Fort Hood shooter a devout, observant Muslim

Evidently he was not a convert to Islam, but was a lifelong — and observant — Muslim. “At least 12 killed in shooting at Fort Hood, Tex.,” by William Branigin and Carrie Johnson for the Washington Post, November 5 (thanks to Peter Collier):

[…] Hasan was a psychiatrist, according to acquaintances of his in Washington, and a Pentagon source said he was recently reassigned from Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington to work with soldiers at Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood.

Hasan was a U.S. citizen, according to Virginia voting records, and his parents are Palestinians from the West Bank, according to his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church. He was born at Arlington Hospital Center.

Hasan, 39, had lived in Montgomery County, Md., and Arlington, Va., in addition to Roanoke and nearby Vinton, Va. He graduated from Virginia Tech and earned his medical degree at Bethesda’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, records show.

Hasan attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring and was “very devout,” according to Faizul Khan, a former imam at the center. Khan said Hasan attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues.

Khan also said Hasan applied to an annual matrimonial seminar that matches Muslims looking for spouses. “I don’t think he ever had a match, because he had too many conditions,” Khan said.

“We never got into details of worldly affairs or politics,” the former imam said of his conversations with Hasan. “Mostly religious questions. But there was nothing extremist in his questions. He never showed any frustration. . . . He never showed any . . . wish for vengeance on anybody.”

However, a fellow Army officer who worked with Hasan told Fox News Channel that Hasan had expressed strong opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“He would make comments to other individuals about how we should not be in the war in the first place,” Col. Terry Lee told the network. “He made those comments, and he stuck strongly to his faith, but as soldiers we have a duty to follow orders from our commander in chief, and our political views are set aside.”

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Authorities were concerned about Fort Hood shooter because of Net postings about suicide bombings, etc. -- but did nothing
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  1. says

    This is just emblematic of how our alliances with Muslims in the war against Islamofascism is a mistake. Islam IS fascism. Just listen to Geert Wilders – he knows.

  2. says


    Oh, I’m sure his Islamic religious devotion is just a coincidence. (sarc/off)

    And even under the *remote* (wink) possibility that jihad has something to do with it, the hard Left has assured us that we can defeat “violent extremism” by promoting “mutual understanding,” or encouraging mental health counseling.

    Or that we can just use peaceful financial and legal techniques rather alternatives like war. But simply freezing terrorist assets won’t solve jihad and just hauling jihadists into courts isn’t the answer either.

    We must confront the heart of the problem: jihad itself. Without that, we can twist in diplomatic, sociological, financial, and legal winds all we want without really achieving anything.

  3. says

    America would be served best by having no Muslims in its military. For that matter, America would be far better off were there no Muslims in America at all. Ditto for all the West. Those who would dispute this, go ahead and counter my argument (temporary economic rationales don’t count for long term purposes and are really of no consequence, particularly because the survival of Western liberty is at stake).

    What’s the upside to Muslims in the West? So we can modernize them? Ain’t worth it. Rescue the good Islam out there? A fool’s errand because there is no good Islam. Show the Muslim world we mean them well? Another fool’s errand, one which will never be appreciated.

    We should deal with Muslims as we dealt with Communists during the Cold War. Work at times with some against others but never, I mean never, forget who the enemy of Western liberty truly is. Disagreements with this position, not rooted in any way extolling Islam or how it’s really a good thing after all, will be welcomed.

  4. says

    “…but as soldiers we have a duty to follow orders from our commander in chief, and our political views are set aside.”

    That’s right. But for true Muslims, they only follow orders from their warmongering “prophet” Mohammed and for the benefit of the global umma to spread Islam until the whole world submits to Allah. Political views aren’t set aside because for good, pious and observant Mohammedans, their political views are informed by, dictated by and intertwined with Islam. Politics = religion = Islam.

  5. says

    “We never got into details of worldly affairs or politics,” the former imam said of his conversations with Hasan. “Mostly religious questions. But there was nothing extremist in his questions.

    Nothing extremist, said the Imam.
    Perhaps their perspective of what is extremist and ours, especially in retrospect, differs somewhat.

  6. says

    “…was ‘very devout,’ according to Faizul Khan, a former imam at the center.”

    I guess we can eliminate the possibility that he was an “extremist.”

  7. says

    “Unfortunately, based on past experience, we also urge American Muslims, and those who may be perceived to be Muslim, to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their religious institutions from possible backlash.

    “We ask that individuals and institutions review advice on security procedures contained in CAIR’s “Muslim Community Safety Kit,’ which is available online at http://www.cair.com.”

    Part of the CAIR response: the reoccurring phantom backlash from bigoted Americans.

  8. says

    Oh what a pity for the poor Muslims (not the dead infidels). Another event to overcome which has nothing to do with Islam. (so think Stockholm Syndrome leftists).

    One can assume leftists are seeing this jihadist’s picture for the first time, initially giddy he appears to be a typical (Anglo, capitalist) white male, quickly turning morbid when they read his Islamic (multicultural) name.

  9. says

    Earliest reports state that a female shot him and was injured herself. And he lives to face the Mujahadeen Music where witnesses will be called to give accounts of his jihadi motivation. Wake up AMerica

  10. says

    “We never got into details of worldly affairs or politics,” the former imam said of his conversations with Hasan. “Mostly religious questions. But there was nothing extremist in his questions.

    Nothing extremist, said the Imam.
    Perhaps their perspective of what is extremist and ours, especially in retrospect, differs somewhat.

  11. says

    Earliest reports state that a female shot him and was injured herself. And he lives to face the Mujahadeen Music where witnesses will be called to give accounts of his jihadi motivation. Wake up AMerica

  12. says

    Holy cow, I’m watching Fox news and I just can’t believe what I’m seeing. These is a real disconnect from reality going on here, absolutely unbelievable. Apparently the Kuffar that shot the wild mohammedan was indeed a woman police officer! The brave officer was shot,and after surgery she will survive. She was the hero here! Interesting the terrorist, was stopped by a WOMAN!!! HAHA!!!

  13. says

    FOX reports – Female officer (alive) shot perp (alive). How cosmically apropos – a weak, intellectually sub-standard female takes down a brave and strong mujahid. Oh sweet irony.

  14. says

    When are people going to wake up?
    We can never, ever trust a Muslim in a position of trust or authority in the West.
    To have Muslims in our armed forces or to give them access to anything that might be used to harm or murder, including cars, baseball bats, scalpels and a million other potentially deadly tools, is insanity.
    A Muslim who takes the ideology of Islam seriously owes his or her allegiance only to the global Islamic community, the Ummah; and the Ummah has been at war with the rest of humanity for 1400 years, and is obliged by Islamic texts and doctrine to continue waging this war until everything belongs to Allah.

  15. says

    Wellington, did you reverse your position on deporting Muslims from the West? Or was there a loophole in your otherwise tough comments above?

  16. says

    People: that CAIR statement

    “we also urge American Muslims, and those who may be perceived to be Muslim, to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their religious institutions”

    sounds a bit creepy, to me, in light of what we have seen happening, of late, in Egypt and Pakistan and in Jerusalem, when the call goes out to ‘defend Islam’.

    Because it sounds like a coded version of the same catch-cry which in other places is used to trigger the Mohammedan riots, rock-throwing, attacks on policemen, burning of churches and homes and businesses, lynchings, et cetera.

    If you are an American *non-Muslim* living in the vicinity of any sort of Mohammedan colony, better keep both eyes open.

    And the Infidel police would be wise to keep their wits about them, because this Mohammedan managed to kill eleven American soldiers, and the wannabe mujahids will be feeling all inspired and aggro.

    Whatever the Mohammedans do (and I suspect some at least may be itching to run riot through infidel neighbourhoods, by way of ‘revenge’ for the death of the Muslim gang boss that got shot by the cops not so long ago) I think they will do their best to make it look like a aggrieved response to some kind of dastardly infidel ‘hate crime’ (even if they have to manufacture such a crime, themselves…e.g. a mosque-burning, a Quran desecration).

  17. says

    “Fort Hood shooter a devout, observant Muslim”

    Well, he certainly proved that today, didn’t he? He performed the ultimate Islamic sacrament – killing kuffir.

  18. says

    Yep, Mike_W.

    But the covered women (I think they’re women, anyway) down the street from me are just going to have to endure the daggers my eyes shoot at them on a regular basis.

    Wonder what their Muslim Communtiy Safety kit has to counter those.

  19. says

    Hasan was a U.S. citizen, according to Virginia voting records, and his parents are Palestinians from the West Bank, according to his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church. He was born at Arlington Hospital Center.”

    So, born and raised entirely in the United States. But his parents are described as “Palestinians” (that’s a little progress, for Sirhan Sirhan, also a “Palestinian” Arab,was carefully described as a “J0rdanian”) and according to the “Palestinians” themselves, one is a “Palestinian” forever, if one’s ancestors were “Palestinians” (that is, Arabs, no matter how recently arrived in the area known in the Western world as “Palestine,” wherever one is born or is brought up).

    This case, and so many others — the Marine who deserted his post in Iraq, to flee back to his Lebanese Muslim family, and then, captured (or having given himself up)yet again fled, this time from American authorities, or the Muslim soldier who rolled a grenade into the tent where his officers were sleeping, killing two, or the Muslim sailor who signalled from shipboard to Muslims that he was ready, willing, and able to share secrets with them that would make their attacks on a ship, his very own ship, easier — all point to the terrible security problem, all over the Western world, from allowing Muslims to serve in the military, and the police, and indeed, the Western governments have fallen all over themselves trying to recruit Muslims when they should be trying like hell to keep them out, keep them far away from any state secrets, or any knowledge of where weapons are cached, or any ability to alert fellow Muslims as to weaknesses in the Infidel security arrangements.

    This problem is not one of the occasional “lone madman.” It’s a systemic problem. It cannot go away. It can only be contained if one is first willing to recognize, and admit, that what Islam incuclates is permanently dangerous to non-Muslims, and that we must assume that those who call themselves Muslims adhere as well to Sura 9 (see 9.29 and 9.5) and to many other passages in the Qur’an that constitute the so-called “Jihad verses” (as they are called in the Calcutta Qur’an Petition, which see), and that on that basis, they may with justification be regarded as agents of Islam, intent on working for the same goals, albeit perhaps by different methods, as Osama Bin Laden, or Khaled Meshal, or Ayman Al-Zawahiri, or any of the other figures who head terrorist groups — Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Lashkar Jihad, Ansar al-Islam, Jundullah, and so on.

  20. says

    “or the Muslim soldier who rolled a grenade into the tent where his officers were sleeping, killing two…”

    He was a Muslim-American sergeant, not merely a “soldier”.

  21. says

    “Devout Muslim”

    Translation:
    “complete psychopath, sociopath and expert with knives at cutting necks and killing kuffar”.

  22. says

    “Fort Hood shooter a devout, observant Muslim.”

    Of course he is. Which means he must follow allah’s dictum to “slay and be slain in allah’s cause” for which the devout, observant Muslim gets the islamic “Paradise.”

    Right. All made-up by Mohamet. And still claiming bodies today.

  23. says

    From the story here: Authorities were concerned about Fort Hood shooter because of Net postings about suicide bombings, etc. — but did nothing

    this comment from this person:
    snaitsrhcothtaed1

    “Hasan did his duty and should be praised. He was fighting christian fundamentalists and terrorists who deserved to die.”

    My reply to that person: Are you being sarcastic? I hope so. If you are not, then you certainly are no less a sick, monsterous animal than Hasan. And, I urge other commentors here to express similar sentiments to you.

  24. says

    “In Egypt, he [Napoleon] had endured the Jihad and felt its insanity: so seemed the self destructive fervor of Muslim Holy War to him and to his men he lead into battle in the desert. And, in an act of pure Jihad fanaticism, General Kleber, who later replaced Bonaparte as commander-in-chief Egypt, was later stabbed to death by a young Syrian clerk called Soleiman who was not particularly interested in ridding his country of a foreign occupant, but who, as a devout Muslim, wished to do a great deed “for the Glory of God.” Killing this important infidel soldier seemed the best way to do it, and by his execution to become a martyr and obtain entry into Paradise.” — “Jihad” by Paul Fergosi

  25. says

    First time that i read about muslims in the us military, i just couldnt believe it.It simply made no sense to me. But i thought, well, maybe they know better than we. But then i also knew about lots of muslims in the french military, and that within time there would be many high grade military there.

    Well, in the end the battle will be fought, but frankly, i have no idea how if even our own people are so PC that evry time you try to tell them, the first thing they do is critice our own religion, and ourselves for look what we did in the past etc etc.

    It is really sad my friends.I think we better try surrealism here, who knows, might even work better.

  26. says

    this comment from this person:
    snaitsrhcothtaed1

    “Hasan did his duty and should be praised. He was fighting christian fundamentalists and terrorists who deserved to die.”
    snaitsrhcothtaed1 just why are Muslims like you so frightened of christian fundamentalists?? could it be that you really fear the lord and are to scared to reject Islam for Christianity because deep down you know that the words of the bible are not corrupt as Muslims claim and that just maybe it could be your following a false faith??
    and with over 12000 terrorist attacks by Muslims since 9\11 i assume you are referring to the handful of attacks by non Muslims or are you calling the resistance to jihadist attacks by the kuffers terrorism??

  27. says

    I wouldn’t get excited about trusting Dr. Zuhdi Jasser. He has stated in interviews that there are no violent passages in the Qu’ran. He is either a simpleton or is lying. Since he says he reads the Qu’ran everyday it appears to be the latter.

    Also recall Hesham Islam, that paragon of virtue, and the Stephen Coughlin debacle:

    “In a 333-page report, Coughlin warned that the Quran and other Islamic texts make clear that it is an obligatory requirement for Muslims to wage jihad against non-Muslims and that this requirement is also routinely taught in Saudi schools. Coughlin says this may explain why Saudia Arabia is the largest foreign source of suicide bombers in Iraq.

    “In contrast, Deputy Secretary England, who has made a major effort to ingratiate himself with ISNA and other front groups, has characterized Coughlin as “excessively negative”.

    Some would argue that England is “excessively sensitive”, at least when it comes to Hesham Islam.

    “The constant emphasis on the Islamic connection to terrorism offends Muslims, undermining the President’s efforts to portray Islam as a religion of peace,” England said. “If we can just be more positive about Islam in our words and thoughts, it will have an uplifting effect on our relations with these people.”

    As Robert would say, read it all.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1600

  28. says

    From snaitsrhcothtaed1:

    ‘We need more martyrs like Hasan. I wish he only had more weapons to take the whole base out’

    yep…sounds like another pious Muslim, just like the ones that are often discussed here and in other locations…

    Islam…feel the love?

  29. says

    Yes, yes Pulsar. A Muslim’s solution is always to take all the non-Muslims out. Not very creative or clever. They appear to be brought up with no problem solving skills whatsoever.

    It is so calculated when CAIR talks about fear of a backlash. There are 13 dead soldiers at Ft. Hood as of this writing, with probably at least 100 distraught family members and friends, and all CAIR wants to talk about is the imaginary fears of safe and sound Muslims who’ve had no attack on them and whom the majority most likely looks upon this event with favor?

    CAIR, go fuck yourself.

  30. says

    Spot on, Wellington. Our constitution is not a suicide pact. We need to take the measures necessary to ensure the survival of civilization.

  31. says

    Spot on, Wellington. Our constitution is not a suicide pact. We need to take the measures necessary to ensure the survival of civilization.

  32. says

    No disagreement here, Wellington. I don’t see how we keep Muslims in the military now. I’m not even sure we should be doing military training with Muslims anywhere in the world.

  33. says

    Wellington wrote:

    “America would be served best by having no Muslims in its military. For that matter, America would be far better off were there no Muslims in America at all.”

    Well said, Wellington.

    PS. Ignore Hesperado. He is merely looking for attentive recognition of himself that all of us “asymptotics” (in his estimation), have been flawed in our words and actions over the years to fit his theme that he was the “Nostradamus” regarding Islam, and not Robert, Hugh, et al.

    He has a not so subtle way of trying to call us all hypocrites, does he not?

    “Monday morning quarterback” does indeed come to mind.

  34. says

    “America would be served best by having no Muslims in its military. For that matter, America would be far better off were there no Muslims in America at all.”
    Wellington i know i am going to get jumped but there are Muslims that don’t follow the jihadist line like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser with the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
    and there are many other Muslims like dr.jasser that don’t follow the Muslim brotherhood\cair line but i guess the problem is telling them apart

  35. says

    Sounds like more of the typical Muslim victim-mongering to me.
    It’s always the same, before or after some Islamic atrocity.

    Islamic spokesman:
    “The Muslim community fears a backlash following next week’s slaughter of kaffur pigs”.

  36. says

    Vee,
    I reckon many of those covered women will feel validated by your steely-eye daggers, especially if they are recent Western converts to Islam, all warm-fuzzy and glowing with politically correct self-righteousness; and if they are life-long Muslimahs, well then, those steely eyed glances are all the more reason to continue hating the infidel.

    Seriously though, I more pity the Muslims than despise them.
    They are being used and don’t know it.

  37. says

    > ..POLYGAMIST…

    Your racist diatribe has no place in this discussion, but as a Moby, you’re already aware of this fact.

    Moderators: This Moby should be banned.

  38. says

    No inconsistency, Hesperado. America and the West would be far better off were there no Muslims here but now that they are it will be deuce difficult, if not impossible, to get rid of them as you would like (and I would like too). Where we differ is on the feasibility, constitutionally and legally, of doing so.

  39. says

    Ethoman wrote:

    Apparently the Kuffar that shot the wild mohammedan was indeed a woman police officer! The brave officer was shot,and after surgery she will survive. She was the hero here!
    …………………….

    So glad to hear this! Initially I’d heard she’d been killed. She is also, reportedly, a civilian police officer.

    Hasan reportedly wrote an online article titled, “Martyrdom in Islam versus Suicide Bombing”. He noted that “your intention is important and Allah knows best””in other words, the old Jihadist idea that suicide attacks aren’t really suicide if your intention is to murder Kuffars in the process.

    Apparently Hasan was investigated for some of this stuff, but it seems the military”unbelievably”decided to just transfer him to Fort Hood.

    Despite all of the above, there was Anderson Cooper on CNN, nattering on about “post traumatic stress syndrome” (even though Hasan had never served in a war zone). Re Hasab’s serving as a councilor to soldiers returning from combat at Walter Reed Hospital, Cooper vapoured on about “vicarious grief” and “compassion fatigue”.

    You’d honestly think from the above that Hasan was some dedicated doctor who served his fellow soldiers for years in a war zone, and one day found he broke down and couldn’t stop crying. If this was the case, I would feel nothing but compassion for this man.

    Instead, Hasan is a murderous Jihadist who killed twelve of his fellow soldiers”and tried to kill thirty-one more. What will it take for people to recognize that he is the enemy?

  40. says

    So what if not all Muslims follow the jihadist line? Not all Communist Party members during the Cold War or Nazi Party members during the 1930s followed all the teachings of their respective totalitarian ideologies. But whether it’s Islam, Marxism or Nazism, all these ideologies are evil because each of them calls for certain groups of human beings (non-believers for Islam, the upper and middle classes for Marxism and particular ethnic groups like Jews and Slavs for Nazism) to either be killed or placed in a subordinate status forever.

    You see, Islam is rotten to the core (no other major religion is) and there’s no fixing it, just as there is no fixing Marxism or Nazism, and so the fact that certain adherents of a totalitarian ideology are not violent or ready to act out all the tenets of their creed is largely irrelevant. The creed still remains, cannot be fixed and is evil. I don’t know why more people like yourself can’t grasp this.

  41. says

    snaitsrhcothtaed1 : We need more martyrs like Hasan. I wish he only had more weapons to take the whole base out.

    Very poor bait, snaitsrhcothtaed1. At least AM, Yom and the other islamic drones try to make a halfhearted attempt at the game.

    1/10, please try harder.