Ft. Hood jihadist's cousin: "If he had killed one or two, I could say that he was defending himself."

Just a little murder. This quote comes from Nidal Malik Hasan's cousin in an article that, like many news reports, comes perilously close to offering any alienation or mistreatment Hasan may have perceived as an excuse for his rampage. Broken moral compasses and outrageous claims of moral equivalence abound.

The headline here seemed promising for a moment, but it's not what CNN meant. "Fort Hood suspect's religion was an issue, family says," from CNN, November 6:

FORT HOOD, Texas (CNN) -- The bumper sticker reading "Allah is Love" was torn off and the car was keyed.

Dawah, alluding to 1 John 4:8. But while one of the 99 names of Allah is "al-wadud," "the loving," one cannot attempt to equate the relative importance of love in the two religions' narratives without being disingenuous.

A police report was filed in the August 16 incident involving Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's Honda, and a neighbor was charged with criminal mischief. But what kind of impact that incident, and possibly others, had on Hasan remains a mystery.
While few official details have been released about Hasan, his family and others have given some insight into the man accused of killing 13 people and wounded 38 others in Thursday's massacre at Fort Hood Army Post in Texas. [...]
Hasan's cousin, Mohammad Munif Abdallah Hasan, said the Army major had wanted to leave the military because he felt disrespected over his religion.
"There was racism towards him because he's a Muslim, because he's an Arab, because he prays," the cousin said in a CNN interview in the Palestinian city of Ramallah. "They used to see him dress in traditional Muslim clothing, so he was a bit irritated because of this. Also, the fact that they wanted to send him to Iraq. He decided to leave the Army for good and hire a lawyer because of this matter." [...]
There are about 3,500 Muslims in the U.S. Army, less than 1 percent of the total number of soldiers. The investigation into the shootings is ongoing, and Army officials have not indicated any evidence of Hasan being harassed among the ranks.
Hasan's cousin said that despite the concerns over discrimination, a motive behind the shootings still was incomprehensible.
"If he had killed one or two, I could say that he was defending himself. I could say that there could have been a problem between two sides which led to the use of weapons. But for one to kill 13 people and injure more than 30, I personally don't think that it was because someone was bothering him. There is a bigger reason that this happened and no ones knows it besides Nidal."

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islam - a little bit of:
murder
rape
robbery
theft
amputation
extortion
lying
slavery
wives beating
sex slavery
'regular' slavery
beheading
kidnapping
... and all other major felonies by Western Standards are allowed/condoned/or required by the koran.

Anyone know of peer-reviewed, medical literature that correlates constant head banging against the floor with a diminished capacity for logic, reasoning, compassion and empathy?
Jew Lover

islam - a little bit of:
murder
rape
robbery
theft
amputation
extortion
lying
slavery
wives beating
sex slavery
'regular' slavery
beheading
kidnapping
... and all other major felonies by Western Standards are allowed/condoned/or required by the koran.

Anyone know of peer-reviewed, medical literature that correlates constant head banging against the floor with a diminished capacity for logic, reasoning, compassion and empathy?
Jew Lover

"If he had killed one or two, I could say that he was defending himself. I could say that there could have been a problem between two sides which led to the use of weapons."

Yes, yes...except that Hasan was the only one with the weapons. Very brave little whining-like-a-girl Muslim man, very brave indeed.

the pious muslim male preferred method of killing is attacking by ambush on unarmed civlians preferred. l say pull out the plug and replug a few times a day on this maggot infested islamist!

Of those "3,500 Muslims," how many are members of that homebrown, essentially the anti-cirumambient-society, Black-Power-With-A-Muslim-Twist group, the Nation of Islam?

That surely accounts for all but a few hundred. And of those few hundred, how many are not very observant, choosing to ignore what, if they look at in the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, and are honest (at least with themselves), they know is a distinct message of hatred toward non-Muslims, and of solidarity with other Muslims, as those Muslims in the Taliban, and Al Qaeda. The only real (that is non-Nation-of-Islam) Muslims who successfully reconcile, with difficulty, their own service in the military with what Islam inculcates are those who tell themselves that, after all, the American army is helping other Muslims, in Iraq and Afghanistan, who outnumber the mewmbers of Al-Qaeda and the Talbian and similar groups. Or some variant on the theme -- as those few Shi'a Muslims who may have supported enthusiastically the invasion of Iraq, not because they are loyal Americans, but because they saw the American army as the one force that could, by removing Saddam Hussein, do the work of the Shi'a for them and ensure the power would be transferred to Shi'a Arabs (and some Kurds in this country may have been impelled by similar motives).

It is ludicrous for any military, or police, or other security services, anywhere in the Western world, ever to contemplate putting Muslims in any position where access to truly dangerous weaponry (e.g., planes) or to truly important secrets, might thereby be made possible. It is ludicrous to pretend there is no permanent security threat There is.

H. sez:


"It is ludicrous for any military, or police, or other security services, anywhere in the Western world, ever to contemplate putting Muslims in any position where access to truly dangerous weaponry (e.g., planes) or to truly important secrets, might thereby be made possible. It is ludicrous to pretend there is no permanent security threat There is. "


I would add...the military in its infinite non wisdom mode will do exactly that...to prove to the Muslims the military doesn't think no Muslims could be so trusted...which in fact, they can't....because hidden deep within all Muslims is "Sudden Jihad Syndrome"...just waiting for that opportunistic moment to strike...Islam...feel the love?

Sudden jihad syndrome...or planned attack...soldiers in the trenches beware, there is no reliable way to tell if a Mahoundian fellow soldier will protect your back or shoot you in the back...
Mahoundians should be excluded from any military service...The soldiers should only have to worry about the enemy outside, not the enemy inside...

There are three opinion pieces in today's NYT regarding the Fort Hood tragedy, and ALL THREE focus exclusively on PTSD to explain the killings.

I find it hard to believe no one on the NYT staff watches CNN. Anderson Cooper's show yesterday evening reported, among other things, that Hasan:

Appeared obsessed with the "war on terror" being a "war against Islam" by the United States (this from a fellow physician and classmate of Hasan in a Master's of Public Health program two years ago; the classmate also stated that Hasan seemed to make "himself a lightning rod" for criticism of Islam);

Was reported by other students in the MPH program to the program's military superiors because of concerns over his anti-American, pro-Islamic statements (one student reportedly told superiors Hasan was a "ticking time bomb");

Gave a Power Point presentation in one class justifying suicide bombings;

Had a visitor--according to neighbors interviewed by the program, the only visitor they had ever seen Hasan receive--the day before the attack, who was wearing traditional Islamic garb, and who stayed for only a few minutes;

Frequently used his elderly next-door neighbor's computer for Internet use, although he had his own computer and Internet service....

And this was all on CNN, folks, not the much-reviled Fox News, yet I cannot find one word about any of this in the NYT, the major California papers, etc. Obviously, none of the above points to PTSD.

It would be wonderful (although preaching to the choir, I realize) to have a link to video of Cooper's program yesterday posted on JW.

There was racism towards him because he's a Muslim, because he's an Arab, because he prays," the cousin said in a CNN interview in the Palestinian city of Ramallah.

Racism? He was born in the U.S. and declared himself a Palestinian. Who's the racist here?

pthththththth....When Muslims kill people ....it's always in defense......What is Islam doing that causes it to be always "on Defense"....

This dude spouts on and on about suicide bombers having a just cause; he promotes Islam and its eternal complaints-against-the-Other to people around him, both at work and in the seminars & classes the Army has paid him to take. Presumably somebody gets fed up with his Islamic Supremacism and keys his car. He takes this as an affront to Islam (never bothering to consider that it might in some small way have been triggered by HIS actions and HIS proselytizing) and "feels persecuted".

Damn, this is JUST like the neighborhood bully who beats up all the little kids; when one day somebody fights back and leaves him with a bloody nose, he is surprised and indignant: "It's not fair!!! He came at me out of the blue, for no good reason!"

This "feeling of persecution" is apparently common among motor-mouth America-bashing Muslims, and yet they haven't got the mental equipment necessary to see THEY CAUSED THE 'BACKLASH' by their speech and behavior in the first place.

Anderson Cooper's program on CNN also showed Muslimist shriekers annoying passers-by in (I believe) NYC; CNN noted that these men were careful to stay within the limits of the law as they denounced America and the West, and handed out their leaflets. Maybe we need a warrior-preacher to form a new group called Hizb-Yaweh; he and his followers would go out and stand toe-to-toe with these fiqh-heads and shout back about why OUR culture is best and why Islamic culture is evil. (This would also be a good test of whether "free speech" protections still apply to Americans who believe in their country, or whether --as in Europe-- such protections only cover those who would destroy us. If the Americans get harassed by the police for causing a disturbance while the Islamists don't, that would sure be worth a YouTube video! Maybe Fox News might even mention it.)

educating the public about the real operations and desires of Islam is always a good plan....If you are going to die, at least die informed....

The thing that upsets me more than anything is that everyone turned a blind eye because of "muti-culturalism." He is a traitor and should be treated like one. If not the flawed system we have in place is what is going to unravel this country.

Is "Nidal" a synonym for "jihad?"

"If he had killed one or two, I could say that he was defending himself."

-- Hasan's cousin.

He wasn't defending himself: he was defending 1.2 billion Muslims. He was defending the Umma and the Islam which the Umma realizes on Earth. And many, many more Muslims will have to kill many, many more Unbelievers to continue "defending" that larger entity.

"There is a bigger reason that this happened and no ones knows it besides Nidal."

-- Hasan's cousin, again.

The bigger reason is the bigger thing than himself which he was defending, through following verses like Koran 9:111 as the pivot for all the other texts and sermons of Islam he has learned. It is safe -- nay, obligatory for us -- to assume that Hasan's cousin is seemingly clueless but really clever.

There was a "bigger reason" this happened, says the cousin. Notice, he didn't say this was insanity, or that there could be no good reason -- the cousin says the killer had not merely a reason, but a "bigger" reason. Sounds like the cousin is sneakily justifying the murders.

At the risk of offending those who feel differently (as if I actually cared), this reminds me of vacationing at the coast a couple of years ago and spotting a bumper-sticker-laden car parked next to mine in a restaurant parking lot.

The sticker on the left was a slobbering apology for Pro-Choice by the kind folks at Planned Parenthood.

The sticker on the right was from the local chapter of the Humane Society.


Cognitive dissonance at its finest, post-modern squishy-ness.

"There is a bigger reason that this happened and no ones knows it besides Nidal."

Actually lots of us know it. And were there any doubt Nidal told us himself.

Mo, if you were an intellectual adult, if you had a shred of intellectual integrity, if, in short, you were a proper civilized man, you would wrap your teeth around the cold facts and bite down hard.

Destiny has presented you with a golden opportunity to become a hero ... a moral and intellectual exemplar.

I'm betting that you will refuse it in favor of mediocrity and pretend ignorance.

You would do yourself and the rest of the world a HUGE favor by proving me wrong.

But I don't think you will.

Thousands, indeed millions like you have come and gone before, have been weighed in the balance of history, and have been found wanting.

You will stand with the Russians who didn't know about what went on in Stalin's Siberia, the Chinese who don't know even today about the Lao Gai "reeducation" camps, the crowds of media people and "human rights" characters that don't know about the horrors of North Korea, and the Iraqis who didn't know about Saddam's rape rooms and torture chambers.

Apparently you don't think you have what it takes to recognize and tell the world that your culture is contaminated with murderous inhumanity. I would have been inclined to think otherwise, to think that there's more to you than you seem to think. But who knows, maybe you don't have the stuff to even admit the truth to yourself.

You will become one of those people who's touch, I suspect, would make you feel dirty.

And be thus forgotten.

Defending himself from whom? Who was threatening his life? Each and every life he took was an act of cold-blooded murder. He shot at a room of UNARMED people.

On the point about the bumper sticker that says 'Allah is love', I checked out the names of allah in wiki where it gives a slightly longer version of the meaning of al-wadud: "The One Who Loves His Believing Slaves and His Believing Slaves Love Him". This does tend to suggest that, at least for the compiler of that particular list, infidels are not included, somehow. If you google the phrase "the one who loves his believing.... etc" there are pages and pages of sites given, so it would seem to be a common usage.

Hasan is a girly man coward. Shooting unarmed people in the back. His actions were premeditated, he bought the pistols before, gave his stuff away before, and had admired suicide bombers.

Hasan was on a DHS Committee (SECURITY PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION) to advise Obama!!
(page 29, on bottom of page, page 32 using menu bar.)
http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf

Do you think the enemy is at our gates or already through?

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