Taliban has penetrated Afghan National Police "at every level"

Would we have the hubris to think that Muslims living in the stone age would willingly embrace the modern world? Leave them to play in the rocks.

I wish someone would have the stones to ask Obama or the Joint Chiefs at their next press conference this simple question - "How do you know, or how CAN you EVER know the loyalty and intentions of the police and army recruits you are training in Iraq and Afghanistan?"

Answer: blah, blah, blah, and happy talk. Or "tough" but empty rhetoric.

Follow up: "Since we can never know their loyalties and their is a mountain of evidence that they are corrupt, treacherous, cowardly, etc, WTF are we doing wasting our time, money, and people dealing with them?? When are we going to admit the obvious - that these people can't be made like us any more than a jackal can be made into a herbivore?""

My solution is to make the whole country glow in the dark and be done with it. Because of radiation residual anyone form that area would be quickly identified with a geiger counter. This also goes for the drugs and narcotics being radio active and easily identified.

Hope I am not tooooo politically incorrect.

... there is widespread corruption and disloyalty...

Are we talking Moslems in Afghan or Moslems in Michiganistan here?
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Speaking of widespread corruption and disloyalty, Prez Hussein is in a spot on his slowly unfolding Afghan War decision. Does he support his troops, or his fellow Moslems? Does he undertake a massive program of bribery in Afghan, or let his Marines and soldiers gun these Moslem activists down?

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Are we talking widespread corruption and disloyalty in Karzai's tent, or in the White House?

While I imagine some "corrupt" Afghan cops came to that by accepting Taliban bribes, it's more likely that most cops working with the Infidel are sleepers.

So, they need to be jailed or killed. That's my take.

Robert, As someone asked on another thread shut down this SOB AM. Answering his deceptive and misleading statements is a waste of time and detours the subject of the tread.

"...penetrated by the Taliban "at every level" with officers poorly trained, corrupt and some addicted to drugs..."

I don't give a RAT'S ASS about the people of Afghanistan wallowing in their Islamic misery. Get our brave young people away from these treasonous murdering so-called 'allies' NOW.

Because of our past experience with these people ( just to call them something you know )in Spain,our minds are programmed to NEVER TRUST OR BELIEVE A MORO ( moro=moor )in any circumstance. I think the international forces dealing with them should have asked for this our advice.

here is a gem for all,
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh21/plotino_photos/latomadeGranada.jpg

the surrender of Granada to our king and Queen.Yes, to a woman, see that Abdullah? You were forced to surrender by a brave woman.

Peace to you too, but far away from our lands,please.

"The police officer who killed five British soldiers ... was [possibly] paid to switch sides..." -- from the story.

This is possibly true, and although of no consolation to the families of those who died, it is as relatively insignificant within the larger context of the the chaos that is Afghanistan as a single raindrop is in a downpour. No doubt we'll rush about with pales to try to catch the falling drops, but in the end none of this will work.

It doesn't appear that Obama and his advisers quite know what to do with the tiger they have by tail. Nor do they, any of them, give any evidence of understanding that petting this pussy or merely purring "nice kitty, nice kitty" is not the right way of dealing with this animal.

The fundamental mistake in Afghanistan was to team up with an Islamic regime. Either force a secular regime or carve out Islam-free zones. For example, start with Bagram and expand around it - no mosques, no Muslims. But, sigh, we're not ready for that yet - so maybe just close up shop.

What did the U.S. and NATO expect?

Its a Islamic country full of brutal Islamic people who like living as stone age savages and really don't like infidels period. But no the flower of western education can't see that, because their heads are stuffed full of overwrought bullshit from their professors and can no longer think for themselves or even able to observe and learn from the world around them.

If they did, we would have left Afghanistan right after we kicked out Al-Qeada and left the savages their to fend for themselves.

Abudulla or what ever you call yourself,

Argument 1

"It's all derrogitory comments when you address the situation of countries in economic ruin due to more than thirty years of military occupation and civil war..."

Which means its OK to blow away unarmed 5 men having a cup of tea and wound about 12 others? (Not reported in MSM)

Argument 2

"but what about all those other "Muslim" countries?"

The ones all the nice muslims are busting their a*** to get out of so they can enrich us with their wonderful religion of peace?

Thought

Would you like to comment on these killings? I await your excuses or abuse with interest. Or perhaps you could tour Afghanistan and teach your coreligionists the true meaning of islam and ----Peace?

Abby's trying to bait people to say "Islamophobic" things to put in his anti-JW dossier which he's using to try to bring JW down. That's his main purpose for being here.

As usual, he's distracting from the topic by insulting people who feel outraged, but not surprised, that all this western money going to train the Afghan police force is being wasted since a good portion of the force is the Taliban. His hostile comments make him look as though he thinks it's a good thing that the Afghan police is infiltrated by the Taliban, and a good thing that the 5 British soldiers were shot by such an infiltrator. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a Taliban supporter, and if he'd like to bring such a system of rule to the U.S.

Fred, he's never going to answer you fairly.

Whenever the Slave sits down to post here, he's playing with his lizard... if you know what I mean.

AM : What would you do if occupation forces were in control of your country?

I hope you're not suggesting that Afghanistan is a country? It's a loosely governed collection of barely civilized tribes. What they have is NOT a country.

AM :The Afghans are under occupation, just like when the Nazis occupied Italy and France, there were resistance fighters...some open, some spies...only, you celebrate those resistance fighters, don't you, and yet you demonize the Afghan freedom fighters. Why?

They are hardly the bastions of civilization that Italy and France were, you fool. Afghanistan is barely a functioning society, it still relies on tribes. No wonder it's fallen prey to the vile cult of islam.

We need to get out and leave Afghanistan to Afghans, let them sort it out.

You should never let children fight, they need to be given a structure or they will stay in the societal 'dark-ages' they currently emulate.

AM : no one interfered in America when we had our great sorting out in the 1860's did they?

We? You're a moslem, not an American.

Abdullah Mikail asks?

"What would you do if occupation forces were in control of your country?

A. Be a patriot.
B. Be a coward and hide.
C Be the ulitmate coward, and surrender.
D. Be a traitor.

Which would you choose? If you give me an altruistic answer I will give you one.

Peace
Abdullah

mmmmmm.. good questions, but I would also ask:

E. What have my people done to warrant foreign forces on my soil?

F. Why are my Clerics demanding I sacrifice myself and my children as suicide bombers?

G. Why is my religious law so bloodthirsty?

H. Why are my countries women oppressed so much?

J. Why have my countrymen destroyed every single attempt to create something peacefull and useful to mankind?

K. Why do all my religious clerics only talk of death?

L. Why does my chosen religion routinely seek out and kill with glee any person not of my chosen religion?

M. Why have my people destroyed all the natural resources in my country?

N. Why does my government and my religious clerics feel it necessary to have undercover thugs spying on people in order to arrest and execute them for trivial or manufactured offenses.

mmmmm...there are many more questions I would be asking...but that's just me but then again, I haven't been brainwashed by a bunch of demonic, bloodthirsty , sadistic, worthless, uninviting, talentless, anti-mankind, anti-progress, anti-woman, anti-music, anti-common sense, anti-love, and just about anti-everything else...

just asking....

Back on line, I have a life outside JW.

It was the only answer I expected although I did not see why I should make it easy for you. Liberals have been canting the same line for years when someone they support does something unspeakable, “I am very sorry for the individuals but………………..”

Well parts of my country are under occupation. muslims have turned fair size city areas into downtown Pakistan and by various means drive out all non muslims. Asking why so few people in the London district of Tooting spoke English the smiling reply was “You don’t need to speak English in Tootingistan”

On a personal level a muslim child about 6 years-old walked up to my late wife and punched her in the stomach. When some tenants of mine in a muslim area were attacked in their home despite witnesses the cop crapped himself and insisted it could not have been muslims

I can fill pages with this stuff either from obscure press reports or first hand experience.

Under a government whose policy is to destroy our society by unrestricted immigration every state enforcement agency is paralysed for fear of being “racist” or “islamophobic” And your people know it.

Actually we should pull out of Afghanistan. Like almost every muslim country its such a crap hole even sane Afghans do not want to live there. Assuming we do pull out and your people who have come to our countries continue to be, to quote a Sri Lankan acquaintance, “The most arrogant and aggressive people on earth". When can we be patriotic and start killing you?

Pulsar182

Excellent!