Irish convert misunderstands Islam, wants to kill for Allah

the only comment so far in the Times is "what a complete,total,and utter prat". Totally agree but would add "dangerous" and "thieving". The latter on the grounds that it is pretty well certain that his Pakistani wife and three sons , living in the UK, are being totally supported by British welfare benefits to which "Khalid Kelly" can have contributed nothing. He only moved to the UK in 2008 having been living tax free in Saudi for some years.
I hope his wish to become a martyr is rather quickly achieved without him achieving his other wish to kill Brits and Americans. Then I hope that his dependents are deported to whence they came - hopefully in abject poverty. My Christian feelings desert me at this time.

Ireland goes before Scotland it appears:
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Farright-extremists-contained--amid.5825367.jp

Note: standing up against rape, murder, slavery, sex slavery, robbery, theft, subjugation, and all other acts that are an anathema to Western Civilizations is considered "right wing."
Jew Lover

Once islam is embraced one is forced to surrender one's brain, one's reasoning and rationality.
Kelly khalid is a prime example of that.

I should imagine that St Brendan, St Bridget, St Patrick, St Columban, St Flannan, St Kevin and all the rest are *furious* with this idiot for dragging the name of Holy ireland through the mud. He had better watch out, if the good Lord decides to let them pay him a visit so they can put a flea in his ear.

Looks like a new Irish national dinner menu is on the horizon.

Corned Beef & Damage.
Irish Blow-Up Bread.
And a wee taste of Whiskey... Tango Foxtrot !

So let me get this straight......

Someone from The UK actually meets and interviews this traitor.... and claiming some sort of press cover (or agreeing with the s.o.b.'s agenda), doesn't forward the location to any military authority ?

Man, I can't imagine what could happen if there would be anyone like this guy in our military here in the US..... Oh, wait.......

Kenny Solomon
Senior Expediter
The 72 Virgins Club Travel Agency

No snakes in Ireland eh? Well not anymore I guess.He's obviously not drinking enough. May he be half an hour in hell before allah knows he's dead.

For all the propaganda of peace Islam ganarates, notice Islam seems to attract the criminal, violent, illitrate.Islam also blasts of numbers.. ust as a cult would, more shallow, superficial and deceptive, then deep, noble and genuine.
Yes, Islam sounds more like a cult, but that is not what corrupt, sell-out American politician swill tell you:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2344849/posts
http://pluralism.org/news/view/4132
Then again, American citizens elect and re-elect corrupt and timid politicians, ignoring genuine American patriots like Tom Tancredo. Ofcourse, as they are discovering every day, there is a price to pay.

l always wonder when these converts say "our lands" when referring to the pak ect, when this asshole was born and raised in other lands, ie Ireland? this is truly a brain washed cult, you lose your name, family and now place of birth. You see this man is very tiny minded since he is now an islamist terrorist. he stands out among the paks, arabs, if he was plain Kerry of Ireland how would he stand out?

Someone posted this before. A very informative and hard hitting article in the Belfast Telegraph that exposes the muslim habit of always blaming others.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/why-fear-leaves-us-powerless-in-the-face-of-islamic-terrorism-14562754.html

He is also unapologetic about his desire to fund, encourage and take part in terrorism. “I always believe Islam is terrorism. We are told to terrorise the enemies of Islam,” he said. “The world will become a dangerous place. Everybody had better start embracing Islam or people will start flying planes into buildings again.”

So it is alright for Khalid Kelly to make such an assertion? Why is it "Islamophobic" when Robert Spencer points out that Muslims like Kelly make such claims about Islam?

From Terry...We'll kill and bomb you as you have killed and bombed our lands."

'Our lands'...Terry never had a pot to pzz in or a window to throw it out of, but due to shahada, he is now a land owner...Allah owns all the land and has given the deed to his submitting Mahoundians...All the land, every piece of dirt anywhere, belongs to Islam and Terry, and according to Allah's rental agreement, all kufr must be converted, subdued and taxed, killed or driven off...Terry has assumed the role of 'property manager for Allah'...And seeks to kill the kufr trespassers...Allah willing, and when it comes to killing kufr trespassers, he always is...

He needs to be beaten with a shillelagh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xy4eDKTaQA

Let him be known in the future by his DNA.

Misunderstanding a hands on explosives lesson would be a wonderful start.

"His son, named Osama after Kelly's role model, lives in Britain with his Pakistani mother and two younger brothers."

Who's paying for the upkeep on Osama Kell, his two brothers, and Khalid Kelly's "Pakistani" wife?

"Everybody had better start embracing Islam or people will start flying planes into buildings again."

The above is so unbelievably pathetic that you just have to shake your head in wonder.

Obviously this guy is so deficient as a human that he has to embrace a "Kill" belief system in order to feel as though he has some power and worth in the world.

Oh, and by "people" you mean Muslims? Then say "Muslims" not "people" you piece of human filth.

Killing for Allah...Say shahada once, say shahada twice, but never ever say shahada thrice...
Look how much good it did Terry, and Hasan, and numerous others...Look at how beneficial shahada has been to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed...Look at what it did to Abdullah M...
Disgusting...Skin eruptions breaking out everywhere...Three times shahada is toxic...only apostasy can neutralize it...

"As long as we have no security, you will have no security. We'll kill and bomb you as you have killed and bombed our lands."

It's not just Muslims who need be reminded of one salient fact: There was no war in Iraq or Afghanistan on Sept.11, 2001.

I find the combination of names hilarious when one of these douche bags converts ."Khalid Kelly"......HA!! That's like "Mohammed Jones" GMAFB!!

Hmm. Why aren't his Muslim buddies disabusing him of the notion that "Islam is terrorism"? Hm? I wonder why no one is correcting his "misunderstanding" of Islam... gee, that's a tough one ...

And another thing - if he had been an "average Western racist" before his conversion, what the hell was he doing living in Saudi Arabia amongst "sand niggers" and "ragheads"?

Stupid idiot, he's one of those who thinks that if we don't embrace a third-world way of life over our own, we're "racists".

I like the tolerance he shows by repeating the muslim mantra,"Everybody had better start embracing Islam or people will start flying planes into buildings again."

Feel the love! Imagine the inclusive ecstasy of the left wing if the first building they flew into were to be the DNC Headquarters. What an opportunity the left would have to proclaim their joy at being able to demonstrate their acceptance of an act of non-terrorism, merely a people disaffected by George Bush and expressing their willingness to sit down with Khalid Kelly with a little Irish brew and discuss the surrender terms.

Have you noticed Muslims "want to kill" much more than they "want to live" when they talk about non Muslims...

Hugh asks who is caring for kelly's wifee and spawns, why the those hard working Irish are paying the tax bill aka welfare.

"Everybody had better start embracing Islam or people will start flying planes into buildings again."

The above is so unbelievably pathetic that you just have to shake your head in wonder.--Darcy

I noticed that, too. It sounds like a threat coming from the mouth of a five year-old. What is it about "embracing Islam" that turns people into bad tempered little children?

Emotions of children. Armed with adult weapons...not a pretty mental picture.

"Psycho Killer" - and mini-psycho killer in training, baby killer Osama.

The real story surely goes something like this.

He was slaving away as a male nurse in Saudi Arabia. He was treated with contumely by the Saudi Arabs. He bootlegged liquor. He was arrested and thrown in a Saudi jail. There, in order to get better treatment and early release, he accepted Islam, or at least went through the motions. Then, having done so, in order to face himself in the morning he had to force himself to believe in Islam, to interpret what he had done not as an act of craven cowardice (he was too dumb to simply view it as an act of low cunning, his "conversion" to be sloughed off as soon as he was setfree), that is, merely something he had done to escape punishment from cruel Muslim jailers. And one thing led to another, and he became a True Believer, with all of the fanatical fervor of the convert, or "revert" (who take their Islam straight up, not on the rocks, nuanced by time and custom), and now here he is, this ridiculous and pathetic figure, Khaled Kelly, eager to fight British or American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Let's hope for the desired outcome.

Once when I was in Ireland I was asked if I had any "Irish Blood" in me. As I am half Irish I answered yes. The next question asked me was "What colour is it?". The questioner probably wanted to know if it was orange or green. I didn't answer. Now I wonder if Mr. Kelly's blood is Irish green or Muslim green.

Virgil asks

Why is it "Islamophobic" when Robert Spencer points out that Muslims like Kelly make such claims about Islam?

As addled as the PC MCs are, they are not always bereft of logic. In this particular instance, there is a simple logic at work that answers Virgil's question:

1) The vast majority of Muslims are good people whom we must respect, and furthermore must protect from our own white Western tendency toward bigotry, prejudice and mistreatment

2) By extenstion, the Islam they follow is good and must be respected by us, and protected from our own white Western tendency toward bigotry, prejudice and mistreatment

3) A tiny minority of Muslims are extremists who are trying to twist and hijack Islam to suit their ends.

3a) A significant proportion of that tiny minority of Muslim extremists are behaving in extremist ways in understandable reaction against Western policies of "meddling" in their lands, as well as in understandable reaction against our white Western tendency toward bigory and prejudice against them as an Ethnic People (with the occasional white Muslim among them being christened as an "Honorary Brown").

4) Now, when a Robert Spencer focuses and harps on what this tiny minority of extremists believe and how they act on their beliefs, he is tending to blur the Line we are trying to maintain between that tiny minority and the vast majority of Good Muslims: Spencer is tending to imply that many more Muslims outside that tiny minority are extremist, and we cannot have that. We must maintain that tiny minority strictly, and not allow the hard and fast Line that protects them from being extremist to erode. If that Line begins to erode, that would mean that the problem is much larger than we thought, and we cannot have that. It would mean we would have to become suspicious of, if not hostile against, millions of Brown People. And then we white Western Racists would be forced to come out of the closet and start going down the slippery slope that leads inexorably from mistreating Muslims, to rounding them up, putting them in camps, cleansing them ethnically -- and finally, at that point unavoidably, genocide. In order to prevent another Holocaust -- this time against the New Jew, the Muslim -- we must maintain a firm stand at the Line that forever separates that tiny minority of extremist who has nothing really to do with Islam, from the vast majority of Good Muslims who in our minds prove that Islam is sugar and Oriental spice and everything nice.

In regards to all of the Muslims misunderstanding their religion in this strange mass anomaly we are facing today. I just heard that there are going to be Congressional hearings ... you know to figure it out. This reminds me of the emperors new clothes. OOOOHHH Congressional HEARINGS HAHAHA. Orwell would be so proud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDr69VOv6g&feature=related

So, the Irish jihadi wants to fight?
May he realize he has "been had" soon, no virgins for you!

Its good to know Kelly is unapologetic for his Jihad ways.
This way I can say unapologetically that the IRA should said somebody over to where he is and kill him.

Wonderin, no problem. Thanks Spirit Wolf. I was indeed psychoanalyzing the PC MC mind.

Hey, Khalid...

I got something for your ass.

This story reminds me of the similarities between Islamic extremists and the IRA. A small minority of the Irish actually participated in violent activities. However, a vast majority agreed with what they were doing and refused to assist or thwarted attempts to investigate its perpetrators. When authorities came searching for information the local's answers were the same: I don't know anyone in the IRA, nor do I condone what they do. Justification for violent action was based on religious suppression and used as a motivational tool. Vast sums of money and weapons came from sympathizers in the US and other immigrant Irish populations. (I remember, many a year ago in Southie, large collection jars on the bar filled with cash - they weren't for the local Little League.) The betrayers and instigators are the same: corporations with interests in the occupation. The grievance and its solution is the same: get out.

One or two people seem to think that this guy left his Pakistani wife and 3 future jahadis in Ireland. No he left them in England where as others have noted they are bring maintained by the UK taxpayer. It would be interesting to know if he is drawing British unemployment pay while in Pakistan. I would guess he is because "British Asians" who live there for months at a time and are NOT on jihad do.

BTW his family would not do so well in Ireland where they take this sort of thing very personally.

I was listening to Irish radio 15 or so years ago. This was after a (Palestinian?) had tried to put his 6 months pregnant Irish girlfriend on an El Al flight from London with a bomb in her suitcase. If I remember correctly the Irish commentator said in a none too friendly way "We'd like to get our hands on that fella for a few minutes"

A few people seem to think this guy left his Pakistani wife and three future jihadis in Ireland. As others have noted a he did not, he left them in England for the UK taxpayer to maintain. It would be interesting to know if he is also drawing British unemployment pay why he's in Pakistan. My guess would be he is because “British Asians” who spend a good part of the year living and are NOT on jihad do.

BTW to his family would not do so well in Ireland where they take this sort of thing personally

I recall listening to Irish radio about 15 years ago after a (Palestinian?) had attempted to put his six months pregnant Irish girlfriend on a London to Tel-Aviv flight. Not being into martyrdom, he had skilfully concealed a bomb in her suitcase that passed British security at the time but was found by El Al special pre-flight security. As I recall the Irish commentator said in a none too friendly way “We'd like to get our hands on that fella for five minutes”. Even today I guess they would feel the same way about "Kalid" Kelly.

Let's face it folks, the UK is going Islamic.
When your own people spit at you and call you by racial slurs because you're standing up for your own country there is definitely something wrong.
Ket the UK go. They'll learn their lesson when it is too late. The governments and the British PC-MC media have done an excellent job of using their well-spun propaganda to brainwash and poison the poeples minds against those who would help them out of this Islamic quagmire. So let them learn the hard way...tough love!
Good-bye Brits! It was sure good t'know ya, eh!

I found a link to the RTE Late Late Show in which Khalid Kelly and Anjem Choudhary spout their stuff in front of an Irish audience.
Bizarrely, Kelly's Irish charm seems largely intact, though the words coming from him are distilled evil.

Sorry, bad link. Try this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2998048752087753250#
If that fails, google 'Anjem and Khalid Kelly Irish TV'

Bizarrely, Kelly's Irish charm seems largely intact, though the words coming from him are distilled evil.

It's not so bizarre. The fact is, there is a strong element in Irish culture that is virulently anti-British; and this too often tends to lead inexorably to (or stems inexorably from) a deeper, murkier anti-Westernism -- for, to be anti-British, just as much as to be anti-Catholic, is to partake unavoidably of anti-Westernism. (This is not to factor in the additional perversity characteristic of PC MC: namely, that Britain has in many ways become anti-British, just as America has in many ways become anti-American, and the entire West has in many ways become anti-Western).

Thus Khalid Kelly found in Islam the logical extension of his own homegrown Irish pathology. This isn't limited to the Irish, of course; as indicated above, the entire West has the virus of Leftism, and the more pleasantly insidious strains of PC MC derived from Leftism. In this regard, the Irish pathology only distinguishes itself by local added color; but it is there nonetheless.

I think you have a point about Khalid Kelly being predisposed to anti-Western actions on account of his Irish anti-Brit culture. His own narrative in the film, which was recorded I think in January '08, shows him at an earlier stage in his development as a Jihadi than he was at in the Sunday Times interview. Much earlier, I think, since latterly he was also threatening to attack an Irish embassy, something that would not be a healthy thing to say in the Dublin TV studio.
But I do feel that if the Irish culture were a powerful factor, we would surely be seeing more examples of this kind of behaviour by Irish Muslims. Yet I can't think of another similar case.
His main qualification as a candidate for this kind of fruitloopery is extreme credulousness. His belief and devotion to Islam was instant and complete. Having decided to embrace it he made a point of studying all the rules and obeying them all at once. As soon as he learned that charging interest on a loan was forbidden, for example, he immediately sold his house, because the repayments included interest.
When a guy like this reads some of the verses in the Koran, it's no surprise that he will want to start slaughtering non-Muslims as soon as possible.
Time to ban all Muslim organizations that propagate such dangerous beliefs.
Such as Islam4UK and HuT.

What an ASS!!
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199613.php

Bad Mo Foe

"Now, genocide is something I am not in favor of; I mean, we would be no better than the jihadists were that to happen. So, my question(s) in all seriousness is this: how do we not go down that slope or is it inevitable?"

I think you misunderstood my point, though I probably didn't make it clear enough. There is no danger of us going down that slippery slope. It's a deluded lie perpetrated by Leftists and the PC MC. I was explicating their twisted logic, not the actual likely scenario of the real West that is good and doesn't do genocide -- that in fact consistently has stopped, or tried to stop, genocide and other geopolitical crimes. They are irrationally afraid of their own West mistreating Muslims, because deep down they hate their own West and think it has evil proclivities. They might have a point if Hitler had won WW2, but they don't seem to notice that in fact the enemies of Hitler won WW2. The West shut down Hitler. On the other hand, it would be silly to think we will be able to manage the problem of such a deadly and fanatical enemy as Muslims without breaking a few eggs in the decades to come, just as we had to bomb the shit out of Hitler and the religiously fanatical followers of the God-Emperor of Japan, in fact.

"To start; it seems obvious to me that there are many Muslims who, for whatever combination of reasons, are not trying to kill us and impose Sharia"

Yes, it seems that way, since all of them are not exploding and shooting and beheading. But the problem is, a) the ones who aren't are enabling the ones who are in a variety of ways; and b) we cannot tell the difference with sufficient reliability between the harmless Muslims and the dangerous Muslims. Just look at the story a couple of articles above this one, about the British Muslims who turned out to be terrorists, yet their neighbors were shocked because they seemed to be nice polite Muslims. That story has been duplicated a thousand times over the years. The risks are too high -- particularly with the prospect of fanatics acquiring WMDs of one flavor or another (biological, chemical, radiological) -- to bet our safety on the mere appearance of niceness on the part of any given Muslims. The only rational way to proceed is to suspect all Muslims of equal deadliness to us.

The optimal way to manage this problem, in my view, is to deport all Muslims to the Dar-al-Islam, then militarily enforce that they remain there.

See my essays on this:

An Iron Veil

Questions about the Iron Veil

"for, to be anti-British, just as much as to be anti-Catholic, is to partake unavoidably of anti-Westernism."

This is an interesting assertion, given that the 'troubles' in Eire, however far back you wish to date them from then until the present day, have very little to do with 'anti-Westernism' in the sense that you propose.

They may have little to do with it in material terms, but I am talking about mental and psychological attitudes that co-exist with others.

It ought to be painfully clear that any anti-Catholicism that is entrenched within the minds of the Irish Protestants is in no way similar to the anti-Catholicism that festers in the hearts of the jihadis.

I didn't say they were similar. But nonetheless, they share a similar result; that's why we have seen numerous Leftists warm up to Islam, because both groups hate the West, both hate Christians, both hate Jews. Leftists don't realize that the Muslims hate these categories for different reasons, of course. Nevertheless, it's the anti-Western proclivity of Leftists (and in diluted fashion, of PC MCs), along with the flip side of that coin, irrationally excessive adoration of non-Western Noble Savages, that tends to motivate their whitewashing of Muslims.

The Irish uprisings and revolts have nothing to do with the same flavor of self-loathing religious fervor that is to be found in Islam.

Muslims don't have self-loathing. In fact, they suffer from the precise opposite pathology: an utter absence of self-criticism at all, as long as they remain Muslims that is. They may loathe themselves on a deeper level, which makes them Muslim in the first place, but that's a separate issue.

Catholics and Protestants are religious terms that were applied to social groups in an effort to undermine the aims of one another for control of the island, and the extant anti-British strain continues to exist as a result of these things.

It can do that, and at the same time, among certain numbers of Irish, also merge with a deeper antipathy toward the British, and toward the West that the Britain represents.

WyldeIrishman

the link I gave for 'The Deer's Cry' was non-active.

Here is a different one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx_Lu4PymE&feature=related