Previously he had said that he would not do so until the family's immigration status was cleared up, and that wasn't going to happen -- given Pamela Geller's discovery that the family was here illegally. And despite the clear threat relayed by the girl and incompetently handled by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and you can see here. Now apparently none of that matters. The gods of political correctness must be appeased. And if a girl is killed? So what?
"Judge orders Fathima Rifqa Bary to return to Ohio," by Amy L. Edwards for the Orlando Sentinel, October 23 (thanks to Pamela, who has much more here):
An Orange County judge has ordered the Florida Department of Children and Families to make arrangements to send Ohio teen runaway Fathima Rifqa Bary back to her home state.A DCF spokeswoman just confirmed her agency received an order from Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson.
"This order indicates that the Court has relinquished its emergency jurisdiction and orders the Department to arrange the transportation of the child to the proper authorities with Franklin County Children Services in Ohio," spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said.
"The Department will proceed with those arrangements. Please understand that the details of the transfer will not be released, to best ensure her safety."...
Rifqa's father, Mohamed Bary, was laughing and giddy during a brief Friday afternoon phone call with the Orlando Sentinel. He would not comment, though, citing a gag order.
Anyone care for this girls life?
If you do, email Glen Beck, or Fox Friends and ask them to keep tabs on her. She's safe as long as she is in the public eye.
Email to: friends@foxnews.com
If she is returned to her family and she refuses to convert back to Islam she will either be (1) killed by her father and brother, or (2) killed by someone else in the local Muslim community, or (3) forced to return to Bangladesh and marry a Muslim man that can easily beat her to death or kill her for not converting back to Islam, or (4) forced to return to Bangladesh and then be placed in a mental institution (drugs, beatings, and death).
I am disgusted that this is happening in America.
"The Department will proceed with those arrangements. Please understand that the details of the transfer will not be released, to best ensure her safety."...
LOL...her safety? What is wrong with these bungling idiots. On one hand she'll be fine but they fear for her safety? Unbelievable...hopefully she'll be able to stay alive until 18.
This story breaks my heart.
Very disheartening news. It's especially sad for Rifqa now to be delivered into the tender mercies her family after all the support she has received from those who would protect her from almost certain harm that she will now be exposed to. It is outrageous that our judicial system continues to turn a blind eye to honor killings. You addressed honor killings in your Fox and Friends interview, Robert, even mentioning Rifqa Bary. It's too bad that you were not able to comment on this outrageous decision by Florida in regard to her case.
I hope that, somehow, a network of friends in Ohio springs up to create a shield to protect Rifqa from her family and the local mosque, which must even now just be itching for retribution. Our prayers go out to this girl.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali must be aware of this case. Does anyone know if she has commented on it?
Why's everyone so glum sounding? If she was smart enough to run away the first time, then she's likely smart enough to run away again before they send her back, or even en route.
Or if she can't do that, threaten to kill herself and get her locked away from them until she's 18 and can get away from them legally.
For the record, Rifqa and her family are from Sri Lanka, but otherwise you're spot on. And there is, indeed, danger that she could be returned to Sri Lanka, as her father appears to be an illegal alien and could be deported, and Rifqa with him. This is a very sad case.
Pamela Geller has the most recent info about this over at Atlas Shrugs, including links to the Orlando Sentinel about the case. The Sentinel, and in particular one of its writers, Amy L. Edwards, seems to be using this case in a campaign to mock and demonize conservative Christianity. The evidence for this is their posting a YouTube clip at the head of their articles containing a voice interview of Rifqa by a Christian radio minister, in which Rifqa tells her story of how she came to convert from Islam to Christianity. She describes it in a way one would expect her to when speaking to a Christian minister, whose job it is to help new converts to the faith. It is clear that by posting this clip the Sentinel is holding up conservative Christianity to ridicule.
The Sentinel should be ashamed of their position in treating Rifqa as a pawn in the larger game they appear to be playing to discredit conservative culture. One looks forward to the day when the Sentinel either undergoes a change in ownership, or the cultural idiots who make their editorial policies are replaced, along with their writers, or the paper simply crumbles along with the rest of the LMSM (Leftist Mainstream Media).
Heartbreaking....and infuriating!
There are more than a couple of people who will be responsible should anything happen to Rifqa, and that includes not just her parents and the Florida and Ohio juvenile court-sytems, but members of the media who abetted this monstrosity, including Charles Johnson, who has cynically dismissed the dangers posed to Ms Bary.
Judge Dawson seemed like a reasonable judge, but he clearly did not appreciate the danger the Rifka is in. I agree with BillR - the spotlight must be kept on Rifka. So long as the public is paying attention, she stands a chance of escaping from her family and community.
Roaches scatter when the lights are on.
As for her being "safe" if in the public eye - yeah, but what if she had an unfortunate .... "accident" or if she "ran away" again, only this time w/o ever resurfacing??? After all, she has a history of running away dontchaknow?
Guys:
Poor young woman. American judges are morons. I have complete distain for the American justice system (while respecting the law) because it is manned unwise buffoons and evil people. I have seen friends who sought asylum jailed with hardened criminal bending their immigration status. One was a Christian missionary escaping murder by the Jamaa Islamia and others were deported back after being ran out of Egypt for simply being Christians with nothing for them to return to, except the abuse and the destroyed life. I feel that the poor young woman is now just a statistic in a long list of innocents twice victimized, once by the Jihadists and another by American judges. At least, Jihadists are acting on their established and deeply held principles, but what are American judges acting on? They are the accomplices in the crimes perpetrated on the innocent people they sent back to the bosom of the beast.
I've written Fox Friends. Won't paste my letter here, for the impact is greater if each of us writes an original letter - and it's pretty easy to do.
For Ayaan Hirsi Ali, it's been pretty quiet for a while now. She's running the AHA Foundation (http://www.theahafoundation.org), where she follows cases like this. I don't see this one mentioned, though. Making her aware of it (info@theahafoundation.org) would probably be good.
Guys:
Do not count on her getting away when she turns 18. Once she is in the belly of the beast, there is no return. In Egypt and several other Muslim states, they kidnap, drug, rape and torture grown Christian women and when they produced before deputy attorney general, they are too broken and programmed to say anything outside the script that was drilled into them. Give them a sane, average man and let them work on them for a few months and he will say that his name is Fatima and he loves Allah and the prophet and his new husband Abdullah. I am not kidding folks. They know how to break people and how to press their buttons. The poor girl has got no prayer in Hades. If there is indeed a god who she serves, let him show himself now.
I think I understand why the Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson decided to return the Rifqa to her parents. If you change all of the facts around so that it read 'Child runs away to join cult' then we would all be up in arms protesting her return (I would hope).
I still feel uneasy in all of the because it's not just any old religion she's abandoned. Everyone on this board, molsem apologists included knows what the typical outcome will be.
Rifqa Bary ain't dead yet. She ain't deported yet and she ain't married off to no worshiper of 'ulluh-hu qWahksmoor'. I DO know some of the wonderful people of the beautiful State of Florida and I DO know some of the wonderful people of the beautiful State of Ohio. STAY IN PRAYER for this precious child and contact your friends in BOTH States. Get THEM to harass their representatives. NEVER give up! And YES, DO keep the public spotlight on this case. It ain't over yet. I ain't heard no fat lady singin' but you and me DO need to get off our butts....
Wonderin1
When is her 18th birthday? Hide out with the Florida Christian group for a few months and then tell everyone to f@#k off!
nondhimmidude - I believe Rifqa turned 17 while in Florida, shortly after running away.
Well, no, even if this were "child runs away to join cult," and the other facts were the same, we _wouldn't_ be yelling for her to be sent back. She's living in foster care in Florida, where she wants to be. So she is willing just to live with an "ordinary" family, not a member of the particular denomination she is a part of, a family vetted by the DCF of Florida, just in order to be away from her own family. That says something right there. Moreover, she alleges repeated abuse and beating from her father, which is totally independent of the credibility or otherwise of the particular brand of Christianity she "ran off to join." These allegations are exactly the sorts of things that _routinely_ are grounds for keeping children in foster care. Next, there is her plausible allegation that her parents said they would take her back to Sri Lanka to "deal with" her, which is a real issue and threat independently of anything else and which is perfectly likely to happen if she is returned to them, especially since they are here illegally. Finally, what about that whole "rule of law" thing? The parents defied a court order to produce their immigration papers. The Florida judge said he would not send her back to Ohio until they complied, and even the Ohio judge _backed him up on this_. Now that appears to be all out the window. That's not right, especially given the relevance of the immigration issue to what might happen to her later.
So the whole "imagine this is some other religion" thing just doesn't go very far. At all.
Run, Rifqa, Run!
Occupant: I think she actually turned 17 prior to running away by a little bit, but you are correct that she has the better part of a year to wait until her 18th birthday. I am bit surprised that her lawyer has not sought asylum for her. It seems that he could be doing more than he is. Emancipation is not an option in either Florida or Ohio, but I have not seen a credible reason why asylum should be denied. Religious persecution?, oh yeah!
According to Rifqa, long before her parents confronted her about the news of her conversion to Christianity, they had planned all along to eventually take her back to Sri Lanka for an arranged marriage to a Muslim. Rifqa states that they heard, from someone from the Noor center, of her conversion to Christianity, and that's when they had their angry reaction. Rifqa states that when her father was enraged and threatened to kill her, she was only able to calm him down by saying that she wanted to learn more about Islam. (Interesting, in light of Quran 4:89-91 and 9:5-6). This was probably the only thing that bought her some time, and she escaped not long (within a day or two, I think) after that.
Rifqa faces not one threat, but several threats, specifically due to Islam or cultural traditions associated with it:
-She may be killed, imprisoned, tortured, persecuted for
(1) publicly leaving Islam,
(2) evangelizing and encouraging others to leave Islam,
(3) criticizing Islam,
(4) "sedition" and "corruption on earth" by causing a negative controversy or fitnah, and an annoyance, for Muslims and Islam.
And due to the cultural traditions that her parents reportedly intend to impose upon her, she may be forced into an arranged marriage, and may be killed or persecuted for leaving it.
One can only hope that the publicity around this case will keep her safe. For a while. If they all get deported, all bets are off.
Growing up in Mumbai (Bombay), I had a friend who ran away from home to marry an army officer.
She didn't really care much for him initially, but that was the only way she could escape her murderous brothers as she would be safer living in the army cantonments (mini secure cities) than as a civilian.
No prizes for guessing her initial religion. Two decades later, she's alive and safe under a new name (and religion) with a caring family of her own.
Judge, judge, judge. What for? These propped up administrators of justice are most often pompous fools impressed with their own stupidity. They can't see beyond their ignorance. We can only hope for a miracle of devine intervention!
I oncw worked as a clerk in a courtroom. From my experience I know that lower court judges are very afraid of being reversed by higher courts. They rarely venture far from precedent. Don't be too hard on the judge. This is a hellish situation. I am fighting back tears and rage. I might try to contact people in Ohio to see if there is any protests planned for there. God bless and keep Rifqa.
And that is why, for the fifteen years I lived in Orlando the Sentinel Star was popularly known as The Slantenal Star.
I fervently hope that in the event that Rifqa Bary IS harmed by her father or anyone else in the Muslim community, or sent out of the country by her "daddy" to be persecuted or killed, those who have been complicit in her (G-d forbid) death, get the justice THEY deserve, whether it be a judge or a newspaper.
Consider the case in Peoria AZ where a young adult Muslim girl and her female friend were just run over by the young girls FATHER in a parking lot for not being a good Muslim, one would think our judges would protect Rifqa. Unfortunately, her story is not the only one of this kind, and not enough is being done to prevent such occurrences.
Keep up the good work all, and if anyone here knows how we can help to keep her alive, pass the word. BTW, how do I send articles to JW for review?
Larry
What's so hard for people to understand that Islam brings nothing but violence, lawlessness, and various assorted troubles to the table. They want to escape from the crappy conditions they live in, so they come here and try to crap up our system like Islam crapped up their lives. Thankfully, the barbarians are only at the gate and it's not too late yet to slam it shut and lock it.
It's time to 'just say no' to Islam in the US by exclusion and deportation of its practitioners. There are a myriad of examples of what Islam has done to other Western Nations, we're not exclusive to this process. It's time for this namby-pamby trying to "understand" the Moslem and time to start doing some 'neck-smiting' of our own. Our way and their way will be forever at odds until one or the other is destroyed. I pray that OUR way will prevail. The government clearly won't help so it's up to us, the citizenry, to keep our country an Islam-free zone.
When is this girl going to turn eighteen (18)?
Mohammad Bary doesn't deserve Rikfa. If she ever moves to Canada I would be happy to be her mentor and guardian.
Mohammad Bary doesn't deserve her...
Perhaps rotating camps should be set up at her forced residence to keep a careful watch on Rikfa. Another suggestion is to implant a GPS device and keep her at all times by Social Services. Maybe that's too extreme... If Rikfa complains to Social Services, Mohammad Rikfa may lose custody and her life would be safer for a while till she turns 18. Remember Rikfa's words... "You people don't understand!", while she was interviewed by the news media. She must remain safe at all times from muslim thugs... Ah! what's the use? We lost because of prevailing political correctness. Remember the flying imams? We lost too...
"Rifqa's father, Mohamed Bary, was laughing and giddy during a brief Friday afternoon phone call with the Orlando Sentinel."
Rifqa is scared to death of her father , hates his guts, and yet this makes the old man as happy as a lark? ..whatta weird response. Or is it? Everything is backwards and weird when it comes to Mohammedans ...lordie.
America - the Land of Freedom and Opportunity... except if you're an ex-Muslim.
Will the President stick-up for his fellow convert to Christianity??
He will not. He (Hussein) is a muslim in disguise!
Dear Robert,
I just listened to the audio of Rifqa's interview of August 24 this year. It was heartbreaking, and I could cry just remembering how trusting she was and thought they would help her. I suggest that you and Pamela Geller and her other supporters make indefinitely available audio clips, such as her plaintive question "What in the world is gonna happen to me?" and her thanking her interviewers. What struck me was how many times she referenced people to contact to verify her story. There were dozens. How many were contacted? Take the cheerleading photo for example, which proves nothing in any case because who knows when or how it was acquired and, especially, whether it was on display before she fled. (I believe the FDLE report cited that as some kind of evidence against her.) She said her family did not buy school yearbooks,in which case such a photo would have been an out of the usual item. In the PR video the parents did I don't remember a school photo of her older brother or both brothers, which you might expect if a photo of her was put on display. Is it credible that her mother, who admittedly disapproved of cheerleading,was wiling to see that smiling photo everyday? Anyway, she herself said her father would drive her to practices wearing sweat pants, her mother doesn't drive, and no one in her family ever came to watch a game. "Ask the coaches." Did anyone ask the coaches? Are there any photos of her at the mosque without a head covering?---that would be more relevant to whether her fear that her father would buckle to the expectations at their mosque was real or imaginary. Did anyone locate where and when she received medical attention in the U.S, the stated reason for why the family came? She was held to a standard of proof required of a D.A. prosecuting a criminal case with fact checking being mostly to discount her, and that without a lawyer. Are minors qualified to practice law in Florida? The lies about hitchhiking to the Greyhound station and using her waittressing money for the ticket were to protect the friends who helped her leave, who were being accused of kidnapping her. What about the teacher who said she only knew about her brother Rilvan's parties? Well, that establishes that Rifqa did confide in that teacher. I know Pamela says the teacher changed her story when warned to "stay out of it", which I don't discount. Fear of parties and their sequelae would not move most people to unburden their heart, for after all parties do end at some point. Also, it was her brother's parties and not hers, so it is hard to understand without further disclosure why they would be brought up at all. Sometimes a person will give a presenting problem when the real problem is somethng else that they are too reluctant or fearful to discuss. Rifqa spoke to many people, so that even if that teacher is not giving reconstuctive history, Rifqa may have just gotten people mixed up. She needs all of her witnesses to have a day in court which keeping her own voice public will help to bring about. Marian