Today's Hate Mail Bag entry comes to us from Palm Beach, north of Sydney, Australia, with the subject line "YOU R THE TERRORISTS":
I am Roy, in Sydney, Aussie. Your blame about Islam teaching terrorism is extremely misguidence. How those white people came to America (Indian land)? The killing of thoese Indians is not terrorism? How other European countries or even Britain came to the countries called commonwealth countries? You think that did not involve killing? U r very smart so u can set tup this website, unfortunately u can not use your intelligent brain to think critically. Mate..come on, grow up.
You almost pulled off that native Aussie act there, mate, but the "extremely misguidence" tipped off this terrorist.
No Australian calls their country 'Aussie' It's Oz. Another Muslim sock-puppet - it would be much more fun if they didn't make it so easy by using half-wits
Yeah he's a real aussie...prolly keysar trad.
But to the point, all that crap happened hundreds of years ago and we're talking now. Mussies have the strangest ways of taking up for the murdering,thieving,pedophile mo hamad and his band of merciless thugs.
Just the other day down here a group of 6 bad mussie men attacked an 18 year old kid with knives, real men yeah.
Oh and btw, I'm from the states and a citizen here now too.
My Great grandmother was a full blood eastern Cherokee and the stuff done to my people by the european people is nothing compared with the daily killings and bombings done in the name of islam.
I would say this err Roy is from Bankstown/Lakemba and is another Muslim boy who has obviously dropped out of school due to 'us' white Aussie trash who vilify and treat his ilk so poorly /sigh...
Guess what Roy, i'm an Aussie and I support Robert Spencer and JW %100. Onya camel mate and ride home.
Mohammedan are hilarious because in the main they are uneducated, gullible and naive they presume we are too. It must be a real shock to them when their pathetic ploys fail time after time.
Mohammedan are hilarious because in the main they are uneducated, gullible and naive they presume we are too. It must be a real shock to them when their pathetic ploys fail time after time.
Through the course of islam's 1400 year history all moslem "Lands" were stolen from the original people that lived there........
It started out in what is now Saudi Arabia, a land that was stolen from the Jews.........
Saudi Arabia is Jewish land......... A civilization living there that was destroyed....... by moslems...
Then it was on to Persia, stolen in the name of islam, from the persians.......... another civilization that was destroyed...........
then it was on to the land that the Syrians live, and another civilization was destroyed.......
Then on to Egypt, and another civilization was destroyed....... Nobody there speaks "Egyptian" anymore, they all speak "Arabic" the original Egyptian language and culture has been lost....
Moslems moved into India, the land that is now Pakistan, and yet another portion of Indian civilization was destroyed.......
And what about Spain? Well the moslems did take Spain but Spain has been the historical success story, in its own way........ Yet they have forgotten their history as well......
In Indonesia, Africa, Europe, North America and anywhere moslem's have moved to, the war continues.......
The entire Middle East was Jewish land, and now Jews get only a sliver, originally with the permission of the UN, and after 60 years is still having to defend itself under constant moslem aggression.......
(Q)- When does it end?
(A)-When Islamic aggression has been stopped......
And the world wakes up to the menace to humanity, that is Islam........
The history of Islam proves this......
A rich vein here Robert.
It seems the whole toxic muslim world have the same talking points.
The best jihadi is still a dead one.
A few things for this illiterate sock puppet to consider:
1. It isn't Robert Spencer that conceived the notion that Islam teaches terrorism. It was Muslims themselves that have advocated this idea. If you were to actually read the various declarations of al-Qaeda, Hamas, and other jihad groups, they are all quite proud to declare that Islam encourages them to terrorise their enemies through acts of violence.
2. Even if we were to concede to your leftist historical narrative of evil whitey committing genocide everywhere, how does this negate the relationship between Islam and jihad terrorism?
All muslims should be issued free T-shirts proclaiming,
THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW!
or
"Living in the past, is not living at all...."
(Bruce Cockburn, from the song "Change Your Mind")
or
“People who live in the past generally are afraid to compete in the present. I've got my faults, but living in the past is not one of them. There's no future in it.”
Sparky Anderson
Actually the first Jihad was against the Arab people and still goes on today against any Arab who should step out of line by questioning the Koran.
As for the silly argument the "Aussie" mailer tries to use-
Yes "White people" have done bad & wrong things.
How does that justify Islams many crimes against humanity?
It doesn't.
Europeans & the desendants of europeans did not invent invasion, murder & slavery.
Yes, there are other problems and wrongs in the world.
But the focus here is on ISLAMIC JIHAD
because it is the single biggest threat to mankind today.
This is not a black vs. white situation.
I am from Australia and this guy is definitely not an Aussie. He's pathetic and as Shelldrake1972 said above, he's probably one of "da boyz" from "da hood" in Lakemba/Bankstown, who goes driving around in his "sick" car to "pick up chicks."
All good Australians who know what's good for them would take the necessary time and due diligence to listen to what Robert Spencer says, read his books, absorb his arguments and recognise his credibility, especially when other "experts" can't effectively tackle him in debate.
Robert, by the way, if you do actually reply to these hate-mail idiots on a daily basis, I'd like to see your response. However, I safely assume that because you don't want to waste your time, you wouldn't give them the pleasure of responding?
What worries me about this inane email is, what the HELL is going on in Palm beach?
Its a millionaire's area, some impoverished wannabee jihadist lives there??
Definitely written by a Muslim. Changing the subject so that Islamic Terrorism isn't discussed. A common ploy.
BWHahahahahahaha...Wow! These emails from Mohammedans morons are truly comical. It does show their mental retardation caused by their war and hate doctrine of Islam. Yes the foolish Mohammedans love their pedophile child molester prophet Mohammad. Truly Islam is a sick ideology.
"Your blame about Islam teaching terrorism is extremely misguidence."
That's also what usually comes out of the fat trap of one of the world's most moronic anti-Semites to have ever been vomited by mahoundistan: Adnan Oktar/Harun Yahya (an interior-design school dropout, known by his fellow mahoundians as "Dr". Oktar/Yahya):
Darwinism is the root of terrorism, Islam is the antidote: Harun Yahya
(...)
Mr. Yahya is opposed to Zionism and Freemasonry and sees them as very interrelated movements. He denounces terrorism, which he says is a product of Darwinism, while he considers Islam its antidote. Islam, he believes, is a religion of peace and love.
If anyone has the stomach to read the rest of the interview, you'll find out, according to "Dr." Yahya, how mahoundianism is also the "antidote" to the current global economic recession. And you thought you knew how crazy their conspiracy theories could get...
"I have made victorious by terror." Sure, Robert Spencer traveled back in time and MADE Mohammed (BBOH) say that.
I believe that I could sell Roy a bridge in Brooklyn.
Faux-Mate wrote: "Your blame about Islam teaching terrorism is extremely misguidence."
Muhammad was a terrorist and taught others to be terrorists.
OK, so let that sink in for a moment or two ...he was also a liar ...that's right, take a moment, breath deep, and let that sink in as well. He was also a sexual deviant and child molestor -- again, take another deep cleannnnsing breath so that the truth can penetrate through the barrier of lies you've chosen to believe about this man.
So sorry to tell you this, Mate, but Muha was nothing more than a common criminal with a lust for power, O, and little girls, too. If a man like Muhammad (prison be upon him) were alive today, then he would either be behind bars, or hug about the neck until dead -- and rightly so.
So, Roy, what are you doing living in "Aussie" -- one of the commonwealth countries that involved killing?
"How those white people came to America (Indian land)? The killing of thoese Indians is not terrorism? How other European countries or even Britain came to the countries called commonwealth countries? You think that did not involve killing?"
Is it just me, or does this passage sound like he's admitting that Islam wants to do to us what we did to the Indians?
Roy is your typical Muslim, blaming others for everything, and doing nothing to promote peace and peaceful co-existance with other peoples of other faiths...
He also fails to note, that wherever Europeans arrived in foreign countries the quality of life went up...when they were booted out by the Muslims, the quality of life deteriorated rapidly...
Not that Christian Europeans were perfect, but they certainly were better for the people than the alternative...
"Your blame about Islam teaching terrorism is extremely misguidence."
Translation:
"We don't want any of you figuring out what any of us are up to until we descend on you like a hornet's nest and it's too late for you to do anything about it. We'll lie, steal, cheat and/or kill to establish Islam and enslave you and you'd better just put up with it. If you won't, we will pitch a bloody fit and lie some more and accuse you of every nasty thing that we are actually doing. SO DON'T TELL ANYBODY, OKAY?!!!"
Obviously not an Aussie. Obviously an oppressor of uncovered meat.
"Extremely misguidence". Reminds me of the "all-American speak" of "Charles Hoff", "a there-born American" as he presented himself, who ordered Robert and "Huge" out of this country, and also officially abolished the US Supreme Court, on this very web site.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
"How those white people came to America (Indian land)? The killing of thoese Indians is not terrorism?"
So I guess the history of the European ancestors and their near genocidal treatment of the indigenous people of N. America is supposed to justify modern terrorism of the west today?
I love his logic.
It's these kind of thinkers that prove that banging your head on the floor five times daily,Qur'anic indoctrination from birth, and regular "khat" intake can produce frontal lobe damage that leads to Islamic pathology.
The correspondent needs some practice in Strine. He might look at the scene here, and note how Dmitros and the other Australians speak to Glenn Headley as she suggests they all go and put more shrimp on the barbie, right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bsrbOjyd5k&feature=related
And for further practice there's always Muriel's Wedding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U4kDzwZAMk
"Muriel's Wedding" - one of my favorite movies!
Oh, and that's such a great scene! You Go, Girls!
But he used the word "mate!" That counts for SOMETHING, right?...right?
There are so many ways to debunk his silly little statements that it's almost pointless to respond. I would suggest that "Roy" should pick up a history book--and perhaps a few Islamic texts too.
That is, unless he's just pretending to be ignorant and making erroneous allusions in attempt to throw someone off. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm inclined to believe the latter.
From his writing, you can tell he's from another country...islamic.
Muslims have killed more people than any of the world wars.
Keep singing peace whilst bloody murdering everyone you disagree with...and those you agree with.
Yeah, and if this clown is an Ozzie mad dog mohamad was a benevolent forgiving and peace loving individual!
Hugh,
Sure, we all speak like Paul Hogan or Steve Irwin and say "maaate" at the end of every sentence. Michael Caine's accent is really English not Oz,by the way. Your average Australian accent is far too subtle to be successfully imitated by non-native speakers.
There's a slab of James Boag's in my fridge right now. It's what separates me and my mates from the Lebs. We could call it the amber divide between two cultures that will never be bridged. Choose a side because there isn't enough room on the continent for both.
I not for Australia and am surprised that non of you native born did not offer the retard to leave the country and go back to Pakistani or wereever he came from. The west is getting fed up very quickly with the Islamic scam.
And for God sakes don't even think about coming to the US!!
THERE MATE!
Here's one for Hugh -
a news story on modern Australian idioms and the bafflement that they cause in those who *thought* that they had the English language learnt, before they blew in here.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/17/2689235.htm
In my own experience, there is 'Country Australian' and there is 'Educated Australian'.
"I am Roy, in Sydney, Aussie. Your blame about Islam teaching terrorism is extremely misguidence. How those white people came to America (Indian land)? The killing of thoese Indians is not terrorism? How other European countries or even Britain came to the countries called commonwealth countries? You think that did not involve killing? U r very smart so u can set tup this website, unfortunately u can not use your intelligent brain to think critically. Mate..come on, grow up."
Okay it is Muslims themselves who justify their "jihad" also known as terrorism, with the passages from their Book of Hate also known as the Quran.
Europeans sailed west to find an alternate route to the Orient due to Muslims raiding, murdering and bringing into slavery those who wished to trade for spices. They were looking for a safer route that avoided the Muslim Barbarians. So maybe we should blame Islam for that. Hmm something to think about.
This hate-mailer demonstrates his/her lack of critical thinking abilities, and piss poor education.
To a poster above ("Mac"):
I know that the Strine at the end of "Dirty Rascal Scoundrels" was slightly off, but it did not have to be perfect or even close, might have been wrong had it been more than a quick, and broad attempt, for it was only the briefest of attempts by con-man Caine and con-woman Headley to ingratiate themselves. The whole thing was deliberate parody, thus the "shrimp on the barbie."
For god's sake, the Australians I know don't even barbecue, but are usually inside, in their labs, seeing how things are coming along with those cancer cells in vitro, and there is not a wild colonial boy among them.
I put up a tribute to Australia a few years ago. Perhaps you never saw it:
Australia, Australia, Australia (Bis)
Prompted by scenes of Hobart, a Tasmanian devil whispers to me "let's do it." So let it be bis for that billet-doux to Botany Bay previously posted right here:
"Australia, a mysterious yet comforting place about which I know only the following:
There are kangaroos.
There is the book with the green cover, by Mrs. Aeneas Gunn, called "We of the Never Never" which I have on my bookshelf.
There is Les Murray.
There was Henry Handel Richardson.
There are Blue Mountains.
There was a famous Australian explorer whose first name was Lachlan, just like the son of Mr. Murdoch.
There is an excellent magazine called Quadrant, and Simon Leys (Pierre Ryckmans) writes for that magazine, or has written for it, and may even now be living in Australia.
English convicts were transported there. Think of Pip's friend in "Great Expectations."
Clive James comes from there.
Barry Humphreys comes from there.
The last scene in "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" when Glen Headly has ensnared a group of Australians about to be parted from their money by Glen, and the con-men played by Michael Caine and Steve Martin, reinforces the cliche about Australians and barbecues.
There was "Muriel's Wedding" with that catchy tune sung by Muriel and her thin friend.
There was a coelecanth caught in 1936 off the shores of Austral....oops, that was the Union of South Africa. Sorry, wrong country. Skip that -- sorry, the eraser on the pencil is too hard and won't do the trick.
There was a famous movie about a World War I deserter and he wore an Australian bush-hat.
There was ANZAC. There was Gallipoli. There were Australian troops everywhere and anywhere they should have been, in every war, and their attitude was always right.
There is the most beautiful and variegated fauna and flora, and the macrolepidoptera aren't bad either.
There are Aborigines, and fake-aborigine poets dreamed up so that they could have prizes lavished on them for their authentic poetic voice and then the scheme was revealed and many Australians had egg on their faces -- well-deserved and scrambled egg.
There are large cities called Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane.
There is the Outback, with Alice Springs.
There are lambs to be shorn.
At night tourists are taken spotlighting for wombats.
The country is altogether wonderful and I have hardly scratched the surface -- all I have scratched is that shallow part of my pre-caffeinated brain which is called "What I Know About Australia."
There is Robert Hughes, whose book on the country is very long.
There may be an Oxford Book of Australian Verse but I don't own it.
There was Patrick White.
There is Van Diemen's Land.
There is Tasmania. There is the Tasmanian Devil.
There are many marsupials. There is the monitor. There is the duck-billed platypus.
There are large crocodiles in Queensland.
There is Keith Windschuttle.
The botanist Joseph Banks had a field-day in Australia, and there is a genus of plants known as Banksia.
New Zealanders like to make sure that everyone knows they are not Australians, the way Canadians like to make sure that everyone knows they are not Americans.
There are a lot of big mining companies in Australia. Broken Hill is one of them.
Australia was discovered now on this coast, now on that. One of the earliest of its discoverers was William Dampier, whose "Voyages" became famous. Another was Captain James Cook, whose report of his voyages is accompanied by a very nice atlas.
Australia is one of my favorite countries. I like the sound of its name. The very idea of Australia comforts me.
Yes, time to toast Botany Bay, and Watkin Tench, and Arthur Phillip, and what's past, and passing, and to come.
I love Australia."
I posted links to those two scenes from “Dirty Rotten Scoundrels” and “Muriel’s Wedding” not as a lesson in linguistics but because I like them. The Strine business was only an excuse. End of story.
Hugh,
Perhaps I was being too "tongue in cheek",I really don't expect you to know much about Oz. A misunderstanding due to our different national senses of humor,perhaps.
dumbledoresarmy,
actually linguists recognise 3 Oz accents-
1.Broad Australian (Strine)
2.Standard Australian and
3.Cultivated Australian
1&2 are gradually disappearing. There was a fourth accent type-(Steve Irwish) which is now extinct.
dumbledoresarmy,
actually linguists recognise 3 Oz accents-
1.Broad Australian (Strine)
2.Standard Australian and
3.Cultivated Australian
1&2 are gradually disappearing. There was a fourth accent type-(Steve Irwish) which is now extinct.
Hugh
to understand a little more about Australia.
Google: Bradshaw Figures. Burrup Peninsula. Wandjina. Quinkans. Eagle's Reach cave - images.
Find out about Dr Luise Hercus.
May Gibbs.
C J Dennis: The Sentimental Bloke. Hint: look up the classic silent-era film of the same name - Australian Film Archive is a good place to start, but it might be on youtube by now, who knows?
Ion L Idriess: The Desert Column; Horrie the Wog Dog; Flynn of the Inland.
Eric Rolls - Celebration of the Senses.
William Robinson (artist).
Douglas Stewart and David Campbell. Bernard O'Reilly - 'Green Mountains' and 'Cullenbenbong'.
Almost every film by Peter Weir, except 'Last Wave': Picnic at Hanging Rock (if and when you watch it, Hugh, bear in mind that one of the girls who disappears, Irma, the *only* one who returns alive, is - in the book on which the film is based - very clearly a 'Jewish princess'). Gallipoli. Year of Living Dangerously (he was threatened by Muslims while filming that one in the Philippines - for obvious reasons he couldn't film it on location in Indonesia). Witness. Mosquito Coast. Dead Poets Society. Green Card. Fearless (his masterpiece). Truman Show. Master and Commander. He's currently working on a film about someone who escapes from a Soviet-era gulag: it's called The Way Back.
And, as I have mentioned to you before, look up an Australian farmer called Peter Andrews.
Post scriptum. Isn't it nice to get sidetracked, just for a little while, and take a break from discussing the predictable drearinesses of Islam?
But then, too, so much of this fun stuff we talk about, the art and the music and the stories...it's all of that, that would be annihilated, if the JIhad ate the world.