Actually this is based on Koran 4:92, which forbids Muslims to kill other Muslims. But Infidels are fair game. "Saudi University Professor Salman Al-Abdali: Suicide Bombings Okay in Tel Aviv, Not in Riyadh," from MEMRITV, October 1 (thanks to Weasel Zippers):
Following are excerpts from an interview with Saudi University professor Salman Al-Abdali, which aired on Iqra TV on October 1, 2009. [...]Someone who blows himself up amidst the enemy is different from someone who blows himself up in a safe place. Blowing oneself up in Tel Aviv is not like blowing oneself up in Riyadh.
Do you feel the love?
Yes the religion of peace which is uniformly shared and understood by the 26 major tribes of Islam among the umma is always on the march to spread the love of Allah too one and all.
We saw the love in Baghdad yesterday, and it is on display in Somalia,Iran,Gaza and the rest of the Palestinian terrortory,If you live in Western Mindanao in the Phillipines you feel the love of Allah. Say you might even feel the Love of Allah on the streets London and the suburb of Luden, or if your in America how about the streets in Jackson Heights, NY.
You know, now that I think of it there so much peace and love out there coming from Islam that I feel like saying; the words of the great intellectual Rodney King --"Can't we all just get along"!
Why are suicide bombings ok anywhere?
Suicide is forbidden.
An act that engaged in intentionally ends in the death of a person by their own hands through their own actions is an act that will put them into hell.
Islam is very clear on this, unfortunately some scholars are bending things, splitting hairs, and stating otherwise...due to the desperation of occupied people? I don't know...the majority of us disagree with this ruling.
Peace
Abdullh
But what if the suicide bombers can't read maps and end up in Riyadh? Boom! They'll be too busy with those 72 virgins, they won't have time to say "I'm sorry."
I wonder, isn't Islam sort of suicide to begin with?
Of the 155 plus that where murdered by Islamists in Baghdad, there where at least 24 school children murdered leaving a day care center.
Do you feel the love and the peace in Islam?
"Suicide is forbidden." - Ab Mik the Convert to Barbaric Islam
LOL! And yet, and yet, and yet...Just LOOK at all those mass-murdering Islamic Barbarians blowing themselves and others up in the "cause of Allah," to "slay and be slain!"
Qur'an 9:111: "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in his cause, and slay and are slain."
Oh yes, suicide is COMMANDED BY ALLAH, THE MASS-MURDERER god that doesn't exist. Who is "allah?" Why, Warlord Mass-Murderer Mohamet, of course! Anyone with half a brain can figure that out. Which, of course, excludes Ab Mik, as he's got a tiny little brain that can hardly figure out Mother Goose.
Here are the Mass-Murderers in the world today: Muslims
Wow, they sure are "misunderstanding" their "religion!"
Islam is NOT a "religion" - it's a 7th century AD Fascist/Nazi ideology that hates everyone but Muslims.
Consider the world without Islam - Good God Jesus - now, THAT'S Paradise.
Jesus - please save us from the Homicidal over-breeding Maniacs called "Muslims."
I have actually heard muslims say they love islam because it is so straight forward, so easy to understand, all the rules laid out for you, how to pray, desss, what to eat, etc. Talk about stifling creativity!!
So many muslims do in fact misunderstand their own quran.
Take AbdullahMikail - sucide is forbiden? You poor pitiful thing. The only sure way that you as a muslim can get to heaven is by verse 9:111- giving up your life to fight for allah.
Why can't allah fight for himself?
AbdullahMikailif you don't kill for allah then you have to trust that you do enough good deeds to out weigh your bad deeds. What about the bad deeds that you don't know about?
As an Infidel, I would have to hold the opposite view.
As a Christan and a Human Being, Neither way is acceptable.
As a Multiculturalist, The Cultural excesses of Islams Family Feud is tolerable.
As a Citizen, Taking a Politically Incorrect opinion may land one in Jail.
As a Jailbird, Singing Islams Praises may get one killed.
The Futures' so bright we'll all need Candles.
...due to the desperation of occupied people?
Please refresh my memory: Who is occupying this 'desperate' Saudi professor's land?
"Blowing oneself up in Tel Aviv is ...."
Is your short term memory refreshed?
Peace
Abdullah
So Tel Aviv is the land of this Saudi professor? Your nabi is confused. Please explain why Tel Aviv is the land of this Saudi. More proper is it to say that Medina is the land of Jews.
Thank you for your consideration.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Muslims have no business in Tel Aviv. You need to get out and go live in a Muslim Crapistan.
Eh, "War and Hate," Ab Mik?
Ah, yes, context once again escapes you both..."this Saudi" isn't adressing "his land."
What situation is the professor dwelling on? "Suicide bombing."
What area is he specifically talking about it occurring in as "okay by him?"
What people do you think he intends this "okay by him" to apply to?
Hmmm? Think real hard... I know the logical lines that should be drawn...but I don't wantoot insult you by over stating the obvious...
But, I do have experience with you and simple logic that escapes you when you want to be cantankerous, so, take a mulligan on this one, okay?
He is talking about "suicide bombers" attacking "Tel Aviv" a city of the "Occupying Power" and it being "okay by him."
It is not okay by me and many others. Just to be blunt with you...
Peace
Abdullah
"Is your short term memory refreshed?"
Hmm, as far as I can tell, this Saudi professor is not an Israeli national, or a citizen of any nation that is currently "occupied" by Israel, which kind of calls into question your assertion that desperation or occupation are what has formed his religious view.
By the way, where are all the Greek-Christian Cypriot suicide bombers?
"War and Hate" - Ab Mik
So using your logic then, the root cause of the 'misunderstanding' being occupation rather than religion, we should expect to be hearing calls from Christian clerics, in Italy for example, justifying suicide bombings in Ankara?
He is issuing a legal ruling that deals with the area he is speaking about...he doesn't have to be connected to it in any way.
The majority of Muslims do not agree with suicide bombers.
Peace
Abdullah
No. You are playing a stupid game instead of reading what I am writing.
Okay. I'll play by your rules....
If a person is a judge in international law does he have to be a citizen of Somalia to say, "Piracy is illegal, therefore we shall put military patrol boats off the coast of Somalia in their territorial waters whether they want us to or not in order to protect our ships from pirates."
So, according to your logic, he has ro be a black ethnic Somali judge with close ties to the country in order for him to issue his legal opinion concerning it?
Understand yet?
Peace
Abdullah
P.S. Anyone should be able to understand it now...
"The majority of Muslims do not agree with suicide bombers." - Ab Mik
I say they do. They secretly cheer them on - the more mass-murdered "Infidels" and "Disbelievers," the better. Just as your Hate Manual, the KKKoran, instructs and commands.
“Islam is an absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, a rotting corpse which poisons our lives." -- Kemal Ataturk
It poisons EVERYONE'S lives, esp. the mass-murdered "Infidels" and "Disbelievers." A rotten dung-beetle belief system. Embraced only by utter fools and psychopaths.
Blow up infidels, but but but but? The religion whose founder is far worse than any believer can become? Study the history of Islam now free from the Historyscoper. Click http://go.to/islamhistory
So, according to your logic, he has ro be a black ethnic Somali judge with close ties to the country in order for him to issue his legal opinion concerning it?
Nonsense, that is not what I said at all. You are the one playing games. I was simply taking issue with your claim that the decision was based upon occupation and desperation (political/cultural issues) as opposed to a religious basis. I was not questioning whether or not he has the authority to do so, or even if the ruling was religiously correct. This seems rather obvious to me, and I'm guessing you understood it perfectly well but are simply attempting to deflect.
I took issue with your explanation/rationalization of the fatwa because it is the same kind of bullshit logic I have heard repeated over and over for quite a few years now by apologists of all stripes. It's the same kind of willfully blind reasoning that allowed so many to say "the root cause of the 7/7 bombing was the invasion of Iraq," and then in the next breath try to tell me it had "absolutely nothing to do with Islam." Sure, British citizens of Pakistani descent, with no ties whatsoever to the people or politics of Iraq, no common thread whatsoever except for Islam, just decide to blow themselves up in London one day murdering hundreds of innocent bystanders. I might start to buy that argument when the children of Christian Italian immigrants to Turkey set off suicide bombs in Ankara, before which they videotape messages explaining that they are crusading for the sake of Jesus Christ, and then some Vatican-funded Georgetown professor tries to tell me it is because of 'The Occupation' but it has nothing to do with Christianity. That sounds plausible in a sane world, right?
What is the big love fest. after killing themselves for (the limited number of) virgins. What happens? I would rather be alive and be able to have sex for more than a few times. 72 (or whatever) for all eternity seems a poor trade to me. hope that they have a good optomitrist so they do mess it up. oops muhamid I missed agin.
Learning, I think the 72 Houris get continually recycled as virgins.
That's believable, isn't it?
There is no suicide in Islam...it is called justifiable action taken to rid the world of infidels....an honorable Islamic tradition...an Islamic honor killing...death while attacking for Islam is honorable for Muslims...they don't consider it suicide to die for Allah...Muslims encourage each other to die...to die for Allah is the ultimate wet dream for Muslims...Islam...feel the love?
We seem to be on entirely different wave lengths.
"Islam is very clear on this, unfortunately some scholars are bending things, splitting hairs, and stating otherwise...due to the desperation of occupied people? I don't know...the majority of us disagree with this ruling."
"He is issuing a legal ruling that deals with the area he is speaking about...he doesn't have to be connected to it in any way."
What do you not understand about that?It is pretty straight forward...the majority of us disagree with his opinion, and I called in to question why he would even do it...what is his excuse?
Then you went on your tear.
Peace
Abdullah
I understand it fine. You are attempting to decouple the fatwa from religious motivation, and blame it on occupation and desperation, which is nonsense, as this cleric is suffering neither of these. The motivation is religious, whether you happen to believe it or not.
It's just like the tired old nonsense that poverty is the root cause of terrorism, not religion...and then we read about doctors, pharmacists, and Saudi Billionaires plotting terror attacks on a regular basis, while desperately poor people throughout the Caribbean, Central and South America, and sub-Saharan Africa are incredibly under-represented in terror attacks. It doesn't pass muster.