Of course. Why not? He was a "moderate." Until he wasn't.
"Nidal Hasan: Ft. Hood Shooter Participated in Homeland Security Disaster Preparation," from Gawker, November 6 (thanks to Mary Belle):
The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute's presidential transition task force last year.The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.
According to the task force's May 2009 report [pdf], a "Nidal Hasan" from the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine was a task force event participant. Other participants included Senate and House staffers, Department of Homeland Security officials, Defense Department officials, and reporters for Politico, the Washington Post, and the London Times....
I think they should have listened to what he had to say.
This "pious muslim" killed the preferred way as taught by the KKKoran aka Muhammud, by ambush! this pious muslim showed his bravery by killing for the most part unarmed men. yeah these brave islamists know their koran real well.
This just gets worse by the hour.....
The one glint of a silver lining is that people will start to see islam for what it is.
A murderous, mind control cult.
He was a "moderate." Until he wasn't.
Back in the early 90s there was a totally rocking punk band in NYC called No Means No. There should be a new one called Moderate Not Wasn't.
*** Tabari 8:141 ***
Last night on Larry King, when the discussion started to drift to Islam Larry popped in with, "Of course we wouldn't want to be irresponsible and lay this at the feet of the religion Islam." His three news entertainer guests shook their heads in agreement so hard and so long I started to fear for their necks.
*** Ishaq 369 ***
We should all fear for necks. The Global Jihad is on, the Koran is word, the troops are armed, and the machineries of the Fictive Reality around Islam is being strained to the limit.
*** Vol 7 Bk 67 Nbr 427 - 9:3 - 66:2 - Vol 4 Bk 52 Nbr 268 - 4:142 ***
Really now.
Nidal Hasan: Ft. Hood Shooter Participated in Homeland Security Disaster Preparation
...........................
I am shocked, but probably shouldn't be. Here is Dr. Hasan's bland page from the Virginia Board of Medicine, where it lists his practice as "Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry".
http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_edu.asp?License_No=0101238630
I just wonder how many other Islamic ticking time bombs there are out there.
FOX News finally called the killings at Ft. Hood what they are—*a massacre*.
It's not naivete, it's ignorancs.
Poor baby muslims! Mean old infidels said mean things to them, made them mad! No wonder they kill infidels, sometimes! Who can blame them?
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9013819
God (not allah) help us, if the American public are stupid enough to buy this crap.
(May the Lord put His hand on the shoulder of each of the wounded and the survivors, and give them comfort.)
RSI
Homeland Security Panel advising Obama
He probably had a hand in the DHS report last April that warned "right-wing extremists" might be returning war veterans, violent Christian Identity organizations, or militia movement members. Primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups)
"The consequences of a prolonged economic downturn – including real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit – could create a fertile recruiting environment for potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803
'Last night on Larry King, when the discussion started to drift to Islam Larry popped in with, "Of course we wouldn't want to be irresponsible and lay this at the feet of the religion Islam."'
Oh let's, shall we?
BlackFive : Apparently, reports are that he was harassed for being muslim. I have sources that have stated that the Army investigated Hasan's claims that he was being targeted for his religion and found that either his reports were inaccurate or that he was faking the harassment.
BlackFive - Ft. Hood Shooting - How to Help
I always look to this site for inside information. They are a bunch of very well connected Vets and Servicemen who really know what's up.
No, Hasan wasn't bullied or harassed. He was merely looking for an 'out' on his obligation.
So that none of the yahoos here can claim we American Muslims did not publicly condemn this act:
***************
North Texas Islamic Council
For Immediate Release: Dated: 11/05/2009
"The North Texas Muslim community is shocked at the killing that took place at Fort Hood, Texas today. The North Texas Muslim community strongly condemns the killings at Fort Hood and offers our deepest condolences to the affected families."
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ICGA (Islamic Center Great Austin) joins local and national Muslim organizations in their strong denouncement of the shooting incident at Fort Hood, TX. We fully endorse the statements from CAIR and ISNA.
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“We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible and ask that the perpetrators be punished to the full extent of the law. No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured.” -- CAIR
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“The soldier who led this attack was either mentally unstable, or was motivated by a perverted ideology for which there can be no justification. ISNA is proud of the many Muslim men and women who serve loyally in the United States military. We are grateful for the sacrifices made by all US soldiers, who represent the religious, racial and ethnic diversity of America, to defend the Constitution and our national security.” -- ISNA
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Our immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen, and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood.
We strongly emphasize that this attack and its perpetrator are in no way representative of Muslims or the peace-loving religion of Islam. The individual(s) who perpetrated this attack blatantly acted against the teachings of Islam. The Islamic Center of Greater Austin stand with their neighbors and join scores of other local and national Muslim organizations in offering prayers for the victims, condolences to their families, and assistance where needed.
Central Texas Muslims include many veterans and active-duty personnel in the US Armed Forces, and countless Muslims have served in the US military with distinction and honor. We call on all Texans to come together at this time and emphasize our common values, respect for the law, and duty to our country.
The Islamic Center of Greater Austin
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5 November 2009
Lt. General Robert W. Cone
Commandant, Ft. Hood Military Base
Ft. Hood, Texas
by email: fhrelocation@ hood.army. mil
Dear General Hood:
I am writing on behalf of the Muslim American Society (MAS), and our thousands of members throughout the United States, to express both our shock and our deep sadness in the aftermath of the shooting at Fort Hood that killed eleven individuals and left many more wounded. This unprovoked and unconscionable act of violence against American military personnel and civilians alike is utterly reprehensible, and against every tenet of faith and morality..
We offer our prayers and condolences to you, to the Fort Hood community, and especially to the families of loved ones of those who were killed and injured in this attack. May God Almighty comfort all of you in this time of great loss and sorrow.
Sincerely yours,
Imam Mahdi Bray
Executive Director
MAS Freedom (Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation)
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Peace
Abdullah
Does that mean he was a czar?
Maybe they gave him diplomatic immunity as some sort of minor governmental potentate. That way he could leave the country and avoid arrest.
I listened to Mr. Spencer's interview this morning on Talk
640AM's John Oakley show in Toronto and he pulled no punches.This man has seen the "500 pound gorilla" in the room and is saying so,while others try to split hairs for
political correctness and not offend the offenders.
Yes, AM, they needed to do something to avert the *dreadful* backlash of islamophobia.
/sarc
Hollow words from the enemy of this and any other Democratic nation.
Peace? Shove it, liar.
Here is the MO in my guess: become a psychiatrist to be able to elicit the most intel possible.
This guy was in a position to have soldiers spill their guts to him about having had to put down jihadists. It must have been torture to have to hear about a non-Muslim killing, or been on the military side of having to kill, Muslims. As most Muslims will say in honest moments, their first loyalty is to the Ummah. They are Muslims before they are Americans.
What a conflict! The ignoramii of the media..."why did he do it?" and "he really didn't want to be deployed". Why do you think that is? Do you think he didn't want to be deployed because he had a demonstrated aversion to guns and killing? Um, I think we have the answer to that one. No, it was because he would be perceived by the Ummah as deployed in a cause against Allah, against the Ummah. This was unacceptable to him, because his loyalty is not, and never was, to America. And I mean Never.
The media covers it as if he was afraid to go to war. Finish the sentence, morons. He was afraid to go to war against Muslims.
Just like this traitor Tarek Mehanna...do you think he became a pharmacist (grueling work to a Ph.D.) because he wanted to help people???? Please.
AM should start his own blog. Maybe call it BSWatch and he could paste all the crap he posted above. Go ahead AM and then we can come on your site cry about how you only do it for the money. It's fun to watch all the terrorists, er muslims, come to the defense of their faith when it really doesn't have anything to do with islam in the first place; why would AM feel compelled to post his crap on JW if he thinks this has nothing to do with islam. Sort of self-incriminating, no AM? I wonder why the terrorists seem it's so important to come out and deflect, err, defend their faith. Obviously, everyone comes to the same conclusions, especially the peace-loving muslims (puke).
"The one glint of a silver lining is that people will start to see Islam for what it is."
That's what they said after 9-11...and then after Madrid...and then after Bali...and then after Beslan...and then after 7-7...and then after Bali II...and then after Mumbai...etc., etc.
Whatever level of awakening that is occurring among the general populace, it is clear that the official narrative of our academic and political class will NOT change, no matter how frequently and heinously Islamic terrorism manifests itself.
> So that none of the yahoos here can claim we American Muslims did not publicly condemn this act:
Yes, and Captain Renault publicy condemned that gambling was taking place in Ricks Casablanca cafe. I recall that he too was "SHOCKED" about it.
AM...So that none of the yahoos here can claim we American Muslims did not publicly condemn this act:
Yep...multiple layers of taqiyya...If your brothers were not conducting terrorist acts, there would be nothing to condemn...Your always condemning after the fact...Why don't you seek out those radical brothers of yours and explain to THEM where they are going wrong...If you are already doing that, you are a failure...But of course being a failure is nothing new to you...
Abdullah,
This might not be the best time for a muslim condemnation update.
Here is the MO in my guess: become a psychiatrist to be able to elicit the most intel possible.
This guy was in a position to have soldiers spill their guts to him about having had to put down jihadists. It must have been torture to have to hear about a non-Muslim killing, or been on the military side of having to kill, Muslims. As most Muslims will say in honest moments, their first loyalty is to the Ummah. They are Muslims before they are Americans.
What a conflict! The ignoramii of the media..."why did he do it?" and "he really didn't want to be deployed". Why do you think that is? Do you think he didn't want to be deployed because he had a demonstrated aversion to guns and killing? Um, I think we have the answer to that one. No, it was because he would be perceived by the Ummah as deployed in a cause against Allah, against the Ummah. This was unacceptable to him, because his loyalty is not, and never was, to America. And I mean Never.
The media covers it as if he was afraid to go to war. Finish the sentence, morons. He was afraid to go to war against Muslims.
Just like this traitor Tarek Mehanna...do you think he became a pharmacist (grueling work to a Ph.D.) because he wanted to help people???? Please.
Sure, and privately you scream "Allahu Akhbar".
There is not other way to "condemn" this act but to condemn Islam and Muhammad.
This morning I listened to Mr. Spencer's interview with
John Oakley on Talk 640AM in Toronto and he pulled no punches.A friend called and I just ignored the call for fear of missing a word.Mr.Spencer has seen "the 500 pound
gorilla in the room and saying so;unlike those who try to
split hairs for political correctness so as not to offend the offenders.
Empty words of denouncement mean nothing Abdullah. Your refusal to accept these actions as they come, and refusal to acknowledge the correlation between these actions and Islam, speak far louder than any obligatory denouncement.
People will continue to "misunderstand" as Islam will be spread all the same in the mosques and madrassas here and abroad and you will continue to lie about it's occurence.
There was an obvious conflict in this man. He could not be both a good American and a good Muslim in this instance and his allegiance to Allah was too powerful to overcome.
When push comes to shove Abby, would you do it any differently? Assuming that you were a US infantryman and not a psychiatrist (a fact which makes Hasan's excuses even less plausible), would you deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan and potentially kill your Muslim brethren or would you try instead to please your god and take out your supposed US compatriots?
Oh Abdullah Mike, you lying POS. Big deal. The ICGA, CAIR, the ISNA and Mahdi Bray condemned the act? Muslims talk out of both sides of their mouths and lie like prayer rugs. Your taqiyah is showing.
C'mon Abdullah Mike. Tell us what you really think. (Mr. Giddy.)
Interesting video here, found on Vlad Tepes blog:
What probably should concern us all a lot more than the actual event, is that an eye witness to this was afraid of losing her job with the military for actually reporting the truth of what she saw. How please, did we get to the point where telling the truth meant losing your job? How did Islam become so protected, that reporting the words of the killer as he did his best to slaughter all his coworkers is a crime and a firing offense?
At about 1:48 of the video:
http://sheikyermami.com/2009/11/06/sudden-outbreak-of-islamophobia-after-muslim-psycho-killer-mows-down-fellow-soldiers/
Show me how a religion can be one of peace with all the
atrocities being committed almost daily in its name.
Yeah, we're yahoos here AM. I noticed you didn't have anything derogotory to add about your brother terrorist but it's OK to post we're yahoos. Thanks for nothing mooky. You post is meaningless!
awake,
I was disabled in the service of our country.
What, if anything, have you ever done for her?
Peace
Abdullah
The condemnations of Muslim-American organizations displayed above are perfunctory and essentially meaningless. Nowhere is there an attempt to delegitimize the Jihadist ideology that encourages such violence. Nowhere is there acknowledgment that the same mindset that drove Nidal Hasan into his murderous rampage is what drives the violence of Hamas, Hezbollah, Abu Sayaf, Al Qaeda, and the literally dozens of other Muslim terrorist groups operating around the world.
Nice try Abby.
Here is the MO in my guess: become a psychiatrist to be able to elicit the most intel possible.
This guy was in a position to have soldiers spill their guts to him about having had to put down jihadists. It must have been torture to have to hear about a non-Muslim killing, or been on the military side of having to kill, Muslims. As most Muslims will say in honest moments, their first loyalty is to the Ummah. They are Muslims before they are Americans.
What a conflict! The ignoramii of the media..."why did he do it?" and "he really didn't want to be deployed". Why do you think that is? Do you think he didn't want to be deployed because he had a demonstrated aversion to guns and killing? Um, I think we have the answer to that one. No, it was because he would be perceived by the Ummah as deployed in a cause against Allah, against the Ummah. This was unacceptable to him, because his loyalty is not, and never was, to America. And I mean Never.
The media covers it as if he was afraid to go to war. Finish the sentence, morons. He was afraid to go to war against Muslims.
Just like this traitor Tarek Mehanna...do you think he became a pharmacist (grueling work to a Ph.D.) because he wanted to help people???? Please.
Notice to taguiyya artists - you credibility is at an all time low. Not that it was that good to begin with. When lying in the defense of Islam is sanctioned by the Qur'an................well, let's just say that you become predictable.
This is what Muslims really think.
http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/
AM...I was disabled in the service of our country.
Slipped and fell on your head while swabbing a deck most likely...Well that's legitimate...How long were you unconscious? You don't seem to be fully alert and awake yet...
You must have hit hard...I bet that hurt...
From the www.revolutionmuslim.com/ website:
Major Nidal Hasan M.D.
An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a preemptive* attack.
Get Well Soon Major Nidal
We Love You
We do NOT denounce this officer's actions,we do however apologize for the following acts committed by our country:
Bay of Tonkin
The East Timor Massacre by USA Supported Suharto
1902 Samar Massacre in the Philippines by the USMC
1,000,000 Dead Iraqis
Afghani & Pakistanis Killed by the USA
Starvation of Africa & Rape of it's Resources by the USA
Support of the Brutal "Israeli" Occupation Entity
Etc. Etc.
Every day is Fort Hood for the world community due to USA policies and & their tyrant totalitarian puppet regimes. Rest assure the
slain terrorists at Fort Hood are in the eternal hellfire and it is not to late for YOU to change your policies.
Sharing a Smile with The International Community,
Yousef al-Khattab
*as opposed to a USA's"Preventive War"(aka war crimes)
(Thanks to www.actforamerica.org.)
Basically we have two types of Mohammedan trolls here at Jihad Watch. The first kind is best exampled by Abdullah Mikhail who tries to put a happy face on Islam and tell us that Islam really isn't what we all know it to be. The second kind of troll was well represented yesterday by a character who identified himself as "snaitsrhcothtaed1." This type just states flat out what Islam intends and gloats about it. Personally, I prefer the latter type because honesty is very refreshing and clarifying, but one has to admit that the first type does often provide for fine, instructive examples of either fooling oneself or taqqiya.
Here's a comment from the http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/:
"First all I would like to preface my comment by saying that I am a non-violent person who is committed to non-violence and I never encourage others to do violence. That being said I would like to say that I hope this event teaches people in the military and elsewhere not to insult muslims. This man was harrassed for being muslim by people in the military and it is not right that people did that to him. People in the military and elsewhere really need to be more culturally sensitive."
Doesn't sound like a Methodist to me.
"I was disabled in the service of our country."
--abdullah the bullshitter
Translation: abdullah's milking America and getting tax payers to subsidize his dawa and disinformation campaign for CAIR. No wonder he has so much time on his hands to spread bullshit.
Dear General Hood?
That little typo shows the amount of thought that was put into this letter. No one even reviewed it before it was released.
Shoot yourself in the ass like John Kerry? PTSD from having to fight against the Ummah?
Hey. AM.... I will never ever, ever, ever believe a word that a muslim says!!
ESPECIALLY YOU.
You are ALL potentially dangerous to the WHOLE WORLD.
Mo-hamm-ed was a pervert and child molestor.
Leave islam before it is too late.
so there you have it. Here in the UK we are told that "skilled" immigrants are essential - doesn't matter what is their religion.
We are told about the "moderate Muslims" who are "far in the majority".
One might think that intelligent and educated Muslims might , just, have abandoned superstition and 7th Century edicts and actually APPLIED common sense but clearly not.
It is very easy to understand that the perhaps 90% of Muslims, that is the uneducated, illiterate, superstitious, impoverished, may well accept without question that which their Imam tells them. But the remainder? Defies belief. the 90% (pure speculation) are unlikely to prove a threat except to their own compatriots including Muslims. The educated and mobile ones are more of a threat it seems.
So here we have a highly educated pyschiatrist and high ranking member of the military killing in the name of Allah (or so it now seems). In the UK we have had engineers, doctors, teachers doing much the same.
For me I will NEVER again trust a Muslim and would be very happy if they were all deported to their ancestral homes. They are far too unpredicable and dangerous to remain in the West. And hey I am far from "right wing". I just have a totally instinctive desire for self protection
What an unfair world we live in, where this guy can advise Obama, but Ahmedinejad won't hire me.
Doesn't sound like a Buddhist, either.
I think the Slave needs to STFU.
Your stupid "brothers" sent their taqiya letter to General Hood, not Lt General Cone at Fort Hood. Idiots.
You were disabled. Hit your head on something real hard a bunch of times, huh? Shove it, dirtbag.
There's been another shooting in a high rise in Orlando just a few minutes ago. Waiting for more news on the story.
Comic Relief,
Why do you feel I need to overstate the obvious by saying anything at all about Major Nidal Hasan M.D.?
He is a full on flaming nut bag (thought that was obvious) and he'll have his day in court before he gets executed...that's it, in a nut shell...no pun intended.
Oh, and you are a yahoo, because no matter what we say you'll put a spin on it any way, whether we don't speak about something or if we do speak about something...you'll bray the same way you always do regardless.
Peace
Abdullah
Yes, disabled, but not fighting against Muslims, that's for sure. You don't need to answer the question posed because I already know your answer.
As far as service, challenging the lies that spew from your mouth are a noble cause in and of itself.
Why don't you thrill us with stories of your war heroism Abdullah...You must have done something besides cleaning the head...
Report: At Least 2 Dead, 8 Injured in Orlando Shooting
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572605,00.html
It's "War" Abdullah Mike. Not "Peace".
Notice how abdullah the bullshitter ends all his supercilious and insulting posts with the word "PEACE."
Who does that ass-clown think he's kidding?
What a POS!
In response to Wellington's comment ...
AM represents the most EVIL type of Muslim given his unyielding presentation of his softer-side of Islam nonsense. Truth is, there is no softer-side to Islam, so I guess that makes AM an accomplished LIAR. Evil in, evil out. Garbage in, garbage out (the evil and garbage being Islam, et al). That's AM in a nutshell.
jewdog:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/iwndis-jerome-corsi-claim_n_348461.html
"Well, if you were wondering what paranoiac smear artist would be the first to step out and attempt to name President Barack Obama as the man who guided Nidal Malik Hasan to his murderous rampage at Fort Hood yesterday, the answer -- naturally! -- is Jerome Corsi. Corsi has a long history of lunatic, fact-averse ravings and he fails to disappoint on that regard on the pages of World Net Daily, today, in a piece entitled "Shooter advised Obama transition." Except, of course, he didn't do any such thing.
Corsi hangs his entire allegation on a document produced on May 19, 2009 by The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute entitled "Thinking Anew, Security Priorities For The Next Administration." In that document, Nidal Hasan is listed, on page 29, as a "Task Force Event Participant." He was one of hundreds of people listed as a "participant." Significantly, Nidal was not the author of the document. He was not a member of the HSPI's "Presidential Transition Task Force." Nor was he a member of the HSPI's "Task Force Staff." He was not a member of the HSPI's Steering Committee or a briefer to the task force."
Don't be so gullible....
Peace
Abdullah
AbdullahMikail, you wrote here and elsewhere: "So that none of the yahoos here can claim we American Muslims did not publicly condemn this act..." etc.
I posted elsewhere and here:
Yasser Arafat routinely condemned jihad terror against Israel's Jews. Many believed him until Israel's 2002 Operation Defensive Shield in response to the March 27, 2002 Netanya Terror bombing / Passover massacre. The IDF entered Tulkarm Fatah office. Documents seized during Operation Defensive Shield linked Yasser Arafat as well as Saudi Arabia to terrorist activities. Condemning Islamic terrorism is meaningless. There's got to be much more than mere condemnation.
Communicated by Israeli security sources)
April 15, 2002
1. The following document is a letter addressed by the secretary of the Fatah Movement in Nablus to Yasser Arafat, requesting financial support for two terrorists on Israel's list of wanted terorists:
In the name of Allah the merciful and the compassionate
The State of Palestine
The Palestine National Liberation Movement - Fatah
Nablus Region
Date: November 26, 2001
Honored Comrade President and Commander in Chief Abu Amar [alias for Yasser Arafat] - may Allah watch over him,
Blessings for our homeland.
I request that your Excellency instruct that financial assistance be allocated to our fighting brothers:
Iyad Na'if Hassin Hamad
Maher Hussein Fayiz Miladi....etc.
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
awake,
"challenging the lies that spew from your mouth are a noble cause in and of itself."
I don't lie. That's where you fail. I make my challenge and I produce my proofs...take your annoying whining insistance that I list Israeli violations of UN resolutions and Israeli violations of human rights.
I posted it. Did you respond?
I don't know...it took forever waiting around for you, so I lost interest and moved on. Post a link if you did so I can see your stunning reposte.
Peace
Abdullah
Obama said not to jump to conclusions.
Major Hasan probably left a suicide note/video and I'll bet the CIC wants assurance this is a lone-jihadist.
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
Bloody hell.
This is beyond ordinary garden variety foreign agent infiltration.
This is bringing actual enemy combatants into the miliitary and the executive branch.
I keep wishing I could think that it can't go any further or get any worse.
But I fear it will.
It was bad enough under dear old George "Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace" Bush.
But now we have a jihaddi sympathizer in the White House.
Given how much crap we've taken so far, I often wonder what gory excess it will take before this country wakes up.
Like I said, Abby, no need to reply. I and everyone else here know all about you. Your entire presence and persona here is a lie.
Now put your tap-dance shoes on as you are prone to do. It is allmost time to tap away...exit stage left.
Wildjew (still dig that handle)
I am sorry, but Israel has absolutely no credibility, period....not that Yassar Arafat had any either...its just nothing can be trusted that they ever bring to anyone in hand as proof of anything.
"Condemning Islamic terrorism is meaningless. There's got to be much more than mere condemnation."
And as far as that is concerened, this person was a nut bag, thinking that anyone can scry in their crystal ball and head off any nut who is out there is just insane...as is the premise that it be someone else's responsiblity to do this. There are law enforcement agencies all around whose job that is...it is neither our responsiblity nor our fault any more than it is yours that this person snapped after he got his orders to deploy for a fourth tour of duty in Iraq.
Can you magically handle the suicide problem among our troops currently on duty? Its a matter of men loosing their minds, that's it...there is no justification for what Nidal did under any of the Sharia, period.
So it is only bigoted hatred that leads people here to blame the religion for what an insane person did.
Peace
Abdullah
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
Joe,
Don't be so gullible...you are falling into right wing media conspiracy...his name appeared on a report as a participant in some greater event...he showed up for a conference or something.
Man, question what you read at least once before you swallow it, okay?
Peace
Abdullah
Our friend Hasan was an advisor to Homeland Security, that's understandable. Shouting "allahu akbar" when opening the fire revealed him as a devout Buddhist only feeling offended by the hostility towards Buddhists all over the world. Oh, wait a minute, I can be mistaken, Mr. Obama told me not to jump to conclusions. So might the perpetrator have been a Muslim? I'm only asking.
I was disabled in the service of our country.
Boy do you lie!! Now I know you would lie if asked for the time of day, pathetic!! You should have never been allowed in the military, if even that is true.
LAIR LAIR PANTS OF FIRE!!
All Muslims lie and deceive that is what allah tells them to do.
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
Our friend Hasan was an advisor to Homeland Security, that's understandable. Shouting "allahu akbar" when opening the fire revealed him as a devout Buddhist only feeling offended by the hostility towards Buddhists all over the world. Oh, wait a minute, I can be mistaken, Mr. Obama told me not to jump to conclusions. So might the perpetrator have been a Muslim? But Islam is the religion of peace(TM). I'm very confused, can anybody enlighten me?
Abdullah - taquiyya - when every single muslim rejects this instruction from Mohammed, then we might ------ Oh, Buddha! I forgot about that "War is deceit" thing!
Tell you what - take the Qur'an, put it in a nice, safe place and....................... start over. Just reboot. Purge all the evil stuff and re-write the Qur'an. I think I see the angel Gabriel hovering around.
Good luck.
Abdullah, Perhaps I erred just a bit. Actually I believe in condemnation. I probably should have written: "Condemning Islamic terrorism - on the part of questionable persons and organizations - is next to meaningless if it is not followed by action. There's got to be much more than mere condemnation."
You wrote: "And as far as that is concerned, this person was a nut bag...."
I don't believe he is a nut bag. Why do you say he is a nut bag, more than any other true believer? You may think he is misguided, yet we know there are millions who believe as he does. There are millions who interpret the Qur'an and the prophet's example as he does. There are millions who seek to emulate the example of the prophet. Are all these millions insane nut bags? No.
You wrote: "there is no justification for what Nidal did under any of the Sharia, period."
I don't see it that way. Why can't you simply say he is a devout Muslim? It's not a matter of bigoted hatred. It's a matter of the literal interpretation of the text. For example our local radio talk show host (WSKY) this morning - in an effort to defend your argument - pointed out to a caller that Jesus is alleged to have said, "If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out." In other words, were Christians to take this verse literally, millions of Christians would be out there plucking eyes out because who is without sin?
Only devout Muslims do interpret the Qur'an literally. Many do. These are not insane nut cases. These are true believers. Yes or no?
Regularly enjoy reading your comments, undaunted, as in this instance. Succinct, accurate and humorous is the way I would describe most of them, as in this instance. Hope you are well.
Our friend Hasan was an advisor to Homeland Security, that's understandable. Shouting "allahu akbar" when opening the fire revealed him as a devout Buddhist only feeling offended by the hostility towards Buddhists all over the world. Oh, wait a minute, I can be mistaken, Mr. Obama told me not to jump to conclusions. So might the perpetrator have been a Muslim? But Islam is the religion of peace(TM). I'm very confused, can anybody enlighten me?
Dear AbdullahMikael, Thanks for (re)posting your comment here about how various Muslim groups are condemning this latest of the massacres by people calling themselves Muslims.
But what you need to understand is that Islam's holy books endorse deception in the cause of Jihad against unbelievers, so these condemnations in no way prove the peacefulness of Islam.
What is really needed is for Islamic groups and individuals to publicly condemn the more than a hundred verses of the flawless unchangeable word of Allah that is the Quran. Can we ask you here to confirm that you condemn for instance 9:5, 9:29, you condemn Mohammed's ethnic cleansing terrorism as was enthused about in 59:2-8, you condemn the approval of rape stated in 4:24 and 33:50, and so on.
I sincerely invite you to thus condemn those many verses of the Quran, and the recorded conduct of Mohammed associated with them. But in doing so you would of course cease to be a Muslim in any meaningful sense of the word. Well, I invite you to do that too. In Truth, Q.
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
Just like Abdulla to bring his message of peace, love and brotherhood to the wrong group.
Please Abdulla, Minister to those who really misunderstand your Religion. Only then will our misunderstanding be wrong.
Allah is directly responsible for Hasans jihad...If Allah had not willed it, it would have not happened...Allah wills all kinds of deadly, depraved, and ugly stuff...
Abdullah M worships at the alter of the god who manifests ugly...
I'm inclined to agree with you, Im.mad.as.HELL!, as I don't think that AM EVER served in the military, either. My father served in the Air Force, and I never heard him boast or brag about his "service" to our country; nor did I ever hear him attempt to build himself up by putting others DOWN who did NOT serve in the military. So I consider it really odd and suspicious that AM would stoop to the level of bragmeister, especially for something he probably never did in the first place.
And if anyone is a "whiner" it's AM.
Why should I believe Mohammed?
Awake,
So what have you done in the last two hours about this Ft. Hood thing? Anything? My guess is nothing more than piss and moan and use it as a segue to bash Muslims and Islam in general, am I wrong? No need to answer, I know exactly who you are.
We here locally held a community meeting and discussed the issue and gathered donations to at least assist the affected families monetarily in what little way we could.
We were also contacted by a local Catholic organization to let us know that they are with us in feeling this loss for our country and to furthermore reassure us that they are holding a press release to let people know the truth about we Muslims and that this sole person was not representing us or the religion of Islam. That is what we are doing about this tragedy.
Peace
Abdullah
I'm not interested in you but in the founder of your faith.
Why should I believe Mohammed?
"There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger"
Why should I beleive that?
AM : We here locally held a community meeting and discussed the issue...
Circled the wagons and prepared for the 'inevitable backlash' against islam.
[rolls_eyes]
"I don't lie. That's where you fail. I make my challenge and I produce my proofs..."
LMAO!!!!!! rolls on the floor laughing.
"Don't be so gullible...you are falling into right wing media conspiracy..."
What are you talking about? you silly boy.
Mohammed has the media
In public there will be words of condemnation by members of the Muslim community, but in private, lots of high 5's going on. Tayiqqa in action.
A human being above responded to the Muslim robot thusly:
"But what you need to understand is that Islam's holy books endorse deception in the cause of Jihad against unbelievers, so these condemnations in no way prove the peacefulness of Islam.
"What is really needed is for Islamic groups and individuals to..."
No, no, no, no. There is nothing "really needed" for "Islamic groups and individuals" to do. Absolutely nothing. Muslims can offer us nothing we need. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
There is nothing they could do to assuage our concerns for our safety. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Because they are hopelessly mendacious and fanatical. We have to stop expecting Muslims to step up to the plate. We have to stop asking them to do anything.
We have to start waking up and wrapping our heads around the grim reality that they are our eternal enemies. And then we can act accordingly, appropriately, and rationally, in the interest of the safety of ourselves, our loved ones, our neighbors, our fellow citizens.
Abdullah Mikail mentions:
"... this sole person was not representing us or the religion of Islam."
That contradicts what he was saying.....was he lying? or are you lying?...
This continual need to respond to AM as though he were a rational human being, and not the murderous robot he in fact is, indicates a persistence of PC MC sensitivity in the hearts of JW commenters. You must root this sensitivity out and destroy it, if you want to save our Western societies.
Hesperado
one must remember that not all of Abdullah Mikail's statements (or those by some of the other more subtle Mohammedtrolls we've encountered) can or will be easily 'seen through' by new readers here, either at the time or when they lob in here via google in future.
Sometimes the sneakier statements made by the Muslim spin-doctors have to be challenged and exploded - not because it will make any difference to *them* - it most likely won't, though one never knows - but because non-Muslim newbies here need to see it done.
AM, you are now citing Catholics in witness of the "true" nature of Islam. Well, coming from a ?religion? that believes its Allah changed his mind [2:106] halfway through writing his perfect book.....
Abdullah, We're still waiting for you to condemn those nasty verses of the Quran. You've indicated you're a decent peaceful guy at heart so it shouldn't be difficult.
For your convenience here's the quotes again: "Can we ask you here to confirm that you condemn for instance 9:5, 9:29, you condemn Mohammed's ethnic cleansing terrorism as was enthused about in 59:2-8, you condemn the approval of rape stated in 4:24 and 33:50, and so on."