No bells, no public displays. And in the modern age, no loud joyful music.
And now these dhimmi laws come to the UK. Dunni Odetoyinbo said in court that a council officer asked her "to keep the noise down so as not to offend the Muslim community." The council denies this now, but given that Muslim neighbors were complaining, there is nothing implausible about Odetoyinbo's claim.
"Worshippers quit church after council noise ban 'takes away their ability to praise God," from the Daily Mail, October 8 (thanks to Daniel):
They praised the Lord by singing their hearts out and chanting prayers at packed services.
But members of a congregation in north London have abandoned their church - because of a council noise ban.
The Immanuel International Christian Centre was ordered to keep its amplified music and sermons quieter after a neighbour complained.
But the church's pastor Dunni Odetoyinbo claimed Waltham Forest council had only told them to keep quiet so as not to offend the Muslim community....
In court Mrs Odetoyinbo, 55, claimed a council officer had asked her 'to keep the noise down so as not to offend the Muslim community'.
But magistrates rejected the appeal, and ordered the church to pay £2,250 costs.
It can now only play music for 20 minutes on a Sunday between 11.30am and 11.50pm....
This is the future of the Western world: More and more restrictions on things we value and love, which in the end, will include everything. Nothing in Islam is positive to our way of life.
I know a lot of un-religious people think this will not affect them. I have friends who do not go to church. They say it won't affect me if Muslims take over as the predominant religion. In a way, they are right; they will be dead.
The caretakers of the Asylum once known as Great Britain lead us down the path to a Hell on Earth. I am beginning to doubt we can reverse the tide without a civil war.
Feel the love.
Moskes everywhere have loudspeakers on top of their high towers (minareths), bellowing their daily prayer six times (I guess) a day. If complains were filed in about the racket, they would certainly be dismissed on grounds of "freedom of religion", right?
Israel however, true to the *only* UN resolution that was pro israel - namely, the one that partitioned Mandate Palestine - treats its minorities with respect.
In my town, Ramla, no one cares about the noise, and for good reason: this is *our* land, period.
Not that we are reciprocated.
Look at Yerushalaim: the police made all it could to ensure a quiet Ramadan for them. The officers were even instructed to refrain from eating in front of the fasting arabs. Jews respect other people's troubles.
So, arabs had their forty days. Now, it is our turn to celebrate our most important religious holidays: Rosh Hashaná, Yom Kippur and Simchá Torah. The two latter are heavily connected to the Wailing Wall. Well, the same arabs stockpiled rocks well in advance (weelbarrows have been found and exposed by the police) to create unrest and trouble, ultimately aiming (apparently) to incite a third intifada, by blaming Israel for its security measures...
They get all the PR they want, and the usual bleeding hearts anti-semites in the media, campuses, etc., will cowtow abbas and the poor suffering palestinians.
That is why Israel should act though and give world public opinion a banana. Assert its sovereignty over ALL of Yerushalaim. Strip citizenship and deport any thugs, rioters, inciters to the PA territories.
Oh, well.
If there is to be such, Guy, then it is time that the contemporary church stop preaching a castrated Christ. It is time that they realise that defense of their religion and of their culture, which brought about the reformation and the advancement of western civilization that these ingratge muslims now flock to (only to then impose their backward, barbarous ways unto us), is valid in "the eyes of the Lord." We must pierce the drug induced malaise of our liberal countrymen, and we must especially awaken Christians and Jews as to the danger that open door immigration (as well as capitulation) presents when people of a certain persuasion are more than happy to abuse such a stance.
OK so they banned church bells because of the noise. Well i can live with that only if they also ban loudspeakers on the minarets of the mosque bellowing the islamic call to prayer 5 times a day
Muslims would, if they could, prevent Christians from playing any church music at any decibel level.
Both the rousing gospel music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaBNAXfHfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzr_GBa8qk&feature=related
and the quiet hymns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLbRA0PoDM
are equally offensive to Muslim ears. And in a Muslim-dominated society, those are the only ears that count.
Well, excuse me for living!
Uh, they will take care of that "little matter" next
Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
More detailed information can be found here:
http://www.ccfon.org/view.php?id=866
At least this punishment went through on the pretext of denying the charge. The next step will be for the legal authorities to state officially and publically that their punishment is based on protecting Muslim sensibilities.
From the article:
Baha Uddin, who lives near the church, had complained he was unable to use his garden at weekends and his one-year-old daughter was regularly disturbed by the noise from services.
He said: 'It’s been a nightmare. I’ve not been able to use my garden or living room on a Sunday because of the church services. The amplified music, drums and the loud sermons made having a conversation impossible. The noise made me depressed.'
Please... I've heard that monstrosity called the mahoundian call to prayer first hand, in mahoundian lands, and I've heard little babies wake up in the early hours of the morning in summer (when that crap can is broadcast at around 4:30 AM at times) crying because they were yet to be brainwashed into believing that there's anything remotely sacred, or divine, or holy about that hellish whining and wailing. And, yes, unlike your average joyful hymns from Christian churches (I may be an agnostic, but I still find that kind of music quite nice), the mahoundian call to zebibah-carving is depressing as hell.
Besides, when that monstrosity is not an insane screeching like the one broadcast in Ankara, Turkey, it's that nasal grunting that can be heard on videos featuring the mass-trance of zombies around the black Rubik's cube (the only kind that mahoundian minds could solve if it were an actual puzzle) in Mecca: simply heinous, simply vomit-inducing, simply nauseating (and that's just to talk about how it sounds, not about the genocidal, misogynistic, racist, supremacist and murderous cult that it stands for.)
And, by the way, doesn't Buraq Arafat Saddam Hussein Osama just loves that sound too?
Ladies and gentlemen: this is not the first time, by any means, that Muslims in Britain have set out, by use of 'stealth jihad', to manipulate noise regulations in order to de facto impose the Rules for Dhimmis on English Christian churches.
From this story the jihadwatch archives (featuring dhimmis in *South Africa* silencing themselves in order not to 'offend' the members of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/dhimmi-choirs-fall-silent-in-south-africa.html
Scroll down through the comments to find our late beloved Dominic Tabrar-Synge, necessitasnonhabetlegem, giving his first-hand account of Muslim attempts to silence church-bells:
necessitasnonhabetlegem | December 21, 2006 10:17 PM
'Giving in to the barbarian moslem horde is happening everywhere. I have just come back to London from a visit to my parents during which I attended Holy Communion at one of my favourite country churches.
'After communion - and over a good cup of tea, this is England after all - I was speaking with the Tower Captain of that particular church
'and he informed me that a planned ring of Grandsire Doubles with triple dodging above on Saturday had had to be cancelled *because the local mosk had objected and appealed to the local council to have the ring stopped. The Council issued a noise abatement order which effectively prohibits the ringing of any bells in the tower indefinitely* {my emphasis - dda}.
'I hope that all of you can imagine just how angry I now feel.
'However, I must inform you that the ring will go ahead despite the local council's ruling and all the ringers are prepared to be taken into court if necessary - a lawyer has been retained and they are going to fight this one.
'*I also learnt from this particular Tower Captain that such actions are happening all over the UK and are always being challenged by the ringers* {my emphasis - dda}.
'If I can find anything on the web I will post links. {I'm not sure that this issue was covered in any online news source - surprise, surprise - as there wasn't, to my knowledge, a followup report - dda}
Dominic.
necessitasnonhabetlegem | December 21, 2006 10:22 PM
BTW, the noise abatement order, as phrased and issued, also covers the tolling of the passing bell - it seems that we are not going to be allowed to honour our dead either!
Dominic."
Memo to all UK readers. If you are able-bodied, and Islamosavvy, and your local parish church has a ring of bells, you could always consider joining the bellringing team (even if you're not a Christian - just do it to spit in the eye of the Mohammedan supremacists and fun-haters). And if the church has a ring of bells, but no bellringers, why not *start* a team of ringers, yourself?
*Encourage* your local vicar/ parson/ priest/ minister, to make a joyful noise; revel in the peculiarly English art of 'change-ringing' (for a brilliant literary description of which, see Dorothy L Sayers' wonderful novel, 'The Nine Tailors') and if there are local Muslims, and they object, then be prepared to back up said vicar or parson or priest, to the hilt.
If your local church is Catholic, or High Anglican, *encourage* them to ring the Angelus, and the Celebration, etc. Let them know that you do *not* object.
PS - Your local Catholics and High Anglicans, and Orthodox, and Salvation Army corps, and also any local Hindus, should be enthusiastically encouraged to reclaim the streets for non-Muslims, by means of their public festival processions; all such un-Islamic manifestations, the noisier and more 'in-your-face' the better, should be enthusiastically participated in (if one belongs to the faith) or enthusiastically spectated by all resisters of Jihad and Sharia.