause, while the Western defender of freedom has to strive mightily to produce encyclopedias of careful research to counter that "charge" of bigotry. By the time our hero gets done, the listener has either fallen asleep from AD-induced boredom or otherwise gone catatonic.

This unbalanced rhetorical energy situation, then, is the verbal equivalent of asymmetric warfare. Our clueless leaders, and our equally clueless media reporters, need to wise up to this aggressive Islamic tactic.

One would expect this of the Bary family and their jihadist supporters at the Noor mosque, but these are the actions of the *American press*.

The St. Petersburg Times is a very left-wing paper, but I am still shocked by the Kruse article, and its implying that Rifqa Bary's supporters are "Islamophobic" nuts, and that Rifqa herself is some sort of slut.

Useful idiots, indeed. I cannot imagine that Kruse and his ilk truly understand what it is they are supporting. I suppose he just thinks he's sticking it to "Christian fundamentalists".

The "Agenda-Driven Life." Sounds like a potential best-seller. What about it?

Muslim businessman Mohammad Lutfi of Orlando yelled that Trento, Spencer and Geller were "conservative, right-wing militants" and "crusaders."

Crusaders?

Unfortunately for Kruse, Pamela was in the courtroom, in the front row, just a few feet away from Rifqa. She reports: "Kruse is a liar. I was sitting in the first row. I never took my eyes off her. She never blew a kiss to anyone.

Aha! Kruse is a bald-faced liar.

The moronic deprecation of Robert Spencer, a bestselling author, is surreal. Does Kruse think that nobody will call his hand on that?

The supremacist statement of Omar Ahmad, about Islam becoming the dominant religion in America, is consistent with the Islamic texts and with mainstream Muslim opinion today. While this goal may be wildly improbable, the relevant question in this case is whether the Muslims with whom Rifqa Bary is likely to come into contact hold such extremist views.

According to the World Public Opinion surveys, most Muslims (71%) in the largest Muslim countries want "a strict application" of sharia law in every Muslim country or society. More recent surveys by PEW indicate that roughly 80% of Pakistanis think apostates should be put to death. In the West, about one third of Muslims in the U.K. want sharia law to be imposed fully and want apostates to be put to death. The majority of Muslims in the U.K. want criminal blasphemy penalties to be imposed on those who criticize Islam publicly. To my knowledge, there are no comparable data available for American Muslims, but even if only 5% of them think Rifqa ought to face death for apostasy, that's still too large a risk. Whether she is in Ohio or Florida, now that her apostasy has been made public, Rifqa is in danger.

The goal of Islam becoming the dominant religion of the whole world is stated repeatedly in the Quran, Hadith, Sira, and is mentioned in Islamic law. These statements are in the context of military jihad, but also in the more general context of spreading Islam to all humankind (Quran 34:28).

The friend and mentor of Sultan (of the Noor center in Ohio), Yusuf al-Qaradawi, writes:

"1. In his Sahih, Imam Muslim recorded that Thawban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) as saying: “Almighty Allah has gathered the earth for me so that I could see all its corners. My nation will rule over all that which Almighty Allah has gathered for me.”
2. Ibn Hibban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “This matter (i.e. Islam) will spread to cover all areas where there is night and day. Allah will never leave a house in a rural area or in urban community without its people being Muslims. Honor is for those who embrace it (i.e. Islam) while disbelievers are doomed to disgrace and humiliation.”
This hadith, along with many others, give us glad tidings that the patch of the Muslim state will expand to cover the whole earth and that the strength of this state will grow and become obvious to all. This also denotes good news for the long-cherished hope of revival of Muslims’ unity and rebirth of Islamic Caliphate."

-End of Quote.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545004

Qaradawi says the penalty for apostasy is, and should be, death.

The Reliance of the Traveller also states that...
"O-8.7: Acts that Entail Leaving Islam
[…]
20- or to deny that Allah intended the Prophet's message (Allah bless him and give him peace) to be the religion followed by the entire world"

Steve Klein said: "Crusaders?"

Many people who support the mussulmen and the mussulmen themselves are guilty of cognitive egocentrism". The mussulman culture and religion also has a zero sum game built into it. When you take these two key characteristics of Islam into consideration, many otherwise incomprehensible acts and actions now become understandable.

In this case, it would seem many of the MSM believe that Islam is just like the Judeo-Christian, only with a more exotic dinner menu with dress-downs for women. As they know that the North American culture would not condone the death of a child if returned to a western-civilisation family, they're blinded by the belief that the Islam-driven culture must be like their own. They could not believe in a culture where truly the life of a [female] child is worth far less than the honour of the family [i.e. the men in the family]. They couldn't imagine that everyone who they talk to from the mosque and the family may not have the same values they have, and this is reinforced by the contempt they both seem to have for traditional Judeo-Christian values and believe that the mussulmen are the victims of western imperialism. With the same messages coming from the family and the mosque: that Rifqa over-reacted after an argument, ran away, and now would be welcomed back by the her father, her brother, the mufti/imam of the father's mosque and the attendees of that mosque, they feel that everyone trying to keep Rifqa in Florida are misguided or malicious.

The zero sum game approach of Islam in matters of 'honour' prevents the family and their mosque from letting Rifqa escape from Islam. All who support her must, in their minds, be demonised, discredited and discounted because if their 'honour' can only be satisfied if the Kufr lose, and the bigger the loss the greater they think they have won due to this zero sum ideology. Rifqa escaping (winning) would be seen as a loss for them; in direct violation of the word of allah: "He who discards his [muslim] religion, kill him." Thus large amounts of money have had to be spent by the musselmen, forcing the Rifqa's side to spend money as well, to try to extract a 'win' even if the actual result is that both sides are worse off as a result.

The mussulmen are also guilty of the cognitive egocentrism when they accuse western civilization of doing things that would be obscene to western sensibilities - because were they in a the same dominant position, it would be something they would do themselves. As a result, their fears are reflected out and turn into a paranoia, where the lack of evidence of wrongdoing on the part of western civilisation itself becomes the proof of a cover-up.

So, since the mussulmen believe that their Jihad against disbelief and the Kufr will continue until Jesus (Issa) comes back and kills or converts all the remaining Kufr at the end of days, then their cultural egocentrism makes them believe that the Kufr have a similar eternal struggle against islam that is a continuation of the Crusades. Like Jihad, they believe the Crusades are an unlimited expansionist programme instead of the reaction to the closing off of the Holy Land to Christians by the mussulmen. The lack of proof becomes the proof in their minds that this Crusade is well hidden and directed by their nemesis: the Jews. And so Robert, because he is such a strong adversary against their Jihad, is called a Jew since in their minds only a Jew could be so obstinate and effective against what they think is the word of allah. And such is this egocentrism that they think that, mistakenly, calling Robert a Jew will shame him with such a terrible [to mussulmen] insult, but in reality I suspect it more amuses Robert than outrages him.

I thank the Richard Landes, Dr Sanity, and others here for their writings on the psychology of Islam that has led to my understanding of the mussulman mind.

I thank the Richard Landes, Dr Sanity, and others here for their writings on the psychology of Islam that has led to my understanding of the mussulman mind.
Posted by: Gharkad

Interesting observations about the muslim psyche. With a name like "Dr. Sanity", how could a psychologist (or psychiatrist) go wrong?

But it is very true that people in Western cultures wrongly assume that Western values are universal, or at least most of them. It is simply inconceivable to them that normal, sane parents would kill their daughter to restore "family honor", and equally inconceivable that a religion would mandate the death penalty for apostates. Such preposterous accusations aren't worthy of consideration, much less debate. End of conversation. The truth about islam is so shocking and unbelievable that when confronted with it, people instinctively recoil and then attack the messenger for maligning a religion.

Useful idiots like Kruse are ubiquitous. They are the champions of minorities and believe that minorities are never wrong because they are oppressed victims. But Kruse has a professional obligation to present facts, not politically correct mantras, assumptions, cliches, and denials. He is a pathetic journalist--- biased, ignorant, arrogant, and unprofessional. How difficult would it be for him to Google "honor killings" and read the gruesome facts? He won't do that because he doesn't want to know the truth about islam; it wouldn't fit his agenda or his twisted, left-wing delusions. He decided long ago which side he is on and he has the perfect forum to advance his ideology.

Gharkad - interesting comment. I think once one works out that Muslims only think in terms of a zero-sum game (i.e. all that matters, all that confers 'honor' is POWER, the ability of the Mohammedan Male/s to dominate- and domineer - over other people, especially women and all non-Muslims..."if I win, you lose, and if you 'win' then that means I've LOST", there is no ability to imagine any kind of win-win outcome) pretty much everything they do becomes comprehensible.

Wow, the guy didn't cover the story the way you like it, so he must be another leftist working for the Muslim takeover. And are all the evidence and reports that don't support your case are all part of the same conspiracy? He called you and Pam bloggers, is that some heinous defamation?

MorrisMinor, calling Mr Spencer and Pamela Geller "bloggers" is the equivalent of saying "Albert Einstein was quite clever" If you don't understand that,well-enough said.

MorrisMinor-

Two questions:

1) Is Rifqa Bary's life in danger?

2) Does it matter?

My my, Florida produces an eratz journalist and Ohio produces an eratz police report. Is this a recipe for disaster. Let's hope, pray, phone and fax like her life depends on it.

Reading through the comments on that article:

"Of course there is no such thing as 'Honor Killing'. The world is a place of sunshine and fluffy bunnies, nobody ever harms another person. We don't really even need police, and Michael Kruse is a real journalist."