Muslims at Fort Hood blame army command for jihad massacre

Speaking strictly from my experience, when a 'superior' "breaks a bone or two" while training, you thank them for the learning experience and move on.

Enough of the PC, BS - let's starting calling Spades Spades.

Take responsibility, iSlam is NOT a religion and it IS violent and deadly.

Jew Lover

The problem, friends, is not that we understand what is going on with the Muslim community at Ft. Hood. We most definitely do. The problem is, how do we convince the public that: a) Islam demands that infidels be either converted, enslaved, or killed; and, b) to that end, anything goes. None of the lying, sniveling, quivering PC jelly bowls inhabiting the halls of Congress are going to admit that. Their mantra is "diversity is great; diversity is our goal." Never mind that it may kill their grandchildren. O.K., but the, religion is sacrosanct and must be upheld. Muslims certainly agree, especially in respect to them. But, oh, by the way, Islam is NOT just a religion. In fact, Islam is only tangentially a religion. It is a "life construct" designed to perpetuate in power a theocracy and fellow travelers.

I just discovered that Jerry Pournelle has a web site. He weighs in on this with his customary sharp insights

http://jerrypournelle.com/view/2009/Q4/view595.html#treason

He's one of us. His other stories are worth checking out, too.

This is a bit off topic but today 8th November, is Rememberance Sunday in Britain and because of an "Afghan Policemans" Personal Jihad. We have 5 more British dead to commemorate this year.
My thoughts today will be with the families of all the people recently murdered by the cowardly muhammeds.

"But some of the men who had befriended Major Hasan at the mosque said the military should examine the policies that might have caused him to snap"

Hmmmm, perhaps having the audacity of having a policy where it's acceptable to go to war with Muslims?
Look - if you don't like the policies of an army then don't sign up for it....

Hell, I bet if (or when, depending how long President Osama is in power) the USA went to war with Israel their Muslim soldiers would volunteer for service!

Its a laugh innit. "But some of the men who had befriended Major Hasan at the mosque said the military should examine the policies that might have caused him to snap." Talk about blaming the victim(s). These are serving soldiers making these remarks it makes one wonder which one will "snap" next. If I was an American soldier serving alongside one of these commentators I would be looking over my shoulder and getting another Kuffar to guard my back.

Heed the Qur'an:
As the Qur'an says: "Take not the Jews and Christians as your friends...", which is excellent advice when applied to Muslim friends and allies.

More 'Snappers' in the military?

A Snapper is a Fish. A Jihadist is an Islamic Terrorist...

How long before they tell us that snappers got nothing to do with Islam.....?

http://sheikyermami.com/2009/11/08/a-snapper-is-a-fish-a-jihadist-is-an-islamic-terrorist/

can anyone answer this, if this Nidal Hasan joined the military and after so many years could he not just give his notice and quit? 9-11 was almost eight years ago and if he did not like the policies of the US gov't he could of just left the military.
and those those buddies of Nidal Hasan, you know who who said a white guy who goes killing in the post office its called going postal, well when a muslim becomes pious we call it sudden jihad symdrom. and ps this Nidal Hasan would be considered part of caucasian race, and besides islam is not a race but an ideololgy,

A Thank-you card from Bush/Kerry/Lugar/Hillary's trusted ally:
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/understanding-antiamericanism-909

Also, read the 'US Muslims Face BAcklash': http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/09-us-muslims-face-backlash--szh-03
.. and send a Thank-you card to your local CAIR chapter.

Ikeevy,

I don't know how many years he owed but Maj. Hasan owed them for the Army paying for his medical training. I used to be an Air Force wife and I married my high school sweetheart who had a yearning to be a pilot. Come freshman year of college he decided not to continue with ROTC like he had in high school and then changed his mind again junior year and rejoined. By that time all the pilot slots were taken and he knew that when he went on active duty he would have to do something else, which he did. He applied for pilot training a few years later and was able to go. This, if I recall correctly, added another seven years to the time before he could get out and possibly go fly for the airlines. He decided to stay in and retired as an Lt. Colonel but other guys we know got out way before then.

We had a friend who was willing to go to the boonies and be an instructor pilot but the powers at be decided to keep him and force him to work an office job
(when he wasn't flying) that had rotating shifts including regular graveyards shifts. He told us that he was trying to decide whether to stay in or not and that that assignment made his decision for him. He worked one more year and then got out and went to fly for the airlines. He would never even have thought of going into a squadron and shooting the place up. He had integrity and morals and his head on straight. He wasn't subject to the insanity of Islam. (Actually, he was a devout Polish Catholic. ; )

Jihad is an 'obligation' incumbent on all Mahoundians...Those who refuse die hypocrites...There are no hypocrites in Allah's Paradise...

Hasan is not a hypocrite...It's not his fault he's not, right now, savoring some virgins...Nope, a short, blond, female, kufr policewoman wrecked his plan with some non fatal lead injections...The virgins will now have to wait until Allah gets around to killing him some other way...

"G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it."

By extending this reasoning it would then be allah who is ultimately responsible for this act. A conclusion I agree with although I get there by a wholly different route.

"vibrant Muslim community"

Why has this word "vibrant" appeared not only in this, but in many other stories? Why has this become the epithet of choice for the "Muslim community"?

And now we see that, as after 9/11, just as soon as Muslims realize that the non-Muslims among whom they have come to live will not act as they feared -- not act as they know that Muslims would act, if a non-Muslim had murdered Muslims in a similar fashion, in a country where Muslims dominated -- they do not merely breath a sigh of relief, but immediately go on the offensive, immediately start daring to blame others, even in a case as black-and-white as this one, where the murderer in question, Nidal Malik Hasan, was a devout Muslim, had never hidden his views, could not possibly have "suffered from PTSD" as some ludicrously claim because he had never been to Iraq or Afghanistan, never endured battle, and far from being upset by the condition of the returning soldiers he saw at Walter Reed, was probably delighted at their suffering, for they were Infidels, and deserved it.

He did what he did as a Muslim following the texts of Islam. Many Muslims all over the Western world support the goals of Jihad; that is, the "struggle" to remove all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam. They do not wish - how can they, given what Islam inculcates? -- Infidels well, nor our legal and political institutions. A few, perhaps with secret reservations about Islam, would not wish to undo the legal and political institutions, of the societies of those who have so naively and generously allowed them to settle deep within. But a great many are perfectly willing to engage in deception, for as long as they can, about the doctrine and practice of Islam, prepared to attempt, however absurdly, to continue to explain away the behavior of Muslims, to hide or deny the contents of the texts, to rewrite the history of the world (vide the attempts to claim territories long associated with non-Muslim peoples, to deny the history of those peoples, and to put forth claims for Muslims being present, nunc-pro-tunc backdating: Muslims were with Columbus, Muslims settled in America, or England, in the eighth, or was it the ninth, centures -- and so on). No Pakistani will tell you about, or express an interest in, the history of pre-Islamic India, or recognize how, in what conditions, his own ancestors were forced to convert to Islam from Hinduism or Buddhism or Jainism. No "Palestinian" Arab will recognize the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, and an entire false history has been created not only denying that Jewish presence and the significance of what was created in Judea, but to replace the Jews with the "Palestinians" -- themselves a recent fiction created out of the local Arabs in order to re-package the Jihad against Israel, which is never-ending, with a "legitimate rights of the Palestinian people" business that, in the treacliness of its re-telling in the West, becomes "two tiny peoples, each struggling for its homeland" (and please don't look too closely at the twenty-two Arab states, or at the real history, demographic and cadastral, of Mandatory Palestine or of the area in the 19th century). If the Muslims in Western Europe grow in numbers, they will continue inexorably to make the historic heart of the West more unpleasant, more expensive, and more physically dangerous for the native non-Muslims and also for the non-Muslim immigrants who, unlike the Muslims, are not prevented from integrating or fitting in because they are not adherents of an ideology that separates all of humanity between the Muslims and the non-Muslims, the Believers and the Infidels.

"War is deception" and of course Muslims living in this country do not wish, and work furiously to prevent, the real apprehension of the texts, the tenets the attitudes, the atmospherics of Islam. A few hold out the hope of "reform" of Islam (and quite a few Bright Young Muslim Reformers have made out like gangbusters, receiving grants from Carnegie and other foundations, or positions and promotions, and tenure in universities, where the fix is in to "hire a Muslim" -- or where previously-hired Muslims push and push, so that now MESA, the Middle East Studies Association, which in 1970 was 7% Muslim, is now 70% Muslim, and the non-Muslims who are members are either eager sympathizers and collaborators with the Muslim worldview, or are very very quiet), and this impresses people who think that this is a plausible effort, and do not know why the Muslims should not be able to have their "reformation" (not knowing that they had a "reformation" of sorts, under Al-Wahhab, in 18th-century Arabia) as took place in Christianity, or why the effort to convince many Muslims to change their view, to not only jettison the Hadith and Sira (that "sola scriptura" Edip Yuksel and Mustafa Akyol keep talking blandly about), but also somehow to magically cease to regard the Qur'an as the immutable uncreated Word of God.

Magdi Allam, the brilliant apostate who live and works and, thank god, influences so many in Italy, started his path by trying to see, he tells us, if Islam could be reformed. The memories of his pious and humble parents kept him eager to keep finding a way to defend Islam, to retain Islam. But he just couldn't do it. He finally came to understand that Islam could not be reformed, and that his love for his parents was merely confusing, for his parents, he realized, had been largely easygoing, unobsevant in many ways, and certainly not people who took the texts of Islam to heart -- dangerously to heart. The less truly Muslim a Muslim was, he realized, the better. We see a tacit recognition of that in the use of the word "moderate" to modify "Muslim." If what we seek are "moderate Muslims" then we unwittingly recognize that the full-fledged non-moderate Muslim is a danger. Yet we continue to hear people who use the phrase "moderate Muslim" but would be afraid to openly recognize the meaning of what they are saying.

There are real problems, that are unavoidable, and that are not susceptible of "solution" but, if measures are taken in time, can be prevented from becoming far far worse, perhaps fatal. Many in the Western world recognize that global warming is such a problem, and they reocgnize that there is no "solution" but there are ways to ameliorate things, if action is taken swiftly. The same applies to Islam, and its adherents. If, calmly, we proceed to investigate, in large numbers, the doctrine of Islam, the effect of Islam, the different ways in which Jihad can be promoted that may not be recognized as such, if we understand that the constant attempts to deflect attention, to confuse us, to pretend that the Qur'an and Hadith and Sira do not say what they clearly do say (how many times have we heard some Muslim cleric, in the West, deny that something is in the Qur'an is clearly there, or deny that Aisha was six years old when Muhammad was "betrothed" to her, and nine when he consummated his "marriage" to her, or deny or pretend not to know about Asma bint Marwan, or to re-write the facts of the Khaybar Oasis attack, or of the mass killing of the prisoners of the Banu Qurayza? And how often do we find that in Muslim countries, there is no inhibition about recognizing, forthrightly, what the Qur'an, Hadith,and Sira say, by the so-called "extremist" clerics who, let it be said a thousand times, have the texts on their side).

We are now going through the latest edition of the comedy. The nest of ninnies in the press, on the radio, and on television, who have done their level best to prate about the "stress of war" (the "stress of war" was felt by the returnhing wounded Nidal Malik Hasan treated, and so badly, at Walter Reed, not by Nidal Malik Hasan). The only "stress of war" that Nidal Malik Hasan felt was that of the 78 military campaigns, 77 of them offensive, in which Muhammad took place -- military campaigns in the Hijaz, in Arabia, nearly 1400 years ago. That was the "stress of war" that he, Nidal Malik Hasan, felt so keenly.

He did what he did because he took Islam seriously, and he was unwilling, unlike so many other Muslims, to lie quietly low and to engage in Jihad through other means, while of course quietly cheering on, in the privacy of one's family, or one's mosque, the exploits of the "brothers' who were attacking, at the World Trade Center, or in London or Madrid or Mumbia or slitting Infidel throats of nuns and monks in Algeria, or Somalia, or killing Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh, or killing Buddhists in southern Thailand, or Christian farmers in the southern Philippines, or black African Christians in the southern Sudan (some 2 million dead, over the past 20 years, with little or no effective response from anyone in the Western world, and with the mass-murdering beginning again, and now extended to Muslims in Darfur, but non-Arab black African Musolims and hence perfectly acceptable targets to the Arabs), in thousands of other attacks, with sm"moderate Muslim" , returning to the pure faith).
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Meanwhile, we are expected to endure, again and again, the nonsense as before. We are expected to listen politely when the brother of this mass-murderer tells us, with the usual insulting irrelevance, that his brother was "nice" and "quiet" and so on.

And then we are expected to endure this, from someone who converted to Islam -- and the converts do not have the excuse that through no fault of their own they were simply born into Islam, and perhaps have had that Islam modified by nuance, by time, by a studied unobservance that limits the Islam to the mere rituals, the Five Pillars, and nothing more. That convert, one Victor Benjamin who converted in Iraq, after he saw the economic backwardness, the corruption and despotism, the violence and aggression, of Muslim societies up close, and then converted to Islam, says this:

"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad."

Of course this is nonsense. The "white guy" who "shoots up a post office" is doing so because he is prompted by his own wretchedness that has caused him to descend into madness. There are always cases, everywhere, of those who become unhinged for individual reasons. But the man who shoots up the post office -- white or black -- or for that matter the man who, having lost his job, goes back to kill the boss or co-workers, does not have a coherent, stable ideology to justify what he does, an ideology that is even now being acted on by millions of people all over the world, in similar fashion, and that is supported, in the main, by many hundreds of millions of others.

In fact, if some discharged worker, a Muslim, simply "went postal" -- that is, killed people with whom he had worked, had no signs, so evident in the case of Nidal Malik Hasan, that he was prompted by Islam, did not shout Allahu Akbar, did not have a history of writing to websites declaring his admiration for those who killed Infidels, in short was acting not as a Muslim following what Islam inculcated but, rather, as an individual with an individual grievance.

Nidal Malik Hasan took his Islam seriously. And while many Muslims do so, in the West most have, for prudential reasons, and especially in this country, where the power of the circumambient non-Muslims, and the unwillingness to behave in the fashion of dhimmis is far less developed than in the countries of Western Europe, for prudential reasons, out of obvious calculation, most Muslims do not behave nearly as aggressively as they do in Western Europe, and nothing like how they behave in countries where they dominate, and can treat non-Muslims as they wish. No, here the situation, for now, is different,and we must make sure that the situation, forever, stays different. If for prudential reasons smiles and wiles and guile are the order of the day, rather than Nidal Malik Hasan's way -- his "madness" consisted only in this, that not only taking Islam seriouslly, he was prepared to act on it, he was uprepared to hide his views, as other Muslims have.

Now back to that little remark by Victor Benjamin, the convert to Islam who is part of the "vibrant Muslim community" close to Fort Hood, in the grimly-named Killeen, Texas. He wants you to believe that Nidal Malik Hasan is just like "a white guy" who "goes postal." Now he might have, in other circumstances, been so. Had he not been such an avid reader of the Qur'an, had he not expressed his complete hatred for the American intervention against what he, Nidal Malik Hasan, regarded as his true and only people, that is fellow Muslims, in this case the Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that he was unwilling to see that the Americans were, at enormous expense, actually trying to help establish semi-decent regimes (an effort which will fail, because those same Americans do not recognize the effects of Islam, on why it is Islam that explains the unavoidable political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of Muslim societies, and only in a few places -- such as Turkey, because of Ataturk's systematic constraints on Islam, and to a much lesser extent Tunisia, because of the police-state secularism of Ben Ali and before him Bourguiba, and in one or two of the Central Asian stans, especially the great success-story Kazakhstan -- has Islam been constrained so that a secular class has thereby allowed been allowed not only to be created but to flourish -- has in some areas been able to create conditions less retrograde, where some forms of intellectual and economic and political development have been possible.

It is grotesque for Victor Benjamin to pretend that this mass-murder, the murderer suffused with, oozing with, Islam -- which he did not hide -- as merely akin to someone "going postal."

Now if Nidal Malik Hasan had never shown much interest in Islam, had he not been clutching his Qur'an figuratively and literally, much of the time, had he been discharged from a job, a job he desperately needed, and then returned to fire on those he had worked with, then, and only then, might Victor Benjamin have a teeny-tiny point. But far from being discharged by the Army, despite his terrible performance at Walter Reed (perhaps he was trying to be fired, trying once the army had paid for all of his medical training to get out of fulfilling his own side of the bargain), he was transferred to Fort Hood, and suffered no loss of rank or money. Nor was he ever shut up -- in fact, everyone allowed him to make the most outrageous statements, statements that during World War II would have been forthrightly regarded as treasonous, and he arrested and tried for such treasonous sentiments. What soldier could have, at any army base, started to spout pro-Nazi sentiments, perhaps clutching Mein Kampf, during World War II, and have been kept on, and kept on, and remained immune to prosecution?

It is nonsense, and Victor Benjamin knows this perfectly, to liken this case to that of a discharged employee. It is much more like the murders carried out by Muslims in London, Madrid, New York, Mumbai, save that Major Nidal Hasan Malik acted alone (whether another Muslim visited him the night before, and served as his "spiritual advisor" on this, is another matter). Or like the individual Muslims who have fired on and killed people -- the Egyptian at the El Al counter at L.A. airport, the man who fired on a bus full of Yeshiva students in New York, killing one, the Muslims who killed a rabbi in Canada, and so on, probably selecting mainly Jews as targets on the theory that that would be less dangerous in countries still een as "Christian" (parts of an undifferentiated anachonistic Frangistan. that is "Lands of the Franks").

Nidal Malik Hasan was not only not discharged, but was trusted, apparently, by a far-too-trusting, or perhaps better, an army brass far too fearful of appearing not trusting, to do a thing about him, and he was scheduled for deployment, like any soldier, to Afghanistan or Iraq. This could not have come as a surprise. Nor was he being asked to serve in a combat unit, where he might have to fire on "fellow Muslims," his only true brothers. He was asked only to serve as a psychiatrist. Perhaps, indeed, in the army there were fond hopes that as a native speaker of Arabic, and as a Muslim, Nidal Malik Hasan would have special insight, be particularly helpful should the other soldiers need mini-courses in "cultural-awareness" so as better to understand, and better able to be solicitous, of the Muslims and their "sensitiviities."

Oh, the members of the American military got a course in Muslim "sensitivities" from Major Nidal Hasan Malik alright. He showed them what a Muslim who takes his Islam seriously, and is not willing patiently to practice "war is deception" but wants something a little more direct, thinks of Infidels. No need to be disabused, as so many of our soldiers have been disabused of their hopes and dreams and naive faith in the Muslims of Iraq and
Afghanistan, including their supposed comrades-in-arms whom they paid, and trained, and worked and worked and worked beside, only to see, in the end, how much was wasted, how dangerous and treacherous were even the supposedly most loyal of these Muslim "allies."

Yes, Major Nidal Malik Hasan offered the other day, not only to all the non-Muslim members of the American military, but also to all of the civilians who remain nwilling to heed those intent on explaining away what is or by this point should be the obvious. It wasn't a very long course. It lasted all of four minutes.

But it was most instructive.

I blame the army command for what happened at Fort Hood because of their failure to get rid of this guy while he was still at Walter Reed. How many times did he have to be disciplined?
Okay we paid for his medical care. Were thirteen deaths and three dozen injuries worth keeping him in the army? Is diversity for its own sake really a good thing? He should have been given a less than honorable discharge and turned loose. He wasn't army material. We paid for a lemon. Our brave men and women shouldn't have had to pay for it with their lives.

Correction: we paid for his medical education.

"Ultimately it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable," Mr. Benjamin said.

In a sense, Mr. Benjamin is right. The policies created and enforced by the chain of command, all the way from the White House (and not just its current occupant, but the last two or three administrations as well) and Congress through the Defense Dep't and on down the chain of command, created the situation where Nidal was in a position to carry out his actions. Sensible policies would never have allowed Nidal into the armed services in the first place, much less made him an officer or admitted him to the medical school, or promoted him. Sensible policies would have spotted the warning signs long before now, and would have weeded him out years ago. But instead, our PC insanity ruled, and this is the result.

to the question above as to why the muhammaden could not simply resign, as other officers in the military can do, is because in exchange for the education he received he was thereby obligated for X number of years in the Army. For instance, the former all-pro quarterback, Roger Staubuck (sp), could not begin his pro football career until he was 28 and had repaid his education at Annapolis..... Another question is why was the Army posting this muhammaden to a war theater?

"Another question is why was the Army posting this muhammaden to a war theater?"

Because he was a patriotic American citizen who loved his country (NOT!) And because some commander's ass would be grass if he said anything, ANYTHING, against a Muslim whiner.

CAIR HAS GOT TO GO. And we need to be the ones to get rid of it since we now see how badly it ties the hands of our soldiers and their commanders.

Not taking responsibility for what they do . stabbing people in the back, killing innocent people describe perfectly a devout Muslim.

I have a very hard time believing that this guy acted alone. He was always at the mosque . Someone must have been his confident.

A Muslim ¨Psychologist". Surely a definition too far.

I read through the comments thus far, and noticed no one picked up on one detail:

"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Who's "calling it jihad"? Nobody in the mainstream media (outside of Col. Peters on one or two shows wedged in like lettuce in a club sandwich of standard denial) has been "calling it jihad". And we know that those who haunt certain eccentric interstices of the Blogosophere, like us, don't count. So why does this Muslim assume "they" are "calling it jihad"?

In fact, I have noticed this strangely counter-factual assumption is common, routine among Muslims as well as among many of their PC MC/Leftist apologists. To explain the latter, we probably need go no further than to remember their addled state of mind. To explain the former, however, it is reasonable to suppose that it is part of the general strategy of deception among Muslims: In this particular instance, a bit of pre-emptive insurance -- sealing the cracks with taqiyya cement, as it were -- so that no significant mention of jihad does seep out into the mainstream.

More people need to study Islam's history and learn about Tamerlane and his sword of Islam etc. Tell them about Historyscoper's free new Quick History of Islam for History Ignoramuses site, it might save their lives.

http://go.to/islamhistory

Alert; reciting your BDS misapprehensions is as worthy an excuse for Hasan as what his coreligionists are offering.

You're boring whenever you cough up your BDS hairballs.

I just read "United in Hate" and this matches the long-standing tactic of rationalization:

"The Devil Made Him Do It"

I myself have gotten in trouble with my friends for labeling this "jihad". I'm not labeling it "jihad" just because he's a Muslim, but because of all the other evidence that has come in. But, I'm the bigoted one.

"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad."

Big difference: Hasan wasn't personally vengeful toward his victims but, given his devout Islamic and Koran quoting background with religious objections to the current mid-East wars, it's clear he was following sura 9:111 and similar. This is jihad, not "going postal". This is finally feeling guilty and fearful of hell-fire enough to go jihad.

Another case of sudden-jihad syndrome (SJS).

I think any devout "moderate" Muslim is capable of SJS and hence is ultimately dangerous, especially if a military officer. Unfortunately the military will be prohibited from recognizing SJS.

However, I do think the military is partly to blame for ignoring all the alarm bells associated with Maj. Hasan and I wouldn't blame the victim's survivors for suing the military for gross malfeasance at least under the Federal Tort Claims Act. Maybe if the military brass get worried enough by law suits it might take steps to prevent another SJS from being so costly. For instance, perhaps no large area on a base where men gather should be without some armed personnel - at least the officers armed. Or would that too much upset the Muslims?

Vibrant? Yeah, most rattlesnakes have vibrant tails to warn one of an impending strike (and a deadly bite, if one is standing too close).

The criticism about the incompetence of the military in this matter, by these Muslim colleagues of Traitor Hasan, is half right.

But not the half they mean.

P.C. about the terroristic ideology of orthodox Islam by our "leaders" caused this slaughter.

No believing Muslim can honestly serve in the U.S. military (the oath precludes it) or honestly be a U.S. citizen (the Constitution precludes it), since belief in Islam trumps allegiance to any secular, infidel organization or state.

These Muslims are the usual liars (or, at best, are conveniently deluding themselves) trotted out to spew disinformation to cover their own asses and obfuscate the tenets of the Koran, as has become a nauseating cliche after every terroristic attack.

The MSM eats it up like a dog lapping up vomit.

And the West sickens and weakens further, daily, as a result of this criminal negligence and suicidal derelection of duty by our governmental and media "elites" to study Islam's ideology.

"Ultimately it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable," Mr. Benjamin said. "G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it."

Well isn't that just the point? People are not passive inanimate "equipment".

Notice the construction:

"it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable"

Interesting.

A's doing, but B's responsibility.

... or possibly,

XYZ is true, but it's not.

Weird.

There are some really shorted out brain circuits involved.

Muslims fear backlash from tomorrow's train bombing..

But then what if Benjamin were on to something.

Maybe the armed forces needs an intensive investigation and probing of mohammedan enlistees -- to detect flaws in their so called "equipment".

Yeah, that would go over real well.

This is all crap.

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How many "WHITE GUYS" "shoot up post offices" compared to the killings perpetrated in the name of pigslam?

Invoking "white guys" as a negative is designed to a. push PC MC white guilt buttons and b. garner sympathy with Blacks and Hispanics.

They're trying to create an "US vs. THEM" situation where they become part of the larger "minority community", thus harnessing them for their ulterior goals.

WE don't have countries WE can go back to - THEY, the islamists, have 57 such countries.

I suggest they exercise that choice.

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"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Victor that sounds like a racist comment. Tell us Victor, how many white guys cut off heads and crucify infidels who disagrees with the Muslim religion? How many white guys strap bombs to themselves Victor and kill innocent women and children on a bus in the name of Allah? Tell me Victor, what other religion allows for the stoning to death of a women if she is said to be unfaithful to her husband. Tell me Victor, what other Religion other then the muslim religion believes its ok to kill a daughter if she happens to find faith in another religion. I could go on and on Victor, but I doubt Victor would ever answer me. Victor and his ilk have their heads too far up Allah's backside to know right from wrong. In their mind only the koran and Sharia law is allowed to exist. So they go on trying to persuade the crowd that what Major Hasan did was simply a reaction to being discriminated against. The real discrimination is from the liberal idiots that continue to cover for the likes of Major Hasan. Perhaps someone best keep a close watch on Victor. He could be the next one to go postal in the name of Allah.

Foxmuldar

Nothing new about Muslims being quick to blame someone else...it's never their fault.....even when it is...

Doesn't anyone have empathy for Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan? As a psychiatrist he listened for years to shocking horror stories returning with U.S. Veterans! Slowly but surely his condition deteriorated into PTSD. How long can a human being be exposed to such violence, terror and extreme societal injustice before he or she snaps?

Oh, I forgot to mention: The PTSD wasn't the result of what was happening to AMERICAN troops... {add your ending to sentence HERE} And all these years I thought dentists had the highest suicide rate of any profession...

Oh, poor, poor Muslims.
So useless, so completely and utterly futile.

What to do?

Oh, I know, says an advocate of the Religion-of-Comlete-and-utterly-Ridiculous: let's kill some infidels!

*Yay* yell the surrounding retards.

“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable,” Mr. Benjamin said. “G.I.’s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it.”

Sure enough, it didn't take long for non-Muslims ((?) "Brother Nidal" a reference to Islam or former brother-in arms?) to come to the defense of Islam to say that the military is to share the blame for the Ft. Hood shooting with Nidal and thereby totally ignored all the evidences that Islam has much to do with the shooting.

Mr. Benjamin, who worked as a private contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan after leaving the Army in 2000, said the military should have let Major Hassan resign. “They should take more consideration of the human beings in the uniform,” he said, “rather than simply say, ‘We invested our money in you and need to get our money’s worth.’ ”

There are two problems that I can see regarding this:

1. Anyone who benefited from a military scholarship could then engineer similar "stressful conflict" to avoid deployment or get out of their military bond after graduating.

2. Will the Muslim community accept the profiling of Muslims and be banned from the military because the Koran clearly teaches "Mr. Reasoner said. “In the Koran, you’re not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christian or others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against Muslims, you will go to hell.” "?

Still, Mr. Benjamin added, Major Hassan had overlooked an important, and peaceable, tenet of Islam. “We do have the right to retaliate,” he said, “but he who does not is twice blessed.”

Here Mr. Benjamin used the pronoun "We" to identify himself with Muslims to state that Muslims have the right to retaliate. Note that Mr. Benjamin is exonerating Major Nidal Hassan violence against his fellow comrades-in-arms by saying that he has a right to retaliate, only that he won't be as much blessed than if he refrained, still he will be blessed nevertheless. The fact that Muslims believes that they have a right to retaliate against anyone who offend the ummah speaks a lot already, that their allegiance is to Islam and the ummah and not to the country that they are citizens of.

He went to strip clubs and drank beer.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

"Ultimately it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable," Mr. Benjamin said. "G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it."

The most deleterious thing about this sort of logic here is it compares HUMAN BEINGS to MILITARY EQUIPMENT.Psychologically speaking, there are many things I could find seriously wrong with a person who looks at human beings as unconscious objects but I won't go there. Best to just inform people one can't rewire neurons as simple as they can faulty wires. No, I'ma afraid THE QURAN is in need of some long over do editing.

Gulf War Syndrome, also called Gulf War Illness, is a supposèd illness or set of illnesses which effects those who served during the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and to a certain extent those who have served in the War in Iraq which started in 2003. Keep in mind Hasan never saw any combat.

Symptoms:

The symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) are extremely broad and range from: fatigue, headaches, memory loss, muscle and joint pains, herpes, eczema, diarrhea, constipation, indigestion, and in some less common cases nerve and neurological problems, tumors, and birth defects.
A static definition for GWS really doesn't exist

Some even go as far as to say that GWS is sexually transmitted like AIDS, but this seems unlikely due to the isolation of suffers of GWS, it has not expanded beyond those in combat -- other than examples stated in the sourced book where herpes is a symptom of GWS, and since herpes is a virus, therefore GWS must be. It's important to note that one of the biggest cases in the book where herpes is a part of GWS, the suffer said "I don't understand all this medical stuff."

Fatigue, headaches, memory loss, muscle and joint pains, and indigestion, trouble going to the bathroom -- as in not at all or diarrhea, are problems which are consistent with aging, bad diet, and poor health which is common amongst most middle aged Americans, not just Gulf War Veterans.

Eczema is a disease of the skin and covers a broad range of skin conditions which often reoccur throughout a person's life. In general eczema has been on the rise in the latter half of the 20th century and the disease often peaks during infancy and is more common amongst females. Eczema can pass genetically through parents to their children, but it is not contagious and is similar to a regular allergic reaction and cannot originate from GWS.

Herpes seems to be one of the most misunderstood viruses in the world, so much so that many people I've known throughout my life didn't realize it was a virus at all. Some people think it's genetic, some people think it's the same thing as canker sore, and of course neither are true. I actually have a section on myths about herpes, take a look for more information. In short, however, herpes cannot be caused by GWS, because it's a virus and is not the result of chemical or toxic exposure. Read more about herpes in my health section.

So that really leaves the nerve and neurological problems, tumors, and birth defects as health problems that cannot simply be explained as extremely common amongst the population right off the bat, keep these in mind as we discuss further.

Potential Culprits:
There are numerous potential sources for the symptoms regarding GWS, and we'll discuss each one and its possibility.

Oil-well Fires:
During the Gulf War a lot of oil wells were set on fire by Iraqi troops and exposure to the smoke from the fire therein has potential health risks.Those who did help put out the fires have suffered from lung problems such as bronchitis and asthma. Most interestingly those who did fight the fires, but were not in combat, do not suffer from GWS symptoms.

Depleted Uranium:
This is by far the most popular theory. I have a whole section on Depleted Uranium, see that for more information. The most common assumption is that "uranium is used in nuclear bombs so therefore depleted uranium is radioactive." While it is radioactive, it's not any more radioactive than your glow in the dark remote control.
The real problem originates from the fact that depleted uranium is a poisonous metal, similar to mercury. Just like with mercury or arsenic, long term affects include kidney, liver, heart, and potentially neurological and reproductive damage, though the latter has only been proven in rats conclusively.

Chemical Weapons:
Much of the broad systems of GWS are similar to those caused by mustard gas, organophosphate, pesticides, and nerve gas. Importantly, more than 134,000 combat troops were exposed to these when an Iraqi weapon's depot was bombed in Khamisiya. Depleted Uranium seems like it could be the culprit, but the chemical weapons exposure is known to have affected a massive amount of troops, and we know that these weapons cause symptoms such as those of GWS and birth defects. Let's look a bit more into it.

Similar syndromes:
Similar syndromes to GWS have appeared since the dawn of industrial warfare. After the review of medical records of soldiers who fought in the American Civil War, there was evidence that 5% of each company of soldiers had a 51% increase of cardiac, gastrointestinal, and nerve problems. These are similar as well to the "shell shock" symptoms after the Great War and also post-traumatic stress disorder after the war in Viet Nam.

Conclusion:
In 2006 a report from the US Institute of Medicine stated that 30% of servicemen and women which served in the Gulf War, about 200,000, have suffered from one or more of the various symptoms of GWS, there is no symptom which is unique to suffers of GWS, thus proving that GWS is not a single illness.

The increase in birth defects is also not apparent. That is to say 7.45% of veterans from the Persian Gulf had children with birth defects in contrast with 7.59% of veterans not deployed at all -- so there were actually fewer birth defects amongst them.

Almost certainly use of depleted uranium as well as exposure to many other chemicals during the Persian Gulf War has caused some health problems in combat veterans, but not much more than the average health problems for middle aged (and older) Americans.

Gulf War Syndrome has become a catch-all disease amongst veterans from common to very serious illnesses. The simple fact is, GWS as a general syndrome has symptoms far too broad to be a single sickness or disease, and is likely many unrelated illnesses being grouped together because in some cases they seem so much more common in Persian Gulf War combat veterans - but in most cases they aren't.

So, is there something happening within combat veterans from Iraq? Yes, but it's not nearly as common as claimed and the evidence is that many different illnesses have effected vets for many different reasons, rather than some catch all disease. Current numbers put GWS suffers at 30% of all combat veterans, but based on all of the statistics above, I would guess the low to be 2% and the highest to be 10%, with my official opinion being some where in the middle.

I believe that chemical weapons exposure, more than anything else, is likely the cause for the neurological and cancer systems related to suffers of GWS.

Thus, how could any logical person conclude Major Hasan a man who never saw combat nor was ever exposed to anything I mentioned above suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder? They can't unless they are the illogical MSM and CAIR.