CAIR's Ibrahim "Honest Ibe" Hooper must be fuming at Abdul-Rashid Abdullah. As I explained here, he needs hate crimes. But the greasy Islamophobes aren't obliging.
"Muslim Veterans Group Says No Reports of Harassment of Islamic Soldiers," by Joshua Rhett Miller for FoxNews, November 6 (thanks to Axel):
A Muslim veteran affairs organization says it has not received reports of harassment from Islamic soldiers, contrary to claims by a relative of the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.Abdul-Rashid Abdullah, deputy director of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, told FoxNews.com that the nonprofit group has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed "simply because he was Muslim."
"That kind of report is inconsistent with what we've heard," Abdullah said prior to a press conference in Washington to denounce Thursday's shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, that left 13 dead and 30 wounded. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old Army psychiatrist who was reportedly due to be deployed later this month, is accused in the mass shooting.
Abdullah said his organization, which condemned the "unspeakable" attack, serves "several thousand" Muslim soldiers....
Thank God for an honorable Abdullah.
From above...Thank God for an honorable Abdullah.
Yep, they are a rare breed...You won't find one honest Abdullah posting on JW...
From above...Thank God for an honorable Abdullah.
Yep, they are a rare breed...You won't find one honest Abdullah posting on JW...
"C'mon people, give the muslims a break!" says the president.
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Friday the entire nation is grieving for those slain at Fort Hood, and he urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officers investigate the shootings.
Obama met Friday morning with FBI Director Robert Mueller and other federal leaders to get an update on what they've learned. Thirteen people were killed and 30 others injured in the shooting rampage at the Texas Army post on Thursday. The suspected shooter is an Army psychiatrist; his motive remains unclear.
"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.
You said it Mary Louise.
Let me just add, Duh!! American military members are some of the nicest, most polite people you'll ever meet. They don't abuse fellow service members because a) it does not contribute to unit cohesion and b) they would get in big trouble for it and it could ruin their career. I know that for a fact because I'm a USAF pilot's former wife.
I propose that Nidal Malik Hasan was a conflicted homosexual who undertook jihad to expiate his sin and gain grace with Allah in preparation for his attempt to enter Heaven.
Cases in point:
1. His profile: 39 year old, single, never married, childless "pious" Muslim male of Arab/Palestinian/Jordanian ancestry. Within a modern American cultural context, that wouldn't be too out of the ordinary, or at least most modern Americans wouldn't give much thought to a childless, unmarried 39-year old male. From a Muslim perspective, however, that status would be highly unusual and considered rather freakish. The pressure in Arab/Muslim communities is so great to get married - and the institutions to arrange marriages so well developed - that it is extremely bizarre for this guy to be childless, unmarried and 39 years old. This might be the case because:
A. He was for all intents and purposes an American, in terms of citizenship, culture and psychology. He was born and raised in the US after all so it would have been nearly impossible to totally divorce himself from the American culture he grew up in. Therefore getting through his 30s without being married or with children is totally possible from an American perspective. Either he did this because he was heterosexual and just wasn't into marriage, or didn't like the concept of children, or didn't get along well with women, didn't want to be tied down, or whatever. This issue is quite common with many heterosexual American men and could technically be disregarded.
B. What I think is much more likely, from a perspective which takes Islam into account, is that he had sexuality issues which were never surmounted during his life. According to reports, Nidal Malik Hasan was "pious" which on one hand meant that he should have been married and had children by now, but on the other hand he may have fundamentally not liked women, sexually, socially or otherwise. As a "pious" Muslim with advanced degrees and a good job, he would have been a very attractive catch, either for other pious American Muslim women or for an arranged marriage with a migrant woman from the Arab/Islamic world. Being married could have been taken care of in less than 30 minutes with a burqa wearing Islamic bride if he really wanted it. But he didn't, and that is very odd, hence my assertion that the guy probably was a homosexual, or at least had homosexual tendencies that he wasn't able to reconcile.
2. As you might know, sodomy and Islam officially don't mix. (Do they officially mix in any religion??) So if the guy was in fact homosexual, either in thought or deed, then this would have created a serious conflict within him. An interesting point about Islam and homosexuality:
A. While "sodomy" is banned in Islam and is considered one of the highest crimes, Islam requires four male witnesses to secure a conviction, therefore by default Islam often promotes homosexuality because of the this high number of witnesses required for a conviction of sodomy - and more importantly - the total gender segregation in Islamic societies which ultimately forces boys/men to have sex with other boys/men since women are simply unavailable (which is also the case in prison when women aren't available, i.e. the establishment of Islam is like forcing everyone to live in jail).
B. As an Islamic legal technicality, as long as you don't have four witnesses for a sex act, then you'll never officially get into trouble with Islamic authorities for the crime of sodomy, so many Muslim men participate in it because they have no access to women. Of course, Islamic authorities don't run America so this technically is a non-issue in this case; but this forced homosexuality does manifest itself VERY OFTEN within Islam-dominated cultures. I.e. guys are gay until they get married then they revert to heterosexual behavior, much like ancient Greece.
3. Important background information about getting into heaven in Islam:
A. Unlike Christianity, getting into heaven in Islam is not allowed because of one's faith in God or one's faith in the messenger Muhammad, but rather, because when you die you go up to heaven and the angels tally your good deeds and your bad deeds, and as long as your good deeds are just slightly higher than your bad deeds, then you get let in.
B. Merits and demerits are tracked by these angels in Islamic heaven almost as if the Muslim in question is living in a game show: Do one bad thing and you get X demerit points and do one good thing and you get Y merit points. I personally refer to this system of Islamic heaven deed tracking as "Islamic Religious Points".
C. Therefore, the ultimate goal of a Muslim is not necessarily to be completely good or completely bad, but rather, just to make sure that he has the highest number of Islamic Religious Points by the end of his life in order to increase the chances that he'll get into Islamic heaven with enough positive religious points.
D. In order to get these Islamic religious points, there is a number of things you can do to qualify which are spelled out in the Quran as well as the Sunnah and Hadeeth texts about Muhammad's life. These range from "being a good Muslim", doing things to promote Islam, and generally living an Islamic lifestyle. Primarily, this means praying five times a day and fulfilling the other 4 "Pillars of Islam" (profession of Islamic faith, giving charity only to other Muslims, fasting during Ramadan, and pilgrimage to Mecca). For the most part, if you pray five times a day and fulfill the other four pillars of Islam you get your standard Islamic Religious Points and the angels track this and you're likely to get into heaven.
E. This can become problematic for religiously lazy or sinful Muslim because what happens if a Muslim falls off the Islamic bandwagon so often that he skips so many prayers and does so much sinful stuff (extramarital sex, doesn't believe in Allah, talks to women, drinks beer, etc.) that the Muslim realizes, "I've been so bad that there's no way I can possibly get into heaven!" If a Muslim has this thought, then the natural next thought is: "I might as well give up on Islam because I'm just going to lose." BUT, one of the "brilliant" elements of Islam is that it offers these losers and sinners numerous chances to earn BONUS points. Islam allows you to double up on prayers to make up for skipped prayers, it allows you to give extra prayers during certain holy months and on super holy evenings that you can actually earn SUPER BONUS points. Of course, Islam and Muslims don't refer to them as such and would be offended by the suggestion that their religion offers game show-like super bonus points, but so it is.
F. Lastly, the ultimate source of super bonus points is dying in defense/promotion of Islam as a martyr, i.e. jihad.
So if you look at the profiles of many suicide murderers in Islam, you will see one of several patterns:
A. Muslim X is a sinful Muslim and "no-one would suspect" this Muslim of ever falling into jihad because their sinful behavior was so unIslamic that people would possibly even view him as "not being a Muslim".
B. Muslim X has experienced something so shameful that the Islamic community totally ostracizes the man/woman and this person lives a life of despair: this is often the case for female suicide bombers who have often been raped because Islam usually believes in shared-fault with rape and blames the woman for her rape and punishes her accordingly. At a minimum, a woman who is raped - and the community finds out about this - her life is basically over because no "pious" Muslim is going to marry a filthy whore who has had extramarital sex, rape or not. (Whether or not the man has hypocritically had extramarital sex is a non-issue here because men are held to a different standard.)
C. Muslim X lives a life of mental torment and conflict because he is something that Islam inherently rejects, or he does something which will never be reconciled with Islam and/or forgiven under normal circumstances by Allah. Often this is the case with suicide murderers who are single, unmarried and childless, and most probably either gay or otherwise socially unacceptable to the Islamic community.
Yet for these people living a life of despair who cannot tolerate life on Earth - and who are not tolerated by Muslims on this Earth - there is one possible way out: get into good graces with Allah by fighting jihad for Islam. If Allah is graceful enough and pleased enough with your jihad, he might just forgive your plethora of sin and let you into Islamic heaven.
Therefore, it is my view that Nidal Malik Hasan undertook his jihad against the infidel soldiers and great "enemy of Islam" - the American military - in order to gain favor with Allah.
NOTE: Islam is a religion of violence which promotes lying to infidels and the murder of all of those who stand in Islam's way. When the media reports on a person being a "pious Muslim" this MUST start sending up red flags in the minds of all of us. Unlike a pious believer in Jesus Christ, who most likely would attempt to emulate Jesus' pacifistic, non-violent and charitable lifestyle, the "pious Muslim" seeks to emulate the life of Muhammad, a pedophile who married and raped 9-year old girls, a man who tortured and murdered anyone who disagreed with him, a man who employed genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jews and infidels of Arabia in the 7th Century, and a man who sought to dominate and destroy every non-Islamic society and individual on Earth.
If we were to look at religion as a computer operating system, then we need to be extremely concerned whenever the Islamic mental operating system gets fired up in someone's mind because the first lines of code that get executed during boot-up are the destruction of democracy, the subordination of women, and the eventual destruction of all non-Muslims through one-on-one violence or global Islamic jihad. Yes, Nidal Malik Hasan wa a pious Muslim, and by all accounts rapidly getting more pious. What was the ultimate consequence of his increasing Islamic piety?
That mass murder of non-Islamic Americans whom he viewed - as a Muslim - as the enemies of Allah.
Yes, we will, Mr. President! Shame on us for thinking that this would have anything to do with Islam. ................... Of course, since you have a passing knowledge of the "Religion of Peace", you might have your suspicions. Repress them, Obamahdi!
Remember your friends in the elite leftish milieu all swear that Muslims have been and are being exploited by the evil capitalists! Workers (and killers) of the world unite!
Very interesting post! Your summary of "Islamic Religious Points" is a superb distillation of the endless maze of islamic absurdities with regard to a "true" relation with God.
I find your posts truly enlightening and informative. Keep up the excellent work!
an Islamic Psychiatrist with Palestinian heritage, expressing resentment against the war, works with service (wo)men returning from the war of terror fighting islamic fundamentalists.
on behalf of the 13 grieving families I ask what a f*up system allowed this guy to be in the position he was.
"... to gain favor of Allah ...."
i don't think he gained favor. Allah gives no certainty; in this Allah is not very helpful.
even the Sharia can give no certainty, for there could be many interpretations forthcoming by the experts about what the Major "was." in this Allah is not very helpful.
what the Major succeeded in doing, besides murdering and wounding and creating chaos, is to assure greater surveillance and almost certain harassment of the "brothers," which will keep folks on edge and give organizations meaning to destroy freedoms and eliminate rights more opportunity to carry on, in order to gain favor of Allah.
and, the Major will truly suffer major pain in Hellfire which he meant to avoid. Allah gave him no guarantee of favor,or, mercy, for that matter.
"... to gain favor of Allah ...."
i don't think he gained favor. Allah gives no certainty; in this Allah is not very helpful.
even the Sharia can give no certainty, for there could be many interpretations forthcoming by the experts about what the Major "was." in this Allah is not very helpful.
what the Major succeeded in doing, besides murdering and wounding and creating chaos, is to assure greater surveillance and almost certain harassment of the "brothers," which will keep folks on edge and give organizations meaning to destroy freedoms and eliminate rights more opportunity to carry on, in order to gain favor of Allah.
and, the Major will truly suffer major pain in Hellfire which he meant to avoid. Allah gives him no guarantee of favor,or, mercy, for that matter.
Any "Infidel" who would go to an Islamic psychiatrist needs to have his/her head examined.
boakai ngombu,
Certainly, no favor by Allah is ever guaranteed and anyone's interpretation on Earth of a person's good/bad deeds ultimately doesn't matter since only Allah decides. As such, while Shariah may attempt to interpret what Islam views as a good deed and a bad deed, and therefore to guide Muslims to do things which Islam considers good (subordination of women, destruction of Infidels, fighting violent jihad, etc.), a Muslim is only left on his own to attempt to please Allah in order to do his "best" to get into Heaven.
Of course, because of this point-accounting system vis-a-vis heaven and Islam, MANY Muslims take the perspective that if they sin at one point they can just do something deemed good by Islam in order to make up for that sin in the future, and attempt to influence the final outcome when the angels tally one's good deeds and one's bad deeds upon their death. Heaven is a pass-fail proposition in Islam, and the pass rate is quite low... 50.1%.
No wonder the Islamic world is so dysfunctional when left to its own devices. What social system can possibly produce anything of value when society's highest standards are set at just a hair above horrible?
While living in the heart of the Islamic world, I saw this behavior of doing "good" because of having done bad ALL THE TIME. It was even schizophrenic in its manifestation: Muslim acquaintance X would commit sin Y and then immediately turn around and attempt to make up for the sin by trying to convince me to convert to Islam. It was ridiculous, and naturally I never converted because A) Islam is a sham, and B) I found the underlying Islamic concept which propelled this guy to ask me to convert in the first place in order to cover for his own sin to be fundamentally pathetic. This is, sadly, the nature of Islam and cannot be escaped.
As for interpreting Nidal Malik Hasan shoot out at Fort Hood as being a mistake because it will now bring the ire of Texans and Americans in general against Muslims and Islam, that is PRECISELY the problem: Muslims do not view these attacks as bad because they are inherently wrong in and of themselves, but ONLY because they make life for Muslims more difficult. As such, we non-Muslims need to wise up to the fact that Islam actually promotes and inspires these sorts of attacks and that MANY, MANY Muslims will praise these attacks when they believe no Infidels are around to hear them.
Lastly, Nidal Malik Hasan's attack has the beneficial consequence of:
1. Getting non-Muslim Americans to view Islam and Muslims with greater suspicion, which
2. Will further convince Muslims that they are under attack by the enemies of Islam (when in fact it was a Muslim who instigated the aggression), which
3. Allows Muslims to approve of violent jihad against "America" because the Muslim mind - which knows no logic or chronology - sees no connection between the first Muslim aggression against the Infidel as justifying the Infidel putting Islam and the Muslim community under suspicion in the first place. All the Muslim mind sees is the Islamic community under suspicion, or the Infidel participating in a war against Muslims (which Muslims themselves began and now label as a War against Islam!) and this then justifies either Islamic authorities legislating violent jihad against the Infidel or the Muslim *himself* deciding to undertake violent jihad whenever and wherever he can in order to directly please Allah.
In this light, Nidal Malik Hasan is actually furthering the cause of Islam by giving Muslims a greater reason to hate and destroy the American military of Infidels, and to bring the Islamic community worldwide to a point where they will ultimately find common cause, join together, reestablish the Caliphate and then systematically attack the world of Infidels – as Allah commands them to do – until such time that Islam destroys it all and reigns supreme.
Naturally, Nidal Malik Hasan's single act will not bring this about, but it is one more brick laid in the road to this ultimate destination.
Dynamite post! Thanks! I especially liked "If we were to look at religion as a computer operating system, then we need to be extremely concerned whenever the Islamic mental operating system gets fired up in someone's mind because the first lines of code that get executed during boot-up are ..." Superb analogy.
One of the things that could be added is that the Islamic Operating System is extremely self-referential, and lacks, among other things, an empathy module, a "Golden Rule" subroutine or service, that allows it to recognize or take into account the suffering of others outside of its own space and modify its operations accordingly. Almost all other religious operating systems have this code in them, certainly the other major religions do, but not Islam. The Islamic Operating System is long overdue for, not just a Service Pack or a minor revision, but a full major revision. Better still, toss it completely and adopt one of the better operating systems that are out there.
I beg to differ on the 'islamic operating system'.
I'd offer humanity as the PC/Mac, the operating system is the values and tenets that humanity lives by and islam is merely a virus that we have to deal with.
It is the old problem of obtaining righteousness with works. You slamto in the problem of how much each work is worth in the celestial accounting scheme, and if a sufficient number of these have been accumulated. Also, even more seriously, a work in and of itself is not righteous. If a "good" deed is done grudgingly as an obligation or under duress, is it really a good deed? Most religions look at the intentions and capacities of the doer, more than the act itself in assessing righteousness. A robber could give away $100 a day to a poor person, but if he actually commits wrongs against his neighbors that net him ten or twenty times that sum, what has he actually accomplished? In addition, works righteousness runs into the problem of being simply a sin checking account, which in no way favorably changes the sinner's behavior. Balancing one's books does not improve one's character or enhance one's relationship with the higher power. It is a wordly charade that will come to nothing after one's death, if there is an afterlife.
"BUT, one of the "brilliant" elements of Islam is that it offers these losers and sinners numerous chances to earn BONUS points. Islam allows you to double up on prayers to make up for skipped prayers, it allows you to give extra prayers during certain holy months and on super holy evenings that you can actually earn SUPER BONUS points. Of course, Islam and Muslims don't refer to them as such and would be offended by the suggestion that their religion offers game show-like super bonus points, but so it is. "
This seems like some sort of divine pinball game. You are never truly out until the last ball is played. Even a nearly empty hopper for the steel game balls can be refilled, if one plays the game properly. I realize that this is a crude analogy, but it seems to fit.
Muslim vets group: No reports of harassment of Muslim soldiers. None.
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This doesn't surprise me. Al Jazeera had a representative of the Association of Patriotic Arab Americans in the Military on today. The host was going on about how Hasan's family said that he had been "harassed: in the service—it seemed clear he expected his guest, who had been a sergeant in the army, to agree with him.
Instead, he made it clear that anyone below the rank of major who tried to harass Hasan would be brought up on insubordination charges if he tried. He did say that some hassling is common with 18-19 year-old recruits, but that *everyone* in this group gets ribbed, and that such ribbing is rarely religious in nature. Moreover (whatever one might think of it) that the military had instituted 'sensitivity training' on such matters in the past decade.
"BUT, one of the "brilliant" elements of Islam is that it offers these losers and sinners numerous chances to earn BONUS points. Islam allows you to double up on prayers to make up for skipped prayers, it allows you to give extra prayers during certain holy months and on super holy evenings that you can actually earn SUPER BONUS points. Of course, Islam and Muslims don't refer to them as such and would be offended by the suggestion that their religion offers game show-like super bonus points, but so it is. "
This seems like some sort of divine pinball game. You are never truly out until the last ball is played. Even a nearly empty hopper for the steel game balls can be refilled, if one plays the game properly. I realize that this is a crude analogy, but it seems to fit.
The victim mentality sees a different universe from the rest of us.
I'm pleased to see the vets group come forward with common sense and truth. I's nice to see what might at least actually be some loyal American Muslims stand up and be counted from time to time.
That said, claims of harassment and victimhood are usually the leper's bell of an approaching criminal.
So this forty year old virgin, terrorist didn't like his fellow soldiers referring to the enemy as "rag heads"?
He is a soldier in the army and killed 13 people because he was offended by this.
Islam is what Islam does.
on the homosexual angle. Islam seems to be conflicted about this behavoir. As the posting said there is a great deal of Muhammad does Muhammad going on in the Umma because of the imprisonment of women. Man/boy stuff seems to be a particularly desirable pursuit. It is seldom noticed that when a jihadist martyr pitches up in paradise not only is he issued his 72 high bosomed virgins but he is also issued and indeterminent number of young boys described in the Koran as being fair "as Pearls." It should also be noted that when the now-dead jihadist first arrives at the at the reservation desk in paradise he is given a special food that gives him the potency of 80 men (double the potency of the Prophet!). Every good copulating Mohammedan understands that 72 virgins, high breasted or not, is too many and it may take him a month or so to get through the whole lot. We can't be having any of this so our jihadist is issued some 7th Century hyper-viagra. The surplus of 8 is what the young boys are for.........where do I sign up!