"The military has been following attempts to carry out attacks through the 'U-route', where Gazan terrorists travel to Egypt, then turn back upon reaching Sinai and infiltrate Israel via the more penetrable Israel-Egypt border."
"Terror attack foiled as troops chase away man carrying bomb," by Yaakov Katz for the Jerusalem Post, November 26:
An IDF bomb squad detonated a 15-kilogram explosive seized during a search conducted along the Egyptian border on Thursday.
Late Wednesday night, IDF troops on a routine patrol of the border area spotted a suspicious figure carrying a bag containing what was later discovered to be a 15-kilogram bomb.
The soldiers ordered him to stop and fired several shots in the air. However, the man fled the scene back into Egypt, dropping the bag in his haste.
IDF sources said it was possible that the suspected terrorist was from the Gaza Strip and had crossed into the Sinai Peninsula with the intention of then crossing into Israel to carry out an attack.
The military has been following attempts to carry out attacks through the 'U-route', where Gazan terrorists travel to Egypt, then turn back upon reaching Sinai and infiltrate Israel via the more penetrable Israel-Egypt border.
Channel 10 quoted security officials as assessing the device was either meant to be used in Eilat, Israel's southernmost city, or in another major Israeli city to which the suspect would have been driven, in order to perpetrate a multiple-casualty attack.
OC Southern Command Maj. Gen. Yoav Galant praised the soldiers' alertness and quick response.
"The military has been following attempts to carry out attacks through the 'U-route', where Gazan terrorists travel to Egypt, then turn back upon reaching Sinai and infiltrate Israel via the more penetrable Israel-Egypt border."
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Of course they are. It's like Jihadists who have started to come over the border into the U.S. illegally from Mexico, rather than deal with stiffer security at American airports.
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The soldiers ordered him to stop and fired several shots in the air. However, the man fled the scene back into Egypt, dropping the bag in his haste.
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So—I suppose Israel can expect Egyptians authorities to make apprehending this would be Jihad terrorist bomber a priority...or maybe not...
The soldiers ordered him to stop and fired several shots in the air.
Here, once again, we see enacted the crux of the problem in the Middle East -- the vicious Gestapo-like tactics of the Israeli military. For all these "soldiers" knew, the poor man they casually, one might even say genocidally, subjected to deadly assault might have been carrying in desperately needed medical supplies to his persecuted Arab brothers and sisters, buried as they are in the belly of the Zionist beast. Did the storm troopers ask? Nooooo. They preemptorily "ordered" the poor terrified creature to HALT, and when he naturally did not understand them and hesitated, they opened fire on him as though he were some kind of sub-human animal.
It was a war crime, I tell you. Until these incidents (and further illegal constructions in the "occupied" territories) cease, there will be no peace.
pardon me filthy. Were you there? do you know what was or what wasn't said to the the bomb toting middle eastern attempted murderer? If the news paper article says they said stop, it seems that the ignorant mad bomber proved himself to be wrong. what about the storm trooper terrorists who don't say anything when they blow up women and children in their own countries? I don't think you are playing with a full deck !!
Learning,
Have you never heard of sarcasm?
=== " The soldiers ordered him to stop and fired several shots in the air. " ===
The Egyptian border patrol shoots to kill any Sudanese refugee who is trying to spare his/her life and find work in Israel (from all places...). None of them carried bombs not even food for the road!...
If this is not " The Goldstone syndrome effect ", then what is it?
Just the other day I was standing in a checkout at Walmart and I happened to look over at a checkout, three down from mine, to notice there were three Arab, and one Somali-looking men, each checking out with rather large blue and white back packs.
I thought, "hmmm, I wonder if those guys are gong to use those back-packs for something terror-related" and then I brushed it off, gave me head a shake and thought, "what are you thinking, are you getting paranoid as well?" Perhaps I should have been paranoid? These guys may have been collecting their supplies for an attack on either Canada or the US. Or maybe they are headed over to Somalia to carry out something?
It's one thing to be supicious and it's another to be finger-pointing and getting your ass sued for discrimination. But it's always good to notice these things just in case something suspicious does turn up in the news.
I just am not sure how to handle situations like those anymore. You don't want to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.
On the subject of Israel generally, a former head of the Australian Jewish committee, namely Isi Leibler, has an excellent contribution to the Israel/Palestine conflict debate over at CiF at the Guardian.
Good to see that, probably in response to criticism, they have published a pro-Israel account to contrast with the unrelieved monotony of the usual anti-Israel screeds.
Not that many readers are swayed by the incontrovertible logic and good sense of Mr Leibler, judging by the comments:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/26/europe-double-standards-israel
al-Kidya
You ARE a paranoid!
You are suffering from the classic Israeli "Post Trauma Syndrome "!
There is no cure to this illness!
Welcome to the club.
Often, sarcasm doesn't translate well over the 'net. Which is why people use "sarc on" after their comment.
Also, there's Jonathan Swift, and then there's not.
To al-Kidya -
You had every right to view those backpacks suspiciously. I mean, what are grown men doing with backpacks? Those are for kids to carry books in.
There's a saying that goes something like, "The paranoid man is the one who knows what's going on."
I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
IDF troops on a routine patrol of the border area spotted a suspicious figure carrying a bag...
Anybody have an estimate of the % of annual budget the Israeli Jews spend on supervising Moslems, both inside and outside Israel's borders?
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You have to admit, though, that when the Moslems cooked up the historical lie of the foresaken Palestinian nation it was a marketing coup.
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They've gotten 450,000 miles outta that vehicle, and supertaker loads of cash money, too. What a great journey we've all taken in that ride.
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And kudos must also go out to the Western media for having bought into the "Palestinian" thing hook-line-and-sinker when it was first cooked up and launched back in the Hippie Era, Haight Ashbury and Washington Square and all that.
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The Palestinians appeared on the scene back then, which ain't necessarily a coincidence.
"The soldiers ordered him to stop and fired several shots in the air. However, the man fled the scene back into Egypt, dropping the bag in his haste."
As Israel is the target of ongoing Muslim attacks...once the command to stop is ignored by a suspicious person sneaking into the country carrying a package of unknown content...the sights should be lowered and the intruder stopped....The suspicious package could be only candy for the kids or it could be a bomb, or some sort of chemical or biological weapon....If I am patrolling the border of such a hostile place I would have to suspect the worse and act accordingly...
Have you ever tried to flee a DUI checkpoint..?
Ninty eight percent of my comments are sarcastic...Whenever I post about Islam or Rasool Obama, sarcasm overwhelms me...I just can't help it...
This guy may not have been a bomber, but maybe a business man, looking to sell the explosives to a Gazan bomber...I wonder what 15kg, hand delivered, is going for on the 'Palestinian' terrorist market?
Ninty eight percent of my comments are sarcastic...Whenever I post about Islam or Rasool Obama, sarcasm overwhelms me...I just can't help it...
This guy may not have been a bomber, but maybe a business man, looking to sell the explosives to a Gazan bomber...I wonder what 15kg, hand delivered, is going for on the 'Palestinian' terrorist market?
Can't understand why Israel won't control the border area between Gaza and Egypt to stop flow of weapons and terrorists. All they need is French Maginot line style concrete bunkers along the border.
Gentlemen
I have a question of a purely technical nature, which those of you with police, engineering or military experience might be able to answer:
Exactly how big a bang does 15 kilos of explosive produce? Represented perhaps in terms of size of hole in the ground, or damage to a solid object such as a house or wall? (Different *types* of explosive might do different degrees of damage - e.g. how does 15 kilos of dynamite compare to 15 kilos of gelignite compare to 15 kilos of 'plastive explosive', compare to 15 kilos of TNT, etc.?)
Of course, in the article in question, the 'explosive' is not identified, which makes the question more difficult of answering.
But I must confess to total ignorance of the subject, even though my father used to use gelignite (that was what I think it was) to blow up enormous old tree stumps out in the paddock.
15Kilos = 33.06lbs
I found this description about the force of C-4 (a fairly common high explosive).
C-4 has a explosive force 1.34 time that of trinitrotoluene - TNT - and can produce a pressure wave traveling at 8,040 meters per second. The explosive reaction takes place in two stages. The first explosion creates a low-pressure wave in the surrounding area, although producing most of the damage. As the gas expands rapidly in the surrounding area, it creates a temporary vacuum in the middle which determines a high-pressure implosion.
The biggest advantage of C-4 except for being highly stable, is that its malleability enables it to be molded basically in any shape, may be pressed in gaps, cracks or inserted in any type of case.
I did not do the math (not quite sure how to) but this about of explosive could level a whole block of two story building if placed correctly. I would guess if it were set off in one ball it would easly create a crater ten+ yards in diameter and half that deep along with blowing killing anyone within 50 to 100 ft of the blast.
Just my thoughts.
Learning: As Sencit correctly noted, I was being sarcastic. But, upon re-reading my post, I see that wasn't entirely obvious. It is true, some people do hold such inane opinions as those I attempted to ridicule, and they do, indeed, post them on the internet. Sorry for the confusion I may have caused you.
al-Kidya;
Thanks for relaying your story and your understandable fears. What bothers me is that there is no checking of backparks and other bags on the Toronto subway. It is a disaster waiting to happen.