Rochester hit-and-run driver: "The Muslims will fix this country"

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Perhaps by getting in cars and running down all the non-Muslims. An update on this story. "Rochester man pleads not guilty after Thursday police chase," from WHEC.com, November 13 (thanks to Scott):

A Rochester man is in custody after a police chase down several Rochester streets.

Around 2 p.m., a Rochester Police officer was flagged down in front of a store on South Plymouth Avenue for the report of a man, identified as 27-year-old Munir Muthana, driving erratically.

Police tried to stop Muthana but he did not stop and then struck the officer's vehicle. A slow-speed pursuit ensued down various streets in southwest Rochester. Muthana's Nissan Maxima hit a car at Jefferson Avenue and West Main Street.

He continued driving down Jefferson Avenue, hitting a second police vehicle driven by a K-9 sergeant at the intersection of Jefferson Avenue and Clifton Street....

Muthana is facing five counts of second-degree assault, DWI and reckless driving. He is accused of injuring six people. They are 21-year-old Dominick Nicholson, 20-year-old Tyrese Beard, 40-year-old James Pross, 50-year-old Debra Hollis, 25-year-old Luis Cruz and 49-year-old Diane Neil. All are Rochester residents.

In his statement to police, he said he drank six cans of Budweiser in an hour. Then he started using swear words, cussing police and government. He said, "Ben Franklin was stupid. He should have made it so you *expletives* can't swerve the law. The Muslims will fix this country."

When bail was being set at $20,000, the prosecutor said that Muthana has ties to Yemen....

The Budweiser may indicate that this had nothing to do with jihad -- or that he needed to steel himself.

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There's little Islam can fix.

Just look at the decrepit, dilapidated and, quite frankly, CRAP state of the Islamic world today.

Why would we want any of this in the West? Can someone please explain that to me? As we can see, it's becoming a recipe for disaster and slowly killing our civilisation.

Swerve the law? Does he mean sharia?
If so, he did a pretty good job "swerving" it himself, with all that beer. Didn't anyone in his mosque tell this good little Muslim that alcohol is prohibited in Islam?

If at all possible, don't sentence him to jail. Sentence him to Yemen.

The local radio said he was spotted entering an apartment building with a ...wait for it...transvestite.

No, I'm not making that up, look for yourself -

http://www.wham1180.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=122742&article=6318645

[In] Rochester [allegedly], [alleged] hit-and-run driver: [said] "The Muslims will fix this country" [allegedly]

There, I feel more honest with myself.

Funny how that alcohol works. Seems to remove inhibitions causing Mr. Moslem to say what he really thinks. Perhaps that’s why the pedophile Prophet banned alcohol

The attacks are coming in one after the other.

The reason being that there is no backlash.

The fact that there has been no “backlash” worth talking of, apart maybe from a few stares at passing Muslims, raises a couple of questions.

Defending your own society, i.e., self-defence, from a foreign hostile one, is a normal response of any healthy society. The fact that there has been no “backlash” here or in the US and Australia, despite dozens of terror acts indicates that our immune system has been neutralised. Why and how I will leave for the moment. However, this lack of an immune response from the host body bodes ill for the future safety and well being of the host.

Muslim Jihadis note our lack of response and interpret it as a sign that our societies are degenerate and weak as a consequence. It emboldens them to mount further attacks, as they are confident that no actions will take place, which materially damages the Umma.

So what will happen if there is a backlash.
The moment there is a backlash, Muslims and their Left allies will immediately claim that Muslims are being victimised. Gone will be the support for the families of the dead and injured. What we will hear is 24 hrs a day, how a poor Muslim woman had her hijab torn off.

This has to stop. The sheer stupidity of the MSM is endangering the West, themselves included.


"Muslims will fix this country".

You mean "fix" like the Islamic world?

Now for your Orc on Orc violence. This sort of thing really should be encouraged. Perhaps Iran will nuke the Saudis?

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqXYRZGei4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwF8DNln-6g&feature=related

DP11

I'd say this is due to alcohol and stupidity...kind of like gas and matches...

Peace
Abdullah

"Sentence him to Yemen." - Hugh

From the Kentucky Fried Movie:

Agent 1: "Worse than Detroit?"

Agent 2: "I'm afraid so."

Agent 1: *shudder*

"In his statement to police, he said he drank six cans of Budweiser in an hour. Then he started using swear words, cussing police and government. He said, "Ben Franklin was stupid. He should have made it so you *expletives* can't swerve the law. The Muslims will fix this country."

"Some people drank alcohol in the morning of the day of the battle of Uhud and were martyred on the same day."--Bukhari:V4B52N70

The very act of slaying the "perfidious" kafir/mushrik/zindiq/murtadd/munafiq extirpates any of the "sins" of the "godly" mujahid...

A new category of crime: the D.U.I.I.

Driving Under the Influence of Islam

otherwise to be known as D.W.I.

Driving While Islamic

A new category of crime: the D.U.I.I.

Driving Under the Influence of Islam

otherwise to be known as D.W.I.

Driving While Islamic

Wait, let me get this straight:

"Ben Franklin was stupid." - the above Mohammedan

It's really unbelievable, isn't it?

AM : I'd say this is due to alcohol and stupidity...kind of like gas and matches...

Oh, so he's a 'bed moslem and shouldn't be representative of islam?

Of course no! Why would we include him, he's clearly a total loser.

So at what point are we allowed to attach moslem faith to their many transgressions?

Sorry, the above post should read 'bad'.

I always think of the saying, in vino veritas.

I would make it more difficult to keep up the taqiyya, for one thing.

"Muslims will fix this country".

You mean "fix" like the Islamic world?

Now for your Orc on Orc violence. This sort of thing really should be encouraged. Perhaps Iran will nuke the Saudis?

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqXYRZGei4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwF8DNln-6g&feature=related

Just one more quip:

If they "fix" it, it will wind up here:
http://thereifixedit.com/

Of course the moslem would think Ben Franklin was stupid To him only a stupid man hasn't enjoyed the sexual company of a 9 year old child.

Now, that's the kind of man this moslem loves.

Yes, I would agree that Islam is alot like gasoline and matches. It is only a matter of time before a conflagration occurs.

While I'm all for getting the drink on before stripping naked, painting myself blue, and going into battle...does it HAVE to be Bud?


Any proof of tastelessness after such an admission is just plain redundant.

Wyldeirishman asks,

does it HAVE to be Bud?

Personally, I think NOT.

I enjoy Beck's Dark or a Guinness Stout.

:)

Ben Franklin's last published letter was a satire envidiously comparing the enslaving of White Christians by the North African Muslims with the British slave trade. He concluded it with:

"And since like Motives are apt to produce in the Minds of Men like Opinions and Resolutions, may we not, Mr. Brown, venture to predict, from this Account, that the Petitions to the Parliament of England for abolishing the Slave-Trade, to say nothing of other Legislatures, and the Debates upon them, will have a similar Conclusion? I am, Sir, your constant Reader and humble Servant,

(Signed) HISTORICUS. (Pseudonym of Ben Franklin)"

Yes, Ben Franklin was an Islamophobe.

Nobody cares what you think, Slave. You're a liar and a fool.

QE

Questions from you are never just that, are they?

But to answer you, personally? I'd say never...people who abide by Islam don't end up doing things that are wrong.

If this idiot abided by Islam and avoided alcohol we'd never even know who he was.

Peace
Abdullah

"alcohol"..."mental illness"..."out of context"...

Everything but the actual root cause.

You know what would be refreshing Abdullah? If you could - without conceding anything is actually wrong with your faith - concede that there is a REAL PROBLEM worldwide with how many, many Muslims seem to (mis?)perceive their faith.

All the more remarkable how many moslems abide by islam and still manage to do things that civilized society call wrong?

Jew Dog, thanks for citing Be Franklin's last letter. Like Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and James Madison, the Founding Fathers understood the threat of Islam.

Here is a germane passage:

"Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it."

Or, in other words, "the Muslims will fix this country".

Only if we let them.


But..., but.... what a fine, upstanding example of izlum this young man appears to be... how congenial, how intelligent.... wouldn't ANY free nation be proud to call him a citizen? Aren't we - as a democracy - empowered and enlightened by having this muzzle-em among us? The wisdom, the hope, the character... why, his very presence among us is uplifting! Are there more, where he came from? "Give us your liars, your spoor... your rancid wreckage yearning to destroy freedom..." How in the world have we gotten by for so long without him? I just KNOW I'm hoping for more of just this sort....

FP: So summarize for us why it is so crucial for us to learn the doctrine of political Islam.

Warner: Political Islam has annihilated every culture it has invaded or immigrated to. The total time for annihilation takes centuries, but once Islam is ascendant it never fails. The host culture disappears and becomes extinct.

We must learn the doctrine of political Islam to survive. The doctrine is very clear that all forms of force and persuasion may and must be used to conquer us. Islam is a self-declared enemy of all unbelievers. The brilliant Chinese philosopher of war, Sun Tsu, had the dictum—know the enemy. We must know the doctrine of our enemy or be annihilated.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/02/the-study-of-political-islam.html

Yeah, the Muslims will fix this country alright, they will fix it good. If by good one means disappeared, extinct.

AM If this idiot abided by Islam and avoided alcohol we'd never even know who he was.

So you are saying we would never know his name because he would be little pieces all over some place were he tried to kill as many infidels as possible. But because of the alcohol it just did not go that way.

Is that it LIAR, LIAR, LIAR!!

This ugly muslim punk seems to be good at breaking things and insulting the police. I guess he got drunk because he just couldn't cope. How could a pious muslim tolerate America's corrupt, vile society sober? Go have another Bud hypocrite, and then go "fix" that glorious islamic paradise called "Yemen". How do these creeps get into our country?

As for the "backlash" mentioned above, it's coming. If the American people had an inkling of what really goes on involving muslim jihadis in America, most of which is cleverly obfuscated by the nefarious MSM, they would be enraged. Americans are law-abiding, tolerant people but everyone has a breaking point. If the muslims keep pushing, it will get very ugly and believe me, accusations of "islamophobia" and "bigotry" from the shills at CAIR will only fan the flames. I think CAIR would revel in violent clashes between gangs of muslim thugs and fed-up Americans.

"The Muslims will fix this country"

Don't like it when you are considered equal under the law do you? LOL

Funny...I have that tagline under my Yahoo profile since 1998 LOL

Ok... It's Friday. I've enjoyed a haram beverage. One and a half, really. Still no inclination to get behind the wheel and mow down people who don't follow my religion.

So if it's not the sauce, there must be some other underlying ideology that made Muthana go on his rampage.

In vino veritas.

'Cept AM doesn't BELIEVE in Sex Heaven ...whateeeever, AM!

Our job is to create a political environment where politicians and law enforcement are more afraid of the censure of the American people than they are of the wrath of Muslim advocacy groups.

Abdullah, since you probably don't drink, I'm going to clear up a misconception about the effects of recreational drugs (particularly alcohol in this case) that non-users tend to have/

Like most drugs, alcohol does not "make" you do anything you don't really want to do. What it does is lower your inhibitions, making you more likely to do something you already DO want to do, but ordinarily know you shouldn't (such as telling someone you don't like what you really think of them, etc).

The fact that this guy get behind the wheel while drunk means that his inhibitions against doing so were normally working. He had to get drunk to get the balls up to do it.

This is why the drunk or high defense should NEVER be allowed.

Not meant to offend, but was that six cans of American Bud he drank? Wow. They really are (and here’s the word I’m pretty sure Marisol is deleting the entire comment for , when I thought the first two times it might just be a typepad problem, but not, because the word, you see, is one commonly used by military men, who really are on the front lines against this perverse ideology, but since it’s just another word for “cat”…are you a cat person Marisol?...I guess I have to leave it out.)

But then again, when you’re a law unto yourself (in your puny little muslim mind), I guess ridin’ drunk on the donkey…I mean in a car – ‘cause you’re in civilization now son-of-a-goat-herder…if the filthy Kufar can’t get out of the way, must be allah’s will. (hic)

Drinkin’ and drivin’. Who needs a loaded gun. Imagine if he’d been driving a bus. Oh wait, there I go again givin’ them ideas…

Of course, the backlash will be against the alcohol venders. I can see it now, (MMMADD) Mad Muslim Mullahs Againts Drunk Driving.

"...he said he drank six cans of Budweiser in an hour." ..drunk on six beers? ..ha-ha! ..he's stoned on islam.

Budweiser makes the Hurricane High Gravity, those tallboys have been known to cause "using swear words, cussing police and government" on occasion.

Islam the blanket of doom that smothers all it covers. Perhaps not in America where the Wild West Syndrome is still prevalent. An awakening and that backlash when it comes will be swift and decisive. Woe to muslims - even the ones that would live in peace for eventually they'll all be swept up in the cleaning!

Here is a google search on non-muslims running down people with a car :

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS317US317&q=driver+intentionally++ran+down+people

If everybody had the attitude that only islamic militants are the problem, how do we stop the next Timothy McVeigh or the next non-muslim serial killer or the next non-muslim spree killer or the next non-muslim mass murderer or the next Hitler ?


You are more likely to be a victim of a non-muslim fellow American than a muslim terrorist so we need to address both problems and not just concentrate on muslim terrorists.

Militant islam is the largest unified front against non-muslims. Whereas McVeigh and Hitler had little to do with each other and were not even contemporaneous, the jihad against civilization continues to unite hordes of morons.

Your statement is akin to saying that because non-muslims have committed crimes, we should ignore the presence of islamic agression. This is also like saying FDR should have ignored the Axis powers, because the Mafia existed.

Your final statement about being more likely to be a victim of a non-muslim is ridiculous in light of the fact that muslims are less than 3% of the population of the US but are responsible for over 99% of terrorist activities. Again, this is like saying a Jew in America in 1938 had no chance of being killed in the holocaust, therefore it would be prudent of American Jews to address other problems.

When muslims attack us in the name of their god, and under the banner of their religion, we have a right to respond in kind. The existence of other threats does not mitigate this. Finally, pretending orthodox islam is not a threat to liberty does not actually make it true.

THANK YOU, butterfly! I hope EVERYONE will read this! I most certainly will reprint it, share it and point every one to Bill and Jamie. Bill pretty much says it all, doesn't he? I think I hear him saying "Refuse to learn the lessons of history and be doomed to repeat it." [shudder] No thank you. I think I'll learn.

Wonderin1

There are several countries around the world that the Muslims have fixed...outside of Islam , the only things they have in common are unneccesary misery and lots of insane death.....

'Muslims will fix this country'...actually means...'Allah fixes all'...Without Allah, Mahoundians would have no power to 'fix' anything...But Allah is not a 'fixer', he is a destroyer...When he went on permanent vacation after Mahound died, he left clear instructions for Mahounds worshipers on how to carry on destruction in his name...'Convert or destruct'...The jihad will continue, until 'all' worship Allah...

I still can't figure out wnat Benjamin Franklin had to do with any of this.

Spirit Wolf ( dig the handle...)

You wrote, "This is why the drunk or high defense should NEVER be allowed."

And that is absolutely true...there is no such thing in Islam as the "I was intoxicated" defense...I am not saying some people attempt to provide that as a defense in secular courts...I am sure they do, however, it is not allowed in Islam.

The person who decided to take the intoxicant is responsible for his actions while he is under the influence.

Foundation for that Sharia is in Surat Al-Qamar and Surat Ash-Shams wherein the person in question held his hand back from harming the she camel as he feared God, because he realized the miracle that their Prophet produced by the leave of God was from God as the Pregnant She Camel had come, as his people demanded as proof of the truth of their messenger, walking right out of solid stone.

He became intoxicated and thus lost his inhibitions and killed the she camel.

For this his entire people were destroyed by God.

His “intoxication” defense was obviously rejected, just as this drunk idiot’s will be rejected, God willing.

Peace
Abdullah

“What should a free man do?

Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong. That is your oath.”

Although you are clearly unaware of it, this quote, even though its source may be entirely different, can be directly from and is in absolute harmony with Islam.

Peace
Abdullah

45ch, you seem a little confused. I don't recall anyone on here ever claiming there are no other threats than militant Islam out there. However, this site is called Jihadwatch, and its focus is the Global Jihad. Just because other threats exist, doesn't mean we should ignore this one, even if we are statistically more likely to die because of them. For example, a given American is much more likely to die from heart disease than from being murdered by a child molesters. However, I don't think anyone is claiming we shouldn't focus on stopping child molesters because of heart disease, and if you search the internet, you will easily find sites devoted exclusively to discussing the causes and fighting against heart disease, as well as sites devoted exclusively to studying the motivations and and preventing attacks on children by pedophiles.

When there is a news article about another pedophile harming a child, I never remember hearing anyone say, "Well, what about 9/11? What about the Muslim occupation of Spain and India?" So why is it that anytime a Muslim carries out an obviously religiously motivated jihad attack, that apologists come out of the woodwork to say "What about Tim McVeigh? What about the Crusades?"


A drunken muslim, God forbid he should have been killed lest allah smell alcohol on his breath and not give him his virgins.

Abdullah M sez: If this idiot abided by Islam and avoided alcohol we'd never even know who he was.
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Abd - you seem to have a functioning intellect, except for the distortions, fantasies and limitations imposed upon you by Islam.

If Muthana had enjoyed alcohol sensibly and been free of Islam we would also not know who he was. And he would be better poised to be a functioning member of the civilization in which he lives. See how Islam has destroyed him.

But what about you? You have the power to break free. The sense of right and wrong within you comes from you, not from Islam. You would use your freedoms sensibly because the power and the understanding is within you. Get free, brother! You know you want to - listen to that voice - it is right. Let it grow, give it strength. We're rooting for you!

Robert closed his post with:

"The Budweiser may indicate that this had nothing to do with jihad -- or that he needed to steel himself"

And Jihadists apparently are "permitted" to do what's "Haram"(Forbidden)prior to their Jihad Act.

The 9/11 Murderers went to a STRIP CLUB before their BARBARIC ATTACK on OUR COUNTRY.

KrazyKafir POSTED:
"Funny how that alcohol works. Seems to remove inhibitions causing Mr. Moslem to say what he really thinks. Perhaps that’s why the pedophile Prophet banned alcohol"

COULD NOT AGREE MORE!

Alcohol= The ANTI-TAQYIAA

KrazyKafir POSTED:
"Funny how that alcohol works. Seems to remove inhibitions causing Mr. Moslem to say what he really thinks. Perhaps that’s why the pedophile Prophet banned alcohol"

COULD NOT AGREE MORE!

Alcohol= The ANTI-TAQYIAA

The impression I got was that he was upset at being drunk and vented his anger at the "evil" government that "let" him sin so terribly.

The Liver is Evil It MUST Be Punished!
Support Your Local Liquor Store!

Abu Allah,

Please read again what I said :

You are more likely to be a victim of a non-muslim fellow American than a muslim terrorist so we need to address both problems and not just concentrate on muslim terrorists.

You're missing the point, AM.

Just as the person in your story was already predisposed to kill a camel, the person in this article was predisposed to go out and kill khufr - he just needed the alcohol to steel him up for it, just as your hashishim once abused hashish before they went out killing.

If he had not been already infected with khufrphobia, he could have drank all he liked and we still wouldn't know his name. However, his ingrained Islam might likely have set him to killing sooner or later; as we can see, he was already inclined to do so, just too cowardly to have done it before this.

45ch, that is fine, and I didn't debate your assertion that we are more likely to die from non jihad related causes, and you are certainly free to focus on these other issues, preferably on a website that focuses on one or more of these issues. This is Jihadwatch, and its focus is on the global jihad. What makes you think that it makes any more sense to discuss serial killers on this website than it would to discuss car accident rates on a site dedicated to the prevention of domestic violence? I have an interest in many other subjects, such as global warming and sustainable energy, but I don't raise the issues here except as it relates to the global jihad. If I were running this site, I would delete posts like yours, as they willfully distract from the topic at hand.

You don't know God.

You "know" a pre-islamic pagan (non-existent) moon deity called "al-ilah."

You're a pitiful brainwashed fool worshipping a pagan idol.

You don't know God!

Jesus is God

allah is Not

End of story

This attempt at distraction is deliberate because the person you are speaking with in fact does not wish to discuss Islamist violence. It is best to conflate it with violence that is not religiously motivated, aince that removes responsibility from Islam's shoulders. One does not have to ponder or discuss the possibility that some tenets or understandings about Islam make the path to violence against others, especially unbelievers, more acceptable. An armed robber does not have an ideology or religious motivation behind their crime, at least none that is stated. Islamists frequently justify their actions by referring to the Koran, Hadiths, or other sacred sources as their inspiration for various offenses committed.

Abu Allah,

The topic at hand ?

The topic at hand is not helpful or useful to preventing the next attack unless all people here are interested in is gossip which does no help to the problems in the real world.

How do you propose that we prevent the next attack ?

45ch asked how we in the kafir countries prevent 'the next attack'.

Well, if we want to prevent more attacks of the sort that happened at Fort Hood, the obvious thing to do is to NOT let any more Muslims into the armed forces - or the police forces - or the security services, of any majority-nonMuslim country; and to demob those already ensconced therein.

As for preventing attacks of the sort that happened in San Francisco, in North Carolina, or in Rochester, or on three occasions in Jerusalem in the past year, then it seems to me that the long-term answer is: not having Mohammedans in large (and ever-increasing) numbers living in one's free non-Muslim country. The fewer Mohammedans around, the fewer cases there will be of Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

The task of all free non-Muslim citizens of all free majority-nonMuslim countries is to try to wake up our politicians and make them understand that we are, in fact, in the middle of a war - the longest war, the Jihad of Islam against everyone and everything not-Muslim, that started in the 7th century and has never ended, only taken timeouts when the Muslims were weak and/ or divided, or their chosen targets too strong - and that Muslims within the non-Muslim world are a Fifth Column, a sea within which the jihadists swim and from which smaller or greater outbursts of malevolence and aggression against non-Muslims, continually arise.

How do you propose that we prevent the next attack ?

It depends on which type of attack you are trying to prevent. If I want to prevent an attack by a child molester, I would tend to try to find out as much about motivations for such an attack, and try to create a profile of would-be attackers. What I wouldn't do would be to tell those who are interested in such endeavors on a website that they created that they should focus more on heart attacks since they are statistically more likely to suffer from them than from an attack by a child molester. You getting this yet?

DRINK MORE BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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