Another jihad arrest, and more non-cooperation from Muslim leaders. My column in Front Page this morning:
Luqman Ameen Abdullah, the imam of Detroit's Masjid Al-Haqq (Mosque of Truth), was killed Wednesday in a shootout with FBI agents. The agents were trying to arrest him on charges of conspiracy, receipt of stolen goods, firearms offenses and more. Agents also arrested eight mosque members; then Thursday, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police caught Abdullah's son, Mujahid Carswell. Two other accused jihadists also fled, and have not yet been found.According to the indictment, in his mosque in Detroit Luqman Abdullah was preaching "offensive jihad" and the establishment of a Sharia state in North America. This sovereign Isamic state would be ruled by Islamic law - and by the apparent godfather of Abdullah's movement, Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin. Al-Amin is the former Black Panther and convert to Islam who gained fame under the name H. Rap Brown. Al-Amin is now serving a life sentence for murdering two police officers, while his disciples, like Luqman Abdullah, carry on the message he articulated so memorably in the 1960s: "If America don't come around, we're gonna burn it down."
In the spirit of his mentor, Abdullah has told his flock: "America must fall." He has encouraged the Muslims in his mosque to support Hizballah, the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. He exhorted them to bestir themselves to pious deeds: "We should be figuring out how to fight the Kuffar" - that is, unbelievers. "We got to take out the U.S. government. The U.S. government is nothing but Kuffars." Among the unbelievers were FBI agents, about whom Abdullah declared: "Deal with them, deal with them the way, the way they supposed to be dealt with.... It's not that complicated, man....If they are coming to get me I'll just strap a bomb on and blow up everybody." A law enforcement official wrote in an affidavit that "Abdullah and his followers have trained regularly in the use of firearms, and continue to train in martial arts and sword fighting" - in accord with Abdullah's dictum that every Muslim believer should "have a weapon and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed."
Abdullah found justification for all this in the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an, which he said "justified stealing, robbing and other illegal acts, as long as they profit Islam."
One would think that Muslim spokesmen in America would be anxious to prove their moderate bona fides by repudiating Abdullah, praising the efforts of law enforcement officials, and announcing new measures to teach against the understanding of Islam that prevailed at the Masjid al-Haqq and to shore up the moderate Islam that politically correct orthodoxy insists prevails in all mosques in America in the first place. But no such luck. Instead, they praised Abdullah and excoriated law enforcement.
Dawud Walid of the Michigan branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) reinforced CAIR's image as an unsavory group with numerous ties to terror - an image newly reinforced by numerous revelations in the explosive new book Muslim Mafia -- as he tried to paint a very different picture of Abdullah: "I know him as a respected imam in the Muslim community." He emphasized the Masjid al-Haqq's charitable activities, perhaps forgetting that Nazi Germany (and Hamas, and Hizballah) ran social programs as well, and thus their existence is no indication that the one operating them is in every sense benign.
According to the Detroit Free Press, Walid said that a group of imams were going to meet with the head of Detroit's FBI office, Andrew Arena, to complain, about "linking the weapons and smuggling charges to the Muslim faith" - as if the FBI, rather than Luqman Abdullah, had done this. Arena probably won't need much convincing: he has already asserted, without explanation, that Abdullah taught "a very hybrid radical ideology - one mainstream Muslims "would not recognize." For his part, Walid also warned that the death of Abdullah and the arrests of other Masjid al-Haqq would anger Muslims and make them even more suspicious of law enforcement than they already are: "As much as our president says nice, flowery things about Muslims and Islam in Cairo or Istanbul, these types of stories just erode that."
Meanwhile, the Muslim Alliance of North America, of which Abdullah was a member, complained about the shootout in a statement: "This tragic shooting raises deep concerns regarding the use of lethal force by law enforcement agents. We urge law enforcement and the media not to take undo advantage of this tragedy in order to demonize ... African American Muslims in particular."
These kinds of statements fall into a pattern that has played out many times before. An Islamic jihadist plots murder and mayhem, explicitly justifying it all by reference to Islamic texts and teachings. Then putatively moderate Muslims, instead of support law enforcement efforts, criticize them and complain about Muslims being victimized and Islam being unfairly linked to terrorism. Generally this is followed by the spectacle of media and law enforcement officials bending over backwards to make sure that no one gets the impression that Islam had anything to do with the bloody plots that the arrested parties were planning.
The problem with this pattern is that no one involved is doing anything to keep the story of Luqman Abdullah and the Masjid al-Haqq from being repeated in other mosques in the United States in the future. No one is challenging the Muslim community here to clean its own house and stop the dissembling and finger-pointing. No one is speaking openly and honestly about what the Qur'an really says, and what the implications are of that fact. No one, in short, is doing much of anything to ensure that Luqman Abdullah, one of the first clergymen in the United States to be killed in a shootout with the FBI, is not just the first of many.
No one is challenging the Muslim community here to clean its own house and stop the dissembling and finger-pointing.
Eloquently stated as always. Because in the koran, islam is its own justification and there is no transcendent standard to judge it by other than its own perpetuation. You don't see anything like "the greatest commandment is love" or, "All who are on the side of truth come to Me". Islam is entirely self-serving and there is no "outside" measure by which to assess its behaviour. Indeed to do so is blasphemy. Sounds kinda like *insert oppressive fascist ideology here*.
/bangs head against table.
"The U.S. government is nothing but Kuffars." -- from the article.
...but our president is working furiously to change that.
"Abdullah and his followers...continue to train in...sword fighting" -- from the article.
Indiana Jones knew exactly how to handle sword waving fanatics.
You got that right, bud.
l wonder if these Black muslim realize their slave traders were originally from arab countries, and that in the kuran they are referred to as "raisins"? how funny to see such blindness to their real slave owners, that they follow their death cult.
Put a turban on a Detroit ex convict street thug and what do you have....?
Bingo!
News Story #1:
"Andrew Arena, the FBI special agent in charge of the investigation, contacted local imams and civil rights leaders in Detroit during Wednesday's operation "to bridge any gaps that could possible come over this," FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said.
"He'd rather they hear it from him," she added. "We have a good relationship with the community and we want to keep it that way."
News Story #2:
"But as the case[of the Muslims in Dearborn whose arrest made headlines Thursday, the FBI moved to downplay the connection to Islam, saying that Abdullah and his organization should be considered a fringe group.
"Any Muslim who took a look at what these people believed would not recognize this as the Muslim faith," said Andrew Arena, who heads up the FBI's Detroit bureau."
News Story #3:
Arena on Thursday declined to offer any other details about the raid.
"This is obviously something we don't relish. But in the end, we take solace that we took some bad people off the street," he said.
Neither Abdullah nor his co-defendants were charged with terrorism. But he was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," FBI agent Gary Leone wrote in an affidavit filed with the 43-page complaint Wednesday.
The FBI said Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was an imam, or prayer leader, of a faction of a radical group named Ummah whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the U.S.
"This is a very hybrid radical ideology. I don't know that I'd call it a religion," Arena said.
News Story #4:
U.S. Attorney Terrence Berg also asked people not to connect the group, headed by Luqman Ameen Abdullah, with Muslims in general. Abdullah, 53, was killed in a shootout with FBI agents Wednesday at a Dearborn warehouse.
Berg said the group in question “is a specific brand of radical ideology.”
My, how important it appears to be for everyone to rush to assure Muslims that in no case is a group consisting entirely of Muslims -- not all of them apparently recent converts -- using the language of Islam, relying on the texts and tenets of Islam, spouting -- in ways more aggressive and violent than we are used to hearing in this country -- their understandeing of Muslim doctrine, which has a heavy admixture, or subtext, of anti-white feeling. But Da'wa campaigns are especially strong, we all know, among black prisoners, seen, because of their social and economic marginalization, and a psychic desarroi that makes they ready prey for such campaigns -- imagine if all the black prisoners who convert to Islam instead became, because of clever government support for black ministries, Born-Again Christians. They'd be a bore, perhaps, but they wouldn't be have become a mortal threat, with an ideology that provided them with a justification for what, before, had only been seen as sociopathic behavior.
Of course "any Muslim" who "took a look" would be quick to deny a link between the Greater Cult and the Lesser. What would you expect? But what about those of us who are not Muslims, but have a perfectly good grasp of the contents of the texts, and of how those texts are received, through long familiarity with Muslim sources, guides, Internet sites, and long observation, sometimes from close up, of the behavior, and expressed beliefs, of adherents of Islam? Would we, if we "took a look at what these people believed," truly "not recognize this as the Muslim faith"? Could Andrew Arena tell us what it was, exactly -- really, give us the details -- that makes him be so sure that one can distinguiish what these people hoping to establish an Islamic state in North America believed in and what other, presumably orthodox, Muslims are taught to believe in. A difference in timing and tactics does not matter. What matters is whether the ultimate goals are shared or not.
Andrew Arena of the FBI owes the public much more of an explanation of his curious remark.
And he also should think to himself, and then possibly aloud, as to the ways in which that "very hybrid radical ideology" that he, Andrew Arena, thinks he doesn't know if he would "call it a relgiion" differs, if at all, in its texts and tenets and attitudes and atmospherics, from the perfectly orthodox Islam described by every articulate defector -- Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Magdi Allam, Ali Sina -- from the Army of Islam.
Why does Andrew Arena think all of those defectors must surely have misunderstood, or must surely be lying, and that he knows better than they? Is it because the Muslims he monitors, at such great expense, tell him so?
Islam needs to be removed from our midst. It is the only way to perpetuate our way of life. Islam is offensive to our culture because it is based on deception not honesty. Islam feeds off of life instead of nurturing life.
If muslims wish to continue spreading the Islamic System, they should be stripped of US citizenship and deported to the shores of Islamic-controlled territories where they can live in submission...or international waters where they can tread water.
Africans submit to the Arab slave traders and the Arab muslims because we refuse to recognize that it is Islam, not the "white man", that is the problem. If we were to call the enemy out, we could defeat it and free millions of Africans. Sadly, until we are willing to name Islam as the enemy, the enslavement of human souls will continue as it has for 1,400 years.
And it is not just Africans that suffer under the Islamic slave system. All people who find themselves under the control of Islam are enslaved. Islam is colorblind and deceives all with equal vigor.
Abdullah taught "a very hybrid radical ideology - one mainstream Muslims "would not recognize."
There are two Quran's...one for terrorists and one for 'mainstream' Mahoundians...Jihadi's are obviously reading the wrong one...
"Put a turban on a Detroit ex convict street thug and what do you have....?
Bingo!"
What we have here is a single-digit IQ who easily finds a home in Islam because Islam supports and rewards bad behavior, including murderous behavior, for which the zombies, er, excuse me, the adherents, get a non-existent paradise of 72 eternally-recycled virgins.
The knuckle-walker above with the turban has now discovered that Mo made the whole thing up.
There is only one tragedy here - and that is the death of the FBI dog, also considered to be an agent. I'd take that dog any day over the sub-human above, who was justifiably shot by LE. Good Riddance.
He looks like an infected blueberry.......idiot.
Dy-no-mite!
"America must fall."
Obama can only do so much in such little time, be patience, it's coming...
"Any Muslim who took a look at what these people believed would not recognize this as the Muslim faith," said Andrew Arena, who h>eads up the FBI's Detroit bureau."
Allow me to indulge in a futuristic fantasy:
The year 2090: The West has finally woken up to the dangers of Muslims and has taken rational measures, including the deportation of all Muslims to an internationally defined Dar-al-Islam (roughly comprising the vast swath of lands historically conquered by Muslims from Indonesia to Morocco, with some exceptions).
Westerners like Andrew Arena, whose job it had been to protect Western citizens but who failed miserably, would be put on trial, boldly, proudly and with no apologies necessary emblazoned as "The New Inquisition":
Grand Inquisitor: Mr. Arena, you were quoted as asserting that what Luqman Abdullah was practicing was unrelated to the Muslim faith. Mr. Arena, I want you to explain to the Inquisition Committee three things:
1) What was the ideology of Luqman Abdullah
2) What is the Muslim faith
3) How is it that 1 cannot be derived from, let alone match, 2.
You will be given 48 hours to prepare, at which time you will be given one hour to explain and you can use written notes and your laptop computer. If you fail to explain all three points to the satisfaction of the Inquisition Committee, you will be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. Good day.
Abdullah found justification for all this in the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an, which he said "justified stealing, robbing and other illegal acts, as long as they profit Islam."
After reading the Qur'an, that would be my conclusion as well.
Will Yommie and Abie Mikie finally believe me? I mean Abdullah is a fellow Mohammedan. Who you gonna believe? If Abdullah is a radical extremist, that must mean that Mohammed was a ................... radical extremist.
Just looking at the above photograph of Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah brings joy to my heart.
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There is fun in Islam, and it's in the funny faces of Moslems with their confused vacuous stares and always reproachful expressions.
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I bet that the Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini wishes he hadn't made that statement. But then again he had a pretty funny face himself.
The Detroit Free Press (as with nearly every "journalist" today) has its head so far up its PC ass that for the life it can't ask questions to a logical conclusion, i.e., when Arena said (1) "Any Muslim who took a look at what these people believed would not recognize this as the Muslim faith," and (2) "This is a very hybrid radical ideology. I don't know that I'd call it a religion," the next logical question as to either would be, " and how do you arrive to that conclusion Mr. Arena? What qualifications do you have to make such a judgment?
Now wouldn't those questions at least placed some context on the quality of Mr. Arena's opinons? As it stands now, all you have are blanket (dhimmi?) assertions that shield islam as a whole with no consideration of what lies beneath. This is a dangerous disservice to America. The "press" and its ignorance or complicity is equally dangerous to our freedoms as are dhimmi politicians.
No problems from Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Sikhs, agnostics, atheists, Zoroastrians, Shintoists, Taoists, Confucianists, Rastafarians (too busy smoking), Wiccans, Babists..... Once again, just Muslims. Same old same old. What a pain in the ass Islam is. Ah, I'm so sick of Islam. Besides, it's really so transparently fraudulent (e.g., the Model Man's many convenient revelations justifying his sexual appetites) and stupid (e.g., pretty much all of Sharia, the dumbest legal system I have ever studied) that one has to wonder why it even continues to exist.
"(Islam's) really so transparently fraudulent (e.g., the Model Man's many convenient revelations justifying his sexual appetites) and stupid (e.g., pretty much all of Sharia, the dumbest legal system I have ever studied) that one has to wonder why it even continues to exist." -- Wellington
It (dumbest legal system) continues to exist because the Moslem world's foundational 'truths' are in their Koran, unlike the rest of the world, especially modern civilized world, where our foundational truths are in the accurate measurement and logical understanding of the reality world. The radical difference between Islam and the real world is that where we seek accuracy and truths, they wallow in deceits and spiteful conspiracies (Israel, America, Denmark, etc.) to explain their universe against an ever maligned "Other" not part of their Koran. The resulting system from this warped sense of reality is their legalistic Sharia, which becomes so convoluted and absurd that only the mentally marginal could fall for such nonsense. But the groveling cave ignorants do, and there is the rub, that now they also live in our civilized societies. That said, for Afro-Americans to convert to Islam (slavery) is beyond my understanding completely... What fools!
It sounds very much as if Andrew Arena is acting in accordance with agency policy in making these public remarks. Despite the wrongheadedness of such policies, I find it very hard to believe that the rank and file within the agency, including especially those who did the investigation and those who were involved in the actual shootout and arrests, are as ignorant of the issues as these statements make them appear to be. But most of them are not free to say what they think. The problem is at the top, from where it has been directed that no associations are to be made between crimes and ideology, especially if the crimes are motivated by a protected group such as Muslims. It's the Administration and its political appointees from the Left who are now making policy who are responsible.
But you probably noticed that Andrew Arena was tap dancing mighty furiously around this story. Nobody is this defensive about something unless he thinks he might be sitting on a powder keg that could go off at any time. Maybe it's a sign that there really is recognition within the agency there they, and we, have a very serious problem on our hands. The good news is that they took these guys off the street. The bad news is that they aren't being forthright in describing the true nature of the problem.
Whoopi!
"Besides, it's really so transparently fraudulent (e.g., the Model Man's many convenient revelations justifying his sexual appetites) and stupid (e.g., pretty much all of Sharia, the dumbest legal system I have ever studied) that one has to wonder why it even continues to exist." - Wellington
Indeed.
Here's a little something Einstein said:
"Only two things are infinite: The Universe, and human stupidity."
The followers of idiotic Islam fall into the latter category, but you knew that.
A correction: Jamil al-Amin/H. Rap Brown shot two Georgia deputies in March 2000, but only one, Ricky Kinchen, died of his wounds, for which al-Amin is now serving life.
The uncomfortable facts are other than as suggested here by Battle_of_Tours. Western clarity of thought and comity of behavior does not arise from some supposed intrinsic enlightenment through logic, but from the testimony of Judaism and the doctrines of the Christian faith. It is not popular to assert that we do not "seek accuracy and truths" any more than any other people group on the planet, but such is the case. The difference arises instead from our embrace of fundamental axioms that comport with reality, whereas theirs do not. It is not that they are "groveling cave ignorants" and we are not; it is that we have escaped from the caves through receptivity to grace, the happy concomitant being the elevated culture we enjoy.
PastorMike, Thank you for bringing the spiritual element into this discussion. I believe, although the west has strayed far from it, that our Judaic-Christian underpinning are the best offense against this cancer of out civilization.
I remember an incident a number of years ago but don't remember all of the details. I had called the local FBI office about some Muslim issue that was bothering me. The person on the other end of the line thought I was talking about Martians invading or something. He just did not get it. The more I tried to explain the threat of Islam the more I could hear or rather see his eyes glazing over. It was a very frustrating phone call.