"After his death, at least 50 youths took to the streets and started to break windows at the entrance of Gabelle, an outskirt of the city. The youths also burned garbage, tires, a motorcycle and five vehicles in a shipyard, said the police. When the Police and the fire-fighters arrived on the scène, protesters threw stones and Molotov cocktails against them. Then, the police retaliate by firing tear gas but it was unable to enter into Gabelle."
Think about that last sentence for a minute.
"France/Civil unrest: clashes erupted in Fréjus after a young man killed himself," from ESISC, October 26 (thanks to Bill):
Violent clashes erupted late on Sunday in the town of Fréjus (south of France) after Mohamed El Matari, a 21 years-old Moroccan national, living in the city killed himself while he was trying to steer clear of a roadblock. According to Simon Babri, the chief of staff of the Prefect, "initially, at 17h30, the young man turned back to avoid a roadblock at the entrance of Fréjus and he fled. He tried to bypass a second roadblock and by driving on the bottom side of the road it hit a tree".After his death, at least 50 youths took to the streets and started to break windows at the entrance of Gabelle, an outskirt of the city. The youths also burned garbage, tires, a motorcycle and five vehicles in a shipyard, said the police. When the Police and the fire-fighters arrived on the scène, protesters threw stones and Molotov cocktails against them. Then, the police retaliate by firing tear gas but it was unable to enter into Gabelle.
No wounded have been reported during the incidents. According to a statement published by the prefecture of the Var region, "at midnight the police were able to take position inside the area and to restore calm." However, police stay in the area during the night to prevent any other incidents.
From the article ..."but it was unable to enter into Gabelle."
This is awkwardly worded - but if it means, as it seems to mean, that the Mohammedans defended their beachhead, or colony, strongly enough to prevent the French police from entering, then...time to use overwhelming force. Time to send in the Army.
"Then, the police retaliate by firing tear gas but it was unable to enter into Gabelle." ...feckless French police!
This kind of phenomenon will just continue recurring. In the future, we'll see such violence over a multitude of reasons, such as disaffection over election results in which Muslims do not fare well, foreign policy decisions that are antithetical to Muslim interests abroad, and anything, ANYTHING, that remotely offends Islamic religious sensibilities.
In other words, the infamous "Arab street" has become an integral part of Europe.
As for the money quote about the police unable to enter Gabelle, at what point will Europeans admit that their Muslim immigrants are now SETTLERS?
Who are these "youth" that took to the streets rioting? Pierre, Jean_Claude, Jacques, or Henri? The shameless press in France, as elsewhere, don't have the guts to say "muslim youth". It is really tragic that press everywhere, including the one in my country, shies away from identifying the real culprit: Islam. I really don't understand why the press bows to muslims while hammering other religious groups. Looks like Eurabia is here and Europe has done it to itself.
The French authorities should not accept any part of France being inacessible to authorities. It is time for President Sarkosy to take action. Also,referring to a 21 year Muslim male as a youth, is an absurdity
Bottom line is them or us! To be continued...............
Cornelius,
In other words, the infamous "Arab street" has become an integral part of Europe.
And eventually it must become the other way round.
Years ago I often heard well-meaning idiots criticising all decisive Western position vis a vis anything islamic for the fear of making the "Arab street" explode. I would always reply that the exploding Arab street is good for the West as long as the Arab street is safely in some Arabistan. But if we constantly censor our reaction to mohammedan antics for fear of offending the Arab street we, one day, must wake up living on perenially exploding Arab street.
It seems that the only way for France to save itself is a military coupe d'etat aimed at stopping and reversing the spread of Islam by ANY means posssible including removal of moslems from her midst followed by the fun part of punishing the traitors.
Impossible?
What is your opinion?
"He tried to bypass a second roadblock and by driving on the bottom side of the road it hit a tree"
Allah willed it.
So why the fuss, Mohammedans?
"The youths also burned garbage, tires, a motorcycle and five vehicles in a shipyard, said the police. When the Police and the fire-fighters arrived on the scène, protesters threw stones and Molotov cocktails against them."
Surely a sign of the future...France is becoming North Gaza...a massive Islamic ghetto full of violent Muslims....who will attack and who will ultimately resort to rioting and killing for any reason...just like the Palistinians...Allah has big plans for his minions..likewise Allah has big plans for the dhimmis...
Thomas,
Very unlikely. Europeans have lost their identity; it's hard to imagine they will suddenly awaken and reclaim it.
This is why I find Hesperado's timetable for a European civil war so implausible (he claims it'll happen 50 years from now, when Muslims have a near majority). If the natives are over-accommodating to the newcomers NOW, while they still retain a comfortable majority, I expect their dhimmitude to become absolutely craven as the demographic tide turns against them. Today, their fear is the ugly accusation of racism; tomorrow, it'll be the fear of death by the mullah-led frenzied mob (the same fear that for 1400 years has checked Muslim behavior throughout Darul Islam).
No friend, I don't see the military coup or any other extraordinary gambit for self-preservation on the horizon. Europe is destined to go out with a whimper, not a bang.
Thomas,
Very unlikely. Europeans have lost their identity; it's hard to imagine they will suddenly awaken and reclaim it.
This is why I find Hesperado's timetable for a European civil war so implausible (he claims it'll happen 50 years from now, when Muslims have a near majority). If the natives are over-accommodating to the newcomers NOW, while they still retain a comfortable majority, I expect their dhimmitude to become absolutely craven as the demographic tide turns against them. Today, their fear is the ugly accusation of racism; tomorrow, it'll be the fear of death by the mullah-led frenzied mob (the same fear that for 1400 years has checked Muslim and dhimmi behavior throughout Darul Islam).
No friend, I don't see the military coup or any other extraordinary gambit for self-preservation on the horizon. Europe is destined to go out with a whimper, not a bang.
There seems to be a mistake in the report, which suggests the man who died was driving; implying a car. But other reports suggest he was riding a motorcycle. A trial bike with no numberplate in one report.
Paris Match has the story here:
http://www.parismatch.com/Actu-Match/Societe/Actu/Mort-d-un-motard-Frejus-s-embrase-139427/
If anyone can help out my rusty French with a translation it would be appreciated.
Well, we shall see, we shall see.It will be interesting to see what goes on in the end.While it is true that the left has allied with Islam everywhere, becuase the left is so anti system, more a punk movement than any other thing now.Except well, the "caviar left" that is in charge now.
But, i was saying, we will see.In Spain we are getting at the same time all this Latin inmigration ....from all over central and south america, and you know, just how bad these latinos are...quite violent and how they despise Islam.Down the street where i live there is this bar run by colombians, they like to place tramps for the "moritos" leaving a bag unattended and when the casual "moro" appears and sits by the bag and then grabs it and runs away, imagine what happens next, all those colombians after him.
Here in Spain it will be very chaotic when the war starts.
"clashes erupted in Fréjus after a young man killed himself"
It's obvious that the young man was of some importance to the French, I mean Muslim youth.
1. Was he wanted in connection with a crime? Or did he just have a guilt conscience?
2. Perhaps he was carrying a load of heroine or even weapons for distribution and the youths were upset when they saw their investment going down the ditch. And perhaps that was the rescue operation. Violence would be a great distraction to get what you want from the vehicle.
Something just doesn't smell right with that story.
Where's Inspector Jacques Clouseu when you need him, eh?
"Mohamed El Matari, a 21 years-old Moroccan national, living in the city killed himself while he was trying to steer clear of a roadblock"
And Muslims are rioting because..................?
Oh, I forgot, rioting is normal behavior in the ummah.
Other reports on this cite that he was racing an unlicensed dirt bike on public roads, and that his father "disputed" the facts as reported. Note that this guy smacked into a tree while NOT being pursued by police, in full view of everyone, and the police tried to revive him and called in a flight for life helicopter. It's not like he was hale and hearty, arrested by police, and then suddenly turned up dead in police custody. But none of that matters to these goons who will use any pretext to chip away at Dar al-Harb.
Here is a link from Nice Matin, where the guy's brother "rages:" "The police have to tell us what REALLY happened."
Irony alert - the brother's name?? Abdel AZIZ - hmmmmm - sound familiar??? (The Denver-NY jihadi)
http://www.nicematin.com/ra/cotedazur/218942/frejus-la-famille-de-la-victime-conteste-la-version-officielle
Plice are gathering "witness" testimony. Asked one guy - "Why go after a motorcyclist? Yeah, he was breaking the law, but who hasn't done some stupid little thing? He deserved to die for that?" As if the police executed him. His foolishness got him killed. And was racing on an unregistered vehicle his only offense? Color me sceptical - he was running for the stated reason as well as who knows what others.
The word "revenge," used by the "youths" appears in several reports.
Photos of the accident scene:
http://www.nicematin.com/ra/faits-divers/218767/retour-en-images-il-se-tue-en-voulant-eviter-un-controle-de-police-a-frejus
Islam_Macht_Frei,
Frankly, we (we Westerners, including the French government) shouldn't even bother trying to explain such facts to Muslims and their enablers. They are locked into believing their paranoid rumors. And we should become locked into not caring anymore based upon the single-minded focus of extricating them out of our societies.
Hesperado,
No disagreement. But the authorities have to report what happened, and that is not an attempt to placate anyone, it's just getting the truth on record. Actually, while some may be "locked into believing their paranoid rumors," I think it's worse than that - there are many who don't doubt the veracity of the police version, but simply see the opportunity to go into agent-provocateur mode and start breaking and burning. As for extrication - I prefer the term "repatriation." Semantics perhaps...
How about "Don't let the door hit you on the way out"?
"Gabelle"
Connoisseurs will enjoy the toponym, for it was the ancient "gabelle" or tax on salt that, in the history of France, has caused trouble before.
So it goes, from gabelle, to Gabelle.
For more on the gabelle, and especially on the various levels of taxation of salt, depending on region and where, and how, salt was obtained by the inhabitants of that region, see the Wikipedia article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabelle.
Shame. A once beautiful part of France. There is in fact a major military barracks in Frejus
Cornelius,
Europeans have lost their identity; it's hard to imagine they will suddenly awaken and reclaim it.This is why I find Hesperado's timetable for a European civil war so implausible (he claims it'll happen 50 years from now, when Muslims have a near majority).
First, I've never limited my timetable by a definite figure like 50 years; I usually phrase it in such loose terms as at "into the coming decades, possibly in 50 years if not much longer, perhaps within the century"; etc.
Secondly, I've never predicted a Western civil war. While that's possible, I think it's unlikely. I think the most likely scenario is that the PC MC structures will keep hanging tenaciously on as the increasingly outrageous and lethal behavior of Muslims stretches them near to the breaking point, and at some point, the West will recover its rationality to take the unremarkable actions it needs to take to protect itself. While I don't envision civil war, that doesn't mean this process I'm describing will not involve intra-Western violence here and there. PC MC has only enjoyed mainstream dominance for approximately 60 years; rationality in regard to MC has a much richer, deeper, longer, stronger history in the West, and the shocks of alien Islam penetrating deeper into its sociopolitical organism will eventually help loosen and dismantle what will have proven to be essentially superficial and false advances, while retaining the deeper and truer growths of progress.
While this may sound excessively optimistic, it is a near-future scenario that I do not envision happening without horrific casualties and destruction of property on our side.
When faced with rioters, the police shoudl have responded with discharging riot shotguns into the rioters. Result - End of Riot...
While agreeable, that expression is used when someone unwelcome is leaving of their own volition. Would that is were so. But that will never be the case with this cancer I'm afraid. My term implies being escorted away, which is what would have to happen. But I appreciate the sentiment.
Cornelius,
My vision is very different from Hesperado's. I had of a long exchange with Hesperado where I, like you, and precisely for the reasons you briefly mention, dismiss the scenario involving slow incremental growth in European true perception of their dire situation, reawakening of the national, civilizational identity and following it the will to launch the "reconquista". I forgot the name of thread, perhaps Hesperado can help if he happens to read it. Anyway, I have the exchange stashed somewhere in the entrails of my hard disk. I will try to recover it.
But Cornelius I am of course not talking about 50 years from now. That is much realistic as making weather forecast for 27th October 2050.
I am talking about possibility of military overtake in the next 10-15 years during a big scale social crisis, riots and chaos following, for example, breakdown of national economy. In short a situation where different ethnic or cultural groups must compete for food and shelter etc... In short when PC bullsh*t must compete with instinct of physical survival and fear of chaos. Just think of Chile and Pinochet.
The coup I am talking of may succeed because with the slackening of the grip of the PC it will have the popular support (minus moslems who are still a clear minority), especially because it will present itself as the only ALTERNATIVE for a civil war.
Anyway I have to rush now, but I will check later for your possible comment.
Seriously, youth? At what age does a muslim become a man and thereby accountable to his own actions (in this case, death)? If a menstrating girl is considered old enough to be a woman (or at least old enough for some old man to subsequently rape) I would assume the age to lower than 21. I realize they all act like spoiled brats but I don't think it's fair to call a 21 yr. old a youth. This article is only adding more fuel to the muslim arsons (errr, youth).
Darn those Quaker kids. Always causing trouble.
Mess with the law, you could end up dead. Now I know that to the muslims they feel they aren't subject to local law. Well, sometimes local law enforcment see things differently and, well, they have the law to back them up. I know, I know, I'm being too damn particular when it comes to the muslim "yoots," but hey, life isn't fair.
To StephenA55, your translation of that article:
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It all began late Sunday afternoon, when Mohamed El Mathari, a young 21-year resident in the district of Gabelle at Frejus (Var), was killed on a motorcycle trying to escape policeman at a roadblock. As often in this kind of drama involving police, the news has rocked the city, which made things very tense that evening. Forty young people residing in the neighborhood of the victim confronted the security forces preventively deployed on-site where windows were smashed and garbage burned. However, there were no injuries or arrests.
But the calm has not returned yet. On the night of Monday to Tuesday, new clashes erupted. And violence rose a notch. Shortly after 8:00 pm, a patrol of the anti-crime brigade was pelted with stones and other projectiles and improvised Molotov cocktails. As before, garbage cans and cars were burned. Two people were arrested in possession of bottles of flammable liquids. Fortunately, calm returned about two hours later, before the clashes had escalated further. But four people have still been slightly injured and it was necessary to bring in a helicopter of the National Gendarmerie with riot gear and to use tear gas to get the angry crowd to disperse. The atmosphere remains very tense.
The family and relatives of Mohamed El Mathari dispute the version of events supplied by the police. The General Inspectorate of the National Police (IGPN) was handling the case referred by the prosecutor of Draguignan (town). According to preliminary results of the investigation, the young man not known to police, showed up Sunday at court and left on his motocross (250 cc) not registered or licensed for use on public roads. He "initially turned back to avoid a roadblock," and "attempting to circumvent a second roadblock by using the side of the road, struck a tree." "There was no chase, there was no use of weapons, there had been no contact between the police vehicle and the motorcycle of the victim. He drove on the side of the road to escape control and struck a pine tree." It was an accident, said yesterday the deputy prosecutor Philippe Guemas.
But a brother of the deceased, Aziz El Mathari says in a written statement that "the LAC [anti-crime brigade] was observed making the stop, that they blocked the road and [that] Muhammad was unable to react and could not avoid the tree. "We have witnesses" who confirmed that he was struck by the police before he fell from his bike." insists one of his cousins, Brahim. An autopsy will be performed Monday on the body of the victim, and the officers involved with the witnesses will be heard by IGPN investigators. Four brothers of Mohamed have also been met yesterday by Attorney Philip Guemas who wanted to assure them that the investigation would spare no evidence and no case.
Mediators have talked to the victim's family and appealed for calm to avoid escalating the conflict, a call which has been repeated by the imam of the city. The family also urged the police not to redeploy the security forces to prevent any sense of provocation. But after the arrest of the other two young men picked up by the police, some 140 riot police still remain on site. The family said they had "hired a lawyer to help ascertain the truth" and today it would conduct a "silent march to the Frejus police commissioner's office to discuss the force's departmental policies."
Over and Out, I hope this helps you.
Hesp,
My reference to your prediction of a "European civil war" was of the infidel-Muslim variety. I still believe you need a rethink, both in your "epiphany" that the reconstitution of the Caliphate will be a good thing, and that Europeans will grow bolder in the ensuing decades when their position becomes more tenuous. I happen to think the reverse, that they will become more dhimmified.
Thomas,
I don't relish the death of democracy in Europe. If it occurs, it will likely occur as it currently is, from above, slowly. The ideal solution, implausible as it may be, would be a cultural awakening of Center-Right parties, their subsequent victory at the polls, and then a reversal of Europe's suicidal immigration policies.
But as I previously wrote, it's not at all likely; In my humble opinion, Europe is a goner.
A glimpse into the bloody future of Europe. We root the Muslims out or they behead us when they take over.
A majority presence is not necessary.
Taken literally, they just need to reach 9.111% of the population.
I don't relish the death of democracy in Europe.
Neither do I. Besides, something which is already dead can not die. Democracy has died slow death in Europe in tact with gradual transfer of European peoples sovereignty to the EU “Parliament”, which, among other things, works for the creation of Eurabia – a perspective very unpopular with the European peoples.
So, if popular consensus is essential condition for democracy then I have no doubt that a military coup aimed at restoring national sovereignty and ending the Moslem overtake of the continent will have much more popular support than existing now regime. In this sense, at least, a military take over will be more like resuscitation of democracy than its funeral. Once again, the necessary condition for coup to start is social cataclysm, or a threat of one, followed by the breakdown of social order, collapse of economy and threat to a physical survival of an individual. In such a climate the PC power over minds and hearts of people will wither to nothing. almost instantaneously. Freed from its paralyzing spell the vast majority would line up behind those who dare to take responsibility and have audacity and confidence to act and accept the consequence. They will be loved.
Whether Europe is a goner is still too early to say. For Europe to have a chance to continue as Europe and not Eurabia the EU must be destroyed. And that can only happen if the EU doesn’t deliver on its promise of bread and circus. The sooner its bankruptcy happens the more chance for Europe’s rebirth. A collapse of EU 50 years from now may be too late to reverse the islamization of Europe without a full scale civil war.
“ The ideal solution, implausible as it may be, would be a cultural awakening of Center-Right parties, their subsequent victory at the polls, and then a reversal of Europe's suicidal immigration policies.”
If by awakening you mean a sudden realization that Europe is on its way to become Eurabia, I can’t conceive of anyone in the leadership of Center-Right parties unaware of the inevitability of the development – especially when the leaders of Europe, (for example Sarkozy), openly say that the destiny of Europe is Islamic. The cat has been out of the sack for very long without center right parties ever daring to suggest stopping and reversing the Moslem immigration. Why would they suddenly decide to open their mouth?
Look at the BNP. They are fully “awakened”, but they are far from the “victory at the polls”.
Clearly the result of the the illegal French occupation of the palestinian territory in Gabelle.
Obviously, the UN needs to set up an agency to provide services to these oppressed peoples.
Perhaps the EU could setup a fund to mitigate the negative impacts of the innumerable traumas suffered daily by these poor unfortunate souls.
Ask yourself what you can contribute today so that someday the muslims of Gabelle can walk the their streets without being insulted by any sensory impression of the disgusting french Jahiliyyah.
Thomas,
You're right about the Center-Right parties...as I wrote, the scenario is "implausible".
Meanwhile, keep in mind that a military coup amid a breakdown in public order doesn't automatically imply a subsequent repudiation of dhimmitude.
Clearly the result of the the illegal French occupation of the palestinian territory in Gabelle.
Obviously, the UN needs to set up an agency to provide services to these oppressed peoples.
Perhaps the EU could setup a fund to mitigate the negative impacts of the innumerable traumas suffered daily by these poor unfortunate souls.
Ask yourself what you can contribute today so that someday the muslims of Gabelle can walk the their streets without being insulted by any sensory impression of the disgusting french Jahiliyyah.