One would have thought that the Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims would rise up and not allow Saeed to preach. But once again, no such luck. Tiny Minority of Extremists Alert: "'Mastermind' of Mumbai attack preaches at mosque in Lahore," by Zahid Hussain in The Times, November 21 (thanks to Kris):
Come Friday prayers in Lahore, it is not hard to find the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai attacks.Hafiz Mohammed Saeed is neither in hiding nor in jail. The founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba is instead delivering a sermon to thousands of devoteees at the Jamia al-Qadsia mosque -- one of the biggest in the city.
"God has promised to make Muslims a superpower if we follow the right path," Mr Saeed told his followers, who listened in rapt silence.
Outside, policemen with machineguns stood guard and bearded security men frisked all those entering. "Our rulers are the slave of America and have sold their conscience for a few dollars," continued the diminutive former university teacher, his long beard dyed red with henna.
In imitation of Muhammad.
Timothy Roemer, the US Ambassador in Delhi, backed Indian calls this week for Pakistan to bring Mr Saeed and six other Mumbai suspects to justice. "We need to see actions and results from Pakistan," he said after India handed Pakistan a seventh dossier of evidence on the Mumbai attacks.Analysts say that the problem lies with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, which backed Mr Saeed when he founded Lashkar-e-Taiba in 1990 to fight Indian rule in the disputed region of Kashmir. Under pressure from the US, Pakistan banned the group in 2002, but it continued to operate under the banner of Jamaat-ud Dawa, which Mr Saeed also founded and calls a charity organisation....
Whoever thinks Pakistan is an ally of the US has to be mentally retarded.
Their number one hero is Khan, the man who with full support of the pakistani government is responsible for the greatest proliferation of nuclear weapons the World has ever seen. History will show how this crime led to the nuclear apocalypse which is approaching us ever so rapidly. He accomplished this after stealing nuke know how from the Europeans and wasted no time in quickly disseminating the technology exclusively to America's enemies, iran, lybia etc.
Why our leaders have not yet treated this as an act of war
leads me to question not only their intellect but also their sanity.
If I organized the murder of 160 Pakistanis, do you think the American government would be so kind as not to extradite me? Would a federal court find that there aren't sufficient charges to arrest me?
No. I'd quickly find myself at the end of a hangman's noose in Islamabad.
Yet Pakistan doesn't have to cough up this wretch to India?! And our own ambassador meekly says, Ho-hum, we agree that Pakistan should release him, we suppose.
My only surprise is that he's not been invited to speak at Columbia or Georgetown.
Right on, eboni--Hafiz Mohammed Saeed can speak freely but Geert Wilders can't. What a world we live in.
I think it is worth mentioning, although most here already know, that the Chabad House in Mumbai that was destroyed in the attacks, in the building that housed a Rabbi and his wife, and guests, who were mercilessly murdered execution style, as well as practically everyone in residence was an important target for the attackers.
According to Wickepedia: "Chabad houses are where the Shliach and Shlucha (Rabbi and his wife) host programs, activities, and/or services for the local Jewish community and tourists. These centers exist today around the world, and serve as a Jewish community center that provides educational and outreach activities serving the needs of the entire Jewish community, regardless of degree of observance."
The same was true in Mumbai. The Rabbi and his wife, and all the rest of the dead and injured, G-d bless their souls, were beloved by all in the community, Jewish and Hindi. The savage Saeed we are discussing made sure that the Chabad House was a priority to be attacked and everyone in it killed. Those were direct orders. The time has come to fight back against this hateful cancer in our midst.
tHE WORLD CANNOT survive with Islam creeping along. The quran has Satan the Allah of Islam bragging that he is the greatest liar, deceiver, schemer in quran 3:54. He bragged and made Muhammad his Messiah and prophet as the bible said after Jesus no more prophets were needed. Revelation 12:9 says Satan the DEVil is the deceiver of the whole world and allah hated women as Satan was kicked out of heaven and he blamed Eve for that. He made the life of a woman miserable, as we can see in Islam. Allah said he made women stupid tabari 1:280 and made them accept being beaten, sexed, stoned, killed, whipped for allah. That is stupid as the reason most are beaten is what they did or didnt do for a man. Is man allah?
We must stop this virus. Acquired Islamic Death Syndrone or Aids.
Onwatch--what makes it even sadder is that the Muslim American co-conspirator in the Mumbai attacks--David Headley--posed as a Jew and visited the chabad house in Mumbai as part of his stakeout prior to the attacks. Headley probably received hospitality from the very same rabbi that Headley helped kill.
We extend these people a hand, offering food, education, etc, and they repay us by killing, stealing, and destroying.
One would have thought that the Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims would rise up and not allow Saeed to preach. But once again, no such luck.
That leads to but one conclusion: there are NO "Peaceful Muslims". Either you believe in jihad or you're not a Muslim.
"Our rulers are the slave of America and have sold their conscience for a few dollars," continued the diminutive former university teacher, his long beard dyed red with henna.
In imitation of Muhammad.
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Yep—and this wasn't just a slavish fashion trend, either. An older Muslim dyes his beard with henna to look vigorous and intimidating when going on Jihad.
How much of a "mastermind" must one be to send a bunch of thugs with machine guns (or whatever the exact type of weaponry) into busy public areas, aim, and open fire? It does not take much cleverness to plan such attacks. Those jihadists were prepared for what they did through their life-long programming of being taught to hate the infidels more than anything else. Without that pre-programming, the pre-set goals, ideology, and motivation, no amount of planning would have motivated those men to do what they did.
Coming up with such crude means to kill is not so much clever as it is (to non-Muslims) an unexpected evil. Non-Muslims going about their business do not expect that Muslims with machine guns are going to pop out from around the corner and start shooting. What's remarkable about the various jihad attacks is not that they are particularly clever (they are not especially clever), but rather that they are particularly evil. They are so evil, that most non-Muslims are unable or unwilling to imagine that some Muslims could intentionally target and slaughter dozens or even hundreds of non-Muslim women and children without having even a slight twinge of conscience. And that is possible, of course, because of the life-long programming that Muslims receive, beginning in early childhood, based on the Quran, Hadith, Sira, Islamic law, and Islamic history, that teaches them to regard non-Muslims as vile, lowest of the low, criminals, unclean, evil, worst of all creatures, "guilty," etc. There is always going to be a certain percentage of Muslims with whom this teaching really sticks and fits with their individual personality. Some will express it through violence, others will express it through other means, though most have the same motivation and goals, as provided by the unreformed core Islamic teachings.