Dallas clinic apologizes to Muslim job applicant for telling her she can't wear hijab

Che faccia da schiaffi.

I wonder if the good Doctor graduated from an American medical school, or got her degree in Pakistan or Yemen...There's all kinds of Doctors in Islam, a few may even practice medicine, but I would not take my sick and broken body to any of them...

The Civil Rights Act requires companies to make accommodations for employees' religious beliefs....

This isn't about "religious belief". It's about ethnicity. In reality, Islam is not a race, and therefore Muslims are not an ethnic group. In political reality as deformed by PC MC, however, Muslims are in fact perceived to be an ethnic group -- one that in the years since 911 has become the most privileged of all ethnic groups. While this political reality of PC MC is irrational, it is not wholly disconnected from reality: in fact, 99 times out of a 100 when you see a Muslim, you see a person who looks ethnic. This demographic fact about Muslims then resonates powerfully with the PC MC anxiety about wanting to avoid any prejudice or bigotry against Muslims. In the meantime, Muslims have also over the year effectively communicated their threats of violence and capability of delivering violence, and this exerts an added force on the semi-consciousness of the PC MC Westerner -- an additional motivation, beside his own anxious solicitude toward ethnic peoples, to accord this one particular perceived ethnic group even more considerations, because of that ever-present fear of getting one's clinic blown up, or patients and staff poisoned by some chemical or biological agent; and so forth.

Let me get this straight. She was at a Job Interview when she was told this, so she knew one of the conditions of employment was this rule. Now they are interested in giving her a job even though before she has even been employed she wants seperate and distinct treatment. They are going to continue with sensitivity training. The stupid gutless dorks. Next it will be a seperate prayer room, foot-bath, toilets not facing towards Mecca etc etc.

There was no need to apologize. There are many reasons, beginning with matters of hygiene, that might make wearing the hijab a potential danger for patients. That should have been clearly said at first.

But there is another issue that ought to be raised, and raised now. If this woman is so devout that she wears a hijab in the West, then it is right and just to assume that she is a truly devout Muslim. And if she is a truly devout Believer in Islam, then we must also assume that she believes that the Qur'an is the uncreated and literal word of God. And if she believes that, then we also have a perfect right to assume that she agrees with 9.29 and 9.5, and another hundred or more verses in the Qur'an that can be quoted, and that, in the case of any possible malpractice suit by patients, might be used as examples of negligence on the part of the hospital.

Doctors who themselves suffer from communicable illnesses often cannot obtain malpractice insurance. And the reason is this: imagine if a patient claimed that he had caught, say, a particular form of Hepatitis from his physician. He may well not have done so, but it is a lot harder to convince a jury of that if the doctor in fact does have that form of Hepatitis.

Now imagine a patient who believes he (or she) has been badly treated by a Muslim physician. And imagine a good malpractice lawyer bringing, before the court, the blood curdling Qur'anic passages that suggest the doctor in question will be indifferent to, at best, the fate of Infidels. Do the counsels of such hospitals really think that can't or won't happen? We have already had a case or two where a relative of a patient has accused a Muslim physician of deliberately ignoring the patient (in one case, the patient was obviously Jewish). This is not a theoretical problem about future litigation. It is a real problem. And at the very least, those who are so militantly and aggressively Muslim as Hena Zaki are particularly worrisome.

Would you like to work side-by-side in a hospital with someone who believes that God tells you to "slay the Unbelievers"? No? Why not?

To mention a little example of how mahoundian hospital staff behavior can manifest itself in the lines of what Hugh has described, does anyone remember the mahoundian nurse from Porkistan which (not who) left a patient dying of cancer covered in his vomit for hours, because it (not he) "couldn't clean up the puke of an infidel "?

Yeah, continue your sensitivity training - IDIOTS!~

The hijab is not a religious token but a symbol of the inequality of men and women. To be precise, it's against all democratic constitutions.

Are there useful idiots in the State of Texas?

Next step: Refuse to wash your hand to the elbow, just like in the U.K. last year:

Dr Mark Enright, professor of microbiology at Imperial College London, said: "To wash your hands properly, and reduce the risks of MRSA and C.difficile, you have to be able to wash the whole area around the wrist.

"I don't think it would be right to make an exemption for people on any grounds. The policy of bare below the elbows has to be applied universally."

Dr Charles Tannock, a Conservative MEP and former hospital consultant, said: "These students are being trained using taxpayers' money and they have a duty of care to their patients not to put their health at risk.

"Perhaps these women should not be choosing medicine as a career if they feel unable to abide by the guidelines that everyone else has to follow."

But the Islamic Medical Association insisted that covering all the body in public, except the face and hands, was a basic tenet of Islam.

"No practising Muslim woman - doctor, medical student, nurse or patient - should be forced to bare her arms below the elbow," it said.

Then you, as a moslem, also shouldn't feel 'forced' to have a career in medicine or expect to be treated by a kufr when sick.

[rolls_eyes]

NOW... BEND OVER...!!!

Recently I sat with my mother while she underwent an extensive eye exam relating to eye surgery and procedures she had undergone. The doctor she saw was not her surgeon, but a doctor with whom she'd become familiar.

The doctor was a Muslim woman with a hijab. I sat there and thought about how she must have been taught that non-Muslims are inferior, that my mother was an infidel, that she was worth less than the lowest of Muslims. This woman was caring for my mother's eyes. She may or may not have been competent, compassionate, moral...all I could think of is that her inputs, that which she had been taught, was that we were less than she was.

I figured, possibly wrongly, that if there were two gurneys in the hallway, the kuffar would wait. What loyalty did she have to her patients? How could she demonstrate it? She could remove the shackles of her first loyalty in order to demonstrate the loyalty she should show to her patients.

I'm tired of reading about Muslim doctors supporting the worldwide jihad. They are bloodsuckers of Western academia and knowledge; if they "convert" to caring about the infidel patients, it is an exception, rather than the rule. There is a Muslim-operated free clinic in Los Angeles that is open to everyone, so I can see that there are dawa places for infidels to go. But at what cost?

I was in the ER and was sent a Muslim ER doc. What do we do when we get them? What would you all do?

She now officially has carte blanche to do or not do anything she feels like or doesn't feel like, and any comments about her competence or work ethic will be evidence of "systemic Islamophobia." You go girl...

Do not allows muslims to provide health care to you or your family. They are not serving you well and may even be hurting you. Islam does not recognize the hippocratic oath.

Do you really think a muslim doctor holds this to be sacred:
"To look upon his children as my own brothers"

No, they do not. They look upon your children as dirty animals.

Stay as far away from muslim doctors and health care workers as you can.

"Are there useful idiots in the State of Texas?"

There are useful idiots everwhere. It is safe to assume that every city and large town throughout Texas and throughout all of the Deep South has a majority of PC MCs -- at least, PC MC as measured by their idiocy with regard to the problem of Muslims and of Islam.

One should not confuse the issues.

One issue is whether or not Muslim doctors and other Muslim health personnel can provide the best care they know how to non-Muslims. Clearly many can, and do. But that is not because they are good Muslims, but rather because they are inattentive or to some degree lapsed Muslims, who do not quite take Islam, its texts, its tenets, and what may be called its attitudes -- the attitudes that come naturally to those who take those texts and tenets to heart -- completely seriously.

But there will be other Muslim doctors and nurses who will harbor other, more hostile and malevolent attitudes, that can be expressed in any number of ways. It could be expressed in any number ofr ways: a Muslim docotr who is notoriously rough in performing colonoscopies on non-Muslims. A Muslim doctor who does not exhibit a sympathetic interest in non-Muslim patients, who does not alert them, for example, to the problem of side effects, or drug interactions, when he is known to do so with Musliim patients. And so on.

And the main problem, for the would-be employers of such people, is that of understanding the greater liability problem. In cases where a doctor seems to have a pattern of negligence, part of the plaintiff's case could consist of reference to that doctor's presumed deepest beliefs. Either he accepts the attitudes toward non-Muslims that are all over the Qur'an and Hadith, or he does not. He will have to openly testify. And the mere reading out of a dozen or five dozen passages, to a jury, bloodcurdling in their contents, will have its effect -- and should.

I gather that, to be kind, and not to waste her time, CareNow (the Dallas clinic in question) informed Dr. Hena Zaki (where did she receive her medical training? Did she repeat that training in this country? And her Boards? Most doctors trained abroad are required to re-train here), that headgear such as the hijab was not acceptable at the clinic. This was early on, not after she had been interviewed, vetted, and solemnly offered a position. No, no such position was offered her, and it is unclear if the CareNow people are being manipulated into promising this unpleasant lady a job, even if they would not have hired her on other grounds, in order to shut her up.

But they have no duty to hire her. They can subject her to the entire process and reject her, and they are not required to explain their judgment as to her fitness. And what about the hijab matter? Again, it is a matter of an across-the-board rule for the kind of headgear that may be difficult to keep sterile (I doubt if Sikh turbans are allowed either). Nosocomial infections are already a big problem everywhere.

And what if that perfectly legitimate justification is by some crazy court disallowed? The CareNow people can also raise another issue, raise it straight on. And that is the issue of her stated beliefs, and the problem of liability from non-Muslim patients dissatisfied with her care.

This is a real issue. No one is addressing it. No one is thinking about it. Check JAMA, and see if you can find anyone discussing this.

Would a follower of Eugene Blanche Terre, the South African white supremacist, who had obtained a job treating black patients in an American city, who then was accused of negligence, in his practice of, say, obstetrics, not his own views brought to the attention of the court in a lawsuit for malpractice?

Would another doctor, known to be a Nazi sympathizer, be hired by a hospital in Skokie, Illinois, or New York City? What about potential liability -- of the hospital -- for hiring such a person, to treat a patient base that included many people that particular doctor regarded as subhuman?

CareNow should dare that lady to sue them, and should let it be known that as part of its defense, its lawyers will raise the issue of what this lady believes, or can be held to believe, about non-Muslims, and why that matters.

Let CAIR, let the MSA, let all those groups worry about that possibility. Because that, inevitably, in our litigious society, is coming.

Isn't she supposed to be in the house, barefoot and pregnant? What the hell is she doing working as a doctor? Who at CAIR wrote her talking points for her?

You know, it amazes me that this chick, who has more than earned the title of stupid bitch, will use her Muslim-ness to undermine the freedoms and equality that we enjoy in this country by giving special favors to people who don't deserve them, i.e., Muslims who whine about getting their feelings hurt. This is B.S. She will be the first one they throw back in the house and impregnate and lock the door on if they are ever allowed to take over the country. Hena Zaki of Plano, you are the ultimate dumbshit, girlfriend.

I'm sure the the clinic got a call from our dear leader and were told to knock it off. Remember, Obama is going to make it safe for women in America to wear the jihad, er, I mean, hijab.

Boycott this "doctor" 's practice.

Look at those dead jihadi eyes!

They should have only given her permission to wear a
large paper bag over her head!

Maybe I'm an Islamaphobe but it would make me uncomfortable to have this hijabbbed dead-eyed death cultist palpitate my testicles.

Any doctor should be willing to do what doctors in this country normally are required to do. That includes observing the standards of hygiene required. In England last year there was a brouhaha (see the 7:42 posting above), when Muslim women medical students refused to follow the required practice, and insisted on covering their arms all the way to the wrist.

The 7:42 posting,is reprinted below:

"Dr. Mark Enright, professor of microbiology at Imperial College London, said: "To wash your hands properly, and reduce the risks of MRSA and C.difficile, you have to be able to wash the whole area around the wrist.

"I don't think it would be right to make an exemption for people on any grounds. The policy of bare below the elbows has to be applied universally."

Dr Charles Tannock, a Conservative MEP and former hospital consultant, said: "These students are being trained using taxpayers' money and they have a duty of care to their patients not to put their health at risk.

"Perhaps these women should not be choosing medicine as a career if they feel unable to abide by the guidelines that everyone else has to follow."

But the Islamic Medical Association insisted that covering all the body in public, except the face and hands, was a basic tenet of Islam.

"No practising Muslim woman - doctor, medical student, nurse or patient - should be forced to bare her arms below the elbow," it said.

If Muslim doctors,

I'm guessing Dr. Zaki is Egyptian. Where "A doctor may not be indifferent to religious matters. The gulf between medical science and religion is not vast. The doctor has great weight in influencing his patients and in righteously guiding their orientation towards true Islam among Muslims and non-Muslims"
Medicine and religion does help alot people..? however
"Some Muslim medical students in Britain, boycott classes and leave test questions unanswered if they involve alcohol-related diseases or sexually-transmitted diseases on the pretext that both deal with conduct forbidden in their faith"
http://www.ahl-alquran.com/English/show_article.php?main_id=3135

Hugh, I'm wounded to the core that you don't read MY posts....

[sobbing]

Interesting that Robert and Hugh have cried that this is a "hygiene" issue when such an issue is not mentioned in this or any other article concerning this particular case. In medicine, surgeons and others are required often times to COVER THEIR HEADS because of hygiene. To prevent stray hairs from contaminating areas. So too, do the people who prepare your food. It is a law in most cities that those who prepare food must cover their heads for reasons of hygiene.

How then, pray tell, does this woman's hijab somehow negatively impact her level of cleanliness?

Hugh, the case you mention is a very interesting one to me because of the ridiculous nature of the claims set forth by either the Muslims or perhaps a misguided health official. You know full well that Muslims are required to be in a state of wudu (ritual ablution) before offering salat. This always includes washing your arms UP TO YOUR ELBOW!

How then, pray tell, would a Muslimah say that she can not wash herself properly up to the elbows? Is it possible that too much clothing is getting in to places it shouldn't and causing contamination? I totally see that, that's an acceptable reason to say a Muslim should rethink their position. But hygiene? We're required to wash that region almost always 5 times daily already, why would we take objection to doing it for the sake of hygiene?

Point blank. She was the subject of discrimination based on her head covering. The hospital reviewed their policy and decided it should be changed. She's qualified and will see patients. Life will go on.

THOUSANDS of hospital patients are in danger of catching deadly superbugs because Muslim medical students refuse to follow new hygiene rules.
The Department of Health has ordered staff across the country to be "bare past the elbow" in a bid to halt the spread of infections like MRSA and C.diff.

They say the rule is essential to ensure workers are properly able to wash their hands and wrists.

But female Muslim students training in hospitals in England have refused to implement the directive because Islam forbids women exposing more than their hands and face in public.

A report from Leicester University said female students "had difficulty" complying with the "roll-up" order.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article758000.ece#ixzz0VpqJdjSf

and if you have a strong stomach, read this preposterous arrogant twaddle

http://www.imana.org/PDF%20Files/IMANAEthicsPaperPart1.pdf

Right...

First,squawk about the headgear,beard etc.
Next comes the special sinks and prayer time allowances.
Then comes special holidays.
All the while,suing/threatening your employer.
Throw in some demonstrations,lite vandalisim...
Then outright fabrications,heavier violence...

Then Bilge Tear croaks because the pious,learned doctor
of the newly renamed AllahNow clinic refuses to treat
the infidel dog!

And no one says a word for fear of being called an islamophobe.

Just a little inside observation from Eurabia, jizya-paying-district of Alemanya: Since we have tough anti-discrimination laws in effect (so far no sensitivity-training here, but don't give Europeans any ideas) employers refrain from being honest in job interviews. I myself (conducting job interviews for a medium sized company) have changed considerably: I loved to be as hard, honest, demanding and encouraging as I could, as I wanted hardworking, honest and dedicated people fittig into our team. I also used to give feedback whenever a turned down applicant wanted to.
Today I strictly follow legal advice in order not to be sued (mostly by mohammedans): Be completely neutral during the interview - and if you turn down an applicant, always and only and only once use one legally rock proof standard written sentence: "We have to inform you we have chosen another candidate. Sincerly ..."

Nothing more. Period. What a way to kill the spirit of excellence and entreprenneurship.

I can't make up my mind if such a degree of stupidity and cowardice on the part of the hospital in its response to this issue is more amazing, disgusting or scary. But it is certainly all three.

It's hard to decide if such a display of inexcusable stupidity and abect cowardice on the part of the hospital in this issue is more amazing, disgusting, or scary. But it is certainly all three. The officials of the hospital who made the decision to apologise to this Dr. Zaki should be immediately transferred to the hospital's psychiatric ward for intensive care and observation. WHEN WILL THIS INSANITY EVER END???

It's hard to decide if the display of inexcusable stupidity and abject cowardice by the hospital in dealing with this issue is more amazing, disgusting, or scary. But it is certainly all three. The hospital officials who decided to apologise to this Dr. Zaki should immediately be forced to undergo a thorough psychological examination and charged and sued by the other doctors, patients and hospital workers for endangering their health and well being. WHEN WILL THIS INSANITY EVER END???

Perhaps JW has been contributory in discovering yet a new mental disease------PDS, i.e., pathetic dhimmitude syndrome.

You can look up Dr. Hena Zaki's credentials yourself on the Texas Medical Board's web site: http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_NoticeVerif.asp

Once again we have a Muslim troll who asserts something, then we have a helpful JW reader supply the kill shot that utterly shoots that Muslim (Gerbil Tea) out of the water --

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/dallas-clinic-apologizes-to-muslim-job-applicant-for-telling-her-she-cant-wear-hijab.html#comment-613644

-- and once again, for the thousandth time, we have that Muslim slink out of the thread and disappear as though nothing happened.

This bothers me. I am an RN. One reason we do not wear caps is because they carry germs and cannot be cleaned.

Doctors are asked to not wear ties, they also come in contact with patients, their cloths, and surfaces that harbor germs. Long sleeves also pick up and carry germs patient to patient.

Perhaps it s more appropriate for the Muslim doctor to spend some time with infection control, and learn the importance of not exposing her patients to the germs harbored on and in the folds of the headscarf that she wears from patient to patient.

Man I am glad we don't have that civil rights legislation here.

So looks like one can mess with Texas!