I'll be sure to alert Richard

Today's entry from the Hate Mail Bag comes to us with the subject line "Richard Spencer":

I dont care what Robert spencer is talking abt Islam,there are problems in muslim community all over the world,but that is not because of Islam but followers of Islam,who are less literate,still carrying the past baggage of their culture,tribes,plz try to understand,if some one is interested to engage in dialogue,Zakir nayak in India,Israr Ahmed may be contacted.

I can't imagine why Richard Spencer would care one way or the other what this fellow thinks of Robert Spencer, but there it is.

Here we see, clumsily put, the common claim that everything that defenders of human rights find objectionable in the Islamic world is not due to Islam, but due to the lingering influence of pre-Islamic culture -- despite the fact that Islam works to eradicate such remnants with more force and focus than any other belief system, and also despite the fact that many of the specifics in thus regard, such as the degrading of women, polygamy, stoning, jihad against non-Muslims, etc., are rooted in Islamic texts and teachings.

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Be sure to report whatever you hear from "Richard Spencer."

Rhetorical questions:

Did his dog do it?

Maybe was it his baby brother?

How about the "boogey man?"

I always love watching those cop shows where the police see drugs fall out of the subject's clothes while running and he says, "It ain't mine. What'd I do? I didn't do NOTHIN', sir. I ran 'cause I was SCARED."

Another case of the criminal trying to play the part of the victim.

The following suggestion might be a nice feature to have on JW Mr. Spencer, it would not only give us Infidels something to look forward to on Fridays, but would also coincide with TAIF (Thank All*h It's Friday) mosque's hate-fests worldwide.

There are many people who view your site, but don't post - so it would also give them something to look forward to as well.

This Week's Hate Mail and Death Threats

A.
B.
C.
D.

We can vote on the best entry. If it's a slow week regarding hate mail and death threats, you might substitute something else instead.

A quiz would also be nice, encouraging others to think about Islam. Example:

How many verses in the Koran are about Jihad?
A. 3
B. 114
C. 164
D. 2,993

Answer: C
B. Refers to the number of peaceful verses in the Koran made null and void by later-written verses called abrogation. (Koran 2:106)
D. Total killed on 9/11 by pious Muslims (The extremists and radicals are the ones who are peaceful and loving, in direct violation of the Koran).

Finally, PLEASE keep giving us Koran and Hadith citations so that we can not only learn, but also teach.

I was going to say maybe this message to "Richard Spencer" belongs in the Islam Apologist Mail Bag. The message's author cites Zakir Naik, a non-Western apologist and propagandist of Islam who interprets that the penalties for blasphemy are laid out in Quran 5:33.

He recommeded Israr Ahmed and I found this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umsESfsgoKw

He says in an ideal Islamic state, non-Muslims will not be treated as equals and if they demand equality they will be killed. He also explains that in such an ideal Islamic state, opportunities in government leadership will be limited for non-Muslims. I would expect in time this would extend to other areas of public life.

I dare say the ideal Islamic state sounds like an apartheid state.

Is this the Richard Spencer he meant?

Sorry for the dumb comment. That was my first attempt to use html codes to link from text.

Now I must go for a lie down.

Robert, you might want to look up "hate mail" on Wikipedia because it appears you're misusing this term.

It is interesting to note that all across the globe Muslims are attacking Christianity and other religions...These attacks are carried out by "a few misunderstanders of the religion of Islam", yet every single one of them cite their religion Islam and its war manual , the Qur'an as justification for the attacks...

"A few misundertanders"? I think not..and just what are the "non misunderstanders" doing to corral the violent activities of the "few misunderstanders"? nada..nilch..nothing....If they are doing anything they are supporting them ...after all they all study the same Qur'an and all of know just what to do....attack and remove all other religions and replace them with Islam...making the whole world and all its inhabitants subserviant to Islam is the Islamic goal...it is what they study and it is what they are trying to do...and right now attacking everyone and everything in anyway possible is the battle plan...just think about all the "inch by inch" steps the Muslims are doing including prosecuting women who don't dress like Muslims, suing anyone and everyone who refuses to provide Muslim related items such as prayer rooms, footbaths, segregated pool times, mandatory prayer time off during working hours while on the job, lawsuits because people react to the Muslims weird behavior on buses, planes and trains..

The more you study the Islamic ways the better you are able to decipher what a Muslim is saying when he is talking about Islam and what he isn't saying and to decipher what he talking about even when he isn't talking directly and honestly...one thing you will learn is that Muslims are master deceivers and will always try to hide their real feelings while trying to convince you they are peaceful and you have nothing to worry about...

Go to the tower of your Church of the old North Church in your neighborhood and flash two lights...and send the rider to alert everyone...

Maybe this moron suffers from a schizophrenic disorder and projects his multiple personality on Robert.

As for infinity ans human stupidity, I mentioned that one before...

First, they change your name then they change your religion..........

Islam,who are less literate,still carrying the past baggage of their culture,tribes,plz try to understand


Ahadith Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: "During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them."
Pre-Islamic or not, Mohammed is on record condoning all sorts of ignorance.

Ahadith Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 79:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

The Jews brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from among them who had committed illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet said to them, "How do you usually punish the one amongst you who has committed illegal sexual intercourse?" They replied, "We blacken their faces with coaland beat them," He said, "Don't you find the order of Ar-Rajm (i.e. stoning to death) in the Torah?" They replied, "We do not find anything in it." 'Abdullah bin Salam (after hearing this conversation) said to them. "You have told a lie! Bring here the Torah and recite it if you are truthful." (So the Jews brought the Torah). And the religious teacher who was teaching it to them, put his hand over the Verse of Ar-Rajm and started reading what was written above and below the place hidden with his hand, but he did not read the Verse of Ar-Rajm. 'Abdullah bin Salam removed his (i.e. the teacher's) hand from the Verse of Ar-Rajm and said, "What is this?" So when the Jews saw that Verse, they said, "This is the Verse of Ar-Rajm." So the Prophet ordered the two adulterers to be stoned to death, and they were stoned to death near the place where biers used to be placed near the Mosque. I saw her companion (i.e. the adulterer) bowing over her so as to protect her from the stones.

Mohammed's on record supporting Female Genital Mutilation, beating wives, treating women as chattel, lying as as to get close enough to assassinate, supporting those who
would kill to silence criticism and many other 'provable' things.

The question as whether things are holdovers from pre-Islamic culture holds no weight when evaluation current practice and 'atmospherics' from Islamic culture. Islam is a complete and total explanation and way of life, as so often we hear. Well, if that be the case, then Islam condones injustice and evil, objectively stated. Islam condones injustice and evil in its book, in the example of the

A defender of the faith writes:

[...] There are problems in muslim community all over the world,but that is not because ofIslam,who are less literate,still carrying the past baggage of their culture,tribes,plz try to understand [...]


Ahadith Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: "During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them."
Pre-Islamic or not, Mohammed is on record condoning all sorts of ignorance.

Ahadith Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 79:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

The Jews brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from among them who had committed illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet said to them, "How do you usually punish the one amongst you who has committed illegal sexual intercourse?" They replied, "We blacken their faces with coaland beat them," He said, "Don't you find the order of Ar-Rajm (i.e. stoning to death) in the Torah?" They replied, "We do not find anything in it." 'Abdullah bin Salam (after hearing this conversation) said to them. "You have told a lie! Bring here the Torah and recite it if you are truthful." (So the Jews brought the Torah). And the religious teacher who was teaching it to them, put his hand over the Verse of Ar-Rajm and started reading what was written above and below the place hidden with his hand, but he did not read the Verse of Ar-Rajm. 'Abdullah bin Salam removed his (i.e. the teacher's) hand from the Verse of Ar-Rajm and said, "What is this?" So when the Jews saw that Verse, they said, "This is the Verse of Ar-Rajm." So the Prophet ordered the two adulterers to be stoned to death, and they were stoned to death near the place where biers used to be placed near the Mosque. I saw her companion (i.e. the adulterer) bowing over her so as to protect her from the stones.

Mohammed's on record supporting Female Genital Mutilation, beating wives, treating women as chattel, lying as as to get close enough to assassinate, supporting those who
would kill to silence criticism and many other 'provable' things.

The question as whether things are holdovers from pre-Islamic culture holds no weight when evaluation current practice and 'atmospherics' from Islamic culture. Islam is a complete and total explanation and way of life, as so often we hear. Well, if that be the case, then Islam condones injustice and evil, objectively stated. Islam condones injustice and evil in its book, in the example of its promoter and in both historical and current practice around the world.

The email writer asked us to 'plz understand' -- well I think we understand all too well how 'pre Islamic ignorance' should fit into our judgment on the matter.

I just Love the Hate Mail Bag, because it is chock-full of insights we wouldn't otherwise get from commentors. Sorry you receive them, Richard, er, I mean, Robert (oops); but they do serve to expose more of the madness within the Islamic mindset, so please keep them coming.

This particular entry reveals yet another defender of a fractured, broken down and evil religious construct of hate and lunacy -- and why this idiot has chosen to defend it is beyond my comprehension; as his attitude and blindness to the truth only enable more evil, and unnecessary and destructive hatred of Women, Jews, Christians, et al.

According to mohammedanism all evil comes from outsiders, temporal, geographic or doctrinal.

Outsiders ... bad ... wrong.

Doh!

There are problems in muslim community all over the world,but that is not because ofIslam,who are less literate,still carrying the past baggage of their culture,tribes,plz try to understand
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Its like this in every religion. There are Jews who still sacrifice their infants to Moloch, you know. And European Christians! Still throwing sacrificial victims into peat bogs, it's a common problem . . . oh, wait . . .

Jew Lover your ideas are great I hope Mr Spencer looks into it.

I am continually amazed at the illiteracy of those who send such e-mails.

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