U.K.: Three found guilty in jihadist plot to bomb airliners

"...security experts immediately introduced restrictions on liquids in hand luggage."

Islam makes another fantastic contribution to Western civilization! We should always remember the countless fabulous gifts, such as this one, that the Relgion of Peace has bestowed upon us lesser beings.

"Sarwar, meanwhile, was described as the plot's "quartermaster", securing bomb ingredients from his home in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire."
-- from the article above

High Wycombe was noted in an articule put up at JW several years ago. It's not about one of the three just sentenced, but about another Muslim, a convert whose pre-Islamic name was Don Steward-Whyte, described by a female neighbor on Hepplewhite Close as "a particularly nice boy." That neighbor was sweetly unaware, as you and I are not (and perhaps she is not any longer) of the effect of Adult-Onset Islam.

Here's that toponymic note:

"High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire is a quiet town 35 minutes from the hectic life of downtown London. Its residents can relax at a cricket match in their white outfits, tend to their roses and never feel the need to rush out onto their lawns in their pyjamas to lock up a forgetful child's bicycle -- which is almost always still there the next day.

About 100,000 people live in this idyllic commuter town, which seems to have preserved many of the more pleasant aspects of old England without ignoring the present. When the British Empire disintegrated, about 15,000 Pakistanis moved to High Wycombe, which would eventually boast one of the island's first ethnic Asian mayors. The town is widely seen as a "successfully integrated community."

But for at least one resident of High Wycombe, Jennifer Baker, the world is no longer what it once seemed. Baker lives at Number 17, Hepplewhite Close. Late in the night of August 10, several police cars stopped in front of a house down the street, Number 31, and dragged a man from a red Nissan Micra, a man Baker says was always a "particularly nice boy."
This particularly nice boy was named Don Stewart-Whyte until six months ago, when he converted to Islam and took the name Abdul Waheed. He and 23 accomplices were accused of having plotted to blow up 12 airliners en route from Britain to the United States. According to Home Secretary John Reid, the authorities had amassed "substantial evidence" against the would-be attackers. This evidence presumably includes intercepted emails and wiretapped phone conversations, but also large sums of money, weapons and bomb-making chemicals. A suitcase containing explosive chemicals was found in woods near High Wycombe on Thursday. Videos featuring the likely martyrs surfaced on Friday, and on the same day authorities in the Pakistani city of Bahawalpur arrested Matiur Rehman, a high-ranking al-Qaida terrorist believed to be behind the thwarted attack."

I posted below that article an additional concluding unscientific -- because literary -- postscript, describing the assocational significance of "High Wycombe" to Americans:

"High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire is a quiet town..."
-- from the article above

High Wycombe has entered the consciousness of Americans through its association with T. S. Eliot, who taught school there. The toponym strikes Americans as delightfully, quintessentially, superabundantly quaintly English, the kind of place that should look like the town of Broadway actually does, but without that disturbing interference of an inapposite, Great-White-Way allusion in its name. Any place-name that begins with a "High" or "Little" will do just fine. Eliot, the son of a St. Louis furrier, later acquired considerable fame as a writer, not least because both he, and his friend Ezra Pound, a village crank, were alive and. given the number of English poets in the line of Hardy -- Edward Thomas and Isaac Rosenberg come at once to mind -- who had died in the Great War, had so little competition. There were few around to see them, much less to raise them. And for a long time no one called their bluff.

[Posted by: Hugh at August 23, 2006 10:50 AM]

Isn't it time to start profiling Muslims ? Even the so called moderates seem to apologise for the radicals.This story is taking up the whole B B C news program.

Isn't it time to start profiling Muslims ? Even the so called moderates seem to apologise for the radicals.This story is taking up the whole B B C news program.

We've had it all wrong for a long time....... They're not a PEACE-loving people. They're a PIECE-loving people.

A piece of a plane here, a piece of a building there, pieces of bodies that way, etc.

Glad I was able to finally clear up this error in our ways.

Cheers !

Kenny Solomon
Locked, loaded, safeties off.

So? IF they ever go to prison, they'll be in for what, maybe six months? After all, no one died, right? They were just having fun, trying to make people nervous.
Islamic "civilization" has made it more economical and less stressful for me to drive a thousand miles in the car rather than fly to my destination. I don't have to worry about anything being stolen from my luggage and I can bring what I want. Even when gas was $4 per gallon it was still a better deal to drive.

Many wi;ll disagree with me but, given the current situation in the UK and USA regarding terrorism since 9/11 and the quasi state of war that exists, these men should be hung and buried wrapped in pig carcasses.

@ unbeliever1,

In my opinion Moderate Muslims should not be considered worth our time. In nazi Germany not all Germans were Jew killing maniacs, but they did not stand up and demand the Holocaust stop. The same situation is happening today. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but I have not seen the massive protests against the mujahadin from our "Moderate" Muslim friends. We should all therefore disregaurd the opinions of the Moderate Muslims and deal with the nature of terror which starts with an "I" and ends in a "Slam".

Just my opinion.

Jeff

High Wycombe is a Red Herring - despite Hugh's eloquent post reflecting on just how 'integrated' British Muslims are into even the least urban spaces.

The Security Services and the police should immediately drop the dhimmi nonsense of "consulting" with 'community leaders' (i.e. tipping-off Muslims) in the terrorist-infested East End of London - and go on the offensive.

The link between this area, Muslims and terrorism is now proven.

As unbeliever1 correctly pointed out, 'profiling' can be defended as evidence-based intelligence gathering, not 'racism'.
No case to answer.

Oh, no. You gotta be kidding me. These guys are Muslim, too? Like so so so many others?

I mean, is it just me or is anyone else beginning to see a pattern here... a trend... a way of thinking and believing?

Hmmm?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804498185&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2009/09/06/colonel-gaddafi-s-controversial-muslim-clerics-head-for-midlands-66331-24615894/

Thank God they were stopped.

We can hope against hope that justice will be served and they live out the rest of their miserable lives in prison being known only as "Shirley", but a more realistic option would be to place bets on how long it takes for them to successfully appeal, either in our courts or the ECHR?
My money's on a week.

In the BBC report it says...

"Why did all these men turn to violence? The reason can be found in their own words, writings and martyrdom videos; a simple and seething anger over British and American foreign policy, and an overwhelming belief that Muslims were its helpless victims."

Ha ha ha - in other words, it's all our fault.

I'm sure this was all just a GREAT BIG MISUNDERSTANDING......after all islam is THE religion of peace.......right.....? right?

............Where is everybody?

on the floor laughing.

A jury convicted ringleader Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 28, of conspiring to activate bombs disguised as drinks.
.................

Not all of those drinks were to be "sealed in ordinary sports drinks bottles"--some were to be secreted in a "baby's milk bottle".

Abdula Ahmed Ali, cited above, and his wife intended to use their infant's bottle to hide a liquid bomb.

This was covered by JW at the time:

Baby bottle 'used as bomb'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012664.php

Jeff,
Have you checked out islam-watch.org? A series examining "the good Muslim" has just begun.

"Islam should rightly be abhorred by all persons of conscience. The 'good Muslim' must decide whether they want to live a lie and go down the dark path of Islam, or make the courageous decision to abandon it entirely and help expose it for what it truly is."

http://www.islam-watch.org/iw-new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161:portrait-of-good-muslims-1&catid=95:saleem&Itemid=58

gravenimage, thanks for that link, I've been trying to track down that story off and on for months, unsuccessfully.

In the link of that JW story, the Federal Police Commissioner of Australia, the reporters note:

Mr Keelty today expressed dismay at the alleged plan to use a child in a suicide mission.

Then Mick Keelty is quoted as saying:

"The phenomena of suicide bombings as a new way of taking part in terror attacks is in itself concerning, but to think or imagine that anybody would use an innocent child to join them is even more disconcerting"...

Then the article goes on to note:

But Mr Keelty was cautious about the state of airport security and brushed aside the question of testing babies' milk.

Quoting Mr Keelty again:

"That's an issue for the regulatory authorities, for the airline operators, you know, we've got to think about a lot of people here, a lot of interests"...

This was a major terrorist plot that British intelligence estimated would have mass-murdered more people than died on 9/11. Thus, the fact that this tactic, using baby formula with an actual baby and two ostensibly loving parents, has only occurred as a real possibility once, is outweighed by two factors: 1) the horrific potential of the attack; and 2) the unusually high degree of fanatical resolve of Muslims that the prevalence of suicide-bombing in general reflects (including other tactics such as using human shields including women and children and using underage and mentally retarded suicide bombers) as well as this grotesquely augmented tactic of baby formula.

Therefore, the rational way to approach airport security (not to mention security in public places in general) would be not to interdict all baby formula, but to introduce Muslim profiling. This would not be perfect, and perhaps some terrorists would slip through the tightened net (including white Muslim converts); but when we are talking about preventing such horrific attacks, why is it not better to minimize the danger? Specifically, the danger can be minimized by forbidding all people who look like Muslims to bring baby formula on planes for their babies -- and if their babies need it, forbid them to fly at all. If, for example, some Hindu Indians protest that they are not Muslims, then do background checks to determine if they are telling the truth, or institute other measures to weed out Muslims pretending to be non-Muslims.

Anyway, we are still light years behind such rationality. Only the deaths of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of our people at the hands of various Muslims will serve to pierce through the complex irrationality by which the West maintains its "tolerance".

It is instructive to compare headlines, and the first line sometimes, between different versions of the same story.

Mr Spencer posted the article from the BBC.

Here is its headline and first line, just to repeat:

Headline: 'Three guilty of airline bomb plot'

Three...what?

Now the first line -
"Three men have been found guilty of plotting to kill thousands of people...".

And now here is the headline, and opening words of the story, as they appeared in the 'Jerusalem Post' version of the Associated Press version of the story.

Headline :
'UK court convicts 3 Muslims of plot to blow up airliners'

and the first line

"Three British Muslims were convicted Monday of plotting..." (etc.).

How far hath the once-great BBC fallen, that even an Associated Press article is more truthful than the BBC - the BBC which is reporting something that took place on its own home turf.

I must add that the Australian ABC falls somewhere between the two. Its news program 'AM' ran a report on this case, with a headline as cowardly and devoid of real information as the BBC's - "UK men guilty of transatlantic bomb plot" - but with an opening sentence that begins "Three British-born Muslims have been found guilty of plotting...".

It might be fun, ladies and gentlemen, to poke around the web and see how many different versions of the reporting on this verdict we can find. Take the headline and the first sentence of the story, and Compare and Contrast.

"the BBC which is reporting something that took place on its own home turf."

That's one reason why the BBC avoided the M word: it doesn't want to "radicalize" all those nice decent Muslims living in its own home turf.

From D's Army above: "It is instructive to compare headlines, and the first line sometimes, between different versions of the same story.

Mr Spencer posted the article from the BBC.

Here is its headline and first line, just to repeat:

Headline: 'Three guilty of airline bomb plot'

Three...what?""

Yea, heard this on my oldies station this afternoon. On the radio it was "Three men from England" were found guilty. No names, no background, no reasons.

Made me think just like the "South Park" episode that England must have restarted the war of 1812.

The use of dhimmi language is very bad. A couple of days ago I heard on SBS how 'gunmen' had murdered hundreds of children at Beslan. Gunmen?
Roy Rogers and guys like that? Or was it a bunch of would-be Corleonese? Or just simple bank robbers? No, it was Islamic holy warriors murdering and raping children.

Hesperado wrote:

gravenimage, thanks for that link, I've been trying to track down that story off and on for months, unsuccessfully.
.........................

Glad I could help, Hesperado. I've also had some important stories that I have not been able to track down--very frustrating.

Like you, I consider the "baby formula" aspect of this story one of the most horrific. And yet, while we are fumbling around at airports with 3oz. baggies of shampoo and mouthwash, and having our tubes of toothpaste confiscated, I don't think the baby formula issue has been addressed at all--for terrorists fanatical enough to sacrifice their own infant children while murdering large numbers of innocent Infidels.

I agree with you--while there are exceptions, pretending that little old Seventh-Day-Adventist ladies from rural Wisconsin represent the same sort of threat as young Muslim men in shalwar kameez holding Pakistani passports is absurd--although I suppose this "sweet family" of father, mother and infant-in-arms was attempting to fly below the radar in its own way.

After all, what decent Infidel would consider it possible that even the most crazed terrorist would be capable of murdering his own little baby?

gravenimage,

"although I suppose this "sweet family" of father, mother and infant-in-arms was attempting to fly below the radar in its own way."

I don't think they ever got past the planning stage -- thanks in part, by the way, to one of George Bush's policies he has been maligned for, of looking into the private financial records of supicious people, which in this case was a long and winding trail eventually helping British intelligence to crack the case (that's another story I remember reading here at JW which I can't find...)

"After all, what decent Infidel would consider it possible that even the most crazed terrorist would be capable of murdering his own little baby?"

Yes, too many Infidels throughout the West haven't fully realized the degree of fanaticism of which Muslims are capable, and part of that failure to realize is implicit in your rhetorical question: that degree of fanaticism is simply outside the bounds of their baseline understanding of fanaticism in general, literally off the charts. Another piece of the puzzle to explain the PC MC psychology of these clueless Infidels is, of course, their Reverse Racism, which powerfully inhibits them from even getting within the general vicinity of imputing anything remotely bad about Muslims.

Gravenimage, Hesperado

re. this story of the jihad gangster who was quite prepared to blow up not only himself but his wife and infant child (after all - ONLY 'slay and be slain in the path of allah' guarantees a ticket to paradise)

here is part of a report from 6 December 2008 - the account of an American journalist who was held hostage by Taliban jihad bandits in Pakistan.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/12/06/2008-12-06_journalist_sean_langan_tells_of_life_in_.html

'During interrogation, they demanded he identify his young sons - an infuriating attempt "to bring innocence and light into a dark, corrupted world," he said.
'Fearing a beheading, he revealed one son's name is Gabriel, as in the archangel, and one of the holiest names in Islam.
'The Taliban wept - and Haqqani sent a letter of apology.
'A teary-eyed interrogator threw his arm around Langan and showed him a young boy's photo on his cell phone.

'A father-to-father moment?
'Hardly.

'*The next photo showed the bomb-strapped kid blowing up a U.S. Humvee*.



"I'm looking at him like, you're a sociopath," Langan said.'

And unless one abandons all moral awareness, one must state that for a parent to turn their child into a martyr-murderer, a 'priest' of murder who annihilates himself in the act of murdering (human sacrificing) other human beings, all on the promise of gaining 'paradise' but actually in order to enable a very few very wealthy, very corrupt psychopaths to sit (precariously and briefly) at the top of the pyramid of a sharia terror-zone in the here and now, is...absolute evil.