Welcome to Cool Britannia! "Protesters meet Dutch far-right MP," from the Press Association, October 16 (thanks to Tziona):
Around 40 Muslim demonstrators gathered near the Houses of Parliament as Geert Wilders arrived in central London.Brandishing banners saying "Shariah is the solution, freedom go to hell" and "Geert Wilders deserves Islamic punishment", the protesters were held back by police....
Addressing journalists alongside UKIP peer Lord Pearson, Mr Wilders said his visit was "a victory".Explaining his controversial views on Islam, he said: "I have a problem with the Islamic ideology, the Islamic culture, because I feel that the more Islam that we get in our societies the less freedom that we get."
Well, "Freedom Go to Hell" would indeed seem to suggest that.
40 demonstrators falls far short of the 20,000 promised by a Muslim in the House of Lords before Wilder's last aborted visit. Didn't the Umma get the announcement?
Well, this is a miracle. Thank God Geert could even get in the country.
The next miracle is to de-Islamicize Britain and the West. This will be a slow process but people like Geert will inspire others to make that happen.
It truly is unbelievable that Geert is the perceived bad guy in all of this. The friggin world is upside down. I'm still trying to figure out what islam and muslims have done for the world to garnish this much support from freedom-loving peoples. I just don't get it and I guess I never will.
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For "Explaining his controversial views on Islam"
Read "Explaining his views on Islam"
Islam proves Geert (and Spencer) are right...
There is no better testimony than this..."Freedom Go to Hell"...
Geert Wilders is Europe's intrepid freedom fighter. He's the European hero of 21st century. In Berlin Robert said, he'd like him to become Prime Minister of the Netherlands, but I prefer him to become President of the United States of Europe. That's a long way to go, I'm only dreaming. But we need Geert all over Europe.
Douglas Reed, that mahoundian you've mentioned is Porki-born Lard Nazir Ahmed, appointed as peer-for-life by Tony "I love mahoundianism" Blair.
And 40 screaming mahoundians are indeed faaaaaaar short of the thousands promised by Lard Ahmed. He can't mobilize as many mahound-worshipping zombies as he'd like yet, and it's up to ordinary Britons who love their country for real to stand up and do what they can before he eventually is able to make good on his promised threats.
"Freedom, go to hell."
Well, there's no misunderstanding that, is there? I have mine own slogan, from the seal of the great state of Virginia - "Sic semper tyrannus".
I agree those protesters seem to want to cause trouble and divisions in UK society. But lets not lose perspective, it was 20 people who attended and waved provocative banners!!!!
I wonder what would cause those 40 (not 20) to carry signs like that jowen. Why would they move to and/or live in GB if they believe the crap they put on those signs. Do you endorse their message too jowen? I don't think anyone is losing perspective here but it really does raise some interesting questions that they would carry signs like that to protest a guy who believes islam is about limiting peoples freedom, no?
As duh_swami already indicated, the "freedom go to hell" statement kind of sums it all up. Freedom and Islam are inversely proportional to one another. Here in the US one could not find a greater enemy of the First Amendment, which is all about true liberty, than the Islamic theological blueprint.
On a related note, I concur with epistemology's assessment that Geert Wilders is the great man in Europe in these times. Now if only many more Europeans begin to grasp this, then a major corner will have been turned.
SHARIA go to hell!
Brandishing banners saying "Shariah is the solution, freedom go to hell" and "Geert Wilders deserves Islamic punishment", the protesters were held back by police....
The second sign should have resulted in an arrest, as it is a definite threat of beheading against an elected parliamentarian.
Freedom go to hell? Islam go to hell, rather, and all its adherents and apologists with it.
The answer to your first question is absolutely nothing. You can measure this against any standard you want and it will comes up with a big ZERO. Conversely if you look at all of the grief, mayhem, carnage and evil Islam scores big for the last 1400 years. You can look at it as the Great Cancer on social humanity.
Now the harder question is how do they get the support from freedom-loving peoples. Well I would say that the people you characterize as 'freedom-loving' are not that at all.
I saw on YouTube Jamie Glazov. What he says seems to make since to some degree. Basically people of a particular political POV (he calls them the Left) believe the idea is more important than peoples lives. They have an vain philosophy that mankind can achieve a Utopian world state. The only trouble is the old world must be put down. They are attracted to the blood and carnage of Islam because the west deserves it and it is needed to bring about change.
I hope what I have said makes sense and I hope you noticed many of the catch words and phrases you hear all of the time on the MSM.
mad as hell
It makes perfect sense.
Meanwhile al BBCera is describing Geert as "Far right Dutch MP" which is BBC speak for "not quite Nazi". They also put a muslim Labour MP on air to play the, "The-rules-should-apply-to-all-extremists-why-should-white-extremists-be-an exception" card.
Self-loathing and valuing "humanity" while having little regard for individual human beings are indeed stable characteristics of Far Left thought.
FredMK_1....He's not a muslim Labour MP, he's a muslim MP who's chosen the Labour party as the most convenient route, for him, to power.
Shadid Malik, when addressing a muslim audience, boasted how the number of muslim MPs was set to increase. There was no reference to the actual parties they would sneak in with. That's an irrelevance.
Jacqi Smith's decision to ban Geert Wilders from the UK was overturned, and rightfully so. The ban on Michael Savage put into place by Jacqui Smith before she was dismissed should be similarly reversed. (Michael Savage is a popular American AM radio talk show host who has a clear understanding of the nature of Islam and regularly shares it with his substantial radio audience, much to the discomfort of the Islamofacists and their Leftist apologists)
Great news. What disturbs me about my country is that they have ridiculed Geert Wilders as someone who thinks islam wants to dominate the world. Outside his press conference today were a group of muslims holding placards saying "Islam will dominate the world". Which bit do these people not get when the very people who claim Wilders is wrong are stating publicly that he is right?
"Self-loathing and valuing "humanity" while having little regard for individual human beings are indeed stable characteristics of Far Left thought."
--Wellington
Dickens called it "telescopic philanthropy"
In chapter IV of Bleak House entitled "Telescopic Philanthropy" Dickens describes the neglected children of Mrs. Jellyby and then, here, she (Mrs. Jellyby) is described:
"We were to pass the night, Mr. Kenge told us when we arrived in his room, at Mrs. Jellyby's; and then he turned to me and said he took it for granted I knew who Mrs. Jellyby was.
"I really don't, sir," I returned. "Perhaps Mr. Carstone--or Miss Clare--"
But no, they knew nothing whatever about Mrs. Jellyby. "In-deed! Mrs. Jellyby," said Mr. Kenge, standing with his back to the fire and casting his eyes over the dusty hearth-rug as if it were Mrs. Jellyby's biography, "is a lady of very remarkable strength of character who devotes herself entirely to the public. She has devoted herself to an extensive variety of public subjects at various times and is at present (until something else attracts her) devoted to the subject of Africa, with a view to the general cultivation of the coffee berry--AND the natives--and the happy settlement, on the banks of the African rivers, of our superabundant home population."
http://www.literaturepage.com/read/dickens-bleak-house-41.html
Self-loathing and valuing "humanity" while having little regard for individual human beings are indeed stable characteristics of Far Left thought.
Great news. What disturbs me about my country is that they have ridiculed Geert Wilders as someone who thinks islam wants to dominate the world. Outside his press conference today were a group of muslims holding placards saying "Islam will dominate the world". Which bit do these people not get when the very people who claim Wilders is wrong are stating publicly that he is right?
D'oh, I missed it because I was at work, but I so wish I could've been there.
Both to see Geert and indulge in a little "counter-protest". It's amazing that he got to come here and he should never stop promoting freedom, regardless of how he's smeared.
Sorry for the double post.
I feel the same! I wanted to go to London to greet the man
with a great big welcome sign.
I didn't realise he was going to be here so fast.
WELCOME to Britain Geert!
There are those of us who want you here.
From the BBC: “Mr (Sayful) Islam (who was leading their anti-Wilders chants) told reporters Mr Wilders was a "dog" who should be "tried by an Islamic court" for insulting the Prophet but he refused to say what he thought the MP's punishment should be. "I am not silly," he grinned, hinting that he was aware where the media were trying to lead him.”
Aw shucks, aren’t they such friendly folk, all full of love and compassion.
The fact that every liberal MSM keeps broadcasting this event with the chanting and painting Geert as an extremist while avoiding the same tag on the peace loving muslim demonstrators makes me gag, and I’ve got a pretty good gag reflex.
UKIP peer Lord Pearson: “I don't agree with that at all. I want the Koran discussed very much more and I want it particularly discussed by the 98% or whatever it is of the Muslim community who are mild, peace-loving people. But what I want them to do is to get up off their bottoms and take on their violent co-religionists who do base these acts of evil on the Koran.”
(Heh-heh, he said ‘bottoms,’ more like bottom of the barrel.)
Well, it’s a start in the right direction.
"It truly is unbelievable that Geert is the perceived bad guy in all of this. The friggin world is upside down. I'm still trying to figure out what islam and muslims have done for the world to garnish this much support from freedom-loving peoples. I just don't get it and I guess I never will."
- Comic Relief
You are so right, CR. It's shocking what's going on - SHOCKING. Who can understand it? You must have to be insane to understand it. Utterly and completely NUTS.
Evidence of intelligent life in England.
Sharia *is* Hell.
Hell made manifest on earth.
There are two literary attempts to represent the western moral/ theological conception of Hell - that is, the process or state of corruption of the soul, and of the City - that I am familiar with: C S Lewis's The Screwtape Letters, and Dante's Inferno.
I read both of those long before I started finding out about Islam.
But the more I find out about the Ummah - in particular, reading what Nonie Darwish has to say in 'Cruel and Usual Punishment', or reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali describing the suspicion and aggression that saturate daily life in Islamified Somalia, and the all-pervasive atmosphere of cruelty in Saudi Arabia - the more I am struck by the fact that when our western poets and theologians attempt to imagine a state of total corruption of the soul and of the city, they end up describing something very much like the normal state of affairs within the Ummah - a state of affairs that sharia is actually set up to *produce*.
I used to think Tolkien's Orcs and his desolate land of Mordor were a bit far-fetched.
Now I know better.
Dear Fred, I was banned from commenting on BBC once, because I spoke about "Islamofascism". Is that foul language by modern BBC standards now? I used to love and admire the BBC on account of their fair and succinct reporting, I used to love their style but these days gone.
Thanks for the Dickens' reference, Yankel. I read Bleak House many years ago and had forgotten about Mrs. Jellyby until your post jogged my memory. In microcosm, she sums up the "problem" quite well.