It certainly stands to reason that if al-Shabaab can get Somalis and other Muslims to leave the U.S. to wage jihad in Somalia, they can get their personnel into the U.S., or use U.S.-based jihadists to wage jihad here instead of going overseas. "FBI Director: Al Qaeda-Linked Somali Group Could Attack U.S.," by Catherine Herridge for FoxNews, October 2:
They could strike the United States. That grim assessment is the first time the FBI director or any other senior law enforcement or intelligence official has stated on the record that the Al Qaeda-linked group al-Shabaab is no longer content to strike within the East African nation of Somalia.
During a hearing on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, FBI Director Robert Mueller was asked if members of al-Shabaab, which translates as "mujahideen youth," would send American recruits back to the U.S. to launch attacks.
"I would think that we have seen some information that the leaders would like to undertake operations outside of Somalia," Mueller told the Senate Homeland Security Committee.
Mueller said he is "absolutely" concerned that Americans who traveled to Somalia to train as terrorists would have U.S. legal status and would therefore be able to return to the United States and carry out attacks.
A U.S. counterterrorism official told FOX News that al-Shabaab has exploded since 2006, and it is becoming a full-fledged Al Qaeda affiliate, similar to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Initially the group's militias fought against the Somali government and Ethopian forces who are against an Islamic state in East Africa, the official said, but now the group's focus is turning toward the establishment of a "caliphate" or broad Islamic state not limited to Africa.
It was never just about Somalia. Somalia was just the initial, local expression of a global agenda that is the underlying factor in jihadist conflicts from Chechnya to Thailand: The intent of imposing Islamic law, everywhere. That is the ultimate aim of jihad.
In fact, in an exclusive briefing on Thursday, a U.S. counterterrorism official told FOX News that al-Shabaab's leadership is bona fide Al Qaeda. In many cases, the operatives who guide the group in East Africa have pledged allegiance to Usama Bin Laden in person, and in some cases the Al Qaeda leader has entrusted them with missions outside of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, according to the official.
Training camps are now well-established in Somalia, and as many as 1,100 foreign fighters have joined the al-Shabaab movement, the president of Somalia's transitional government told a crowd gathered at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington on Wednesday.
A U.S. counterterrorism official said there are other troubling developments. A recent videotape from al-Shabaab pledged a formal allegiance to bin Laden, and the intelligence community is now monitoring jihadist Web sites to see if bin Laden will respond and "officially" bless their relationship, the official said.
In addition, the use of simultaneous attacks and suicide bombings -- the signature of al Qaeda -- has now taken hold in Somalia.
In October last year, a Minneapolis man, Shirwa Ahmed, became the first known American suicide bomber, according to the FBI. Ahmed, who travelled from Minnesota to the training camps of al-Shabaab, is one of nearly two dozen men from the United States who authorities believe joined the group.
The FBI is currently investigating another man, an 18-year-old from Seattle, who may be the second documented case of an American suicide bomber. Investigators are comparing the man's DNA with remains from an attack in the Somali capital last month.
In early September, FOX News exclusively identified the American mouthpiece for al-Shabaab as a native of Daphne, Ala. Born Omar Hammami, the big-eared and bright-eyed teenager now goes by the name Abu Mansour al-Amriki, or simply "The American."...
Hmm. Try to kick out 11 year old Polish girls who have resided in the US for nine years, and whose parents are already US citizens, whilst allowing Somalis in with no questions asked.
And you wonder why the US is in trouble. Go figure!
What is this insanity? Vigilante justice? I, nabi ZK (pbum) am quite sorry gents. There is no room for vigilante justice in the USA. If they commit a crime then let the authorities deal with it. If they wage war then let our military wage war. There is a right way and a wrong way and vigilantism is not the right way. imamerican ... Are you not just a troll? You announce that you are American and then make a stupid statement advocating violence and criminality. Just asking. Fool.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Abu Mansour al-Amriki - The American
It actually means "the Victorious American" but could be interpreted as al-Manure Amriki or "the Smelly American" or "Shitty American".
Why don't we cut off all the perks for the Somali workers, in factories here, as punishment. Like their five times a day breaks for prayers, and foot baths, and halal.
Make working conditions just like ours.
Spirit of 1683, I read a few months ago about a Liberian Christian minister who was going to be sent back to his home country with his wife and four kids a few months ago, despite the fact that he had become a preacher at an American church and his family was pretty much settled down in the US, with jobs and the kids in school, being very responsible and productive members of their community.
So long as those applying for refugee status in the US are mahoundians "fleeing" places where there is nothing for them to run away from to begin with (for their home countries are open sewers solely because that's all they can expect from their beloved mahoundianism and, therefore, that makes their applications flat-out bogus however one looks at them), it seems that there simply is no closing the floodgates for such bogus applicants. The task is certainly a lot harder now due to Buraq Hussein's plans for making the US "one of the largest mahoundian open-sewers in the world."
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It was never just about Somalia. Somalia was just the initial, local expression of a global agenda that is the underlying factor in jihadist conflicts from Chechnya to Thailand: The intent of imposing Islamic law, everywhere. That is the ultimate aim of jihad.
And dealing with that threat, now that using positive expressions from a mahoundian perspective, such as jihad, mujahideen, fedayeen and you-name-it is absolutely forbidden by the politically-correct guidelines on discussing mahoundianism put in place by Bush and made more suicidal by Buraq Hussein, has been made even harder than it's always been since the foundation of the filthy inbred bedouin savage supremacist cult from the child molesters of the Arabian Peninsula.
By comparison, mahoundians aren't bound by such "niceties" regarding the West, and never will be. They'll never stop referring to civilization as Dar al-Harb, or calling human beings (a status they do not enjoy) as the "filthy kufr." No such constraints will ever be imposed upon them to hinder their efforts to mahoundianize/opensewerize the entire planet.
Official statement from The Director of The US Dept. of Homeland Insecurity, Officer Barbrady:
What Somali Jihadists ?
There's no Somali Jihadists in The USA.
None whatsoever.
They're all peace-loving people.
Nothing to see here. Move on you Lookie Lou's.
/snark
Kenny Solomon
Senior Expediter,
The 72 Virgins Club Travel Agency.
I agree with the good Nabi ZK -- hence some deletions above.
The Somalis have moved in , established Muslim strongholds and created Muslim gangs that now roam the streets in several cities, robbing, mugging, raping, vandalizing, intimidating, threatening, and generally doing all those things that rise when Islam moves into your neighborhood...and as Muslim history shows, when this occurs it only gets worse...much worse. They never bring much in the way of normal values that we have learned in our lifetimes..It is not a stretch of imagination to see that dangerous Somali induced violence is not far down the road...They are already here and you can believe they are plotting and preparing...when they feel the time is ready, they will act and then police forces all across the nation will be tied down with trying to control the riots...they could easily be overwhelmed by shear numbers alone..
Who are you going to call? and who will you blame?
Somali jihadists could launch attacks inside U.S.
Actually any jihadist could, would, and have launched attacks inside the US. Allah told them to do it...He wrote about it extensively in his book...His messenger provides examples of conduct...Jihad is NOT an elective...Somali's are not alone...They all march to the same drummer...Allah willing...and he always is...
Americans have only to thank their corrupt, timid, vote-hungry politicians and parties for opening the flood-gates to any and every-one, except legitimate and deserving immigrants.
Readers will remember James Ziglar given standing orders to NOT enforce any immigration laws, while Bush went one step further and prosecuted Border-patrol agents, granting immunity to Mexican drug-dealer, in doing so. Showa which side of America, American politicians are on....
As for Jihadist immigration, read how INS grants visas to Saudis, specially the 9/11 hijackers: http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/staff_statement_1.pdf
Also, analysis of the same by Joel Mobray: http://www.nationalreview.com/mowbray/mowbray100902.asp
On a side note, Tom Tancredo, R-Co, who ran for presidency, did not even get GOP nomination, while Juan 'The Islam' McCain carried out his show at the cost of GOP voters.
America's 'gift' to itself:
"Resettlement counselors who work with Somali Bantus say many had never flushed a toilet, flicked a light switch, watched a TV, talked on a telephone, cooked on a stove, ridden in a car, held a pen, used a fork, seen a two-story building or written or read their own language.... some Bantus had gotten stuck in a room at an orientation session because they didn't know how to turn the doorknob."
They know how to kill, rape, cheat, steal and plunder. After all, its their religion.
To anyone with even the tiniest bit of brain, this should not be a problem. They came here claiming refugee status, the usual bollocks about fear and persecution and danger. By voluntarily returning they have proven that their refugee claims are bogus and they should never be allowed back in the country.
The problem is, they have infiltrated our law enforcement agencies and used political correctness to intimidate our law enforcement officials, so there is a lot of choking going on when it comes to how to deal with the Muslim criminal mind at work. A great big bottle of courage pills and back up from supervisors and higher management is needed.
Are Somalian Muslims really so valuable to the chicken plucking sector of our society that we are willing to take a chance on letting them in to destroy us? It's time to let our elected officials know (along with everything else) that we'd rather be safe than sorry and Somalian Muslims aren't welcome in our country anymore. Period.
Today some Somalis will be celebrating "Day of the Rangers"
Battle of Mogadishu Oct.3-4, 1993
RIP
I have seen Christians from Islamic countries that came to the US to escape death threats from Islamic militants for preaching detained by immigration officers when they arrived for their asylum hearing, their families roughed up and imprisoned on trumped up charges when they threatened to complain about the abuse. The poor young man that I speak of (as a not atypical example) was put in a prison with hardcore criminals with known consequences. The rabid hunt for Middle Eastern and other Christians escaping Islamic death threats is shameful. To add insult to injury, Islamic hordes seething with hatred and hell-bent on shedding kefir blood are welcomed with open arms in tone of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, since 911.
Although I have a great love for the US, I have come to despise its evil bureaucracy that has perpetrated such evil against the most defenseless and harmless of people who came to shelter under the wings of the American eagle while filling the country with droves of hatful, ungrateful scum of the earth. I have despaired in the U.S. government and the majority of my follow countrymen that I cannot believe that I would react with the same sorrow, indignation and resolve to do all in my power to assist the fight if another outrage such as 911 was perpetrated.
The sum of all fears has come to pass, the government, whatever political corner it comes from, has failed and will fail to define the threat and combat it. Most Americans are too intellectually or morally deficient to even see the threat, much less combat it. The signs of civilizational decline and the foul stench of the rot of morals and values choke the very air around the obese senile lady that was once the light of the world.
"Resettlement counselors who work with Somali Bantus say many had never flushed a toilet, flicked a light switch, watched a TV, talked on a telephone, cooked on a stove, ridden in a car, held a pen, used a fork, seen a two-story building or written or read their own language.... some Bantus had gotten stuck in a room at an orientation session because they didn't know how to turn the doorknob."
They know how to kill, rape, cheat, steal and plunder. After all, its their religion. - Posted by Poetcomic1.
That just about summed up everything about those savages. If it weren't for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Somalia would never have contributed any good whatsoever to this world.
zonie kafir, if you were referring to my (now deleted) comment, I wasn't advocating vigilante justice: I was rhetorically pointing out that its absence belies the bluster of those who say "if those Muslims tried that in my neck of the woods here in the good ol' USA, we have the 2nd amendment and they would be in for a rude surprise" -- or some variation on that theme. That said, I'm not sure that the abstract principle of an absolutist rejection of vigilantism is necessarily a good thing. When there are outrages against a society and the authorities are insufficiently handling those outrages, perhaps it's a sign of poor health in that society when all its members do nothing about those outrages.
Hesperado. No the nabi meant to point out the troll "imamerican" who wanted to play off your comment and spin it in a way that makes us look like redneck barbarians. imamerican is really anti-american. Didn't want the little troll to get away with that. Had to all him out.
nabi ZK (pbum)
ah ok nabi, I didn't see his comment.
ah ok nabi, I didn't see his comment.
@ seeteufel | October 3, 2009 9:20 AM | Reply
To anyone with even the tiniest bit of brain, this should not be a problem. They came here claiming refugee status, the usual bollocks about fear and persecution and danger. By voluntarily returning they have proven that their refugee claims are bogus and they should never be allowed back in the country.
Absolutely, problem solved. They come here under pretense of 'persecution' but return to their homeland of 'persecution' closes the door to re-entry into the USA, or any civilized country, plus a fine to pay for return airfare. They lie, they pay, and get out. Nuff said.
@ seeteufel | October 3, 2009 9:20 AM | Reply
To anyone with even the tiniest bit of brain, this should not be a problem. They came here claiming refugee status, the usual bollocks about fear and persecution and danger. By voluntarily returning they have proven that their refugee claims are bogus and they should never be allowed back in the country.
Absolutely, roblem solved. They come here under pretense of 'persecution' but return to their homeland of 'persecution' closes the door to re-entry into the USA, or any civilized country, plus a fine to pay for return airfare. They lie, they pay, and get out. Nuff said.
Send all Muslims back to Islamic world. The jobs they have will go to Americans. No more muslims cab drivers, doctors, politicians, NOTHING. ALL WANT TO KILL US IF THEY BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD AND THE LAST DAY AS THEY SAY. WELL THEY PLAN TO MAKE TODAY OUR LAST DAY. BEWARE.
AMERICANS WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CALL RADIO, TV, NEIGHBORS, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS.
JESUS NEVER SAID CHRISTIANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. CRUSADES CAME AFTER MUSLIMS HAVE COMPLETED THEIR CRUSADES ON THE ARAB CHRISTIANS AND POPE URBAN SENT AN ARMY.
DEFEND OUR TROOPS. EITHER FIGHT THE MUSLIMS OR BRING THEM HOME AND DEFEND AMERICA AT HOME FROM MUSLIMS IMMIGRANTS. SEND TBEIR MAMAS BACK HOME WITH THEM.