Islamic jihadists routinely characterize anti-terror efforts as part of a "war on Islam." But of course, there is no war on terror, and there is no war on Islam. There is just the Islamic jihad against the U.S. and the West. "Hasan Called War on Terror 'War Against Islam,' Classmate Says," by Justin Blum for Bloomberg, November 6:
Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people and wounding 30 others at the Fort Hood Army Base in Texas, regularly described the war on terror as "a war against Islam," according to a doctor who was in a graduate program with him.While studying for a masters degree in public health in 2007, Hasan used a presentation for an environmental health class to argue that Muslims were being targeted by the U.S. anti-terror campaign, said Val Finnell, a classmate.
"He was very vocal about the war, very upfront about being a Muslim first and an American second," said Finnell, 41, a preventive medicine doctor in Los Angeles, in an interview today. "He was always concerned that Muslims in the military were being persecuted."...
Picture this: a traumatized young American survivor of roadside bombs and such being tenderly counseled (courtesy of the U.S. army) by THIS treasonous, lying, murderous snake.
"...Muslim first and an American second"
eh, wot?
He was a muhammadan. Oh, yes.
But no, he wasn't an American. He was an Arabian.
Hasan used a presentation for an environmental health class to argue that Muslims were being targeted by the U.S. anti-terror campaign
And no one noticed?
More islam-friendly reporting from Faux News. Currently wheeling out an ex-imam who let us know how friendly, mild-mannered and co-operative Hasan was.
[Bangs_head_on_wall]
Pop Quiz:
1) Who said, "I have been made victorious through terror"?
They just never learn,media,military,politicians still asking the same questions; what was Major Nidal Malik Hasan's motive for this mass terrorist killing? The speculations are all but the obvious to those who understand the tenants of Islam and the jihad imperatives against the infidels.
Media talking heads are even suggesting he was an harassed Muslim, they are suggesting he may have had "post dramatic stress syndrome'-- gee this mass murderer who yells out Allah Akbar is himself a victim! amazing,absolutely and cluelessly amazing!!- yes all but the obvious which apparently remains off limits among the political correct and the multiculturalism loons who are running our country.
Where are those who see a spade and call it a spade? where are those who really want the right answers and not the politically correct answers as to why this happened and will surely happen again?
I was out with the lads yesterday when this story broke on one of the few tv’s in the bar tuned to a news station. I automatically assumed it was islamically inspired, so soon after the islamists shooting at the recruiting station back in June in Little Rock.
From the story, “While studying for a masters degree in public health in 2007, Hasan used a presentation for an environmental health class to argue that Muslims were being targeted by the U.S. anti-terror campaign, said Val Finnell, a classmate.
“He was very vocal about the war, very upfront about being a Muslim first and an American second,” said Finnell, 41, a preventive medicine doctor in Los Angeles, in an interview today. “He was always concerned that Muslims in the military were being persecuted.”
It is obvious that islam acted as the conduit for this maniac’s insanity to fester. He placed religion before duty in a calling that does not allow for such to occur. Why was it that him being a muslim, he was allowed to express and profess such beliefs without the appropriate alarm bell being sounded? I believe the public still doesn’t understand the evil so easily promoted by the hate preached in islam, and it certainly doesn’t help when the Prez tries to white wash it from the start, or CAIR misleading the public, or MSMs pussy-footing around saying “muslim.”
Will we see a massive demonstration renouncing violence and professing allegiance to the USA first before following the word of Moe by US Muslim residents any time soon in the future? Not freakin’ likely.
Yes lots of signs, with their faces showing, in their own neighborhoods, with cameras and everything..
"We're Americans first and Muslims second!!"
Keep your heads down, peeps.
Heard with my own ears this morning on 'Fox' News:
Interviewer: Did the Fort Hood shooter's Muslim religion have anything to do with his murderous spree?
Psychologist: Absolutely not.
Interviewer: But, he was shouting 'ALLAH' as he was firing away.
Psychologist: Well, he had to say something!
Adversus solem ne loquitor
"He was very vocal about the war, very upfront about being a Muslim first and an American second."
Hardly to be wondered at. After all, in a speech at Columbia University on Sept. 18, 2008, Organization of the Islamic Conference Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu had this to say:
"The Muslim Ummah, means the 'community of the faithful'. It is a unique bond that has no similar example under any other political or religious system in the world. It is a belonging to ideals which bring Muslims together in an eternal brotherhood lock which transcends all other consideration of allegiance or loyalties or barriers of nationhood, ethnicity, geography or language."
Papa,
Good find, and excellent quote by the HMFWIC of the OIC.
I'm guessing Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu has never read the Federalist Papers.
Sorry, zombie head bangers: I consider the wise writings of Hamilton, Jay and Madison far superior to the incoherent rants of an insignificant bedouin desert pirate.
I would love for the peanut gallery to prove me wrong.
"Dar El-Eman Islamic Center and the greater Arlington Muslim community joins local and national Muslim and non-Muslim organizations in their strong denouncement of the shooting incident at Fort Hood, TX.
We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible. No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence.
We, Muslim Americans stand with our fellow citizens in offering our sincerest condolences to the families of those killed or injured.
We strongly emphasize that this attack and its perpetrator are in no way representative of Muslims or the great way of life we know of as Islam. The individual(s) who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted not only against the teachings of Islam, but against what this country stands for.
Dar El-Eman Islamic Center and the greater Arlington Muslim community stands with their neighbors in offering our thoughts and condolences for the victims, their families, and any assistance where needed.
We call on all Texans, and all Americans in general to come together at this time and emphasize our common values, respect for the law, and working towards all that is good.
Dar El-Eman Islamic Center
Arlington, TX "
Peace
Abdullah
Complete and utter bullshit!
Pop Quiz:
1) Who said, "I have been made victorious through terror"? - Yankel
Whoa, that's a toughy, Yankel.
Hmmmm....Let me guess, - Muhammed?
"No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence."
Oh really? Have they read the Islamic blogs today?
Perhaps AM could pop in on those and straighten a few things out.
You just have to wonder at those who swim in that big sea of cognitive dissonance....knowing it's not true and saying it anyway.
Logic is so missing from Muslim heads.
It's too easy to refute the stupid taquiyya letter. Anyone want to try for the sake of the lurkers and newbies? Or can we just let common sense reign on this one?
It's called the overseas contingency operations.(that might be debatable again)
The probing how and why analysis on Tv keeps harping on 'do soldiers get enough councelling to prevent these kinds tragedies' huh.. 'we're not ruling out terrorism' huh
Hasan killed for Allah. He wasn't radicalized, he was 'very' devout. Read the stinkn'Koran he was handing out.
But nah, the the army will probably set up a Saudi style rehabilitation program - rehabilitate terrorists through psychological and religious counselling and art therapy.
He who has the most psychobabble does not win the holy war.
Another delusional Muslim who wreaks havoc in the name of his faith. There is no war on Islam by America and the West. In fact, quite the opposite is the case. Those Muslims who are in the West enjoy the greatest freedoms Muslims do anywhere. They build their houses of worship and preach their faith here in the West but deny non-Muslims the right to do so in Muslim lands (part of the reciprocity Pope Benedict XVI spoke of a couple of years ago).
Moreover, but for America, Saddam Hussein would still be slaughtering, torturing and terrorizing Iraqis, and women in Afghanistan would still be in potato sacks, denied any schooling and treated like chattel (yes, it's not great there now by any means but to the extent that things are better it is due to Western intervention).
To the extent that Muslims have freedom in Muslim lands it's PRECISELY because either they have been liberated by America and other Westerners or have copied Western institutions (e.g., Mustafa Kemal's reforms in Turkey, which are now in peril PRECISELY because Islamic norms are making a comeback).
This war on Islam garbage is just more ungrateful, stupid, paranoid Muslimthink. Though, if truth be told, a war on Islam, at least in the sense of calling it out for the evil that it is, should occur. Then I wouldn't mind Muslims claiming that there really is a war on Islam. Finally, they would be correct about something and the West will have taken the most important single step it can to preserve itself from Islamic totalitarianism.
Oh yeah, one last thing. AM, you're so full of shit.
... there is no war on terror, and there is no war on Islam. There is just the Islamic jihad against the U.S. and the West.
Yeah sure, it's a mouthful, and not a happy dish for our news entertainers to speak, but for our own sake we must use the war's proper name, and that is the Defensive War in the Global Jihad.
*** Bukhari Vol 4 Bk 52 Nbr 220 ***
And another nit: the Global Jihad is on in other places besides America and the West. Just ask the Hindus in India, or the Buddhists in Malaysia and Thailand, or the Christians in Egypt and the southern Philippines.
They can tell you about how the Global Jihad's been going since the right honorable Osama bin Laden called it in his '96 fatwa. Swimmingly.
How DARE this Abdullah Mikail come here and post his faux sorrow?!
"No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence."
Too bad your so-called holy book says otherwise.
"We strongly emphasize that this attack and its perpetrator are in no way representative of Muslims or the great way of life we know of as Islam."
Another misunderstander of Islam, eh?
"The individual(s) who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted not only against the teachings of Islam, but against what this country stands for."
What a flat-out lie. The individual who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted in ACCORDANCE with the teachings of Islam. The second half of your sentence at least is correct.
AM, may be able to fool the ignorant masses who do not know what your ideology teaches. But let me tell you, you have come to the wrong place here. Take your lies elsewhere because we see right through them.
"We call on all Texans, and all Americans in general to come together at this time and emphasize our common values, respect for the law, and working towards all that is good."
Islam has no "common values" with civilized persons. Islam teaches oppression and violence toward unbelievers. No amount of your whitewashing and pretty sounding words changes that reality.
Instead of wasting your time spreading lies here among people who know better, why don't you go tell your co-religionists how Islam doesn't justify violence and all the other lies you've spouted off here? Apparently, they don't seem to share that view. Maybe they need you to enlighten them.
While I agree that Islamic ideology played the primary role. What else should one expect from a religion where its spiritual core-Mohammed- went around killing, enslaving, raping, pillaging, and waging war to name a few issues? However, what if the problem with Muslims goes much deeper than ideology?
For most sane people, any in depth analysis of Islam reveals a ugly totalitarian component to Islam. Very much like Marxism(or is it visa versa?) the dialectic is to place the Muslim as victim in perpetual conflict with the 'other'. I think that it is part of the attraction to Islam. In a way it relates to why so many of the mentally ill or social outcasts seem to have an attraction for Islam. Prisoners, Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson, the dispossessed, et al. seem to find Islam attractive because it reinforces their world view that they are victims struggling against the impure, the corrupt, e.g. the 'other' while it portrays themselves as the righteous seeking justice. Additionally, it's a non-thinking creed assures certainty removing the need for the practitioner to critically think.
I also think that Islam and its relationship to violence may go even deeper than ideology or the ability of Islam to satisfy the psychological needs of social misfits. While he isn't the first to raise this issue, Steve Sailer brings up the issue of consanguinity or inbreeding via cousin marriages here: http://www.isteve.com/cousin_marriage_conundrum.htm
While it may be ironic that Major Hasan's profession was as a psychiatrist, what if he was suffering from a inherited genetic/mental defect? No, I'm not a lawyer testing a possible defense strategy, but it is plausible that as a result of the strict tribalism predominant in the Middle East and Muslim countries which emphasizes tribally cohesive practices like cousin marriages that Muslims tend to be more prone to genetic and mental defects-50% cousin marriage rates in places like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Pakistan. In this case mental illness among Muslims is more likely than Americans or Europeans.
Look at the cosanguinity rates across the world and look at where they're most severe:
http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
Combine this tendency towards genetic & mental defects with an ideology that promotes disdain, if not hatred of the 'other', high illiteracy rates common to most Muslim countries, and perhaps the concept of Muslims going 'postal' isn't implausible, rather it's amazing that more Muslims don't have break downs and attempt to slaughter more people.
"The individual(s) who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted not only against the teachings of Islam, but against what this country stands for."
Individual(s)? Is there some inside information you'd like to share with the group Abby?
I agree that the attack is indeed against what this country, America, stands for, but against Islam? Not so much.
What's your take on his alleged statements that maybe the Muslims should rise up against the "aggressors"? Defensive Jihad, right Abby?
Do you believe that Muslims in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, for example's sake, are justified and should take this warranted stance?
Again boy, what is your position on the current US military operations in the ME at the behest of the governing administration of the country you profess to love so much? Should this US military psychiatrist have honored his obligation to his voluntary service, and accept being deployed to assist in the care of his supposed fellow American servicemen and servicewomen abroad?
Just wondering, although I am quite sure that you won't answer.
JamestheFin,
Cool, I haven't read a cosanguinity argument since jdamn moved on. It needs to be said because it's true and part of the many faults of Islam. If we keep peeling back the layers, as your comment does, we may be able to expose the rotten core of Islam for all to see.
Yes, Abby is just doing his CYA routine. It is about as generic as a greeting card from a local bank. I wonder if Major Hasan attended that "center"?
awake,
Again you should stop being so cock sure of yourself when you are so frequently wrong.
He should have done his duty and abided by his service contract that he signed. Instead he's most likely going to ride the lightning in shame after having sent people on to the place he should have gone to...he may have forfeited his place in Heaven because of what he did. None knows but God.
Remember our discussion about rights that non Muslims have over Muslims? He violated the ultimate right that his victims had to life and the right to choose their path for themselves. He has taken the path of Cain and killed people with no justification.
It's useless telling you what he should have done according to Sharia because you are so far from understanding the truth when it is communicated to you it sounds alien.
Peace
Abdullah
@JamestheFin
Interesting facts and info. My thoughts regarding your final statement about why are not more Muslims involved in such horror. The vast majority are not that devout. They are going through the motions just to get by and be left alone. I am referring to Islam dominated countries.
Those in this country, USA, are more secular with a percentage that will change the moderate appearance when it is to their advantage. What percentages are these is any ones guess. Maybe looking at Britain or Europe would give a clue to the number how would become more devout. However you want to look at it we have a problem I will call a cancer and it is growing.
Challenge any that patriot Obama or CAIR about calling a spade a spade.
AM
As I stated on another thread you are a lair. Nothing you say or try to prove can be taken seriously BECAUSE YOU ARE A LAIR. Just like a good Muslims.
Verses from the Bible. Go ahead, look it up :)
Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "
Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "
Verses from the Bible. Go ahead, look it up :)
Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "
Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "
To whoever the person is posting bible verses. (I'm not seeing a name.)
Guess what? No one is talking about the Bible here, because Christianity is not the issue here. Islam is.
AM -
Refute what has been said here about the teachings of Islam. I dare you.
Oh, wait. You can't.
Well, suggest that to B. Hussein Obama to help him add to his directive to our men in the field to read the Miranda rights to Jihadist captives in Iraq and Afghanistan. After they get a good US defense attorney, they can be counseled about their mental illness - maybe Obama-care will pay for it - with a good Muslim Army psychiatrist.
That reminds me: Why did the Army allow this b--tard to remain in the military so long - and be recently promoted, no less? There are so many fingers that can be pointed on that one - my head is spinning.
"...you are so far from understanding the truth when it is communicated to you it sounds alien."
Lies posing as "truth" generally ARE foreign, asswipe.
Your softer-side of Islam bullhokey exists only in your fAnTAsTic imagination, AM.
After reading all these comments, I am annoyed at the comment by the Islamic writers. I was myself locked down on this installation while this "person" was on the rampage. I do not consider him anything but a piece of fecal matter. I don't care what his superiors thought of him, what conferences he attended, who he did or didn't associate with. He in cold blood killed or wounded REAL AMERICAN HERO's. The young men and women who keep your asses safe. You can pretend it was a random act of violence and you can say it wasn't a religious thing. He was SCREAMING religious idioloy while shooting. I can not nor will I ever be a position to forgive this person nor the religion that spawned him. The local religious leaders are afraid of backlash and they should very well be. His religion is NOT one of peace and joy but one of killing anyone who doesn't agree. Prayers for the families of the dead and wounded are needed.
AbdullahMikail said: "He should have done his duty and abided by his service contract that he signed. Instead he's most likely going to ride the lightning in shame after having sent people on to the place he should have gone to...he may have forfeited his place in Heaven because of what he did. None knows but God.
"Remember our discussion about rights that non Muslims have over Muslims? He violated the ultimate right that his victims had to life and the right to choose their path for themselves. He has taken the path of Cain and killed people with no justification."
_______________________________________
Respectfully I ask you to consider the following:
Assume that you are on a killing field such as Major Hasan was yesterday.
Assume that you have only two targets.
Assume that one of the targets is a non-Muslim and the other a Muslim.
Assume that you then kill both of them knowing that one is a Muslim
and the other a non-Muslim, but that you know nothing else of either one.
Answer me this question, please:
Is the "violation" of the killing of each absolutely equal in your mind?
If your answer is "No." then please tell me why.
Abdullah wrote:
Abby:
"Again you should stop being so cock sure of yourself when you are so frequently wrong."
Prove a single thing I have said that is wrong. As Allah says, "If you be truthful, bring your proof."
Abby:
"Instead he's most likely going to ride the lightning in shame after having sent people on to the place he should have gone to,"
But Abby, did he send them to the forge of Hell because they died as non-believing Kuffar? Don't all disbelievers go to eternal Islamic torment by the hands of Allah who die in disbelief? Your kitman is showing here.
Abby:
"...he may have forfeited his place in Heaven because of what he did."
May have? Doesn't 5:32 ensure this? That is of course, if you also ignore 5:33, acknowleding that these now dead kuffar don't count? What is the divine status of these now dead disbelieving souls, subject to Allah's wrath of disbelief, in your estimation? Are they immediately accepted into Allah's good grace?
Abby:
"He has taken the path of Cain and killed people with no justification."
So therefore, by your logic, he is eternally damned and considered a disbeliever, an apostate, one who Allah has declared takfir upon....right Abby? Where is the maybe? Your use of Cain in this regard is misplaced and certainly disingenuine, but then again, you have been proven a historical, consummate liar here at JW.
Abby:
"It's useless telling you what he should have done according to Sharia because you are so far from understanding the truth when it is communicated to you it sounds alien."
And sometimes, as is evident here, you cannot avoid, albeit unwittingly, espousing the truth about what you believe as a Muslim.
Acording to Sharia? Acording to the Qur'an? According to Islam?
Hasan did his Muslim duty, in your estimation.
Admit it, or at least declare the current US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan as noble causes. Say that the current theater in Iraq and Ahghanistan is warranted, righteous and in the spirit of Islam and your god.
You can't. We all know it. Your taqqiya fools no one here.
Nice try, bitch.
You will not get a real answer from him. The questions will either be evaded or ignored outright.
"Oh yeah, one last thing. AM, you're so full of shit." - Wellington
Yes, it's a sad sight to see someone so completely brainwashed by an evil belief system.
You're a fool, whatever your name is, to quote verses from the Bible, the implication being that the Koran is possessed of no more troubling speech than is Holy Scriptures (and I write this as someone who is not religious at all).
Here's why you're doubly wrong: 1) the Bible is not a paradigm of action for all time while the Koran is; 2) any violence condoned in the Bible was for one small place (the Promised Land) and for a long time ago. No Jew or Christian today invokes the Bible to kill non-believers (though, yes, some Jews and Christians still invoke Biblical authority for the Jews occupying the Promised Land-----but big deal). How many Christians and Jews in the world today kill by citing passages from the Bible? Contrast this with Islmaic terroists all over the place citing the Koran to kill those who are not Muslim at all or deemed not Muslim enough. Your superficiality is glaring and your foolishness is obnoxious.
QUESTION_EVERYTHING posted:
"Hasan used a presentation for an environmental health class to argue that Muslims were being targeted by the U.S. anti-terror campaign"
Can one imagine the type of "Da'awa Artist" Hasan was to try that TWIST.
"You're a fool, whatever your name is" ...Fool is a suitable name ..and spot on, btw.
Well then just hang the bastard and be done with it!
Or, since he's on machines in some hospital, unplug him and cart him out with the trash.
"regularly described the war on terror as "a war against Islam,"
"Hasan used a presentation for an environmental health class to argue that Muslims were being targeted by the U.S. anti-terror campaign,"
Islam declared war on us a mighty long time ago. Islam has been at war with the rest of the world since the seventh century.
It would be more accurate to describe Islam as an ideology, not a religion. It is interesting that this Muslim knew and recognized that the "war on terror" is a defensive war on the ideology of Islam.
It is a shame that our leaders are more concerned with the "politically correct" responses, rather than learn the truth about Islam and start protecting us from this ideology of dominion and hate.
How much longer before more Muslims, particularly those who are "devout" choose to "Kill the kuffar where you find him."
In Civilization And Its Enemies, by Lee Harris, one thing that has always stuck with me is that if someone names himself your enemy, then he is your enemy. To survive one needs to recognize this fact or die.
Was is Sun Tzu who said "Know your enemy."? No matter, it is important to know our self declared enemy and fight accordingly.
So many RED FLAGS,but with political correctness being colour blind,these were missed.
People - the following is from the PC Editorial today on Ft Hood in the Forth Worth Star-Telegram:
"Some news outlets seem obsessed with Hasan’s religion. Some online commentators have seized the opportunity to spew hateful denunciations based on ignorant stereotypes."
Is it incredible? Adults wrote the above. So-called adults, as their brains shrink to the size of a pea when Islam is the subject matter.
Oh, and the Editorial writers are making all sorts of excuses for Hasan - "Ohhhhhhhhh, poor guy, he didn't want to go to Iraq. Ohhhhhhhhhh, he had stress. Ohhhhhhhh we must have compassion and understanding for the poor mass-murdering Mohammedan." Disgusting.
If a Christian fellow had done this, the PC morons at the S-T would show no compassion and make no excuses.
It's mind-boggling that Muslims massacred 3,000 Americans on 9/11 and we submitted to them. I never thought about Muslims before 9/11.
Anyway, watch out for those "hateful denunciations and ignorant stereotypes!" We wouldn't want to offend the Mohammedans, or hurt their widdle mass-murdering feelings.
AM, with his BS taqiya is active again. Is it because muslim ass is on fire because of yet another jihad activity? All the so-called statements from green slime organizations amount to nothing. It is plain taqiya. muslims have no loyalty except to their own. Country means nothing to them.
In my country, muslims always claim to be muslim first and then (may be Indian). They got their porkistan in 1947, but many stayed back due to stupidity of Gandhi and Nehru. We Hindus, and most on this forum, would be happy if we never saw another muslim green slime again.
"green slime organizations" - Indian Tiger
LOL! A perfect description.
Just watched some radical American born Muslims on CNN who were praising Hasan and Bin laden.They were quoting the qu'ran.This was on Anderson Cooper 360,and these guys were
trying to recruit people from a nearby mosque,in the presence of police officers.
Despite muslim taqiya, consider this: in my country, Jews (driven out during inquisition), Zorastrians (driven out by barbarian muslims in Iran), and Tibetan Buddhists (driven out Chinese) have co-existed with Hindus without any problems. It is only with muslims that conflicts have occurred. A similar situation exists in Britain and USA in that it is only muslims that cause problems. Now decide whether islam is a cult of peace.
Well then just hang the bastard and be done with it!
Or, since he's on machines in some hospital, unplug him and cart him out with the trash. "
Joeblough l would do one step, unplug and plug in, and then unplug, let the bastard die a few times a day,
So, let me see - they declare a war on us just because we are non-muslims and don't want to accept regurgitated barf from Muslims (Koran and sharia laws) and they whine and wail that we have a war against islam.
hhmmm, interesting.
All they have to do is stop killing, raping, lying to, enslaving, etc non-muslims and start treating people with respect even if they don't want their garbage religion then there would be no problme.
But they do not because the salvation of their pathetic behinds depends on wrapping the aura of holiness around despicable deeds and killing others. Enslaving them, raping them, killing them, lying to them, etc are just side benefits.
This is totally incompatible with what we stand for and when are our politicians going to wake up and stop all muslim immigration and all jizya payments to them (called foreign aid)? I don't care if they do want economic benefits here - they created the mess in their countries let them wallow in it.
Poetcomic - you wrote - "Picture this: a traumatized young American survivor of roadside bombs and such being tenderly counseled (courtesy of the U.S. army) by THIS treasonous, lying, murderous snake."
That's not the worst of it, you know.
Imagine that treasonous, lying, murderous snake *prescribing psycho-active medications* for those traumatised young American soldiers. ::shudders::
'Learning' - hi, mate! (I'm Australian and have been a regular reader and poster here for two years).
I will pray, as requested, for the families, friends and colleagues of all the non-Muslims who were killed or wounded, and for the swift recovery of those who were injured (even the killer...so he can face trial ASAP, which will be extra humiliating for him, since really pious Muslims are taught that the laws of the dirty kafir do not apply to them...).
Is this your first visit/ signup to this website?
If so, welcome!
Thank you so much for your first-hand testimony. Please encourage other Fort Hood residents to visit. This is *the* place to get educated, fast, about Islam.
On the homepage, on the left-hand sidebar, you should see a link titled 'Islam 101'. Click and read. It contains the basics.
Once you've read that, here are some other handy books, for later on when you have time (this is assuming that you are new here and are not yet familiar with Mr Spencer's body of work).
Mr Spencer's 'Islam Unveiled', 'Truth About Muhammad', "Onward Muslim Soldiers' and 'Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades' are based on rock-solid scholarship yet very easy to read (i.e. written in a plain, non-technical style). His book 'The Infidel's Guide to the Koran' is also good. Then there's Serge Trifkovic's "The Sword of the Prophet", and Mark Gabriel's "Islam and Terrorism" ('Mark Gabriel' is an apostate from Islam).
Officers and the more academically-inclined will find Canon Patrick Sookhdeo's 'Global Jihad' and 'Faith, Power and Territory' solid and useful. Canon Patrick Sookhdeo is an apostate from Islam and he tells it like it is.
Two other helpful apostates - defectors from the Ummah, or Muslim Mob - are Nonie Darwish and Wafa Sultan. Nonie's "Cruel and Usual Punishment" is a plain, no-nonsense exposition of just how nasty Islamic sharia is. Wafa Sultan is the author of 'A God Who Hates'. Both would be good reading young female recruits and for army mothers, wives, daughters and sisters, since they include a lot of eye-opening - and horrifying - facts about what classical mainline Islam does to women.
Two other books I commend to all non-Muslim soldiers who have served or are serving or will be serving anywhere in Islamised lands, are by Sir Winston Churchill: 'The Story of the Malakand Field Force' [which may be read for free online] describing the British Raj in combat with murderous treacherous Muslim raiders in Swat and parts northwest, in the 19th century; and "The River Wars", which is his account of the 19th century campaign in Sudan that was fictionalised in the classic film 'Khartoum' - the British Empire vs. the jihad gang boss/ slavemaster/ local despot, the Mahdi.
Churchill *knew* first-hand what it was like to go up against jihadists. Judging from the stories that filter out from Afghanistan and Iraq, *nothing* has changed. The original magnificently un-PC 1899 edition of 'The River Wars', which is almost unobtainable, was savagely cut and bowdlerised in all subsequent versions; but the St Augustine's Press at the University of Chicago has just brought out a new edition of the uncut original. NOT cheap; but if a dozen or so guys chipped in together and bought a copy to pass around, I assure you, you would find it most informative.
Just to give a sample of Churchill's un-PC view of Islam, here is what he said of Islamic Iraq in 1922, where the British were engaged in an utterly futile effort to create a stable government - he called it "an ungrateful volcano".
Just once Abdullah I would like to see a muslim apologize without mentioning how Islam had nothing to do with it.
Seriously, why do they dig you guys up and put you on TV?
You say the same bullcrap every time.
The "American Muslim community". The worst oxymoron of the decade?
http://go.to/islamhistory
AbdullahMikail quote
"Again you should stop being so cock sure of yourself when you are so frequently wrong."
Now why didn't someone say that to muhammned?
BTW are you talking to yourself? because judging from your posts that is an accurate description of you AbdullahMikail.
If you are so concerned with spreading Islam through "Peace"
you have a funny way of going about it.
You can't even answer a simple question
Why should I believe Mohammed?
AbdullahMikail quote
"Again you should stop being so cock sure of yourself when you are so frequently wrong."
Now why didn't someone say that to muhammned?
BTW are you talking to yourself? because judging from your posts that is an accurate description of you AbdullahMikail.
If you are so concerned with spreading Islam through "Peace"
you have a funny way of going about it.
You can't even answer a simple question
Why should I believe Mohammed?
Abdullah Mikail sez:
" He has taken the path of Cain and killed people with no justification."
well, not exactly.....He has taken the Path of Allah and killed people with complete justification....
"His religion is NOT one of peace and joy but one of killing anyone who doesn't agree. Prayers for the families of the dead and wounded are needed."
Learning;
Your post and quote above are right on target. As I have not seen you here before, I wish to welcome you, and will second you for the prayers to all victims and familys of this attack.
Your post is clear and to the point, I welcome your words and emotion, it is as clear as it can be, following the grip of another attack from another follower of islam.
awake,
Your comments and opinions on Islam are meaningless, seeing as the opinions come from you, a person who, by their own admission, is not even equipped to begin discussing, or even understanding, a basic principal of Islamic law.
These are often laid out in the Quran plainly, explained further in multiple hadiths, and even have entire chapters dedicated to them in many modern exegesis of Islamic Law…and yet still you are incapable of reading them and understanding them. Remember the discussion threads on darura?
Face it, you do not know what you are talking about. You are an angry bigot with nothing truthful to state about Islam.
It is pointless to lead you by the nose to each and every proof of what I say…I write only the truth and, unfortunately, you are simply not educated enough in the subject matter to deal with the realities of it, and, child like, when something does not agree with your preconceived notions you think it is a “lie.”
Ignorance, that is your problem…and furthermore, insistent ignorance, as you have no desire to rid yourself of it
Peace
Abdullah
proxywar,
Apologize? For what?
This is the critical failure in your thought processes...a person who is guilty of nothing has no need to apologize and feels no guilt.
That someone goes around demanding apology from people not responsible for this action is just a projection of your bias. I feel no need to apologize for the actions of a lunatic.
Had this person abided by the dictates of Islam he would never have attacked unarmed soldiers and innocent civilians, period. He would have kept his given word, his sworn contract with his signature on it if he were to have kept to his religion, Islam.
There is an exolicit hadith that details the burden of a Muslim soldier in keeping their word even to a sworn armed and active enemy... what do you think is the gravity of keeping ones word, as a Muslim, to ones he swore to protect.
The lunatic ravings of some people justifying this act is just that, lunatic raving.
That being said, I am very sad that people trusted him and then he betrayed their trust and he did not do his duty as a Muslim and honor the rights they had on him.
Peace
Abdulla