Hamas-linked unindicted co-conspirator CAIR is shedding crocodile tears and issuing condemnations of the Fort Hood jihad that contradict years of its opposition to all anti-terror measures and all anti-jihadists. Some Muslims, however, are not so clever. (Thanks to Axel.)
Muslim at Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, Texas: "I honestly have no pity" for victims of the Fort Hood jihad
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"Most people will be shocked and then later go on with their day..."
Want to bet? I'll be passing this around to anyone I know convinced of islam's peaceful message.
things need to change soon before citizens feel that they have to take matters into their own hands.
the comments like this of one who considers himself to be within the "worldwide nation" which the brothers are actively forming because they think it is right to do so, such comments should not be shocking but EXPECTED.
this is the attitude of an Islamic Supremicist, who is just a tad away from being an active jihaddi in our land. of course, he sounded a bit young. (just the right age to strap on a belt and bomb away.)
perhaps if he read more of the Koran he might be persuaded that the guidance given leads to destruction, especially for one who wouldn't think for himself about the killings. but then, many are reading this guidance and come up with the same viewpoint.
we really gotta think about what's going on, or, down at the local mosque.
Boo!
They're here.
"things need to change soon before citizens feel that they have to take matters into their own hands."
If the powers that be do not seek to control or "change things", then the people have the right to protect themselves. I think of it as having a crack dealer move in down the street. Will it be tolerated it with the predictable results or will it be "changed".
At his own blog, Al-Awlaki, the imam at the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia (attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers and, during the same period, by Nidal Hasan Malik) posted an unambiguous endorsement of Nidal Hasan Malik's mass-murdering. That endorsement has now been removed from the site, no doubt because Al-Awlaki was far too candid in what he said. But unfortunately for him, the full text (written in English - Al-Awlaki lived for decades in America) had already been noticed, and saved.
And here it is:
"Nidal Hassan is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people. This is a contradiction that many Muslims brush aside and just pretend that it doesn’t exist. Any decent Muslim cannot live, understanding properly his duties towards his Creator and his fellow Muslims, and yet serve as a US soldier. The US is leading the war against terrorism which in reality is a war against Islam. Its army is directly invading two Muslim countries and indirectly occupying the rest through its stooges.
Nidal opened fire on soldiers who were on their way to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. How can there be any dispute about the virtue of what he has done? In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the US army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.
The heroic act of brother Nidal also shows the dilemma of the Muslim American community. Increasingly they are being cornered into taking stances that would either make them betray Islam or betray their nation. Many amongst them are choosing the former. The Muslim organizations in America came out in a pitiful chorus condemning Nidal’s operation.
The fact that fighting against the US army is an Islamic duty today cannot be disputed. No scholar with a grain of Islamic knowledge can defy the clear cut proofs that Muslims today have the right -rather the duty- to fight against American tyranny. Nidal has killed soldiers who were about to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan in order to kill Muslims. The American Muslims who condemned his actions have committed treason against the Muslim Ummah and have fallen into hypocrisy.
Allah(swt) says: Give tidings to the hypocrites that there is for them a painful punishment –
Those who take disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do they seek with them honor [through power]? But indeed, honor belongs to Allah entirely. (al-Nisa 136-137)
The inconsistency of being a Muslim today and living in America and the West in general reveals the wisdom behind the opinions that call for migration from the West. It is becoming more and more difficult to hold on to Islam in an environment that is becoming more hostile towards Muslims.
May Allah grant our brother Nidal patience, perseverance and steadfastness and we ask Allah to accept from him his great heroic act. Ameen
The BBC reporter said (of "Duane's" lack of pity) that this was the minority view and most expressed shock.
So what? One can be shocked and still support it.
Did they assert that what Hasan did was wrong?
Did they applaud the civilian officer who stopped Hasan?
I doubt it.
"Muslim at Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, Texas: "I honestly have no pity" for victims of the Fort Hood jihad"
I'm not feeling too warm and fuzzy about him.
I'm listening to Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh does not quite have it right. He's been blaming a radical preacher for Hasan's murderous rampage. Drawing a parallel to Reverend Wright and Obama, Limbaugh says Hasan listened to a radical Muslim preach which is little doubt true but misses the important point. I wonder why Limbaugh and others don't invite a scholar on Islam like R. Spencer or some other scholar for an interview. I suppose they'd rather continue in their ignorance of the true motive(s) behind this and other murderous rampages.
OT...
Hasan was a good tipper at the strip club though
"I just can't believe that he's the one who killed all those people. You know, he tipped every girl as she came off the stage after her dance. He was a really good tipper."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html
you know they will spin this as he was not a true Muslimthen
98:6 of the Qur'an states that we kuffars are the vilest of created beings. Woof!
Hugh, here's a cache'd link to the main page where the words can be accessed.
I hope it works.
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:e5FOVk1EmG0J:www.anwar-alawlaki.com/+anwar+al-awlaki&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Duane is probabaly not a high risk to commit backlash.
The BBC hasn't found any racist soccer moms or devious zionist plots??
Let's not forget the terrorist attack by John Allen Mohammed (the belt way sniper) in 2002 that left 10 Americans dead. Both these any many more thwarted attacks by Islamists in this country.
Michelle Malkin has a good piece on this 2 peas in a pod article here: After all it will happen again and again!
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/09/the-beltway-snipers-and-the-fort-hood-killer-peas-in-a-jihad-inspired-pod
Hmm - this guy needs to be taken aside and given a lesson in remedial taqqyya.
Hmm - this guy needs to be taken aside and given a lesson in remedial taqqyya.
His name is Duane Reasoner Jr, and apparently this guy is a recent convert, so I guess he hasn't had Lying to the Kuffar 101 yet. What I find most appalling about this maggot is that his parents work on the base, so basically, he is condoning attacks which targeted his parents.
This was NOT a jihad. It was MURDER !!!!!!! why are you giving this puke relgious status?
Hopefully he's going to rot in hell without any virgins and no mana from heaven. He took the military for a ride for an education and then tried to find a way out without paying back the thousands it took to educate him, and when that didn't work he took the cowards way.
Learning - Jihad *is* (in part) religiously-sanctioned-and-commanded murder. French sociologist Jacques Ellul gave it as his considered judgement that jihad was an 'institution' in Islam; part of the normal functioning of any Islamic society.
Here is Ibn Ishaq, in his canonical biography of Mohammed, the Sira (as translated by one A. Guillaume): “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”
Now, some 1200 years after Ibn Ishaq's Sira was put together, we find a very telling record of the USA's first encounter with Islam, namely, the Ambassador of Tripoli (that is, representing one of the Barbary States) as given in the Papers of Thomas Jefferson:
On page 358 in volume 9 of the Boyd edition, then, we find the following account:
“American Commissioners to John Jay” - March 28th. 1786
'We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their {i.e. the Muslim Barbary pirates'} pretentions to make war upon Nations who had done them no Injury,
'and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation.
'The Ambassador answered us
'that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran,
'that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners,
'that it was their {i.e. the Muslims'} right and duty to make war upon them {i.e. those who had not submitted to Islam or to Islamic rule} wherever they could be found,
'and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners,
'and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."
[The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, in 34 volumes (and still incomplete), Julian P. Boyd, Editor, Princeton, NJ, Princeton University Press, 1954, Vol 9, p. 358].
And going back a bit, here is Marco Polo in the Middle Ages, observing:
"The Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.
'The law which their prophet Mohamet [Muhammad] has given them lays down that any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all..
'And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs.
' For this reason they would be great wrongdoers, if it were not for the government. And all the other Muslims in the world act on the same principle."
The Travels of Marco Polo [Penguine Books 1958], pp 57-58.
And here are the observations of that Renaissance thinker, Michel de Montaigne:
"The Assassins, a people dependent on Phoenicia, are considered among Mohammedans as being of supreme devoutness and purity of morals.
"They hold that the most certain way to deserve Paradise is to kill someone of a different religion."
Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) - in Chapters 12 (Apology for Raymond Sebond) p. 384, in "The Complete Essays of Montaigne" translated by Donald M. Frame, Stanford University Press, 1958.
Marco Polo would not have been surprised by what Hasan did.
Abu Allah,
That Duane Reasoner is the same one in a recent NYT article titled 'Muslims at Fort Voice Outrage and Ask Questions'.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/us/07muslim.html?_r=1
"Duane Reasoner Jr., an 18-year-old substitute teacher whose parents worked at Fort Hood, said Major Hassan was told he would be sent to Afghanistan on Nov. 28, and he did not like it.
“He said he should quit the Army,” Mr. Reasoner said. “In the Koran, you’re not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christian or others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against Muslims, you will go to hell.”
I hope that old saying 'Our children are our future' is not true in this case.
I wonder where he's teaching and if it's filthy little kuffar kids he's entrusted with, and what his parents think of all this.
www.veteranoutrage.com
This is exactly why i will never ever trust any
muslim or arab..
Im sorry but they are telling all who will listen loud and clear ...
Hey if its a muslim killing an american
I am happy , i wont condemn him for he is my brother.
If its a muslim raping a western woman - hey they deserve it for not wearing a burka..
www.veteranoutrage.com
I put this video on my site too robert..
It needs to be shown..
I know all muslims arent evil - but im sorry 99.8 % of all terrorist attacks worldwide since 9.11 have been committed by msulims..
it isnt my religion to clean up..
its islams fault..
Why doesn't the U.S. Army do its real job and round up and transport as many Muslims as possible back to their home countries, with free $1000 credit cards as bait? :)
http://go.to/islamhistory
PRCS, here is a picture:
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/11/07/us/07muslim_CA1.html
Here is an picture of Reasoner:
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/11/07/us/07muslim_CA1.html