The photo above is from a protest in Istanbul. Note the flag following the coffin, featuring the swastika and the Star of David. What does demonizing Israel have to do with this case? Why, nothing -- but it is all part of the larger jihad against the West.
The selectivity of the outrage here is stunning. Alexander Wiens has apparently committed a heinous crime, and he should be punished to the full extent of the law. But to pretend that his crime is a manifestation of some pandemic "Islamophobia" is simply political manipulation. Muslim groups in America and Europe need "hate crimes," because "hate crimes" confer victim status, and victim status confers privilege. Victimhood is big business: insofar as Muslim groups can claim protected victim status for Muslims in the U.S. abd Europe, they can deflect unwanted scrutiny and any critical examination of how jihadists use Islamic texts and teachings to justify violence and supremacism.
That's most likely why CAIR and others have not hesitated to stoop even to fabricating "hate crimes." They want and need hate crimes against Muslims, because they can use them for political points and as weapons to intimidate people into remaining silent about the jihad threat.
But note: while Barack Obama spoke in Cairo about his determination to protect the right of Muslim women in America to wear the hijab, no one is speaking up for the Muslim and non-Muslim women in Islamic countries and in Muslim families in the West who have been threatened or murdered for not wearing the hijab. No one demonstrated for Aqsa Parvez, murdered by her father in Canada for not wearing the headscarf. No one demonstrated for the women killed in Iraq and elsewhere for not wearing it.
The outrage here is selective, and nakedly manipulative.
"German Murder Trial Is Focus Of Anger in Islamic World," from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, October 28 (thanks to James):
It is a story that has gripped both the Muslim and Western worlds.It began in 2008, in the German city of Dresden, when an Egyptian-born woman, Marwa al-Shirbiny, asked a man to make room for her 3-year-old son on a children's playground swing.
The man, Alexander Wiens, responded by calling al-Shirbiny -- who was wearing an Islamic headscarf at the time -- a "terrorist" and a "slut."
Al-Shirbiny summoned the police, and Wiens was subsequently fined the equivalent of $480 on charges of verbal abuse.
When Wiens attempted to appeal the conviction this July, al-Shirbiny, then pregnant, attended the hearing. As she was leaving the courtroom, the court records charge, Wiens leapt at her and stabbed her 18 times with a kitchen knife.
Her husband, Elwi Ali Okaz, tried to protect her, and also suffered multiple stab wounds.
To make matters worse, in the melee a policeman shot Okaz in the leg, apparently assuming that the Egyptian man was the attacker, rather than the German defendant.
The murder trial of Wiens, a 29-year-old ethnic German born in Russia, began in Dresden October 26 in the same courtroom where the murder took place. The dead woman's husband, Okaz, attended on a pair of crutches.
Ayyub Axel Koehler, the head of Germany's Central Muslim Council, told Reuters before the trial started that Muslims everywhere are intensely interested in this case.
"This trial is getting huge attention in the Muslim world," Koehler said. "There were riots in some Islamic countries because of this murder. So it's up to us Germans to defend our reputation."
Koehler, a convert to Islam, was referring to demonstrations in Egypt and Iran, and Tehran's request for the United Nations to become involved.
He also said that Germany's Muslim community -- the biggest in Europe after France -- has been badly shaken by the affair.
"We're looking at this trial with great anticipation, because our women and girls are obviously scared," he said. "They are already being discriminated against in public and looked down on."
Koehler said Germany's reputation has suffered badly, and that politicians have ignored Islamophobia and its consequences in society....
Of course, when your lone Muslim starts his Sudden Jihadi Syndrome and begins his beating on the Infidel, to suggest that his religion had anything to do with it is - wait for it - Islamophobic.
"There were riots in some Islamic countries because of this murder."
If it hadn't been that murder it would have been something else. Always rioting, always acting out like the intellectual pygmies moslems show themselves to be.
Try this test: Stop fasting, stop praying continually and lead a normal life for one month. There, isn't that much better? You are now far more rational and less likely to *explode*. Metaphorically, I mean.
"WorldFocus," which airs on PBS, did a segment on this last night. Not suprisingly, it was wholly sympathetic with the Muslim "plight" and (irony of ironies) decried "growing religious intolerance in Europe." Ironic because it completely assumed that Muslims were ALWAYS and uniquely the VICTIMS and NOT THE PERPERTRATORS of said intolerance and violence.
Pathetic.
BTW - anyone ever consider that Wiens wsa just "insane" and nothing more to it than that????
The selectivity of the outrage here is stunning.
Unfortunately, the phase after stunning is desensitizing. Future crimes against Muslims will be met with a shrug.
If they're tortured or persecuted by their own Muslim rulers then I have two words for them: free yourself!
When do we get Turkey out of NATO?
More Muslim hypocrisy, more fawning and displaying of guilt from the West, more money for muslim "community groups", more mosques, more muslim riots, killings, burnings, rapings, always more, more, more give us more jyzia you stupid western kaffirs and we will leave you alone - till the next time.
Also, emphasizing the victim angle implies that the people victimizing you are evil, thereby implying that all non-Moslems are guilty. And they are guilty of unbelief, aren't they?
a hate crime against an innocent woman wearing symbols of allegiance to the ideology of hate.
as far as the rioting is concerned, it is pure hypocrisy, a farce and irrelevant
One muslim woman murdered by a lunatic and it angers the whole muslim world?
WHAT ABOUT THE DELIBERATE MURDERING OF CHRISTIANS IN THE MUSLIM WORLD MADE BY MUSLIMS! Now that's killing people because they are not of the right faith!
Muslims and the whole muslim world can go F**K themselves!
The funny part is that they really believe that Shari'a law is applied in our free countries.
"Al-Shirbiny summoned the police, and Wiens was subsequently fined the equivalent of $480 on charges of verbal abuse."
Maybe instead of the Muslim world going nuts because some worthless (by there own standards, except when politically expedient) Muslima was murdered, they should start to be a little bit concerned that maybe the average native European citizen has had it up to here with the whining and the feigned victimhood and calling the police every time a Muslim gets their feelings hurt. Maybe Muslims should shut the hell up instead of demanding their "rights" to make everyone else's lives miserable. It's kind of like when a gang member decides to harass someone walking towards them on a dark street. The gang member thinks he has the upper hand until he finds out the other guys is packing a pistol. Then the gang member gets REALLY respectful REALLY fast.
Ms. al-Shirbiny thought she would play the Muslims-are-better-so-you-have-to-do-whatever-I-say game. But apparently, Mr. Wiens disagreed, and now Ms. al-Shirbiny is dead. I wonder if she thinks it was worth it.
Shall we begin to list the number of non-Muslims murdered, precisely for being non-Muslims, in Muslim-dominated lands, in recent times? In Pakistan (where ten years ago Bishop John Joseph committed suicide, made a martyr of himself, to protest the murders of Christians on every conceivable trumped-up charge -- sometimes murdered by the police when they were in custody), in Iraq (Assyrians, Chaldeans), in Saudi Arabia (foreign workers blown up by Muslim terrorists), in Lebanon (the massacre of Maronites, so quickly forgotten, at Damour), in Algeria (those French priests, those Italian monks with their vocation of charity, who had their throats slit while they slept), in Sudan (nearly 2 million Christians murdered, directly or indirectly, in the south), in Egypt (Copts kidnapped, tortured, killed by Muslims), in Tunisa (Tunisian Jews, and foreign tourists), Morocco (ditto), Somalia (Italian priests and samaritans, some who had spent decades living in the country helping the locals), and so on?
Or should we list the number of non-Muslims killed in the Western non-Muslim world, by Muslims? Should we list the beheaded villagers in the southern Philippines, or those Buddhist schoolteachers and monks and farmers similarly decapitated or stabbed or shot in southern Thailand? Should we include all the Hindus killed, in Indian-held Kashmir, in Mumbai (remember Mumbai? or have you already forgotten that attack), in the attack even on the Infian Parliament? Shall we remember the 85 civilian victims of the blowing up of the Jewish center in Buenos Aires? What about the torture-murder of young Mr. Halimi in Paris, with so many Muslims participating, and so many others knowing what was going on and doing nothing? The murder of Kriss Donald? The murders of other non-Muslims by Muslims, all over the Western world?
Oh, fill up the page, printer. No, that's the language of the old, unpixilated, gutenbergish world. So fill up...well, whatever it is one would fill up, nowadays, in our brave new Internet world. The list is very long.
"Wiens leapt at her and stabbed her 18 times with a kitchen knife." - How the heck did this guy get a knife into a courtroom? Good job security.
Regardless of his mental stability acts like this only serve the islamists (and apologists) by giving them something credible to point to while bleating about rampant "islamaphobia". Of course muslims will cherry pick events that support their worldview and we should not be surprised - many people do.
We should remember to do as we have repeatedly asked muslims to do (and of which they have largely not done) - unequivocally denounce this horrendous crime and the (apparently) hateful mindset that lead this man (sane or insane) to commit it.
Isabellathecrusader
she may well have no afterlife by which she might wonder.
is there really anyplace for women (not the virgins) in Paradise?
i believe that Wiens caused her to go from one form of slavery to an everlasting form of slavery.
Wherever they are we find.. turmoil, confusion, chaos, violence and savagery and lastly..stupidity.
That oft-out-trotted verse of the Koran comes to mind:
We [i.e., Allah] decreed for the Children of Israel [i.e., intended as a command for true Muslims from the time of Adam & Eve forward, a command that the wicked Jews ignored or twisted] that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth[i.e., "fasad" similar to "fitna"], it shall be as if he had killed all mankind... (5:32)
When we unpack what this means, we see that it is negatively defining the sin of killing, and we can then discern the positive statement, when we understand the following:
1) when Muslims kill non-Muslims or treasonous Muslims, the Muslims are righteously killing those who in some way or other foment fasad or fitna or shirk -- all of which are capital offenses in Islam.
2) when an Unbeliever kills a Muslim, it cannot be a righteous killing against manslaughter or against a fomenter of fasad or fitna or shirk.
Therefore, the heinousness of killing one man and its enormity of being "as if he had killed all mankind" of Koran 5:32 applies only to Unbelievers when they kill a Muslim, not to Muslims when they kill an Unbeliever.
Isabellathecrusader
she may well have no afterlife by which she might wonder.
is there really anyplace for women (not the virgins) in Paradise?
i believe that Wiens caused her to go from one form of slavery to an everlasting form of slavery.
Isabellathecrusader
she may well have no afterlife by which she might wonder.
is there really anyplace for women (not the virgins) in Paradise?
i believe that Wiens caused her to go from one form of slavery to an everlasting form of slavery.
excuse identical multiple post ... something about the gatekeeper waiting and waiting.
Has anyone thought to ask islam how many religous hate crimes were committed against infidels on the very day of the murder of this muslam women???
Has anyone given a thought as to how the men of islam manipulated this situation into a transnational incident???
As long as we tolerate these desert rats living among us we will continualy have this discussion all the while backpeddling and giving into ever increasing demands.
Muslims would give you a blank stare. Killing infidels or torching their property isn't a hate crime in Islam. It's an admirable act, in defense of their god. There is ample justification for it in the Koran.
Very astute, hesparado.
You have to view any piece of Islamic doctrine through the recognition that Islam considers believers as people and infidels as non-human scum.
"Note the flag following the coffin, featuring the swastika and the Star of David. What does demonizing Israel have to do with this case?"
Gosh,I'd have to say that they're a bunch of Infidelophics.
Hesperado,
Once again cherry picking to skew the meaning and fit your bias....context...always, context.
The life that is taken from an innocent person is what is discussed, period. Nothing akin to the nefarious twist you put on it.
Yes, when people engage in activity which renders them other than innocent, such as violent attacks, sedition in time of war, etc... the list goes on and it is very harmonious with our own UCMJ, then the person who is killed under those circumstances is not covered under this verse as well as many others including hadiths.
The human being has rights in Islam, the believer has rights and responsibilities that are far greater on them in respect to disbelievers than you will ever admit to or probably ever even attempt to learn.
There is justice established for all humanity in respect to how a Muslim treats any of them...yes, many times in life there is injustice committed, but in the very end of things justice will be done to those who were wronged...knowing what the rights of others are upon us is paramount as the rights of a disbeliever on us are, in some instances, greater and more serious for us to comply with than the rights of other believers in those same instances.
It is really not your fault that you misunderstand things the way you do. But once you are made aware that further research needs to be done on your part to correct this error in understanding your insisting upon the incorrect meaning in lieu of the truth is clearly an expression that your intention is not to seek the truth, but to forward agenda.
I have no problem with people who understand the truth and reject it...that's freedom of religion, freedom of choice...but if they never afford themselves an understanding of truth and make up their minds based on a lie and then reject based upon that lie, well, that is a tragedy.
Peace
Abdullah
Punic existential redundancy..
It began in 2008, in the German city of Dresden, when an Egyptian-born woman, Marwa al-Shirbiny, asked a man to make room for her 3-year-old son on a children's playground swing.
I would like to know more about this aspect. Why should anyone be asked to "make room" for someone's kid? Was he on the swing, or did he have his own child on the swing. Either way, playground equipment is first come first serve, isn't it?
Did she simply expect Infidels to move aside because HER kid wanted to play on THAT particular item?
I don't think the guy was nuts. I think he was just good and fed up over uppity Muslims expecting Europeans to "make room" for them.
From the article:
In a civil society, Herr Koehler, accusations are required to be accompanied with facts.
I have no problem with people who understand the truth and reject it..
--posted by abdullah
abdullah wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass.
The truth? Suddenly what a person believes is "THE TRUTH"??
LOL!!!
ADVICE TO THE SLAVE:
"YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!"
...but if they never afford themselves an understanding of truth and make up their minds based on a lie and then reject based upon that lie, well, that is a tragedy.
????????????????????????????????
What??????
Are you really so utterly blind that you don't realise that you are talking about YOURSELF????
You are a living lie. All you do is lie. You are wallowing in twisted lies and half truths.
Of course I know you are aware of this because you have been taught to lie as a slave of your Allah.
Yet still you expect him to keep his word and reward you.
You worship a God who lies, believe a book of lies written by liars about a lying 'prophet'
You have rejected the truth at every oppourtunity.
And then.......you accuse others of lying!!!!
LOL very funny.
pure evil
Can we just agree that this person committed murder because, presumably, he was angry that he had been prosecuted for the playground incident? That is murder pain and simple in my view and there is no justifying it.
nabi (pbum)
There is one aspect of this trial that in my opinion hasn't been discussed at all, or least not in the way it should have been. The perpetrator is a Russian born ethnic German. Nobody gave it a thought how he might have been traumatised by Islamic terrorism in Russia. There were the bombings of the tower blocks in Moscow, the hijacking of a theatre in Moscow by the black widows and the transformation of a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, to a concentration camp. The children of Beslan are traumatised for the rest of their lives, they won't be able to attend a school anymore.
I used to have a Russian neighbour, he gave me information that you don't get from the media.
In Germany the perps are normally well understood, you had a terrible childhood, you were bitten by a snake, nobody ever understood your ailments and the like. But in this case no understanding, no mitigating circumstances, no leniency. I'm afraid this will be a political trial.
Abdullah Mikail sez:
"The human being has rights in Islam,..."
It seems there are a lot of rights they don't have too....
AM has..I think served or is serving in the US military but alas like Lee Harvey Oswald and a few others, has fallen through the cracks.
epistemology. All due consideration should be given to this man for mitigating circumstances. But he did his murder in open court in front of many witnesses. That is a fact which I'm sure the trial will show. Again, there is no justifying this.
nabi ZK (pbum)
nabi - agreed.
I would like to see the muslims protesting the murders in courtrooms of Christians by muslims though, also, and never see that. There have been many stories posted of muslims attacking and murdering people in courtrooms. Many, many. And why aren't these women doing these protests when those 'honor' killings happened in Germany? Surely they heard those stories also? Or is it only because this girl was pregnant? Oh, wait, lots of the girls 'honor' murdered were pregnant too.
The main complaint here is the constant complaining and whining when things are muslim view and always the opposite when it is non-muslim. If this had been a muslim gone crazy in a courtroom in Germany they would all immediately say he had mental problems and that would suffice for the press and the libtards. And, as Ep says maybe there is way more to this story.
I do think the murder was wrong. I also think it is wrong for the muslims to 'fan the flames'.
Abdullah Mikail above is correct: the "human being" does "have rights" in Islam. The problem is, that all human beings don't have the same rights. All schools of Islamic law punish murderers differently, depending on whether the perpetrator is Believer or Unbeliever, and depending on whether the victim is Believer or Unbeliever.
The modern West has gone beyond this type of discrimination, to a vision of all humans being equal under the law. Islam is stuck in a blueprint where they divide Mankind into two categories, Believer and Unbeliever, and give different rights accordingly (and then subdivide further, into a complex hierarchy resembling a caste system; e.g., where Muslim women have less rights in certain respects than Muslim men; etc.).
There is no way to justify that, except through Mohammedan fanaticism and supremacism.
This is the beginning of the great tragedy unfolding before our eyes in western Europe. Unfortuanatly freespeech has been stifled to such a degree that free and unfetterd discourse, which is the safetey valve of western civilization has been disabled. Everyone knows what the implication of Islam is to our children, but we can't talk about it openly for the most part. Our leaders do not care what we think, so the Islamization continues unabated. We go to the park with our children, and see what is the undoing of wester civilization ... the very manifaestation of it, the "baby bomb" right there before us. Too bad there can not be full and public discouse over this issue ... becuase like the Muslims who will say, "Oh well freespeech go to hell, those that insult the profet must be killed. I won't do it, but someone else will." When western nations are forced into undertaking draconian measures to preserve our freedoms ... I guess I'll say, "Oh well looks like it was freedom go to hell for you fucking Muslims ... I didn't do it, but you know how it is."
I can only imagine the horror of being a parent in Germany right now ..... how that must feel to see what is happening around you. Things are slipping fast now it seems, I think this was less a hate crime than it was a case of micro ethic cleansing. Sorry to say it, but someone had to have the balls to. I doubt he was crazy, just frustrated and pissed off that his culture is being alowed to be destroyed.
I have no problem with people who understand the truth and reject it...that's freedom of religion, freedom of choice...but if they never afford themselves an understanding of truth and make up their minds based on a lie and then reject based upon that lie, well, that is a tragedy.
Peace
Abdullah
Well in that case, don't fret about Hesperado falling victim to "lies" and misunderstandings because he obviously has a good grip on the reality of islam.
I have noticed that many venerable islamic clerics, both in the U.S. and abroad, interpret and promulgate the tenets of islam and islamic law exactly as Hesperado does, yet you lament that he does not understand islam. Islam is a very rigid and unyielding creed; there is no wiggle room. Islam's erudite scholars all agree on certain things, like who can get away with murder and who can't; who is a more valuable "human being", a muslim or a non-muslim; and who is an "innocent" person.
The Western, Judeo-Christian perspective on the three questions is quite different than the islamic perspective, if presented truthfully. If you sincerely deny that, you're the one who does not understand islam. But I think you understand islam quite well and believe that by intellectualizing it beyond its intrinsic limitations, you might succeed in convincing some that nuance, innuendo, metaphor, and lexicon are key to comprehending its magnificent splendor. Why complicate something that is not complex or mysterious? Malevolence is the very essence of islam.
Are both offending symbols blatantly photoshopped or is it just me?
I would imagine both Germany and Israel embassies in Istanbul would file notes of protest with the Turkish government if someone paraded about the capital with a German flag with swastika and a star of david on it.
It seems like the only truth in this story is the fact that some crazy dude stabbed someone in court....
What about all the kafirs that get beaten up ,raped,and stabbed and robbed from each and every day?
Muslims always try to paint themselves as victims.
Since hijabs are a discriminatory and supremacist symbol equal to swastika's or white KKK sheets they should not be surprised to be met with ,sometimes violent, hostility.
I was going to say something about if someone took me to court and violated my freedom of speech, it'd take all my self-restraint not to do something similar, but I think Isabella said it for me, and in a much more literate fashion.
"Ms. al-Shirbiny thought she would play the Muslims-are-better-so-you-have-to-do-whatever-I-say game. But apparently, Mr. Wiens disagreed, and now Ms. al-Shirbiny is dead. I wonder if she thinks it was worth it."
Damn straight. This should serve as a warning to all the other ethnic minorities(not just muslims) when it comes to using hate speech laws in order to try and harm an indigenous native(or using them at all, they're a travesty), you never know when they'll snap on you for it.
$480 for name calling(if that part is even true)? What a joke. For all we know she made the entire thing up, and a $480 fine for something he didn't even say could have pushed Wiens over the edge.
Yeah I guess some Mulims will kill for the blasphemy law, some Kufar will kill for their freedom of speech. Simple as that. I underlines the basic problem.
Maybe you just had 2 messed up people meet at the right place at the right time. Most Germans I know have had enough of the "heimatkehrer" from Russia who are no more German than their German Shepherd dogs, and the beardie-weirdie, hijabi people. It's time for the EU go close its borders to these people.
If muslim people want to live the muslim life and their wives to dress as black moving objects, maybe they should stay at home. I get so sick of having this "victim" culture shoved in my face by the media, after the "victims" themselves have set themselves up for it.
I've lived in Islamic countries and have had to abide by their laws.It's time they did the same in the west. If this woman was a real muslim she wouldn't have been at the playground alone without a man anyhow.
I'm not out to pick a fight with posters but the tone and content of some of the responses has been disappointing. This is a heinous act of murder - plain and simple. Blaming the victim for being an "uppity" muslim, excusing the murderer because he was "fed-up" with muslims or crazy, and/or offering up a list of similar grievances is the same kind of tactics, mindset, etc. that we invariably see from the islamists and their apologists. Mentally switch the actors in this story (Western woman/Muslim male) and all here would be rightfully calling such responses nonsense.
No mitigating circumstances, no tit-for-tat excuse, no she asked for it blather can justify this brutal crime and we should righteously condemn it as we would if the roles where reversed.
"Selective outrage" LOL!!! Thats funny, wheres the outrage when a US missiles lands on 40 civilians or a school or a hospital. Wheres the outrage when the US incinerates men, women and children with MK77, how many of you fascist have even heard of MK77, pictures of babies turned to charcoal available, where was the outrage for Operation Shock and Awe or destruction of Falluja through carpet bombing residential areas and then sending in soldiers who indiscriminately shot automatic weapons at anything that moved, wheres the outrage when trigger happy US soldiers (filthy uneducated criminals sent to Iraq to be heros doing what they got arrested, and would go to prison, for doing in the US) shoot, harass, humiliate, rape violate and rob innocent civilians in Iraq!!!
Why did the USA change Iraq's reserve and trade currency from the Euro back to the Dollar?
Okay, so the wish list would be stay out of Bosnia, leave Milosevic in, let Kosovo take care of itself. Saddam ... who cares, Afghanistan ... well I guess we just nuke the whole north western region and call it.
Big -Pete, you are missing the point here. Is murder ever acceptable? No, not ever. But Mrs. al-Shirbiny was not an innocent bystander in this case. She was a victim of the chaos and unrest in society that Muslims have no problem creating in their quest to establish the ummah. By happily using Germany's laws against it's own citizens for a bogus complaint, Mrs. al-Shirbiny set in motion a wheel that eventually crushed her.
Muslims believe that they are superior to non-Muslims and as such have the right to lie to, cheat, steal from and kill anyone who is not a Muslim and who refuses to join the ummah. Mrs. al-Shirbiny was doing her part to force the kafir to submit and usher in that ummah. She knew it too. What utter nonsense to file a lawsuit because some man didn't automatically give up his place for her three year old.
Was Mr. Wiens reaction over the top, shocking and indefensible? Yes, it was. But it was also a possible option in a world that no longer believes in civility and trying to get along with one's neighbor, which has been largely ushered in by the influx of people into our countries who don't believe in the Golden Rule, would never turn the other cheek and who would happily take your life if you did anything they deemed offensive to a Qu'ran or published a cartoon of their prophet.
Mrs. al-Shirbiny lived by the sword of the prophet. Unfortunately for her, she also died by it.
To all you fascist,
It's funny and a sign of your supremacist nature that you justify this crime, or attribute blame to the victim, yet at the same time you condemn the people driven to resist occupation and oppression, or even those driven to kill innocent civilians due to oppression and occupation far more grieving than the murderer or any Westerner is facing.
So the victim going to court bought the crime upon herself, then US and Zionist soldiers bring their deaths upon themselves by invading, occupying, massacring, oppressing and humiliating civilians, that I truly believe. Now if I was a fascist like you scum, I would also say that the proportionately low number of civilians killed in 9/11 7/7 etc bought the crimes upon themselves by voting in the governments that create carnage , occupy and politically and economically colonize the Muslim world.
How can this killer be deemed to have mitigating circumstances, while Palestinians deemed to have to mitigating circumstances. Even thou, they are occupied and imprisoned the worlds largest concentration camp Gaza, regularly attacked, deprived of basic necessities, have their land stolen etc
To all you whiners and deludanoid Muslim victims,
It's funny and a sign of your supremacist nature that you justify this crime, or attribute blame to the victim,
(just like Muslims do when a woman is raped)
yet at the same time you condemn the people driven to resist occupation and oppression,
(like we Americans and Europeans who want to continue to live under our own system and not one forced upon us by unwelcome strangers in our midst)
or even those driven to kill innocent civilians due to oppression and occupation
(Mrs. al Shirbiny was not innocent as she told a wicked lie that started the wheels in motion)
or even those driven to kill innocent civilians due to oppression and occupation (A peculiarly Muslim trait)far more grieving than the murderer or any Westerner is facing. (That's a matter of opinion.
Two words for you Jowen,
"Peter" and "wolf".
Unfortunately for Mrs. al Shirbiny she picked the wrong kafir to lie about.