Travesty of justice: Navy SEALs face assault charges for capturing most-wanted jihad terrorist

I wonder who's trying to punish them? It's probably more PC garbage such as that which led to tolerating Maj Hasan. What a farce! Very hard to believe...

This is absolutely shameful.

i support the SEALs. this is truly shameful, an utter disgrace ... required to play NICE with a terrorist murderer.

which side is the administration supporting?

The same sort of PC crap exists in my country too. I don't know why this affliction of dhimmitude in so many countries. Here, the police and intelligence agencies have been told by the dhimmi govt to tread very carefully when investigating or tracking potential or real terrorists who are muslim. This has tied the hands of law enforcement and intel agencies.

Terrorists ought to be treated for what they are: animals.

Let's just ask Obama to stop this farce. Then we will see who's side he is on. As Biden said. "You aren't going to like the answer."

The decision-makers are completely out of touch with what is necessary.

Between this event and the savagery at Fort Hood, most people -- even the good-hearted people who vote Democratic for reasons of "social conscience" -- will say, "Hard men doing hard jobs deserve our backing."

He was briefly in Iraqi custody. Who's to say it didn't happen there?

Vomitworthy approach to fighting a cowardly enemy.

Take the f*****g gloves off!

This kind of madness tempts one to just curl up and die and let the Muslims take whatever's left of the West.

They are going to be charged because this guy got a fat lip? If only this were a joke. Unfortunately, it's not. Disgusting!

A fat lip? I thought for sure he ran into his cell door.

Can a Navy Seal really only fatten a lip when he throws a punch?

This is difficult to fathom. I can't fathom it. I'm trying, but I can't.

A society as stupid as ours almost deserves to be destroyed. In 500 years, when they look back on this period of time, they are going to study how our society was fast asleep even as we were being invaded and attacked from the inside.

Hugh, what's unfathomable is the King Klown of Kenya wants to send 35,000 more troops to Afghanistan to operate under his insane rules of 'arrest' 'evidence gather' and release when two Muslim eyewitnesses are not produced as in Iraq. The Administration has pulled this same crapola on the Army with the three soldiers who took out the trash. I didn't think his administration would his way up to the Seals so quickly. I hope the Seals don't take this lying down.

Ridiculous.

Muslim POTUS in the White House.

What do you expect?

Hasan Malik was also trying very hard to get returning soldiers, (whom he was supposed to counsel) indicted and convicted for war crimes.

Who says the same is not at play here?

Maybe this is ridiculous, maybe not. Depends what happened. One of the reasons the West is so great is that we impose relatively high standards on those we authorize to exert force. Many of the best soldiers want high standards where any unambiguously gratuitous use of violence is not tolerated.

Questions:
1. Was it a gratuitous punch, thrown in anger, when the Seals were not in any danger, nor trying to extract time-sensitive information to save lives? The Seals should be given every benefit of the doubt, so they can do their jobs without fear of prosecution. But at the same time, high standards are a good thing with the military, and we want our soldiers to be violent only when necessary and to the extent necessary. Mistakes in the sincere effort to use only necessary violence should not be punished. But if violence is intentionally used gratuitously, that should be punished. Of course the lightness or severity of punishment would depend on circumstances: was the soldier recently under great pressure or strain of combat? Has he been reprimanded for unnecessary violence previously? Etc.

Remember Shakespeare's Henry V, probably the greatest depiction ever created of the heroic warrior. And remember this scene, one of many magnificent scenes in the Branagh production of Henry V. In this scene, Shakespeare portrays the way a noble leader disciplines his army:

HANGING OF BARDOLPH

Gratuitous violence is Muhammad. Our way should be necessary violence only.

Wonder what former US Navy Seal,Wrestler,talk show host,and Governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura would have to say about this.

No doubt had they just dropped a bunker buster on this monster nothing would be said, but they did it the old fashion way, the so-called humanitarian way,they brought him in alive and for that they are getting prosecuted.

No doubt Attorney General Holdren under the directions of Obama will put this guy on trial in NYC and let him spew propaganda on how he allegedly got punched in the mouth by viscous Navy Seals who probably took twenty times the beating in their seal training alone.

I can see the political cartoon.

A bunch of Seals in full combat gear trying to walk across a bunch of egg shells with the enemy behind a rock with an empty egg crate, laughing at the scene. Oh! one of them is about to punch the other in the lip.

What part of Al Qaeda in the Pentagon is bringing this charge? Or is this coming form the Al Qaeda executive office?

Lesson for the military: take no prisoners. Just shoot them and be done with it.

Obama should be tried for treason and be dealt with, just as the Rosenberg's were back in the 1950's. He's a traitor!

I listen to Michael Savage nightly. I know Savage has had R. Spencer on his program. Every week or so, Savage reported where Bush did this kind of disgusting thing to our military men fighting in Iraq. Conservatives like
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, David Horowitz, etc., gave Bush a pass. Now it is this Muslim-born president in the White House who is not defending our military men and women. I say, "a pox on my fellow conservatives" for giving Bush a pass for the very same thing!

I agree with wildjew above.

Jaw dropping.

Time to escape into music or exercise; the alternative is to seethe.

Cornelius says,

Time to escape into music...

Been picking up my bouzouki and mandolin for some time now. Rage and seething have made me better, to be sure.

WTF?!?!?!

It is very interesting that we have to abide to democratic law and preserve these a..holes rights when they don't even bother about others rights. Why just not make them disappear? They don't have any rights and should be considered outlaws and killed on the spot!

punched by his captors -- and he had the bloody lip to prove it.
Funny thing about fat lips you can get one running into a wall the only thing a fat lip proves is that this scumbag hit his face somewhere heck he could have banged his face any were and be using it for propaganda

If the military keeps this crap up, the draft will be revived because no one will volunteer...

Information as to what 'caused' this 'assault', is missing...
Are we to believe that these SEAls attacked Abed for no reason at all? That's possible, but not probable...Whatever the cause, it will most likely come out in the court martial...Good luck guys...

Well, we know which side Obama is on.

It's not ours.

Red Hussein is poison.

Actually. he was technically more physuically damaged than KSM and his extensive water-boarding sessions. What is the punishment for giving a fat-lip to a high-profile, wanted terrorist by the elite military anyway?

The story is so absurd, it must be true. I second others comments that this is an intentional ploy to eliminate the US volunteer army.

You can't fight a "useless war" without troops, and I use that term "war" regarding Iraq and Afghanistan very, very loosely. Traditionally, war implied a directive to obliterate an enemy. We are doing neither in both theatres at the moment in my estimation. As a matter of fact, I still don't think the enemy...Islam...has been properly defined to date.

Marcus Luttrell talked about this in his book Lone Survivor, how the PC machine of the Left in this country, is ready to go after our soldiers in order to protect the enemy.

He was a Navy SEAL who was sheltered by Afghan villagers surrounded by Taliban. I recommend his book, I couldn't put it down.

I can't blame just BO here, now that the Left is in power this is expected.

The Navy was going to place a black mark on the SEALs records, something the SEALs refused and instead requested a court marshal something done publicly, to clear their good names. These men should win in court.

traeh and Wellington,

You are neglecting to factor in one important wrinkle -- a good thing taken to such irrational excess it is no longer good anymore. You are defending the good thing while in this particular instance ignoring its irrational mutation.

traeh and Wellington,

You are neglecting to factor in one important wrinkle -- a good thing taken to such irrational excess it is no longer good anymore. You are defending the good thing while in this particular instance ignoring its irrational mutation.

Dear beloved SEALs and members of Armed Forces,

Here is the solution:

1. Ask your superiors how you are supposed to control violent situations if BOTH lethal and non-lethal force are not allowed.

Put the burden on them to answer this. Let them go on record and answer the above.
Jew Lover

It costs an enormous sum to train SEALS and other elite military personnel and they are an invaluable asset to our military. Their skills are amazing. I don't know if they punched the savage in the mouth or not and I don't really care; they should have killed him. Dead barbarians can't talk.

What irony! Here we have a vicious, malevolent, blood-thirsty demon and three young, well-trained, extremely competent soldiers that the military invested hundreds of thousands of dollars training for special missions. Now they're prepared to squander all that money, training, and talent to prove what to whom? I don't condone gratuitous violence in most cases but soldiers are trained to kill our enemies and this piece of human filth should have been shot on sight. That would have been far more humane and merciful than what he did.

Our voluntary armed services will soon be a thing of the past because nobody is going to risk court martial and prison for trying to fight politically correct wars that cannot be won. The Orwellian madness intensifies every day.

It costs an enormous sum to train SEALS and other elite military personnel and they are an invaluable asset to our military. Their skills are amazing. I don't know if they punched the savage in the mouth or not and I don't really care; they should have killed him. Dead barbarians can't talk.

What irony! Here we have a vicious, malevolent, blood-thirsty demon and three young, well-trained, extremely competent soldiers that the military invested hundreds of thousands of dollars training for special missions. Now they're prepared to squander all that money, training, and talent to prove what to whom? I don't condone gratuitous violence in most cases but soldiers are trained to kill our enemies and this piece of human filth should have been shot on sight. That would have been far more humane and merciful than what he did.

Our voluntary armed services will soon be a thing of the past because nobody is going to risk court martial and prison for trying to fight politically correct wars that cannot be won. The Orwellian madness intensifies every day.

Wellington, perhaps my main beef should be with traeh.

You wrote: "sadly, many never get this about how civilization must proceed, regrettable though it is at times, versus the way the forces of anti-civilization do."

This is rather opaque; I'm not sure if you are thus allowing for rough treatment of grotesquely brutal scumbags we happen to capture in this deadly war. The problem with setting up bureaucratic rules about unethical treatment is that there are concrete, hot situations on the ground where it is not so easy to apply those rules without endangering your own life and the lives of your fellow soldiers. McCain a few years ago made a good case about the film of the American soldier who shot a Muslim in the head who was on the ground but moving -- on the grounds that in that situation where we have already had experience of such Muslims having a bomb on them, it is only prudent to neutralize the stirring body. This is the "abstract rule" that should apply in all these circumstances where we are dealing with an enemy so uniquely fanatical they manage even to outdo the deadly fanaticism of the Kamikaze pilots and Japanese soldiers in the Pacific who rampaged like veritable demons.

Bush was beholden to the Saudis--he could be tough on Saddam but never on Islam.

The present Kenyan ass-clown holding the office that Bush held,is beholden to Islam, because he was brought up a Moslem and never renounced that ideology. Never mind that he declared himself to be a Christian.

He is a traitor to the United States, but with a Democrat Congress and Senate, nothing will happen to him because of THAT.

I would hate to be the U.S. Marine who has to salute that creature or the one that has to stand at attention when the bastard is at a state dinner or wherever.

A while back, SEALs sniped 3 or 4 mo pirates. These pirates did not kill anyone, they were probably about to. No court martial. Remaining mo in US now for a civilian trial.

Other SEALs give a guy a fat lip who killed four US civilians (assuming former-military) and they are going to get court martialed?

I'm assuming had the SEALs merely grabbed the guy by the arm and bruised his arm, they'd be court martialed as well? WTF?

Ask your superiors how you are supposed to control violent situations if BOTH lethal and non-lethal force are not allowed.

Ahmed Hashim Abed says: My captors hit me.
Lee Harvey Oswald said: A police man hit me.

My only question is like Lee Harvey Oswald did Ahmed Hashim Abed take a swing at one of them? Did he try to raise his gun at one of them and take a shot? Did he do anything to provoke them? If not, why should I still care? I don't think I should. After all, noone gave a crap when they roughed up Lee Harvey Oswald. One can not fight a war like this. If only the Inglourious Basterds were real.

I have sometimes had occasion to quote from an Australian author, Ion L Idriess, from his book 'The Desert Column', which is closely based on the daily diaries he kept during the campaign in Gallipoli and then with the Light Horse, under Chauvel, from Egypt to Jaffa (which is where Idriess got the wound that put him permanently out of the War, and thus, ended his coverage of the Middle East campaign).

Idriess is a gentle, wry, history-haunted poetic sort of fellow who never misses a good ghost story. He doesn't love war qua war. He would never have lent himself to atrocities.

Nevertheless, he is grimly realistic about what happens when one must go into battle with fixed bayonets, in hand-to-hand combat with an allahu-akbaring fanatical foe.

Reading his book, when I was a naive young woman of some 18 or 20 years of age, was a gut-wrenching lesson in the realities of war as experienced first-hand by the ordinary soldier: for Idriess describes *everything*, graphically...the diary seems to have functioned as a sanity-saver. By writing things down, he could 'write them out', get them out of his system.

Here is just one paragraph: a vignette of the Gallipoli battlefield.

"I'm in a hospital ship again, but let me see if I can remember things and write them just as they happened.

"With the last rays of the sun, I was staring through the periscope [rigged up to see above the trench - dda] for any sign of the living among the bodies. There are little khaki heaps of bodies, then twos and threes here and there lying among the Turks. Some are only rotting khaki without shape or form. The boots last the longest. Within a few yards of my periscope lay a tale telling how ferociously both sides died.

"The Australian's bayonet is sticking, rusty and black, six inches through the Turk's back. One hand is gripping the Turk's throat, while even now you can see the Turk's teeth fastened through what was the boy's wrist. The Turk's bayonet is jammed through the boy's stomach, and one hand is clenched, claw-like, across the Australian's face. I wonder will they fight if there is an after world." [from Chapter 9 of 'The Desert Column'].

Make no mistake: the tackling of any jihad gangster/s in Iraq or Afghanistan could end just like this scene which Idriess saw with his own eyes on the battlefield of Gallipoli.

I am amazed, indeed, that the outcome of the SEALs raid involved so little damage to anyone - including the prisoner; they must have acted with great swiftness and cleverness, to extract their target from wherever he was, and to overpower him.

I certainly hope they read him his "miranda rights" as well otherwise he'll get off scot-free!

Eric Holder has really fu**ed thigns up for the marines trying to do their job over there.
I suggest we get a petition going to fight for the rights of these Navy Seals.
They don't deserve a court marshall. They deserve a medal for bravery in the face of death.

Oswald was a "patsy".............this muslim is a true killer - a black eye for Obama!

Disgraceful! Pathetically disgusting! I just don't have enough words to say how far beyond stupid it is to for the Navy Seals, brave men, to be facing criminal charges. They should be rewarded to the highest degree for capturing this scum-bag.

edit

I meant: "sewer"

The brave lions of jihad:

OBL and Mullah Friend right after 9/11: Hail to our brave lions of jihad! The Kufr are getting every bit of divine justice they deserve, and it gives us great joy to have administered it!
OBL and Friend right after the diasy cutters start falling: Waaaaaaaaaaaaasa! The JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ did it!

That's what Muhammad al-Fatlip is like.

brave and muslim jihadist do not go together, since they cannot fight like men, but attack by ambush and most of their victims are unarmed civilians.
but going back to the issue, with this trial it will weed/expose out the pc in the military and reveal to the US people how far to the left Obama manchild who goes around the world apologizing has taken or tried to take the country.
the real American will see for themselves what rat fink they have in the WH.

Just as mohammed rode upon barack's back up to heaven so will sharia law ride upon barack's back into a court near you soon.

I agree with proxywar re his response to DogWithoutSlippers re the Kennedy assassination.

This subject is not unrelated to the overall theme of Jihad Watch, insofar as America's general inability to grasp the threat of Muslims is directly related to the growth of PC MC over the past 50-odd years into a dominantly mainstream worldview -- and part of that is an irrational and morbid self-criticism of one's own American and Western culture, and an irrational and morbid disturst of one's own government.

According to a FOX poll in 2004, 66% of Americans believed the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy. That is an alarming sign of pathology in the general public. In 1981, according to the same FOX story, a poll showed the figures at a whopping 75%.

My suspicion that probably a minority of these diseased Americans are right-wingers who have become Gnostically alienated from the structures of society, and that Leftish-oriented Americans tend to make up the majority of the conspiracy-theory believers is borne out by the FOX poll.

"...the most noticeable gap [was] a partisan one. Democrats are more likely than Republicans to think President Kennedy’s assassination was part of a larger conspiracy (73 percent to 58 percent), and also more likely to think there was a cover-up (81 percent of Democrats and 69 percent of Republicans)."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102511,00.html

My take on this three weeks ago:

http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2009/11/heres-a-videotelling-us-how-the-new-rules-of-engagement-notice-how-at-the-end-the-news-reader-counsels-us-thatits-best-th.html

We fought WWII with every fiber of our being. We called the Japanese "Japs" and we called the Nazis "Krauts". We hated those people for what they were doing to innocent people. We expressed that emotion in every way and fought to the death. We barely won after we dropped our atom bomb before they did.

How in God's name are we supposed to win this war while treating our own soldiers with contempt and not allowing them the benefit of the doubt. Our country's leaders are so arrogant and have such a detached superior attitude toward being able to win this war or any other war with little or no effort. They actually believe that mistreating our own soldiers is A OK and they give every benefit of the doubt to the enemy. This is plain crazy.

We are indeed vulnerable to several types of crippling enemy attacks. Any of which could reduce us to begging for survival. Our political leaders must be on OUR side if we are to win this war.

Hearing this about our Navy Seals is pathetic.

Accusing the captors of abuse and torture, bringing lawsuits against them when possible, is continuing the jihad while a captive, it's in the manual...Getting the SEALS arrested and charged should give "Objective Amber" a feeling of a jihad operation well done...

All hail Ubamuh The Magnificent.

Grovel in His Mighty Shadow Of Righteousness.

"Gather your deeds and your possessions,
Whatever certainty you've known,
Forget your heroes,
You don't really need those last few lessons.
Stand in the open;
The next voice you hear will be your own."

"Well alright, they knew how they could hurt you,
And you let them cut you to the bone.
But God forbid,
you allow them to rid you of your virtue!
Forget their laughter;
The next voice you hear will be your own."
- Jackson Browne

NVUH

The West is done, stick a fork in us.

Message to SEALs...dead men's lips don't bleed nor do they hire America hating attorneys

I am in complete agreement with Hesperado and proxywar about the JFK assassination. There was no conspiracy. Oswald acted alone and the evidence for this is overwhelming. Every conspiracy theory is shot full of holes that greatly eclipse gaps in information (which exist in most every murder) of the official Warren Commission Report (President Gerald Ford, a Congressman at the time when the Report was issued, was the last surviving member of the Commission, which was appointed by President Johnson, and expressed contempt and chagrin many times over respecting all the nutty conspiracy theories about the assassination).

Hesperado's point about how the fact that so many Americans to this day still believe there was a conspiracy and how this reflects on the capacity, or actually lack thereof, of the body politic to keep their built-in-crap detector they were born with finely tuned is a good one. If one believes that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, the single most investigated murder of all time, then what won't one believe, like Islam is really a religion of peace and tolerance and, oh yes, Bush was behind 9/11?

I have regularly over the years as a college instrutor in history used the JFK assassination as Exhibit One in how the masses can believe nonsense. That so many do accept this or that conspiracy theory about the assassination (and the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King) puts my Jeffersonian belief in the people to the test again and again. The truth is elusive often times but it can almost always be found out if one perseveres enough. It's so much easier to accept conspiracy theories. They are almost never true and evidence of intellectual and emotional sloth. Again, we can see that fighting Islamic supremacist designs means a two-fold fight. One, against the Islamic terrorist bastards themselves and the other against the ignorance of those whom such bastards mean to kill or make subservient to them. I remain confident that truth and freedom will prevail in the end but it's not going to be easy. It rarely is.

The person/s bringing the charges to bear should be court martialled themselves.

The person/s bringing the charges to bear should be court martialled themselves.

Wellington,

I don't mean to pick at your fine post, but I feel one angle was left unmentioned, perhaps the most important angle, re: the glib swallowing of conspiracy theories among too many Americans:

"I have regularly over the years as a college instrutor in history used the JFK assassination as Exhibit One in how the masses can believe nonsense. That so many do accept this or that conspiracy theory about the assassination (and the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King) puts my Jeffersonian belief in the people to the test again and again. The truth is elusive often times but it can almost always be found out if one perseveres enough. It's so much easier to accept conspiracy theories. They are almost never true and evidence of intellectual and emotional sloth."

The JFK conspiracy theory is not merely evidence of intellectual and emotional sloth, but also of a profound alienation, distrust and even paranoia on the part of Americans about their own American government, American politicians, and American "fat cat" businessmen -- any number of whom altogether were supposedly part of some back-room cigar-smoking cabal to whack Kennedy (and then probably Robert Kennedy, with Sirhan Sirhan another "patsy"; and then Martin Luther King, Jr., and Malcolm X, and so forth and so on). The only difference between right-wing conspiracy theorists and leftist ones -- aside from the numerical disparity (more of the latter than the former probably) -- is who they think the enemy is: a mirror image of each other's enemy, but both being Big Government and "Globalist" Big Business, with the good victims being either ordinary conservative probably Christian folks, or bohemian proletariats-&-artist/anarchists, respectively. Both also tend to share distasteful anti-Semitic tendencies, sometimes more or less full-blown. At the end of the analysis, one can perhaps salvage the apparently slight margin of more anti-Islam sentiments among the right-wing kooks (once the anti-Semites and anti-Catholics have been winnowed away).

I'm not saying all 66% of Americans from the FOX poll are this diseased: it's likely that the disease has many gradations of virulence, and often, as we see with PC MC, there is a kind of blandly banal acceptance of the premises and conclusions without much ideological fervor -- leading nevertheless to a similarly obstructive situation where most Americans still can't see the problem of Islam and still recoil from seeing it when someone tries to call their attention to it.

Hesperado, et al., Regarding conspiracy theories: I seem to recall that the vast majority of those who believe the U.S. government was somehow involved in the 9/11 disaster are on the left.

Hesperado, you say I am taking a good thing too far with my earlier post (the one in which I included a link to Branagh's Henry V). Maybe. But let me ask you this: Suppose what happened here is that some of the Seals reported something they saw other Seals do, something of which the reporting group of Seals disapproved. Suppose what happened was that when the Seals were completely out of danger, when the situation was completely under control, when there was no need to extract information quickly, one of the Seals completely gratuitously punched the bound and tied prisoner in the face. Shouldn't that be disciplined in some way? I'm not saying that there should be discipline if the Seal punched the enemy in the middle of apprehending him, or in a combat environment. Of course there are many circumstances in which a punch would be necessary and advised. I am only saying that an unambiguously gratuitous punch of a bound prisoner should be disciplined in some way.

But here, admittedly, what is happening is not mere discipline. Apparently there is to be a prosecution. And that does seem too much for a mere punch. Prosecution of that seems close to insane, in fact, given the circumstances (high stress, recent combat, etc.).

But while I'd agree with you about the insanity of prosecuting in this case, I'd disagree if you are against any discipline even should it turn out this was a completely gratuitous punch of a bound prisoner in a secure environment where there was no need to extract information to save lives.

The New Horstwessellied

With Fannies high, Obama’s marching minions
Come prancing down America’s main drag!
It’s time to pack up all your un Pee-cee opinions,
Whether in speech, on airwaves or in mag!
It’s time to pack up all your un-Pee-cee Opinions,
Whether in speech, on airwaves or in mag!

The media, subservient and ga-ga
Cares not that Geithner cheats the IRS.
OHB’s tale has now become a sacred saga.
“Messiah’s come!” They loudly doth profess.
OHB’s tale has now become a sacred saga.
“Messiah’s come!” They loudly doth profess.

The deficit grows bigger by the hour.
Repubs and Blue Dogs haven’t got a chance.
Bigs spenders now have all levers of power
Our grandkids now will lose their shirts and pants.
Bigs spenders now have all levers of power
Our grandkids now will lose their shirts and pants.

Now we have “understanding” of Osama,
To China now we’ve gotten deep in hock.
Welcome to the new age of Barry H. Obama!
Political fiasco and a crock!
Welcome to the new age of Barry H. Obama!
Political fiasco and a crock!

The New Horstwessellied

With Fannies high, Obama’s marching minions
Come prancing down America’s main drag!
It’s time to pack up all your un Pee-cee opinions,
Whether in speech, on airwaves or in mag!
It’s time to pack up all your un-Pee-cee Opinions,
Whether in speech, on airwaves or in mag!

The media, subservient and ga-ga
Cares not that Geithner cheats the IRS.
OHB’s tale has now become a sacred saga.
“Messiah’s come!” They loudly doth profess.
OHB’s tale has now become a sacred saga.
“Messiah’s come!” They loudly doth profess.

The deficit grows bigger by the hour.
Repubs and Blue Dogs haven’t got a chance.
Bigs spenders now have all levers of power
Our grandkids now will lose their shirts and pants.
Bigs spenders now have all levers of power
Our grandkids now will lose their shirts and pants.

Now we have “understanding” of Osama,
To China now we’ve gotten deep in hock.
Welcome to the new age of Barry H. Obama!
Political fiasco and a crock!
Welcome to the new age of Barry H. Obama!
Political fiasco and a crock!

The Navy Seals who nab a human horror
Are sued for giving him a big fat lip.
Obama's administration is the restorer
Of all things Left, Islamicist and hip!
Obama's administration is the restorer
Of all things Left, Islamicist and hip!

I am only saying that an unambiguously gratuitous punch of a bound prisoner should be disciplined in some way.
posted by Traeh

We don't know all the details of this case by any means but if these SEALS wanted to punish this beast, couldn't they have simply shot him between the eyes instead of capturing him? I wish they had.

I was listening to Limbaugh today when a guy called in about this case. He said he was with Navy Intelligence and he sounded credible but you never know for sure. He said this entire fiasco was political payback for the Somali pirate event of earlier this year, when Navy SEAL snipers killed two Somali muslim thugs to rescue the captain of the Maersk Alabama. According to the caller, the hotshots in Washington did not give the commander of the operation permission to shoot the muslim pirates. The officer in charge used his own discretion in giving the order to shoot them because the small life boat was drifting close to shore and the window of opportunity was about to close. This enraged the Obama people and now they are getting even. Apparently they were willing to allow the captain to become another hostage and never intended to kill any of the pirates. Once it was done, what could they do other than make Obama look like a hero for saving the captain?

Sounds believable to me.

Re: the main topic and traeh's last response to me: Let's get down to brass tacks:

Suppose what happened was that when the Seals were completely out of danger, when the situation was completely under control, when there was no need to extract information quickly, one of the Seals completely gratuitously punched the bound and tied prisoner in the face. Shouldn't that be disciplined in some way?

My answer is No, this sort of thing should not be disciplined -- it should in fact be swept under the rug (i.e., tacitly allowed) by superior chain of command. That would be the mark of a rational, enlightened, ethical -- and above all, healthy civilization; both on the part of the society that has in place such a predisposition among its military, and on the part of the soldier giving such monsters a well-deserved sock in the jaw (indeed a rather mild expression).