This morning's Hate Mail comes from London and continues the theme of yesterday's missive:
Thanks. Through your actions, deceit, spin etc you prove the Quran right.Once again, for the umpteenth time, empty claims of "deceit," no specifics, and equally empty boasts.
Mr. Spencer DOES NOT deceive.
Some posters, myself included, may make mistakes, but we do not deceive.
Any part of the following incorrect?
Talking honestly and critically about Islam can be deadly because Muslims are the noblest of mankind (Koran 3:110), while we are pigs and apes (Koran 2:62-:65, 5:59-:60, 7:166), being the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran 98:6)
A perceived insult by Muslims about Islam, Mohammed, or the Koran requires death. (Koran 33:57-:61)
Leaving Islam also requires death, as both All*h (Koran 2:217, 4:89) and Mohammed
(Bukhari 9:84:57) said.
Since Muslims are forbidden from doubting any part of the Koran (Koran 2:1), we must assume that we cannot be their friends (Koran 5:51) and remain their sworn enemies. (Koran 4:101)
Mohammed was a prophet and the ideal man. (Koran 68:4, 33:21)
Mohammed (51) married his child bride (6). Nubile Aisha wasn't deflowered until 9 when he was 54. (Bukhari 7:62:88)
Beheading is acceptable in Islam (Koran 47:8, 8:12) and in one day, Mohammed helped behead between 600 - 900 helpless captives.
Jew_Lover - CrazyIslam.com
All that is missing from the missive is the line, "So there! Nyaaah!"
AbdullahMikail.... Is that you...?
"Thanks. Through your actions, deceit, spin etc you prove the Quran right. "
Interesting, could actions mean.....exposure?
Deceit....please point out where Mr. Spencer deceived anyone.
Spin....how many ways can you spin Mohamed's words? How many ways can you spin what Muslims say and do in the name of Islam?
The Quran is a poorly written, rambling,vile, repetitive book of hate and political propaganda. What is the Quran right about?????
Indeed Robert, Marisol and Hugh prove the Qur'an 'right'
Full of repetitive appropriated muddles of Jewish and Christian stories, bits of old Bedouin bullshit and crammed with cruelty and sadism.
Let´s see if there any factual assertions in the following D-Day narrative that are incorrect.
American, Canadian, and British military forces launched a violent, deadly assualt into the Normandy area of France, forcing their way into a country where none of their respective civil authorities have any rightful claim to permanent, sovereign independent rule. They caused extensive levels of damage, death, and destruction, as they attempted to shoot on sight every person who appeared to hold German citizenship.
Nope, everything there is accurate. Guess there must not be anything wrong with it, then.
Mikey,
No! This is not Abdullah!
This is his Plastic Surgeon!!
Abdullah is still under the influence of anesthetics, pain killers and other shit he was sniffing all his life.
Once he gains consciousness and the pain in his newly installed prick goes away, he will show up!! ( he is addicted!... ).
Fairuzfan sez:
"American, Canadian, and British military forces launched a violent, deadly assault into the Normandy area of France,..."
I guess he forgot that France had been occupied by a hostile Nazi military machine that had violently launched an unprovoked attack and had fortified the entire coastline with land emplacements and submarines in the sea in preparation for a continued assault upon the free world...Germany had already seized many countries and had Great Britain in its sights. The purpose of the attack was to remove Germany's Nazis from the homeland of France and other occupied countries.
Fairuzfan also sez:
"...forcing their way into a country where none of their respective civil authorities have any rightful claim to permanent, sovereign independent rule...."
I guess he forgot that all independent French sovereign rule and its respective civil authorities had been supplanted by the Nazi SS and that France was an occupied country with no control over the rule of its people...Great Britain, the USA, and Canada and other free people worked hand in hand with the French underground to disrupt the Nazi war machine and to strive to remove the Nazi occupiers in order for the French people to return to its own independant and sovereign rule. Which, by the way, they did..no thanks to the Islamic countries which did not help in removing the Nazi Invaders.
Fairuzfan also sez:
"They caused extensive levels of damage, death, and destruction, as they attempted to shoot on sight every person who appeared to hold German citizenship."
I guess he forgot about about the Nazis who marched into France without provocation who began a campaign of damage , death and destruction to the people of France...the Nazis also began rounding up all Jews, Gypsies, Gays, Handicapped and anyone else they felt as undesirable to send to the Nazi Gas Chambers , which by the way, Muslims encouraged and helped to design..The Nazis routinely rounded up suspected freedom fighters and promptly executed them on sight...
In todays world the Muslims are acting much like the Nazis...they are marching into other countries, causing much damage, death and destruction...They are persecuting Christians, non Muslims, and other undesirables...often killing them on the spot...and the Muslims are complaining that when people decide to fight back they are Anti-Islam...
Like most Muslims Fairuzfans recollection of history is flawed, most likely inspired by insane sermons heard in the Mosques...Apparently he also sees no fault in Islams often violent march into many countries to remove its native Christian and non Muslim natives nor the constant confiscation of all the lands and possessions of these people by the Muslims....
Fairuzfan favors todays invaders...Islam and it's believers and opposes those who resist....
and like most Muslims anything gone wrong in the world, both past and present...is the other guys fault....
Save your breath guys; facts and truth have no effect on the Ummah.
Islam is about power, not truth.
The only way to reach the hearts(or more probably the gut instinct to survive) of the members of the Ummah is through power.
As Churchill said: "the Arab(Muslim) was either at your throat or at your feet"": Islam in a nutshell.
When the Ummah makes its move we need to crush Islam entirely and forever.
God likes to give those who are damned all the rope they need to hang themselves; and so God has provided Islam everything it needs to destroy itself.
You seem a bit obtuse this morning, pulsar, as you missed the whole point of my posting. Yes, there were Nazis. Funny how that got left out. But all the facts are true aren´t they?! Isn´t that what folks on JW here are always saying? Come on, pulsar. Really put on your thinking cap, and you just might figure this one out.
But then you resort to the same old stupidity of telling me that you know my religious beliefs better than I do. Are you capable of realizing how much of a buffoon and feeble-minded clown you sound like when you can´t even begin to cope with the most rudimentary of facts? Do you want to pursue the Beatific Vision or settle for being a JW-inspired knuckle dragger? Seriously: you can do better.
Would you like me to do you one up?
This is what I got earlier today:
Submitted on 2009/09/18 at 2:12am
Why are you guys always hating on the Muslims!! It’s only because you guys think we caused 9-11!! Thats the Arabs, in Saudi Arabia!! Try not to be hating on us, if you keep hating on us like this, then were just gonna get mad. You guys are the reason theres now Terrorist in Pakistan!!! Because you keep thinking we did it, but we didn’t, thats SA
These hate mail writers are so boring, no new ideas, they have no arguments and no sense of humour, they're dull gobshites. When will they ever learn that Robert and all the other intrepid freedom fighters here can't be intimidated?
Dear pulsar you're so right, Mohammedans' recollection of history is flawed, Fairuzzy is no exception. I wouldn't be sitting here, if the Americans and the British hadn't freed Europe from the Nazi plague. But Islam and Nazism, two of a kind.
Sheik yer'mami
BEAUTIFUL ! Give us some more of this stuff ya SHEIK !...
Of course, once again, there are no reasons why a kuffar should become a Muslim.
Except for that sword in the corner.
"no specifics" -- from the hate mailer
What? Spencer is all about specifics concerning what's contained in the Q and the ahadith and the history of Mohamet. You don't have a leg to stand on.
Shiek - that e-mail you got is so pathetic. It's like a second-grader wrote it, but you know it's an adult. So sad what this polygamous ideology has done and is doing to the world.
fairuzfan
as usuall you are quick to point out how everyone here is taking islam and the actions of mo out of context but slow to point out how. shouldnt you concentrate your efforts on showing violent jihadis that they have got it wrong and are giving islam a bad rap then we wouldnt have to waste our time with your god awfull religion
It's so incredible how Muslims can say we "misunderstand" Islam! I mean, what do you think Western Civilization is - chop suey? Comprehending Islam is like a Grad student being given a nursery-school text. I mean, please!!!
If we can comprehend Kierkegaard, Kant, Hume, and Hegel - we can certainly comprehend the rantings of a cave-dwelling illiterate bedouin. We wouldn't even be dealing with any of this c*** if they didn't have the Demographics. The 1400-years-of-polygamy-and child-brides-Demographics are nothing to sneeze at, and must be taken seriously.
Pulsar
Fairuzfan can't hide his bitter disappointment that the Nazis lost the war. You see, that barbarian wants to see a Judenrein world, and the Allied victory in World War II, plus those Israeli victories in 1948, 1967 and 1973 denied him his wish to see Judaism wiped off the planet. Those he calls 'the sons of apes and pigs' secured the existence of Israel by destroying the armies of six invading Muslim nations, and Muslims cannot tolerate being bettered by those they call inferiors, and the infidel has spent the best part of 450 years bettering those Muslims who sought to enslave them. Perhaps Fairuzfan ought to forego those products created by those so-called inferior Jews. This means he could no longer post here thanks to those microchips and the Israeli coding in Windows. He should also forego those vaccines invented by Jews. Instead he should stick to those Muslim inventions like ......
No! This is not Abdullah!
This is his Plastic Surgeon!!
Wrong. Its his brain donor.
How can "actions, deceit and spin" prove anything right?
My mistake, we were talking about Islam.
The troll fairuzfan argues from a perspective that truth is relative and editable. This is a common trick from taqiyya practicing trolls. The argument is comparing apples with oranges.
Like darcy points out we did not fall off the turnip truck yesterday. Your wasting your time and strengthening our ability to see through you BS. Keep it coming troll!
Dear Robert,
This person is trying to make us believe that sites like JihadWatch turn people to Islam.
This is taqiyyah (deception).
Nothing but the truth is within the content of this site.
Everything, quotes-wise, is backed up by references to their beloved book, the Qur'an or (The Idiot's Guide to Being a Islamo-path).
I doubt very much if this person converted herself or that she converted her husband and five friends.
It is possible that she was in love with one of the "devils" and had to convert. Give her time to learn what the true meaning of the "religion of peace" is all about.
I hope she reads this..."Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an." Tabari IX:113
Qur'an 86:13 "Lo this (Qur'an) is a conclusive Word; it is not a thing for amusement. It is no pleasantry. And it is no joke."
Well, concerning the amusement and the joke part, I beg to differ, Muhammad!
"Comprehending Islam is like a Grad student being given a nursery-school text".
Do you mean stuff like this?
Bukhari:V2B21N245 "A person slept in and missed the morning prayer. So the Prophet said, 'Satan urinated in his ears.'"
Bukhari:V4B54N516 "The Prophet said, 'If anyone rouses from sleep and performs ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blow it out thrice because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.'"
Bukhari:V5B58N199 "'Who informed you Prophet about the Jinn [Demons] when they heard the Qur'an?' He said, 'A tree informed me about them.'"
Tabari I:278 "Adam went inside the tree to hide. Eve cut the tree and it bled. Then feather that covered Adam and Eve dropped off. So Allah said, 'Now Eve, as you caused the tree to bleed, you will bleed every new moon, and you, snake, I will cut off your feet and you will walk slithering on your face.'"
Tabari I:267 "And Allah taught Adam all the names as follows: He taught him the name of everything, down to fart and little fart."
And who said Islam wasn't fun?
'Ayatollah Khomeini' Quote
"There is no room for play in Islam...
It is deadly serious about everything."
Of course Mr.Spencer has proven the qu'ran right.He lets it and its adherents speak for themselves.
fairuzfan was attempting to demonstrate a rhetorical tactic, and it seems that most readers here misunderstood his intent. His rhetorical tactic was to present a complex historical event by leaving out certain key contextual details. What he chose to leave in with his presentation was all factual, but with the other key contextual details absent, the larger view his presentation implied is arguably false -- unless, of course, one were a supporter of Hitler's Nazi Imperialism and other evils attendant upon that Imperialism.
fairuzfan's motive in this was to demonstrate how this tactic is done, and then building on that, to supposedly bolster his claim that this is generally how JW presents the problem of Islam, including one major aspect being the origins of Islam as a foundational violent and fanatically religious complex historical event. However, as far as I know, fairuzfan has failed to demonstrate how JW actually exploits this rhetorical tactic in order to present the problem of Islam in such a way that all the details it presents may be factual in and of themselves but the overall presentation purposefully leaves out crucial contextual details that render the view of Islam in its various aspects as presented in the JW way as false. Thus, while fairuzfan's abstract principle is correct as far as it goes, he has failed to show exactly and specifically -- with an actual argument using sufficient evidence -- how JW in fact indulges in that tactic in its presentation of the problem of Islam.
There is a flip side to the coin of this rhetorical tactic fairuzfan has demonstrated. The one side he demonstrated shows how a people or a movement can be vilified through misrepresenting a complex historical event: in fairuzfan's example, the people vilified were the Allies in their D-Day invasion. When the crucial contextual details that were purposefully left out are supplied (as pulsar did, not realizing that fairuzfan had left them out on purpose), that vilification of the Allies cannot be sustained -- unless, again, one were a supporter of Hitler's Nazi Imperialism and other evils attendant upon that Imperialism.
However, the flip side to this is the presentation of a people or a movement in such a way, through the same tactic of leaving out crucial contextual details, not to vilify them, but to exculpate them. Thus, the same example fairuzfan constructed could also be used to exculpate Hitler's movement. And this, in fact, is precisely what Islam apologists do with regard to the various aspects of the problem of Islam, including its origins as a foundational violent and fanatically religious complex historical event. I.e., in presenting Islam's origins, they leave out crucial contextual data that would persuasively undermine their hagiographical exculpation. This also goes for other aspects of Islam the apologists present -- the subsequent expansionist imperialism, the rule of law in various places like Andalus and India, the politico-legal culture itself, etc.
Even to begin to move close to the vicinity of being persuasive, fairuzfan would have to do two things he has not yet done, reflecting the two sides of the coin indicated above:
1) Demonstrate specifically how the JW presentation of the problem of Islam leaves out crucial contextual details that would undermine its vilification of Islam
2) Demonstrate specifically how the presentation by Islam apologists of Islam does not indulge in that same rhetorical tactic of leaving out crucial contextual details in order to whitewash Islam, but rather faithfully presents whatever aspects of Islam are at issue as under the purview of the alleged vilification of Islam through the JW presentation of the problem of Islam.