Qur'an 4:34: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them."
Allah says you can hit your wife. These are the consequences. "Afghan women hiding for their lives," by Atia Abawl for CNN, September 24:
KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Shameen's brown eyes seem lost as she thinks about the one day she wants to forget, but it is all she can think about.
Still traumatized, she recounts the events that led her to a safe house in Kabul.
She was raped and nearly stabbed to death by her husband just seven days before we met her.
Her lips are quivering and her eyes full of fear.
"He forced himself on me," she said. "All I could do was scream."
She was married off 15 years ago when she was a teenager.
Throughout those years she was tortured and abused, suffering daily beatings with an electrical wire or the metal end of a hammer.
This was her normal life.
"He chased after me with a hammer. He said if I made any noise he would put holes through me," Shameen said.
Shameen and her husband could not conceive a child. And in Afghan society, it seems, the blame always falls on the woman.
After one severe beating, she ran from her home and to the police station. Her husband promised the police he would not attack her anymore, so she gave in and agreed to go back home with him.
Days later, Shameen's husband took her on a trip to visit her sister's grave -- a 15-year-old sister who was burned to death for displeasing her husband.
Shameen says her younger sister was 11 years old when she was forced to marry an older man. He would beat and abuse her until one day he killed her.
As Shameen walked along the graveyard with her husband he took her near a shrine where he forced her to the ground, lifted her burqa and raped her. He then threatened her with a knife and asked her who was going to help her now. She was screaming as he slashed her throat and body.
A passerby saved her.
Now, she has no one to turn to -- not even her own parents. In their eyes, she has brought them shame, an offense punishable by death. [...]
Afghanistan is a country where for centuries women have been considered property -- not equals, like the constitution states. They are often beaten, raped and even sold to the highest bidder. There are very few places women can turn to.
Nearly 90 percent of Afghan women suffer from domestic abuse, according to the United Nations Development Fund for Women.
Despite that, there are less than a dozen shelters like this one in Afghanistan, usually run by non-governmental organizations.
Abusers are rarely prosecuted or convicted, and most women are afraid to say anything.
"Their mothers are beaten by their fathers. They're beaten by their fathers, by their brothers. It's a way of life," said Manizha Naderi, director of WAW.
Naderi is an Afghan-American who grew up in New York and has returned to Afghanistan to work with other women in hopes of bringing a change, although she said it will take generations.
"They see their mothers being beaten, they see their sisters their aunts, everybody," Naderi said. "So that's what they expect."...
Funny how I read the whole article at CNN and never saw any mention of why Afghan men think its OK to abuse the women. An ignorant person might never think it has a basis in their sick "scriptures".
They are not men who treat their women so.
They are shitty, loathesome animals; stinky, stupid and stampeding in the muddy corral called Islam.
Not only did Mohammed (BBOH) say that Muslim men can beat her wives, but in a reliable hadith, he beats Aisha, his child bride.
The ACORN does not fall far from the tree...
There are at least 1.2 billion Islamic horror stories...
Shameen's is but one of them...But don't worry Moammar's celestial son Barry will fix all of them...Barry can fix anything...Look what he's done for America...
Islamic women have no human rights whatsoever.
Concerning rape, it's hardly ever reported in Mo countries. Well, what can you do when shar'ia law requires "4 male witnesses," which has got to be the most asinine and misogynist "law" ever created on the planet.
In addition, because of the asinine and idiotic and woman-hating "honor culture" cr*p, the female - whether girl or woman - is blamed anyway for "getting herself raped." So, what's the use? Muslim females are "damned if they do and damned if they don't." No legitimate legal recourse exists for Muslim females.
Reporting rape in a Muslim country is basically a death sentence for the complaining female. When I read of Muslim males bleating and braying how "there's no rape in Islamic countries," I could wring their necks, bastards.
And yeah, what Undaunted said. Except that I wouldn't be so generous as to call them "animals." Rather, they are insects, with the brains and feelings of insects. They are dung beetles and centipedes and scorpions.
Yep, I just got really pis*ed off when I read this article here. I'm sure everyone understands.
Well put, undaunted. I admire no man who abuses women and Islam is a prescription for allowing men to do exactly that, notwithstanding mendacious or ignorant claims to the contrary.
off topic
but i just read that an iranian AWACS aircraft (their only one) collided with another airplane and crashed. How funny is that??
Here's to turning the tables on those 'men.'
You call that living? Having a life? A life of hell! To avoid the fie like some of the victims of 9/11 who jumped, many of these women would if they had a big enough building.
You call that living? Having a life? A life of hell! To avoid the fie like some of the victims of 9/11 who jumped, many of these women would if they had a big enough building.
And this is the culture/religeon we are importing to our country in ever larger numbers. " Give me your tired..your poor..your huddled masses..longing for sharia.."
Now, she has no one to turn to -- not even her own parents. In their eyes, she has brought them shame, an offense punishable by death.
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And this, despite Shameen's parents having already lost a daughter--burned to death at *just fifteen years old*--to the horrors of 'domestic abuse'.
Do these parents feel they have perhaps failed their girls--marrying both of them off to murderous "husbands"? It seems not--the girls are always to blame--even when they are prepubescent children.
I understand Darcy--these stories fill me with rage and pity.
Bosch, I always have loved your piece "Comeuppance". Too bad, for most Muslimahs, this is just a fantasy.
it's about time for an Islamic Womens Revolution....the only way to escape slavery is to revolt....expecially when you have nowhere to run to and no one is helping to remove the yoke of Islamic male oppression...
So, that's why I never got pregnant. My husband never beat me...
What dirtbags these elderly horndogs are!
If it is designed to lead to a high fertility rate then it is a great success story.
Bosch, love your poster and love your thought process. I too was thinking that the old "beat those from whom you fear rebellion" concept seems to be uniquely Muslim. So my question is, which came first, Muslim insecurities or the beating of women? Do insecure Muslim males beat their women because they fear rebellion from them or do they fear rebellion from them because they beat their women?
Imagine a world where Muslim women don't take it lying down anymore, and where Muslim men don't answer every problem with a murder or revenge.
I'm waiting for Abdullah Mikail to chime in with Excuse #432: It's a cultural or tribal thing, it has nothing to do with Islam.
l have over the years realized that muslim are the most cowardly humans on this earth, the need to control their women though beatings, rape and murder, their korans instructs them to kill in ambush. what a sorry lot these muslim men have become. fight among civilians if not by ambush.
1) All those wildly brutal mohammedan men are the sons of mohammedan mothers, at whose knee they learned their first lessons in language and human relations.
2) The entire mohammedan culture assiduously cultivates a deep conviction of learned helplessness and a powerful feeling of victimhood in all of its members. This outlook colors the worldview and choices of most of the world's mohammedans.
(That is victimhood in its own right, as a thing in itself, independent of any one particular victimiser.)
3) Mohammedan psychological victimhood is primary. It expresses itself in the despotism of the mohammedan cultures, which despotism of course reinforces the sense of victimhood and helplessness. But it is the mindset that comes first -- this is not an endless chicken-and-egg problem, the culture is the cause.
4) Mohammedan psychological victimhood finds a myriad of other expressions. We see it especially in their attitudes towards Jews, America, western culture and outsiders generally.
5) Mohammedan men and women are enacting the logical expression on the personal plane of their general cultural outlook.
6) These considerations are why mohammedan women will not simply stand up all together at once and simply stop this nonsense. Within their victim world view, without a sense of the heroic individual spirit of humanity, they have no capacity for self defense -- or for raising more considerate children. It is only their outlook that holds them back -- this is obvious, once you give it a moment's thought.
7) The only solution lies in a change to the basic mohammedan world view -- which they intuitively understand, being human -- and which is why apostates will continue to be killed -- and also why they compulsively seek supremacy from which to impose their world view wherever they go.
(Unfortunately, world-views only change by one mind at a time, barring an iron-clad military occupation and an extremely expensive propaganda immersion campaign)
8) The victim view of life justifies every manner of hostility and brutality. So the psychological victim remains completely unscrupulous and uninhibited by moral doubt.
9) Mohammedans, particularly the men, proceed into aggressive hostile encounters feeling fully justified and righteously vengeful due to their psychological victimhood and the sense of just retribution that results.
10) The sensitive feminized scrupulous men that predominate in the western, indeed the civilized world, are no match for the sheer aggression of the mohammedans.
Muslims and their apologists like to trumpet an obscure hadith that specifies that the method of punishment pertinent to 4.34 should be a "thin reed", i.e., something that is symbolic but causes no pain.
If any of you are ever confronted with this apologia, the appropriate response should be something along these lines:
'This is a single 16th or 17th century Hadith long antedating Bukari's and Muslim's authoritative (Sahi) collection, and was most likely invented because of the increasing exposure of Christian mores among learned Muslims, who were embarrassed by the barbarism of their own creed and felt the need to mitigate 4.34.'
PS - I once read a feminist academic (whose name escapes me) who attributed the spousal violence and misogyny of the Muslim male to - get this - 'the indignities suffered under colonialism'.
Only an "intellectual" could come up with that one.
Dialogue between Allah and a decent Muslim man
Allah: It's come to my omniscient attention, Habib, that you are not beating your wives -- that in fact you have never once raised your hand against them since you married them.
Habib (on his face before the Most High): Most Compassionate, Beneficent, Gracious, Merciful Bestower of Peace, subhanahu wa ta`ala! I don't know what to say -- it's just the way I am. I don't ever find any need to hit my women. Is that wrong, O Mighty Compeller, Protector and Granter of Security?
Allah: And not only don't you beat your wives, you don't beat any of your sex slaves, either. What's the matter with you? What kind of a man are you?
Habib (cringing, face in the dirt): I'm sorry, O Shaper, Forgiver, Subduer -- like I said, I just have never felt like hitting my women.
Allah: You know, Habib, that I gave you and all Muslim men explicit carte blanche to hit your women -- it's right there in my Koran, aya 34 of the Surah-an-Nisa. I even gave you a giant loophole, I specifically said that if you merely suspect your women of disobedience, you can beat them. You don't even have to see any disobedience! You can just "fear" that it might happen, and whack her upside the head, kick her in the ribs, throttle her until her face turns blue, throw acid in her face, burn her skin -- whatever, it's up to you! Nowhere in there did I limit the methods you can use. Mashallah, Habibi! I give you this on a silver platter, and you don't even take it?
Habib (still cowering in the dust): O All-Knowing Abaser, Humiliator, Reckoner -- what should I do? Should I change my ways?
Allah: I’m just sayin’... if you want to go the extra mile, show a little appreciation for what I have bestowed upon my Believers.
Habib: O Majestic, Revered and Sublime Sustainer -- I will definitely think about it! (Hesitates, trembling in awe) But if I do decide to hit my women now and then, I will only do it lightly, because I have seen that written down, O Responsive, Generous, and Watchful Protector!
Allah: Camelshit! You might see in some translations of my Koran and in the tafsirs written about it that the beatings should be done “lightly” and with restraint. I never said that. Nowhere in 4:34 did I ever say anything about restraining yourself “lightly” from the ass-kicking your women probably deserve. On the other hand, it is true I never said you can’t go lightly on those bitches if that’s what you want to do (though I can’t for the life of me imagine why you’d want to). Again, Habibi, it’s up to you, but why hold back when your own God gives you complete license to whoop your women black and blue? I swear, some of these Believers just don’t see the gifts I’ve given them! I give, and give, and this is the thanks I get!
women's rights are Un-Islamic
I have never actually hit my wife..but once..while her back was turned..and I in a fit of rage..made a kicking motion with my foot and my slipper flew off and landed within a couple of feet of her. allah was not impressed I'm guessin'.
Have you noticed that Abdullard doesn't come onto this sort of thread. Obviously, like the good Islamonazi barbarian he is, he sees nothing wrong with abusing women. And if he and his ilk had their way, that would be happening to women here in the West as a matter of routine. That is why it is long past time he was kicked out of the West. It ought to be mandatory that if you convert to Islam and spout anti-Western propaganda, you and every Muslim in your family should be kicked out to a typical Islamic craphole like Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc, and if you support terrorist attacks, it ought to be the rest of their lives in solitary, and if you plan or carry out terrorist attacks - then execution.
"I'm waiting for Abdullah Mikail to chime in with Excuse #432: It's a cultural or tribal thing, it has nothing to do with Islam." -- Hesperado
Exactly. Poor Ab Mik - so brainwashed.
As he is a former "Infidel," it's obvious that Ab Mik has got mental problems to switch to evil Islam. Just like Doug Hooper - mental problems extraordinaire. They should be put into Asylums. Oh, and Asylums Out of our Country. Put 'em in Yemen Asylums.
Rammer - in the Hebrew Scriptures, the Psalms, this is what Psalm 7 has to say about the evil man:
"He who is pregnant with evil and conceives trouble gives birth to disillusionment.
"He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made.
"The trouble he causes recoils on himself; his violence comes down upon his own head".
(I understand that the wreckage of this Iranian AWAC and the plane it crashed into, fell onto - of all places - the mausoleum of the Ayatollah Khomeini).
Perhaps YHWH is saying something to the Mullahs.