"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, 'Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody"

Muhammad Atta said: "Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers."

"Fort Hood soldier describes horrific scene to family in Utah," by John Daley for KSL.com, November 5 (thanks to AJ):

NORTHERN UTAH -- The news of the mass shooting at Fort Hood Thursday hit close to home for some Utahns. One man says his daughter heard the shooter exclaim "Allah Akbar" as he opened fire.

We want to stress that no government or military officials are reporting that and there is no way for us to independently confirm that it is true....

The soldier's father says his daughter was at Fort Hood Thursday when the shooting happened, and she called him, frantic and upset, soon after.

"She said, 'Dad, I'm OK. Don't worry, I'm OK.' And initially I said, 'What are you talking about?' She said, 'Haven't you heard?' And I said, 'No.' And she said, 'We've been attacked by terrorists,'" the father explained.

He told KSL News soldiers were sitting in a staging area for medical and dental checks when the group was startled by gunfire.

"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, 'Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody," the father told us....

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Local tv (Sacramento ca) actually reported that Hasan was shouting Allahu Akbar...They did not explain what that meant...

I saw some dude dressed up in those white pajamas with the skull cap and flood-height pants in my local supermarket. I rolled slowly past him with my shopping cart, turned on the camera on my iPhone, and let out "allah akbar."

Man, it was like I poked a hot poker up his ass. He scowled at me, but was clearly too shocked to respond.

Next time you see one of these muhammadan ass-clowns, try it.

None of these details will make it into the establishment media.

A bit, HEAVILY triple checked, will leak out through Fox.

"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, 'Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody," the father told us....

A courageous jihadi in action. Brave jihadi!

At any moment, the unarmed kuffar soldiers could have shouted "Mohammed is a pedophile!" and poor Major Hasan would have collapsed into a pile of self-pity.

In addition to 9/11, we now have 11/5.

Of course the number of victims on 9/11 far surpasses the number of victims yesterday.

With that dissimilarity in mind, 9/11 and 11/5 are still both Islamic Jihads. One killed more Infidels than the other, that's the only difference.

Speaking of Fox; I heard the estimable Jerry Rivers this morning saying that he hopes Hasan is tried in a TX court and not by the UCMJ on FHTX. Won't happen. The attacks took place on a federal installation with, as far as I remember from being stationed there as an MP, exclusive federal jurisdiction, not concurrent jurisdiction. He cannot be tried in Bell County or Killeen unless FHTX refuses to try him on any charges. Not likely.

The reason for Jerry's concern might be the UCMJ itself which, in cases like this, permits one (1) trial and one (1) automatic appeal with the Court of Military Appeals and then, assuming the verdict is not overturned by CMA, the sentence of the court is carried out. Period.

End of discussion.

Jerry was also muttering about no weapons ever ever being on FHTX, not sure what his point was. Privately owned weapons, those not issued to soldiers by the Army, can be stored in the same weapons storage room as GI weapons. POW must be locked up separately from GIW w/i that arms room but the security and accounting regs are the same for both. All one needs to do to check his POW out of the arms room is to tell the armorer he's going to shoot it at some range, sign for it, and walk away. I'm sure CID has been all over any arms room in which Hasan might have had a POW stored and any evidence is in their custody now.

We want to stress that no government or military officials are reporting that and there is no way for us to independently confirm that it is true....
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Duly noted. However, the chances that the first thing a person from Utah would think of, when being fired on at a base in Texas by a person who looks like a white American, is probably *not* "Allah Akbar"!

Reportedly he had been at Fort Hood for about five months. He was outspokenly opposed to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and openly prayed at the base mosque.

Still, Fort Hood is *huge*—one of the largest bases in the nation—the size of a small city, and personnel are constantly rotating in and out of the facility. The likelihood that he would have been identified as Muslim by his victims seems small.

The likelihood that, in addition, they would then make a cry of "Allah Akbar" seems small.

Reportedly, Hasan wrote an on-line article, "Martyrdom in Islam versus Suicide bombing", where he decided that "your intention is important and Allah knows best".

In other words, it's not suicide if your intent is to kill Kaffirs. This is a man who would have studied Jihad, and have known about shouting "Allah Akbar" to 'strike fear into the hearts of the unbelievers'.


Undaunted, if he is tried in a military court, can't he be sentenced to hard labor?

I reiterate the question I asked on an earlier thread:

Why are cases of mass murder perpetrated by a lone individual considered by law enforcement NOT to be acts of terrorism?

There needs to be an investigation, a trial, and then some officials should be put in stocks for their naivete. Apparently, the signs weren't blatant enough for the idiots running the military that this guy was dangerous, despite his bloggings, remarks, attire, but hey, why are we in Aghanistan for anyway?
One, two, three, what are we fightin' for?
Don't know and I don't give a damn,
The next stop is Afghanistan!

At least Jerry Rivers is consistent...consistently pathetic...

The MSM is still struggling to "make sense" of Hasan's actions. FWIW, let's see if we can help. Nidal Malik Hasan:

1. Was a devout muslim.
2. Felt muslims should rise up against the "aggressors".
3. Had sympathy/empathy for jihadi attacks.
4. Researched suicide attacks.
5. Was shouting "Allah Akbar" as he killed fellow soldiers.

Nope, no answers there. I guess this will remain a mystery unless Hasan tells us himself.

Sarcasm aside it's funny to watch the anchors and guests pretend to be perplexed about something they obviously know the answer to BUT can't talk about.

Faizul Khan, the former imam of a mosque in Silver Spring, Maryland, where Hasan prayed several times a week, said he was "a reserved guy with a nice personality. We discussed religious matters. He was a fairly devout Muslim."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125748027248433099.html

Awad is on Fox right now spewing taqiyya...

It's interesting how much Awad of CAIR sounds a lot like Abdullah M of CAIR...Clones maybe?

Yup. CAIR rep expressing all the same crap: Shock, sympathies, condemnation, blah, blah, blah...and now to his purpose - No linkage of Islam and terrorism - Americans must be calm and not blame Islam for this - We are all brothers.

FOX better get a clue. They must know CAIR has linkages to terror groups yet they give this scumbag a national platform from which to spew his lies.

One bright note: The rep didn't even sound like he might believe what he was saying. Perhaps he's had to give this speech so many times that he is coming to believe that NOBODY could be this gullible. I wish that were true.

Don't be so sure they are not one and the same. It wouldn't be the first time cair operatives are actively working to discredit Robert and the anti-jihad movement.

There's no sentence that specifies "hard labor" but he can be sentenced to life w/o parole under the UCMJ.

Someone just asked me why FHTX waited so long to say that Hasan was not dead, but alive at a hospital. Here's why...

If local Muslims had found out that Hasan was alive and at some local hospital, they might have started a riot like the French yoots riots or swarmed the hospital like they've done at least once in AUstralia, demanding that kafir not touch the dead body of a Muslim.

CID evidently knew this might happen and chose to get him to a hospital for treatment and to put at least one Agent with him there, along with probably a few SWAT operators from the local PD.

As a former Army MP and CID Agent, I'd like to say how damn proud I am of my comrades in arms. Mess with the best, die like the rest. Fucking-A!

Follow up: Has CAIR's Awad, in his rush to deny a linkage between Islam and these murders - a linkage no MSM outlet has yet to seriously put forward - outed himself as Islamophobe? Honestly, how could he draw any such ridiculous conclusions unless he has an irrational fear of Islam?

Interesting to note that FOX couldn't push him off air fast enough once he actually did start talking about this linkage (in order to deny it).

As I poured my morning coffee I clicked through the channels hoping it had all been a bad dream.

Then I see Awad the CAIR spokesmodel on Fox telling everyone to stay calm and mentioning the potential for backlash....

Worse than a bad dream so far today. I have faith that intelligent people will see through this and point fingers at the guilty parties.

AM, Yom, GT or any other cultists: Why is it that your fellow cult members find violence comes so easily to them?

I second the sentiment, and it goes without saying that I share everyone's outrage, and would have a few choice words for Hasan myself. I have some personal connections to that part of the country, and as Jake and Elwood despised Illinois Nazis, I feel even more strongly about Texas jihadists.

That said, I'd ask we keep it clean here, keep a cool head, and -- this doesn't apply to everybody, but if it does -- lay off the caps. I would suggest we follow the boss's example from the "F*** CAIR" posting and at least throw in some asterisks.

Thanks.

Do you really believe that those folks will deal with you in any sort of a sincere way? It is rather like crediting a shoplifter's comment after being caught that he did not really mean it. You will just get deflection, evasion, tu quo que arguments, and finally crude mockery when dealing with that sort. There will be no honest exchange of views with them.

Los Angeles' KTLA also reported the cries of "Allah Akbar". It also reported that Hasan posted on radical web sites (didn't say what kind, but it was pretty clear), and showed security camera footage of him shopping in a convenience store in full shalwar kameez.

It looks like some people are actually getting a clue.

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I frequently say "America-hu akhbar" when I pass one of these freaks on the street.
They HATE that. It's like showing a crucifix to Dracula.

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I frequently say "America-hu akhbar" when I pass one of these freaks on the street.
They HATE that. It's like showing a crucifix to Dracula.

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So that none of the yahoos here can claim we American Muslims did not publicly condemn this act:

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North Texas Islamic Council

For Immediate Release: Dated: 11/05/2009

"The North Texas Muslim community is shocked at the killing that took place at Fort Hood, Texas today. The North Texas Muslim community strongly condemns the killings at Fort Hood and offers our deepest condolences to the affected families."

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ICGA (Islamic Center Great Austin) joins local and national Muslim organizations in their strong denouncement of the shooting incident at Fort Hood, TX. We fully endorse the statements from CAIR and ISNA.

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“We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible and ask that the perpetrators be punished to the full extent of the law. No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured.” -- CAIR

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“The soldier who led this attack was either mentally unstable, or was motivated by a perverted ideology for which there can be no justification. ISNA is proud of the many Muslim men and women who serve loyally in the United States military. We are grateful for the sacrifices made by all US soldiers, who represent the religious, racial and ethnic diversity of America, to defend the Constitution and our national security.” -- ISNA

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Our immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen, and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood.

We strongly emphasize that this attack and its perpetrator are in no way representative of Muslims or the peace-loving religion of Islam. The individual(s) who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted against the teachings of Islam. The Islamic Center of Greater Austin stand with their neighbors and join scores of other local and national Muslim organizations in offering prayers for the victims, condolences to their families, and assistance where needed.

Central Texas Muslims include many veterans and active-duty personnel in the US Armed Forces, and countless Muslims have served in the US military with distinction and honor. We call on all Texans to come together at this time and emphasize our common values, respect for the law, and duty to our country.

The Islamic Center of Greater Austin

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5 November 2009

Lt. General Robert W. Cone
Commandant, Ft. Hood Military Base
Ft. Hood, Texas
by email: fhrelocation@ hood.army. mil


Dear General Hood:


I am writing on behalf of the Muslim American Society (MAS), and our thousands of members throughout the United States, to express both our shock and our deep sadness in the aftermath of the shooting at Fort Hood that killed eleven individuals and left many more wounded. This unprovoked and unconscionable act of violence against American military personnel and civilians alike is utterly reprehensible, and against every tenet of faith and morality..


We offer our prayers and condolences to you, to the Fort Hood community, and especially to the families of loved ones of those who were killed and injured in this attack. May God Almighty comfort all of you in this time of great loss and sorrow.

Sincerely yours,

Imam Mahdi Bray
Executive Director
MAS Freedom (Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation)

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Peace
Abdullah

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Abdultard, when you say "peace" why do I hear WAR?

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Abdullah -

When will you condemn the Qur'an for teaching the rational for Major Hasan's one-man jihad?

(Remember - we are kuffars who have read the Qur'an. So the regular taquiyya is just ho-hum. I know! The Medina verses are really the sayings of a fake Mohammed! Only the Meccan verses count! Something like that.)

From AM...Our immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen...

Please do not add insult to injury by praying to Allah for the victims...It is Allah who is the prime victimizer...

From AM...Our immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen...

Please do not add insult to injury by praying to Allah for the victims...It is Allah who is the prime victimizer...

The reply to comic relief was an error...

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Abdultard quotes this email:

5 November 2009

Lt. General Robert W. Cone
Commandant, Ft. Hood Military Base
Ft. Hood, Texas
by email: fhrelocation@ hood.army. mil


Dear General Hood:

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Uh, Abdultard: The General's name is CONE, the base he commands is Fort HOOD. You guys pay such attention to detail.

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“The soldier who led this attack was either mentally unstable, or was motivated by a perverted ideology for which there can be no justification."


THE ANSWER: Motivated by a perverted ideology, ISLAM.

Who can expect attention to details when you're quickly cutting and pasting a completely non-empathetic and disingenuine piece of obligatory garbage.

By the way, remember that Abby appeared on scene here yesterday just as the story was breaking. He got his marcvhing orders from CAIR forthrightly.

awake,

Like a sixteen year old girl with a juicy rumor you run along now sissy, tell all your friends your conspiracy theory...I don't work for CAIR.

Peace
Abdullah

awake,

Like a sixteen year old girl with a juicy rumor you run along now sissy, tell all your friends your conspiracy theory...I don't work for CAIR.

Peace
Abdullah

Why is it that so many Muslims misunderstand "The religion of Peace" the SAME way?

Why?

Could it have ANYTHING to do with the commands in the Qu'ran to wage war on unbelievers?

Anything whatsoever? Who here besides Abdullah thinks this might, just might be the case?

In Islam, peace will only be achieved when the entire world is conquered and force to submit to Allah.

A copy of the Qur'an exists in Heaven (there is no accounting for taste). This means that the Qur'an is the actual word of Allah. Therefore, it may not be modified, interpreted or denied.

Most of the Qur'an (60% to 70%) is not concerned instructions for belief, but what MAY be done to unbelievers.

The history of Islam contains jihad after jihad. It is estimated that over 270 million people have been killed by muslims during the fourteen hundred year history of Islam.

'Nuff said.

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And just because it's true - we saw evidence ONCE AGAIN yesterday at Fort Hood:


alla = SATAN

moHAMed = Satan's drunken pedophile stooge.

moHAMedans = followers of SATAN's drunken pedophile stooge.

The world could be such fantastic place without islam and their PC MC LIEberal enablers.

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In the first link of this article it says that Mohamed Atta's notes were found in his baggage.

Since he was one of the pilots how flew the planes into the WTC it would be interesting to know which sort of baggage the guardian is refering to.

It's hard to believe that it was the baggege Atta took into the plane since all of the plane was melted and crushed.

Any information or sources?

Pete,
Atta flew from Portland, Maine to Boston on 9/11. For one reason or another, it seems his luggage never made it onto the hijacked flight. It was found at the Boston Airport after the attacks. It's a point of contention for many people. Conspiracy theorists figure the FBI faked the letter.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8937

America-hu akhbar!

Wonderful!!


Abdullah Mikail brings up Madhi Bray...interesting, but Bray has an alter ego...

Radical Defender

Beyond his criminal history and the voter registration issues, Bray has a history of defending accused terrorist supporters, and of offering misleading statements about his organization's history and his own actions.

He traveled repeatedly to Dallas in support of defendants in the Hamas-support case against the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF). After a 2007 trial ended in a hung jury, the five defendants were convicted following a retrial in November on 108 counts.

Bray also served as a character witness at a bond hearing for Sami Al-Arian, who was accused of providing support to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). After an initial trial in 2005 ended with a mix of acquittals and a deadlocked jury on other counts, Al-Arian pled guilty in April 2006 to conspiring to provide goods or services to the PIJ.

Bray similarly has defended Ali Al-Timimi, who is serving a life sentence for soliciting others to wage war against the United States and attempting to contribute services to the Taliban. The conviction, Bray said, "bodes ill" for the First Amendment.

Later this month, he will speak at a fundraiser for the Muslim Link newspaper with British Member of Parliament George Galloway. Galloway is fresh off a trip to Gaza, where he gave 100 vehicles loaded with supplies and an unspecified amount of cash directly to Hamas officials.

Bray has made at least two trips to Cairo to stand in solidarity with Muslim Brotherhood members facing military tribunals for membership in a banned organization. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan accompanied Bray on his second trip to Egypt to stand in solidarity with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

After the IPT reported on the trip, Bray wrote an article in response, arguing his stop in Cairo was one among many and indicates his opposition to military tribunals more than support for the Brotherhood.

"The reality is that my trip had less to do with the Muslim Brotherhood than with my organization's opposition to the human rights violations of Egypt-an American ally and the second largest recipient U.S. foreign aid."

Federal prosecutors say MAS was "founded as the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States." A telephone book described in testimony by a prosecution expert witness as listing Muslim Brotherhood members in the U.S. includes Ahmad Elkadi, Jamal Badawi, and Omar Soubani, MAS's three founding directors.

In 2004, the Chicago Tribune published an investigation on the Brotherhood in America, reporting that:

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members.

Some wanted the Brotherhood to remain underground, while others thought a more public face would make the group more influential."

Despite those documented links, Bray insists MAS was "established in America, and we are not an overt or covert arm of the Muslim Brotherhood."

On the same web page where Bray acknowledges being a registered voter is a slide show under the heading "Mahdi Bray's Photos." It includes images of demonstrations and political events in the U.S. One frame features a picture of Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, who was killed by an Israeli bomb attack in 2004. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, created in the wake of the Palestinian Intifada in 1987.

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